gwyllgi Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 I saw the vilja mod and thought it was neat, however her voice reminds me of a elderly swedish lady, could someone do a sexy revoicing?
Veta Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 Really ? those guys and gal have put a great effort and work on vilja for both oblivion and skyrim so don't say stuff like that , here voice fits her appearance perfectly .
cornbreadtm Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 What? Emma's voice is already sexy! I'll be right back. I'm going to get you a flame shield, cause I'm going Charizard all over your ass!
Deep Red Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 I hate to jump aboard the bandwagon, but I think vilja's voice is very sexy. Sometimes I just stand there for the sake of hearing her talk. Her voice is soothing, almost therapeutic actually lol
Guest Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 Sexy or not,re-doing ALL this voiceover is a great..no..HUGE deal of work!Someone even with the slightest interest would think twice before atempting...let alone that her voice is already fucking sexy and lorefriendly
Funkcikle Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 :/ME (blasts gwyllgi to cinders) "BURN BLASPHEMER!"
Setekh Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I hate to grab on to the already overloaded bandwagon but Vilja is just fine as is.
AlerictheNord Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't usually ridicule or mock someone's personal requests...especially on a site like this...but are you fucking kidding me?!?! Vilja's voice is damn cute, and I absolutely love her slight accent -- which really, really fits the character. On top of that, are you aware that she is one of the most dedicate, consistent, and talented modders the TES series has? And you are mocking her? She has devoted countless hours, and herculean efforts to creating the Vilja mods. What the hell man? Seriously.
cretin Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Well, just to defend the OP, let me just say that... eh... er... ugh... I can't do it. I tried. Just to put things into perspective, consider the herculean effort that Sultericdrums & co. have put into Viconia. Two (three?) voice actors, years of work, and all kinds of struggles trying to get the remaining 90% of her lines voiced. VO is NOT easy. And Emma has done an unbelievable job. Props also to the work that the Cerwiden & Atvir teams have done, and those too are just a fraction of Vilja's epic number of lines. But hey, that's cool man. Whatever floats your boat; but falsetto into your own microphone is probably your only option. Now if only I can find someone who sounds like Mjoll and has no morals.
Jexsam Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 The only thing wrong with Vilja's voice is the mediocre audio quality. That and her accent, though very well done and consistent, is mostly sexy in that "I bet your accent sounds even sexier with a dick in your throat" kind of way.
cornbreadtm Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Well, that took a... Oh you already got flamed... Oh well... Charizard Bitch!
EmeraldGladiator Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Ah, calm down y'all; it's just an opinion. I personally don't care for Vilja's voice, but I definitely understand that voiceovers are very, very difficult to do, especially with such an intricate and excellent mod as Vilja, and it must be agreed that a great deal of work went into the mod. And despite not being a fan of her voice, I still think she has quite a unique voice and accent, so even if it's not sexy (IMO), at least I feel it separates her from the hackneyed vanilla followers. So, sorry, I doubt anyone will ever make a sexy voice for Vilja unless they have all the time and energy (and interest) in the world. Don't flamethrower me, lol.
Guest Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 Ah, calm down y'all; it's just an opinion. I personally don't care for Vilja's voice, but I definitely understand that voiceovers are very, very difficult to do, especially with such an intricate and excellent mod as Vilja, and it must be agreed that a great deal of work went into the mod. And despite not being a fan of her voice, I still think she has quite a unique voice and accent, so even if it's not sexy (IMO), at least I feel it separates her from the hackneyed vanilla followers. So, sorry, I doubt anyone will ever make a sexy voice for Vilja unless they have all the time and energy (and interest) in the world. Don't flamethrower me, lol. It doesn't only separate her, it makes her one of the few followers I'd actually wanna use because as good as a follower may look if she/he uses the completely retarded standart follower system and the follower voice that has maybe 10 lines of dialog they can gather dust in whatever town I was supposed to pick them up.
gwyllgi Posted March 20, 2013 Author Posted March 20, 2013 what do i even say to this somewhat large response? I don't like vilja's voice IMO it's the only thing wrong with her, I didn't make this thread to know how lotion rubbingly in love with it anyone else is, if you want to voice the opposite opinion go make your own thread.
sniperdoc Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't discount the effort. It is a massive undertaking and it is an amazing mod. 4,000 lines of dialog, the way Vilja interacts with her environment... the whole kaboodle... it's extremely well done. But, I actually agree with you Gwy... After about 30 minutes of the mod I was trying my best to find a way to shut her up. The 2+ minute timer to get her to stop talking every 30 seconds didn't seem to work and I got so frustrated with her that I just left her at Honeybreeze... I find that a few things, like the grammatical errors in some of the dialog, really detract a bit from the immersion and she just talks sooo much, it really starts to get on my nerves. The voice-overs where the volume is really loud, like her about-to-get-into-battle commentary, that has such a poor quality, high volume, and bad grammar, that it got ear drum piercingly annoying. It really was the worst part and got so bad that it was the sole reason I told her to go home... I miss Vilja's occasional off the wall comment about the region she's in, or the conversations she'd start up... but I just couldn't bring myself to continue listening to the that war-cry of hers... So, for me, it's not her voice per se, just the quality on some of the audio clips, the grammar and incessant babbling about something.
fiewiel Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 The latest version of Vilja 1.4 should fix the bug that Vilja ignores your set dialogue limits. There is also an option to shut up Vilja permanently, didnt used it so far, so no clue if it works. And yeah the "leave her alone!" and the other one is a bit nerv wracking. Overall only minor disadvantages I happily endure.
AlerictheNord Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't discount the effort. It is a massive undertaking and it is an amazing mod. 4,000 lines of dialog, the way Vilja interacts with her environment... the whole kaboodle... it's extremely well done. But, I actually agree with you Gwy... After about 30 minutes of the mod I was trying my best to find a way to shut her up. The 2+ minute timer to get her to stop talking every 30 seconds didn't seem to work and I got so frustrated with her that I just left her at Honeybreeze... I find that a few things, like the grammatical errors in some of the dialog, really detract a bit from the immersion and she just talks sooo much, it really starts to get on my nerves. The voice-overs where the volume is really loud, like her about-to-get-into-battle commentary, that has such a poor quality, high volume, and bad grammar, that it got ear drum piercingly annoying. It really was the worst part and got so bad that it was the sole reason I told her to go home... I miss Vilja's occasional off the wall comment about the region she's in, or the conversations she'd start up... but I just couldn't bring myself to continue listening to the that war-cry of hers... So, for me, it's not her voice per se, just the quality on some of the audio clips, the grammar and incessant babbling about something. I can forgive the audio quality simply because very few mods that offer new sound/sfx/dialogue are studio quality. These are mods, not pro-developed game content. About her 'babbling,' I really don't understand your point. If you want a silent, "follow you brainlessly" 'companion,' there are literally hundreds of those available for download. Vilja, like Atvar and Ceriwiden, is different precisely because she actually has some dialogue. Even Mjoll, bethesda's most(only?) fleshed out companion, doesn't even come close. Serana is an interesting vanilla companion, but once you finish the Dawnguard quest-line, she has very little left to say or do, and becomes just another brainless follower. This was Skyrim's biggest plot/immersion weakness -- the lack of developed and interesting characters and companions. Everyone is either a walking cliche, or just plain shallow. Vilja is different precisely because she is the only companion who actually has a character, or who appears to at least care who the player is what he/she is doing.
Soulsemmer Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I used Vilja for a while. Was a bit buggy back then, but the real issue I had was her voice... I didn't like it, either.
Veta Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't get this kind of behavior ,every time someone doesn't like a mod taking to the forums and complaining about it , This discourages many modders , putting hours upon hours on a mod so that someone can say he doesn't like it , clearly there are people including many of us at LL who like it therefore the mod is being made , if you don't like it either make a better mod or keep your feelings to yourself
sniperdoc Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I can forgive the audio quality simply because very few mods that offer new sound/sfx/dialogue are studio quality. These are mods, not pro-developed game content. About her 'babbling,' I really don't understand your point. If you want a silent, "follow you brainlessly" 'companion,' there are literally hundreds of those available for download. Vilja, like Atvar and Ceriwiden, is different precisely because she actually has some dialogue. Even Mjoll, bethesda's most(only?) fleshed out companion, doesn't even come close. Serana is an interesting vanilla companion, but once you finish the Dawnguard quest-line, she has very little left to say or do, and becomes just another brainless follower. This was Skyrim's biggest plot/immersion weakness -- the lack of developed and interesting characters and companions. Everyone is either a walking cliche, or just plain shallow. Vilja is different precisely because she is the only companion who actually has a character, or who appears to at least care who the player is what he/she is doing. There comes a point in Vilja's lifetime in the game, where if you don't do what she wants you to do, she non-stop-incessantly says something to the effect of "we really should do XYZ as soon as possible." And she says it over... and over... and over... and over... and over.... and over... and over... you get the point right? THAT is annoying. Also her war-cry, which is consistently the same one, which is the loud, poor quality one and has the grammar problems. That also, after some time, gets annoying to listen to. I didn't disagree that she is more interactive, I stated as much, I also didn't say I needed a silent companion... I love Vilja's interactivity, but she IS limited in some of her responses at some point in her life in Skyrim. I agree with all your points... I do. But to me, as I said in my above comments, Vilja bothers me. She may not bother you, but to me, I get tired of being reminded every 6 minutes or so, that we should do her quest line. When you play as much as I do, i.e. uninterrupted time vested in Skyrim, it gets annoying. The timer options for her "comments" should definitely be increased to something like 15 - 20 minutes vs the 2.34 minutes or whatever it was... I agree telling her to STFU completely makes her lifeless like everyone else... but a walking chatterbox is not my idea of fun. EDIT: I just saw this as well... The latest version of Vilja 1.4 should fix the bug that Vilja ignores your set dialogue limits. There is also an option to shut up Vilja permanently, didnt used it so far, so no clue if it works. And yeah the "leave her alone!" and the other one is a bit nerv wracking. Overall only minor disadvantages I happily endure. Yeah, I saw, but I wasn't sure if they increased the time limit... Even 2.whatever minutes was too short. As far as I remember the "shut up" dialog was broken to the point where you couldn't turn her back on at all... don't know if it was fixed yet. As I stated, it's a fantastic mod, but I just think increasing intervals between comments would be better. Like 1 minute, 2m, 5, 10, 20 or "shut up" would work and maybe fixing some of the extra loud/distorted dialog... it shouldn't take too much to fix. (I do find the literal translations to be funny. Some of what she says probably sounds right in Swedish but doesn't translate well into English if translated directly and really has to do with knowing English/American vernacular.)
luna2012 Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I don't get this kind of behavior ,every time someone doesn't like a mod taking to the forums and complaining about it , This discourages many modders , putting hours upon hours on a mod so that someone can say he doesn't like it , clearly there are people including many of us at LL who like it therefore the mod is being made , if you don't like it either make a better mod or keep your feelings to yourself This just isn't correct. No artist is perfect and things need to be critiqued and criticized by outside parties to get better. You don't have to do everything people ask but you need to listen to get out of your own head and get other creative input. If a modder is interested in creating a quality mod, they will be smart enough to know that criticism is meant to be constructive, and when said respectfully should be listened to. If a modder isn't interested in quality, well, that's behavior I don't understand. If you're releasing a mod for recognition or something you kinda deserve to get torn apart. I haven't used this mod, but two things are obvious: One: a ton of work and throught and care has been put into this mod with the intent of creating a focused and complete character. Bravo. Two: the voice acting and recording quality is quite amateur, and could benefit from more knowledge of acting and recording. It's possible the time spent recording dialogue could have been better spent seeking out a different voice actor for the part. These are quite simple statements of constructive criticism, and in no way should 'discourage' the modder. The lack of quality in the voice in no way detracts from the other achievements of this mod. The very fact that people are nitpicking the voice is a testament to the quality of the mod anyway. It's so good and complete that it deserves a higher level of criticism. I'm sure the author of the mod is aware of it's shortcomings and welcomes the (polite) reminders of what can be improved. Maybe they will see it as a good opportunity to overhaul it which makes everyone happy, or they will apply that knowledge to their next creation and therefore make that one better. These are good things.
sniperdoc Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 I haven't used this mod, but two things are obvious: One: a ton of work and throught and care has been put into this mod with the intent of creating a focused and complete character. Bravo. Two: the voice acting and recording quality is quite amateur, and could benefit from more knowledge of acting and recording. It's possible the time spent recording dialogue could have been better spent seeking out a different voice actor for the part. These are quite simple statements of constructive criticism, and in no way should 'discourage' the modder. The lack of quality in the voice in no way detracts from the other achievements of this mod. The very fact that people are nitpicking the voice is a testament to the quality of the mod anyway. It's so good and complete that it deserves a higher level of criticism. I'm sure the author of the mod is aware of it's shortcomings and welcomes the (polite) reminders of what can be improved. Maybe they will see it as a good opportunity to overhaul it which makes everyone happy, or they will apply that knowledge to their next creation and therefore make that one better. These are good things. I think you addressed the statements very adequately, just to catch you up a bit, since you don't use the mod... Emma (the person that did the voice recordings) didn't have a recording studio and hadn't really done voice acting before. Throughout the process people did advise her how to take a low end microphone, use a stocking stretched out in front of the mic to reduce pop and breath sounds, etc... So some of the dialog is without the "fixes" and others sound just fine. The translations for the script weren't proof read, and honestly didn't really need to be or weren't required to be. For god's sake... the scripting for her behaviors, her character model creation, the matching of the voice recording to mouth movements, interaction with the environment, the questline... jesus... what more could anyone ask for. It was already a phenomenal achievement as far as mods was concerned. So, the fact that someone English or American didn't get a chance to read all her dialog and send in script fixes... ain't that big o' deal... xD However, the amount of dialog that needs the audio quality fixes is like 3 or 4 lines (iirc) and shouldn't really be that big an issue to fix and I think the grammatically incorrect ones, are a part of those... so as you said... it was just constructive criticism. One person (maybe several) said he didn't like her voice... it's an opinion, plain and simple. They shouldn't get flak over disagreeing with the community or even wanting to post their opinion/request/idea??? We all come on these boards because we appreciate what the modding community does, sometimes we like the content, sometimes we don't. That's what the forums are for. To voice our opinions. We ALL have e-peens, some more than others. xD Some have a strong opinion to the point that they are over-bearing. Now, certain modders enjoy the praise/comments/criticism they get because it makes them better content creators, and SOME use this created content as portfolios to move on to bigger and better ventures to maybe working in the game industry. So, it is not entirely just modders creating content and being gracious enough to share it with us. Some use it to learn and drive their creativity. Anyways, ranted enough... thanks for your input Luna.
gwyllgi Posted March 21, 2013 Author Posted March 21, 2013 Okay so now we have people who think she's okay, a few who are dissatisfied with the coding in general, and me who is still at the part where she sounds like a old eastern swedland lady.
Wänkä Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Viljas voice acting is terrible. I uninstalled it as soon as I heard that annoying screaking voice. But from all the other aspects mod is great.
Lusty Housecarl Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 I guess it all comes down to personal preference. Myself i dont like her voice all that much. Probably due to being Swe/Nor myself so i get to hear more than enough of that accent every day. That said the companion herself and the work that has gone into her is VERY impressive no doubt. And for that i must give the VAs and the rest of the creators a big thumbs up.
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