Spicycat Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 I think that the last time I brought it up everyone went "but why would taking the armor from an adult give you kiddy sized armor?" when I said I would attempt to integrate [insert author's name for the CoS vanillla armor remesh, here]'s armors into an esp which would allow you to take armor from adults and wear it and have it work. I have got it working, but I haven't got it working... Ychildrenofthesky.esp contains all necessary information for the children of the sky race to appear properly in game. My mod somehow took the names so that on its own it had references to the race, but without the other esp the race wouldn't show up in game. nNot only that, but for some reason having both mods active means the the reference for my mod are duplicates and are therefore completely useless. The only work around i know would be to completely integrate it into the Ychildrenofthesky.esp, but without Jitek's permission I'm not allowed to alter the esp, and there isn't much point right now because R3 is coming out when Jitek uploads it. If I was able to integrate this into the CotS, would I have the support of other users to do it once R3 was out, since the last time Jitek tried to do as I told them how I knew how to make it work, they couldn't get it to work because they couldn't find the race... I have the race and the know how. The Creation Kit will seem to let you make a mod of an esp file, but it's a lie. You can only make mods that work from esm files, and there are a limit to how many esm files a mod can be dependent on. Editing the CotS esp file directly would work. I don't think that turning it into a master file would work, as that might be too many master files in the dependency list, but you could always try.
MidbossVyers Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Hy everyone, how can i do to kill child NPC in CotS ? Thank you i use this mod: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17849/ my load order has that mod coming -after- the esps for xvision and Ychildren so its like xvisionchildren.esp Ychildren of the Sky.esp killable lootable children for Hearthfire.esp Thanks but i have another problem now. I can kill/loot/steal childrens but the female child face texture have change and become very ugly. Do you have a solution? You can kill them or make them look good. I think you might try Wrye Bash to create a bashed patch that merges the changes. You must realize that the way to make children killable is to turn of the "Child" switch on their characters, Once you do that you take the responsibility for any "adult" activities those children may partake in because the game and mods no longer recognize them as children. The strange thing is that only the girl texture has change, the boy look perfect and he his killable. Look at the screenshot below. So, it is possible to kill them and have a good look. Those are the same kids I have. You screenshot looks a lot like mine. Gotta be a way to change this. I am guessing we have the same kill children mod installed. I don't want to kill all the little annoyances. Just Braith and a few other rude ones. Hell, I even like Dorthe! She is polite, and so is Mila from Whiterun. The Jarl's children in Whiterun... are a different story. Anyway, I don't want to get rid of the mod. I also have installed and uninstalled the Sky Children mod several times. Nothing. Now I am back to the Dark Brotherhood and Babette looks the same as the Dorthe model! I am very unhappy. It was mentioned we can change the models ourselves but I really don't want to edit them. I hate to be lazy but does anyone know how we can fix this besides taking the kill children mod out and reloading the mod? I truly want the kids of Skyrim to not look the same.... especially awesome assassin vampire girls. Any suggestions? - M In terms of killable children, I prefer the game to add some child enemies, like Forsworn and bandits. After all, Forsworn are basically a tribal community, and all communities have kids. Similarly, necromancers and warlocks would have apprentices. BeretNoir: I know the mod comes with texture swaps, just in case you wanted different styled textures. But I tried those and it didn't do anything to help. MidbossVyers: There is actually a mod on Skyrim nexus. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26502//? this mod adds children to forsworn camps. Not sure how it will work with CotS. Was going to try to use it myself.... just haven gotten back to Forsworn camp diving yet. - M. There's a far better mod than that right here on LL -- http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10398-bandit-and-forsworn-npcs-for-yii-techniques-labors-children-of-the-sky/ In terms of that, what is the basic skill point distribution for this race? It would be nice for the Forsworn kids to actually have Forsworn (Breton) stats.
kisscool1234 Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Okay guys I've had this problem for a while now. No matter what I do, the 1st person camera height is always default. I even downloaded the new fix in post #569 and yet the camera stays the same no matter what I do. is there any way to force it through the console or something? Try disabling the RaceMenuPlugin.esp, if you haven't. I know having it enabled causes problems of this sort. So much kudos for you, this tip seems to fix my 1st person camera height problem I spent lotta hours trying to fix without success !!
mukuro Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 WaxenFigure, on 05 Jun 2013 - 13:10, said:mukuro, on 05 Jun 2013 - 12:55, said: MidbossVyers, on 05 Jun 2013 - 12:48, said:mukuro, on 05 Jun 2013 - 12:17, said:beretnoir, on 05 Jun 2013 - 09:27, said:WaxenFigure, on 04 Jun 2013 - 19:11, said:beretnoir, on 04 Jun 2013 - 13:07, said:Dinosaurus, on 03 Jun 2013 - 23:06, said:beretnoir, on 03 Jun 2013 - 15:35, said:Hy everyone, how can i do to kill child NPC in CotS ? Thank youi use this mod:http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17849/my load order has that mod coming -after- the esps for xvision and Ychildren so its likexvisionchildren.espYchildren of the Sky.espkillable lootable children for Hearthfire.espThanks but i have another problem now. I can kill/loot/steal childrens but the female child face texture have change and become very ugly. Do you have a solution?You can kill them or make them look good. I think you might try Wrye Bash to create a bashed patch that merges the changes.You must realize that the way to make children killable is to turn of the "Child" switch on their characters, Once you do that you take the responsibility for any "adult" activities those children may partake in because the game and mods no longer recognize them as children.The strange thing is that only the girl texture has change, the boy look perfect and he his killable. Look at the screenshot below. So, it is possible to kill them and have a good look.Those are the same kids I have. You screenshot looks a lot like mine. Gotta be a way to change this.I am guessing we have the same kill children mod installed. I don't want to kill all the little annoyances. Just Braith and a few other rude ones. Hell, I even like Dorthe! She is polite, and so is Mila from Whiterun. The Jarl's children in Whiterun... are a different story.Anyway, I don't want to get rid of the mod. I also have installed and uninstalled the Sky Children mod several times. Nothing. Now I am back to the Dark Brotherhood and Babette looks the same as the Dorthe model! I am very unhappy.It was mentioned we can change the models ourselves but I really don't want to edit them. I hate to be lazy but does anyone know how we can fix this besides taking the kill children mod out and reloading the mod? I truly want the kids of Skyrim to not look the same.... especially awesome assassin vampire girls.Any suggestions?- MIn terms of killable children, I prefer the game to add some child enemies, like Forsworn and bandits. After all, Forsworn are basically a tribal community, and all communities have kids. Similarly, necromancers and warlocks would have apprentices. BeretNoir: I know the mod comes with texture swaps, just in case you wanted different styled textures. But I tried those and it didn't do anything to help.MidbossVyers: There is actually a mod on Skyrim nexus. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26502//? this mod adds children to forsworn camps. Not sure how it will work with CotS. Was going to try to use it myself.... just haven gotten back to Forsworn camp diving yet.- M. There's a far better mod than that right here on LL -- http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10398-bandit-and-forsworn-npcs-for-yii-techniques-labors-children-of-the-sky/ Perfect! ^ thanks for that. I will use this instead. I use to have a mod that added kids as raiders and other factions for Fallout new vegas. It increased the difficulty dramatically tho, because they would come in like.... hordes and have extra armor and the like. It was fun tho. So its not that I am impatient, but I will probably just uninstall this kill kids mod, and install COTS one more time. I have reinstalled it... it must have been 30 times by now due to issues with skins, and I don't mind redoing it one more time. But cots won't allow killable children anymore? I know I use to have a mod that did... don't remember which one. If anyone has any recommendations for a mod other then the one that I and Beretnoir is using and works with this mod... let us know OK? - M,
WaxenFigure Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 Hy everyone, how can i do to kill child NPC in CotS ? Thank you i use this mod: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17849/ my load order has that mod coming -after- the esps for xvision and Ychildren so its like xvisionchildren.esp Ychildren of the Sky.esp killable lootable children for Hearthfire.esp Thanks but i have another problem now. I can kill/loot/steal childrens but the female child face texture have change and become very ugly. Do you have a solution? You can kill them or make them look good. I think you might try Wrye Bash to create a bashed patch that merges the changes. You must realize that the way to make children killable is to turn of the "Child" switch on their characters, Once you do that you take the responsibility for any "adult" activities those children may partake in because the game and mods no longer recognize them as children. The strange thing is that only the girl texture has change, the boy look perfect and he his killable. Look at the screenshot below. So, it is possible to kill them and have a good look. Those are the same kids I have. You screenshot looks a lot like mine. Gotta be a way to change this. I am guessing we have the same kill children mod installed. I don't want to kill all the little annoyances. Just Braith and a few other rude ones. Hell, I even like Dorthe! She is polite, and so is Mila from Whiterun. The Jarl's children in Whiterun... are a different story. Anyway, I don't want to get rid of the mod. I also have installed and uninstalled the Sky Children mod several times. Nothing. Now I am back to the Dark Brotherhood and Babette looks the same as the Dorthe model! I am very unhappy. It was mentioned we can change the models ourselves but I really don't want to edit them. I hate to be lazy but does anyone know how we can fix this besides taking the kill children mod out and reloading the mod? I truly want the kids of Skyrim to not look the same.... especially awesome assassin vampire girls. Any suggestions? - M In terms of killable children, I prefer the game to add some child enemies, like Forsworn and bandits. After all, Forsworn are basically a tribal community, and all communities have kids. Similarly, necromancers and warlocks would have apprentices. BeretNoir: I know the mod comes with texture swaps, just in case you wanted different styled textures. But I tried those and it didn't do anything to help. MidbossVyers: There is actually a mod on Skyrim nexus. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26502//? this mod adds children to forsworn camps. Not sure how it will work with CotS. Was going to try to use it myself.... just haven gotten back to Forsworn camp diving yet. - M. There's a far better mod than that right here on LL -- http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10398-bandit-and-forsworn-npcs-for-yii-techniques-labors-children-of-the-sky/ In terms of that, what is the basic skill point distribution for this race? It would be nice for the Forsworn kids to actually have Forsworn (Breton) stats. I believe they are clones of the regular Foresworn or Bandits but they are just the X117 race. You would have to ask the author to be sure though.
WaxenFigure Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 WaxenFigure, on 05 Jun 2013 - 13:10, said: mukuro, on 05 Jun 2013 - 12:55, said: MidbossVyers, on 05 Jun 2013 - 12:48, said: mukuro, on 05 Jun 2013 - 12:17, said: beretnoir, on 05 Jun 2013 - 09:27, said: WaxenFigure, on 04 Jun 2013 - 19:11, said: beretnoir, on 04 Jun 2013 - 13:07, said: Dinosaurus, on 03 Jun 2013 - 23:06, said: beretnoir, on 03 Jun 2013 - 15:35, said: Hy everyone, how can i do to kill child NPC in CotS ? Thank you i use this mod: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/17849/ my load order has that mod coming -after- the esps for xvision and Ychildren so its like xvisionchildren.esp Ychildren of the Sky.esp killable lootable children for Hearthfire.esp Thanks but i have another problem now. I can kill/loot/steal childrens but the female child face texture have change and become very ugly. Do you have a solution? You can kill them or make them look good. I think you might try Wrye Bash to create a bashed patch that merges the changes. You must realize that the way to make children killable is to turn of the "Child" switch on their characters, Once you do that you take the responsibility for any "adult" activities those children may partake in because the game and mods no longer recognize them as children. The strange thing is that only the girl texture has change, the boy look perfect and he his killable. Look at the screenshot below. So, it is possible to kill them and have a good look. Those are the same kids I have. You screenshot looks a lot like mine. Gotta be a way to change this. I am guessing we have the same kill children mod installed. I don't want to kill all the little annoyances. Just Braith and a few other rude ones. Hell, I even like Dorthe! She is polite, and so is Mila from Whiterun. The Jarl's children in Whiterun... are a different story. Anyway, I don't want to get rid of the mod. I also have installed and uninstalled the Sky Children mod several times. Nothing. Now I am back to the Dark Brotherhood and Babette looks the same as the Dorthe model! I am very unhappy. It was mentioned we can change the models ourselves but I really don't want to edit them. I hate to be lazy but does anyone know how we can fix this besides taking the kill children mod out and reloading the mod? I truly want the kids of Skyrim to not look the same.... especially awesome assassin vampire girls. Any suggestions? - M In terms of killable children, I prefer the game to add some child enemies, like Forsworn and bandits. After all, Forsworn are basically a tribal community, and all communities have kids. Similarly, necromancers and warlocks would have apprentices. BeretNoir: I know the mod comes with texture swaps, just in case you wanted different styled textures. But I tried those and it didn't do anything to help. MidbossVyers: There is actually a mod on Skyrim nexus. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26502//? this mod adds children to forsworn camps. Not sure how it will work with CotS. Was going to try to use it myself.... just haven gotten back to Forsworn camp diving yet. - M. There's a far better mod than that right here on LL -- http://www.loverslab.com/topic/10398-bandit-and-forsworn-npcs-for-yii-techniques-labors-children-of-the-sky/ Perfect! ^ thanks for that. I will use this instead. I use to have a mod that added kids as raiders and other factions for Fallout new vegas. It increased the difficulty dramatically tho, because they would come in like.... hordes and have extra armor and the like. It was fun tho. So its not that I am impatient, but I will probably just uninstall this kill kids mod, and install COTS one more time. I have reinstalled it... it must have been 30 times by now due to issues with skins, and I don't mind redoing it one more time. But cots won't allow killable children anymore? I know I use to have a mod that did... don't remember which one. If anyone has any recommendations for a mod other then the one that I and Beretnoir is using and works with this mod... let us know OK? - M, If you really have to have killable children you can open the COTS mod in the CK and create your own add-on mod that keeps all the other changes but turns off the "child" flag. It's easy to sort the list of NPCs by that flag and then it's easy to open them one at a time and reset it. Then save as a new mod and you're done.
umbratotalus Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 I think that the last time I brought it up everyone went "but why would taking the armor from an adult give you kiddy sized armor?" when I said I would attempt to integrate [insert author's name for the CoS vanillla armor remesh, here]'s armors into an esp which would allow you to take armor from adults and wear it and have it work. I have got it working, but I haven't got it working... Ychildrenofthesky.esp contains all necessary information for the children of the sky race to appear properly in game. My mod somehow took the names so that on its own it had references to the race, but without the other esp the race wouldn't show up in game. nNot only that, but for some reason having both mods active means the the reference for my mod are duplicates and are therefore completely useless. The only work around i know would be to completely integrate it into the Ychildrenofthesky.esp, but without Jitek's permission I'm not allowed to alter the esp, and there isn't much point right now because R3 is coming out when Jitek uploads it. If I was able to integrate this into the CotS, would I have the support of other users to do it once R3 was out, since the last time Jitek tried to do as I told them how I knew how to make it work, they couldn't get it to work because they couldn't find the race... I have the race and the know how. The Creation Kit will seem to let you make a mod of an esp file, but it's a lie. You can only make mods that work from esm files, and there are a limit to how many esm files a mod can be dependent on. Editing the CotS esp file directly would work. I don't think that turning it into a master file would work, as that might be too many master files in the dependency list, but you could always try. I understand dependency is only on esm files, it is a matter of the fact that it is dependent on the ychildrenofthesky.esp, only because that particular esp holds the true versions of the children. My mod contains references, or shadows/echos, which do not contain the necessary information to have it work independent of Ychildrenofthesky.esp. However because they are shadows and do not share the same information (technically speaking) they change the name to oraezeX117Duplicate in my mod, thus the references are for the wrong "race".
rebeccamt Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Hello~! Love the Mod, but I need help! I have a Glitch! Almost all NPC with the race COTS have darker tinted faces then their bodies. I have tried resurrection, recycleactor, but no luck! I need help! Also, does anyone know how to have Bandits be COTS? I'd like to fight some of my own kind.
WaxenFigure Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Hello~! Love the Mod, but I need help! I have a Glitch! Almost all NPC with the race COTS have darker tinted faces then their bodies. I have tried resurrection, recycleactor, but no luck! I need help! Also, does anyone know how to have Bandits be COTS? I'd like to fight some of my own kind. You really should read a few posts back because the answer to one of your questions was the last topic being discussed here.
beretnoir Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Another solution, someone know a nude child texture who look pretty and who doesn't interact with killable child mod?
iceblend Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Err, my character is ridiculously small? Is there any fix to that? It's even smaller than the children. Edit: nvm, I fixed it by disabling RaceMenuPlugin.esp. All good.
Belchen Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Streaming Children of the Sky on Twitch.tv/belchen. This mod, The follower mod and lots of the clothes of the X-117 series. The stream will be in the adult channels of Twitch, so you will need to log-in to view it, live. If you don't have an account, sign-up is easy. I hope to see some of you there and know you'll appreciate the work that was involved in the modding of CotS. I can see the chat on my second monitor, so drop a hello in. Respectfully submitted, Belchen
beretnoir Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Still no idea for kill children in CotS? Will it be updated maybe?
MidbossVyers Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Well, the Forsworn and Bandit children would have to be killable in order to make their respective dungeons possible, correct?
Belchen Posted June 8, 2013 Posted June 8, 2013 Is this an update preview or something? Kinda like that. I am using the latest update for the NPC Cots. I go out of my way to point out CotS npc's. My character right now isn't CotS but my followers are. I really enjoy running the main CotS and have several characters that are, but since i'm testing many adult mods, right now, it is best not to employ my main as CotS. Twitch has guys doing the same thing over and over with Skyrim. I"m doing different mods to break the monotony. Theres not many viewers, so I stream casually. It is not a big event. It is something to give back to the community and I share the mods with people that like them, giving credit and pointing them in the right direction if they wish to download it. The style is with followers like the Breezehome and Riverwood skykids carrying my junk around, yes, with appropriate slave chains, while lolydia and I bash the brains out of monsters. I find it a lot funner to play with the CotS branch of followers. Once I lost Carley the Cat. Ran all the way back to the BB suite and grabbed a resurrection tomb. Went back and rezzed Carley before continuing the quest. I believe they bring more immersion to the game then standard follower types.
MidbossVyers Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Streaming Children of the Sky on Twitch.tv/belchen. This mod, The follower mod and lots of the clothes of the X-117 series. The stream will be in the adult channels of Twitch, so you will need to log-in to view it, live. If you don't have an account, sign-up is easy. I hope to see some of you there and know you'll appreciate the work that was involved in the modding of CotS. I can see the chat on my second monitor, so drop a hello in. Respectfully submitted, Belchen That multiple follower thing is a separate mod, correct? Also, have they fixed the shrinking character glitch yet?
Nikorasu666 Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Can someone help me? What do I need to edit for this mod(http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25321/?) to work with Children of the Sky? (I have both GECK and CK installed)
MidbossVyers Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 What do you mean "work"? Is there some problem with vampirism with this race?
Belchen Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Streaming Children of the Sky on Twitch.tv/belchen. This mod, The follower mod and lots of the clothes of the X-117 series. The stream will be in the adult channels of Twitch, so you will need to log-in to view it, live. If you don't have an account, sign-up is easy. I hope to see some of you there and know you'll appreciate the work that was involved in the modding of CotS. I can see the chat on my second monitor, so drop a hello in. Respectfully submitted, Belchen That multiple follower thing is a separate mod, correct? Also, have they fixed the shrinking character glitch yet? Yes, the NPC replacer for CotS was started by Glouf and can be found here. The Armors i'm going to be using come from lostdaywalker and is here. I can't use all the armors i'd like, as Twitch has a Nexus mentality when it comes to, "over the line". Shrinking Character Glitch. I think you might be talking about the AshenFollowers mod started by kyods. Or The Ashen race itself. Actually, Carley the Cat is from that one. I do believe they fixed the glitch with a new skeleton but it requires Hearthfire. which i don't have, yet. I"m pretty sure it is the mod , as my CotS main lost a foot or two in height, lol. I enjoyed it. I may be wrong. Lolydia and the monli followers lost some height too. I believe this all comes from the different mods using the oriental race folder. The skeleton replaces and changes all but since The setscale of the races are different, so one skeleton change will react differently for all mods using the same folder. So to answer the question, CotS (Follower Replacement). Glouf's file structure allows it to remain a separate mod, so it doesn't interact with all other mods from the same venue. @beretnoir Textures will not change how the mod works. Killable children has to be placed before CotS, in the load order, or their skin will look melted. Mad Companion mod will allow them to follow you. Last note. I do not personally know nor have modified any of the CotS races. My experience comes from the use of the mods themselves. I try to keep the stream fun but try to not step over the lines of mainstream sanity, to much. It is a game though, so momentary lapses of insanity occur. I believe Skyrim is a good tool to explore the darker side of human nature, without harming anyone. I'll be streaming most the night, if twitch don't give me problems.
Nikorasu666 Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 What do you mean "work"? Is there some problem with vampirism with this race? No, the mod I linked to makes the Vampire Lord transformation be my character with Vampire Queen armor+ Wings (the normal VL wings), but when I tried using it, my character (when transformed) had a Nord woman body (vanilla) with a CotS face (really weird looking). I want to know if I can edit the mod in GECK or CK to make it use CotS's body, because I think the mod searchs for the body meshes/textures being used by all races. So, is there a way to make it use the CotS body, without changing all races bodies? [sorry for any mistakes, I'm not from an english-speaking country]
Grizzly28 Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 I'm having a problem with this mod, i installed it tired of see the crap vanilla kids, not much interested on making a PC, the problem is that when i install this mod, all the race on creation menu are normal size but with the CoS textures/faces and then the CoS race are like half a vanilla kid ( a table its way taller than char ), as i said idc about the PC race, i jsut dont wanna hace the kid textures/face on my adults chars. Any idea what its causing this ( i use ECE , and no use Racemenu ) i tried with race menu and no ece aswell, same result ... any ideas guys ? Thanks. P.D. I have killable children, tried untick it on data files, no changes, i also use NMM.
Pamfolette Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Hi, I'm just a bit confused about what this mod does. I would like some info before installing it. Does the mod replace children with new models or rather it modifies all NPCs with children models? The prisoner meshes and textures included in the package actually replace the vanilla ones (which means all prisoners, adults included, will equip a child mesh?) P.S. I have no children mod installed at present (neither I use Hearthfires). A big "thank you" to anyone wishing to help.
bleeargh Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 I was running around in the rift when these three kids ran up trying to sell me some dwemer items they found in a local ruin. They had the bodies and clothes of "children of the sky", but still had the vanilla faces. It was really disturbing.......it reminded me of a video by the industrial band Aphex Twin called "Come to daddy" You can watch it here. Be warned. You might not sleep well after watching it. Anywhoo, I was giving the heads up in case Jiitek may have missed these three kids when making the mod? All the rest of CotS is working correctly minus these three little demon offspring.
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