CTD near Whiterun

[Dragoncoc696969]

Recently i'm having CTD near whiterun, specially around the stable & farms (not inside whiterun). And for some reason, i don't see the Kijit caravan at the entrance of whiterun. Can anyone tell me why this is happening. See my list of mods.

 

Load Order.txt

[demonryupriest]

I've had similar issues as well, for the crashes it turns out in most cases it was a simple load order issue that LOOT sometimes misses, all you need to do is manually move a mod or two up or down (MO highlights what's conflicting in red, usually the ones that overwrite and are overwritten are the culprits, then it will tell you which ones have to be in a certain order) and that solves most crashes, the others are just plain old random stability issues.

 

As for the caravans...random luck, there have been times when caravan doesn't show up on your first visit, even in vanilla (you think Khajiit will only stay in one place? That would seriously hamper Khajiit's business!) ;)

[Dragoncoc696969]

15 hours ago, demonryupriest said:

I've had similar issues as well, for the crashes it turns out in most cases it was a simple load order issue that LOOT sometimes misses, all you need to do is manually move a mod or two up or down (MO highlights what's conflicting in red, usually the ones that overwrite and are overwritten are the culprits, then it will tell you which ones have to be in a certain order) and that solves most crashes, the others are just plain old random stability issues.

 

As for the caravans...random luck, there have been times when caravan doesn't show up on your first visit, even in vanilla (you think Khajiit will only stay in one place? That would seriously hamper Khajiit's business!)

I use vortx. Vortex tells me when a conflict happens & to sort it i have to set rules to which mod will load first. My load order is clean as far as i know. And the CTD happens around whiterun farms and nowhere else in skyrim till now. Can you see my load and tell me if you find anything unusual. It would be a great help. Two pair of eyes are better than one.

[Vylvie]

Did you recently install or remove any mods? Anything from structures to texture changes?

 

Also, if its a save that has been around for a while, have you tried cleaning the save with Fallrim Tool's ReSaver?

[Dragoncoc696969]

38 minutes ago, jasondawn said:

Did you recently install or remove any mods? Anything from structures to texture changes?

 

Also, if its a save that has been around for a while, have you tried cleaning the save with Fallrim Tool's ReSaver?

I did blue place retexture & Palace overhaul. Though i did disabled them & result is the same. I don't find any mod suspicious, thats why i gave my mod list.

[Psalam]

The most common cause for this has been a problem with creatures (often with creature schlongs). In your position I would try disabling mods that affect animals (particularly horses) and see if your issue resolves.

[demonryupriest]

16 hours ago, Dragoncoc696969 said:

I use vortx. Vortex tells me when a conflict happens & to sort it i have to set rules to which mod will load first. My load order is clean as far as i know. And the CTD happens around whiterun farms and nowhere else in skyrim till now. Can you see my load and tell me if you find anything unusual. It would be a great help. Two pair of eyes are better than one.

Ah, so you're using vortex. That's a good choice of organizer, it's from the same guy who made MO1, who last I heard is part of Nexus now, though as new as it is may be part of the problem. I'd say check for an update as well as try the solution Psalam mentioned, that might clear things up a bit.

 

 

[Vylvie]

1 hour ago, demonryupriest said:

though as new as it is may be part of the problem.

Hasn't Vortex been around since 2018?

 

I've been using Vortex for over a year now and I have yet to hear Vortex installations causing CTD.

[Dragoncoc696969]

23 hours ago, Psalam said:

The most common cause for this has been a problem with creatures (often with creature schlongs). In your position I would try disabling mods that affect animals (particularly horses) and see if your issue resolves.

 

9 hours ago, demonryupriest said:

Ah, so you're using vortex. That's a good choice of organizer, it's from the same guy who made MO1, who last I heard is part of Nexus now, though as new as it is may be part of the problem. I'd say check for an update as well as try the solution Psalam mentioned, that might clear things up a bit.

 

 

Im suing only creature mod that is Aroused Creatures. I disabled it through MCM menu, but still no use, same as before. Here's my crash log, a the end its loaded SOG4, which i also disabled through MCM a while back. Still ill try totally disabling the mod from vortex.

Papyrus.0.log

[Psalam]

32 minutes ago, Dragoncoc696969 said:

 

Im suing only creature mod that is Aroused Creatures. I disabled it through MCM menu, but still no use, same as before. Here's my crash log, a the end its loaded SOG4, which i also disabled through MCM a while back. Still ill try totally disabling the mod from vortex.

Papyrus.0.log 138.66 kB · 1 download

Sorry that I did not make myself clear. Disable the mod(s) through your mod organizer. Disabling at the level of the McMenu won't eliminate bad meshes/textures. And be certain that you have nothing else that does. Sometimes mods that have one name add functions to something else.

 

Sadly, papyrus logs are NOT crash logs and only infrequently give clues as to the cause of crashes although it gave me a heads-up about what I was just telling you. SkyBirds is an animal mod, for instance.

 

[Dragoncoc696969]

3 hours ago, Psalam said:

Sorry that I did not make myself clear. Disable the mod(s) through your mod organizer. Disabling at the level of the McMenu won't eliminate bad meshes/textures. And be certain that you have nothing else that does. Sometimes mods that have one name add functions to something else.

 

Sadly, papyrus logs are NOT crash logs and only infrequently give clues as to the cause of crashes although it gave me a heads-up about what I was just telling you. SkyBirds is an animal mod, for instance.

 

I did uninstalled all animal modes via vortex just now.... & still get CTD. Its time i move on & avoid whiterun stable are & also a custom home mod near there.

[demonryupriest]

21 hours ago, jasondawn said:

Hasn't Vortex been around since 2018?

 

I've been using Vortex for over a year now and I have yet to hear Vortex installations causing CTD.

Er...perhaps I should have said "relatively" new. Bear in mind, it still took Tannin a few years before he got MO1 to be as robust and stable as it is for the vast majority of users. The thought I had was there was a line of code (or more) that might have been having issues with some rigs (such as Dragoncoc's)...

9 hours ago, Dragoncoc696969 said:

I did uninstalled all animal modes via vortex just now.... & still get CTD. Its time i move on & avoid whiterun stable are & also a custom home mod near there.

The player home mod might be the real culprit in this situation. Check to see if it has any secondary patches either from the creator or other modders or uninstall that if none are available. Unfortunately this is getting to about the most I know in regards to trouble shooting. Hope this helps. (fingers crossed)

[coolfreaky]

18 hours ago, Dragoncoc696969 said:

I did uninstalled all animal modes via vortex just now.... & still get CTD. Its time i move on & avoid whiterun stable are & also a custom home mod near there.

a custom home mod can be a probable issue !!!    just uncheck the esp and go back to the location where you have a ctd  to see what happens .

 

if your ctd still occurs you might need to passe time for checking your mods one by one.

 

good luck.

[Dragoncoc696969]

9 hours ago, demonryupriest said:

Er...perhaps I should have said "relatively" new. Bear in mind, it still took Tannin a few years before he got MO1 to be as robust and stable as it is for the vast majority of users. The thought I had was there was a line of code (or more) that might have been having issues with some rigs (such as Dragoncoc's)...

The player home mod might be the real culprit in this situation. Check to see if it has any secondary patches either from the creator or other modders or uninstall that if none are available. Unfortunately this is getting to about the most I know in regards to trouble shooting. Hope this helps. (fingers crossed)

 

20 minutes ago, coolfreaky said:

a custom home mod can be a probable issue !!!    just uncheck the esp and go back to the location where you have a ctd  to see what happens .

 

if your ctd still occurs you might need to passe time for checking your mods one by one.

 

good luck.

I did uninstall that a while back. When i started a current save & went near the stable, this time it crashed quicker. The home mod doesn't have any patches. It says its compatible with everything (Elysium State).

I uninstalled all recently installed mods but no change. I think the problem was with an old mod but i wasn't around whiterun when it was installed. I have 298 plugins :') 

[travelmedic]

I frequently use the Elysium Estate mod and it's never caused a problem for me, using the older or updated versions of it.  

 

An excellent house mod that I'd highly recommend, I don't think that's your problem.

[travelmedic]

You've got Sofia and the Sofia Alternate Spawn mods installed.  Have you already met her and have her recruited?  She normally spawns inside the stable the first time you meet her.

[Dragoncoc696969]

29 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

I frequently use the Elysium Estate mod and it's never caused a problem for me, using the older or updated versions of it.  

 

An excellent house mod that I'd highly recommend, I don't think that's your problem.

I agree.

21 minutes ago, travelmedic said:

You've got Sofia and the Sofia Alternate Spawn mods installed.  Have you already met her and have her recruited?  She normally spawns inside the stable the first time you meet her.

i wasn't able to get close to her, game just crashes. I uninstalled her but still get CTD.

[Dragoncoc696969]

20 hours ago, travelmedic said:

I frequently use the Elysium Estate mod and it's never caused a problem for me, using the older or updated versions of it.  

 

An excellent house mod that I'd highly recommend, I don't think that's your problem.

After alot of experiment, i found the culprit, its Elysium Estate. It conflicts with some other mod, i haven't figured out which mod it is.