Animal Mansion 4??? (Dev Thread)

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

I had the prisoner chains in mind... 

 

There's been odd inflation issues that I've seen mentioned in DBF's SE thread and in the MME thread. One or two mentions of the stomach - the screenshots look more square than round. Mostly, it seems to not work instead of screw up like that though.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, JesusKreist said:

Curious.

You basically said the same thing that I did yet your talk about it gets accepted and mine challenged.

 

I took your tone to mean that people shouldn't convert this mod from SE to LE even when you were saying that it can be done for some mods. You were emphasizing the problems a lot more than how it can be done. I didn't challenge it because what you were saying was technically correct for converting in general, even if it wasn't for this mod.

Tone in online posts can be hard and you might not have intended to come off that way.

 

For this mod, where the scripts are known to be compatible for both Skyrim versions, or HDT, or inflation, or even animations, all that really needs to be done is extract the BSA, and possibly run it through a converter to change mesh and textures to something LE compatible. I'm pretty sure though that I remember these should work without converting though, So i'd say just extra the BSA and drop it into the LE install and see.  To be extra safe (or a mesh causes a CTD) run it through something like CAO to convert from SE to LE.

[Pfiffy]

Ok, to end this up:

 

I think most ppl here on LL will agree with me if I say that noone here has to tell @tasairishow to convert a mod. And if tasa does it it will be working. 

 

After dealing with mods like DD and ZAZ I can say that what @skyrim482 wrote is at least quite naive. I would call it a arrogant, but I don't want to be too offending.

 

And to end up the curiosity of @JesusKreistI can say that If we all shared your point of view about converting or porting mods there wouldn't be over 1300 downloads for SE here on LL.

 

[JesusKreist]

Never said "Don't bother trying" or "It won't work anyways!".

Converting a mod between essentially two separate games (Skyrim and Skyrim SE have a multitude of smaller differences outside and major ones on the inside workings) CAN work but it is NOT GUARANTEED to work.

 

And even if a conversion does technically work it can and often does spawn weird behavior or graphics in the process.

 

For this mod for example it is possible that thaena can (not! will) have graphical head issues like a nord body and the head color of a redguard.

Further it is possible in rather rare instances that for this mod thaena in the converted LE version forgets how to path out of her bedroom. She can go in there no problem ,though.

 

I've seen "simple" clothing mods where after conversion see-through parts were opaque black, caused the body to disappear or caused lighting issues in a tavern/dungeon.

Further I've seen converted mods that technically work but smaller things like random signs at the road have "missing texture pink" or trees at a modded area are half sunk or floating.

Or the mod works close to what it should and after hitting a certain milestone or finishing a certain quest there suddenly is a wall from a modded house missing.

Essentially resurfacing of bugs that were present in a previous version of the original mod that were fixed already.

 

Converting mods is possible but often needs some more work than "simply follow this short instruction!" as it often is not enough.

[Violence6884]

On 7/20/2021 at 2:32 AM, tasairis said:

 

I can confirm, having taken only a quick look(I'd rather wait for the next WIP), that the only major issue seems to be Thaena's head.

[Violence6884]

On 7/19/2021 at 9:13 PM, Algene said:

Aw, wanted to see some completely unnecessary drama.

Some people just want to watch forums burn... ;3

[hitmanx2x]

Im not normally someone that comments or anything, basically just use the site to download, dont even know how to properly quote.

 

Would it be alright for me to add an idea for a story/a sidequest?

In one of the other animal mansions there is a quest where you go the the high kings widow (the new queen i think) and you then "perform" using her own troll. I cant remember if anything else happened past that mini quest but I think it might be nice if we have a quest where we discuss/perform animal sex (maybe a quest where thaena and the PC is requested by the jarl of falkreath to show the crazy stuff going on in his hold to his friends/other jarls/other people of import) and before we start there is a commotion when one of the female guests (could be the high queen/that woman horse vendor we meet earlier) is completely against the idea and doesnt want us to continue and then leaves when she sees we arent stopping. We can then receive a letter/a butler or something comes by who then asks us for our "services" at a specific location at night. The PC goes there with a dog per the request and then finds another letter with gold in telling us to begin. A few days later we can receive another letter asking for more. This can happen a few times and every time we have to take a "bigger" animal with us and then one night we hear a loud moan after we bring a horse (our "biggest" animal). A few days later we have take the dog again but this time there is a woman with a hood. When we arrives she slips off all her clothes except the hood and simply presents herself for the dog(or something similar, modders choice). Pc can try to talk to her (maybe) but she doesnt respond (once again, modders choice). The pc assumes she wants the Red Rocket, she doesnt object.  Because the dog is being extra rough tonight at one point her hood falls off and she doesnt seem to notice/care.

Turns out its the guest who left the party/gathering when the jarl summoned us. After the dog finishes we can talk/find out why she wants to do it now and the answer can be something like: her female friends who stayed couldnt stop talking about how hard/rough the animals were and after some of them tried the animals (at the mansion, new customers perhaps, modders choice) themselves they started pressuring her to try and convinced her to atleast watch a single showing and that if she did, they would stop pestering her about it. Turns out, the dog (could be bailey, modders choice) performed so well with the PC  and the sounds the PC made was so loud/lustful that she couldnt help but watch and afterwards she was horny herself. Despite her best attempts she couldnt get the thought of the animal member out of her head and the next thing she new she had sent another letter/butler asking for more and it was just a down hill spiral from there.

 

There are a lot of things one can do actually, and I know the mod isnt NEAR finished but Maybe you can get a different view and get some story ideas from this, I think this might be a nice quest to add and would flesh out skyrim a bit in terms of npcs actually talking about "recent events" that i think most mods here lose out on apart from simple reputation/fame mods. From what ive played so far you are really amazing at making that linear quest and character dialogues stand out from every other mod ive played so far (admittedly, not that many mods) and it feels like it actually tells a story (like with thaena's first time, LOVED that addition and when i noticed it unlocked the further i went, i wanted to play more. Could maybe do the same thing for the female char in my suggestion as she goes further with animals?)

[Carnotaurus]

Well, I finally got off my lazy butt and modded Skyrim SE enough to see how this mod is working. I didn't go through the regular Helgen intro, so not sure if that had anything to do with it, but when I got to Falkreath there was no mansion where it was normally located in the original mod. Was it moved someplace else?

 

EDIT: Never mind, I figured it out. Seems like it was missing two mod dependencies. Once I installed those everything got resolved. Now time to... um, do some... testing. For science, of course.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Carnotaurus

[marktwin]

Any news on progress?

[unwashed biomass]

How it's going @tasairis?

[yuubae]

@tasairis think I found the problem with the peddler scene: After her first time, you get 2 choices for her next animation (bj or sex), but the dialogue after that always says it was a blowjob (also upstairs with Thaena)

 

Also, while I'm here, I think for the quest after the dogs (the 3rd one I think) Thaena should suggest getting a different animal (maybe a pig?) instead. Going from sheep to horses when there are goats running around town is a bit of a leap...

Of course, you could also let us buy a goat, then get the horse in a new quest, but changing some lines is probably less work :)

 

Either way, I can't wait to see the 0.5 update!

[tasairis]

Back from the dead. Last couple months have been a tiny bit highly stressful due to work changes but things are finally slowing down and my hair is no longer falling out (literally).

 

Last I knew, the next main quest was fully done, I think I got most of my bug fixes taken care of (will have to go through my notes), and while the client stuff was mostly done, there were some parts I wasn't satisfied with (ditto notes).

 

Next week I'm taking a vacation, like the whole week as a real vacation with travel arrangements, so I'll try to spend the rest of this week getting whatever I can done.

 

Sorry about June. I thought I was on track for that, then ? and ? and ?, and now it's almost the end of August and I've made virtually no progress since then. But I have not given up on this mod - or the Compatibility thread, for that matter, which I'm heading to next.

[marktwin]

Nice to see you're still alive, dude

[Guest]

11 hours ago, tasairis said:

Back from the dead. Last couple months have been a tiny bit highly stressful due to work changes but things are finally slowing down and my hair is no longer falling out (literally).

 

Last I knew, the next main quest was fully done, I think I got most of my bug fixes taken care of (will have to go through my notes), and while the client stuff was mostly done, there were some parts I wasn't satisfied with (ditto notes).

 

Next week I'm taking a vacation, like the whole week as a real vacation with travel arrangements, so I'll try to spend the rest of this week getting whatever I can done.

 

Sorry about June. I thought I was on track for that, then ? and ? and ?, and now it's almost the end of August and I've made virtually no progress since then. But I have not given up on this mod - or the Compatibility thread, for that matter, which I'm heading to next.

Sounds like a tough fucking month, it's nice to hear you are still alive, enjoy your vacation!

[RoadsideWaffles]

20 hours ago, tasairis said:

Back from the dead. Last couple months have been a tiny bit highly stressful due to work changes but things are finally slowing down and my hair is no longer falling out (literally).

 

Last I knew, the next main quest was fully done, I think I got most of my bug fixes taken care of (will have to go through my notes), and while the client stuff was mostly done, there were some parts I wasn't satisfied with (ditto notes).

 

Next week I'm taking a vacation, like the whole week as a real vacation with travel arrangements, so I'll try to spend the rest of this week getting whatever I can done.

 

Sorry about June. I thought I was on track for that, then ? and ? and ?, and now it's almost the end of August and I've made virtually no progress since then. But I have not given up on this mod - or the Compatibility thread, for that matter, which I'm heading to next.

Really glad to see that you're back!  Can't wait to see what comes next for the mod and enjoy your well earned vacation!

[N.Gamma]

On 8/23/2021 at 12:27 AM, tasairis said:

Next week I'm taking a vacation, like the whole week as a real vacation with travel arrangements, so I'll try to spend the rest of this week getting whatever I can done.

I hope you were able to enjoy your vacation and also managed to make some progress in the development! Would you please be so kind and would give another new update!

[Carnotaurus]

15 hours ago, N.Gamma said:

I hope you were able to enjoy your vacation and also managed to make some progress in the development! Would you please be so kind and would give another new update!

 

No offense, but... let the guy rest, ok? He will post when he's ready.

[N.Gamma]

4 hours ago, Carnotaurus said:

No offense, but... let the guy rest, ok? He will post when he's ready.

No offense intended... I grant them all the time they need to realize the mod. But if someone tells me that they want to do something in a certain period of time and this time has passed since a week, then I actually expect an update whether now what has become of it or not. I do not demand that they have worked on it, I just want to know if they have managed to work on it. To be kept up to date is nothing unusual.

Edited September 2, 2021 by N.Gamma

[Violence6884]

The project(Or the concept I should say) has been picked up and dropped quite a few times- So many different versions... It's obvious the idea is quite popular as well, meaning picking it up paints a target on you, for those who have been eagerly waiting for someone to do so... And who then lose patience fast(Though I do not think it's entitlement or that it's coming from a bad, overly cynical or critical place).

 

Perhaps it would be best to approach this with modesty? As in, convert, patch, polish and fix what's already there until it's 100% working and then slowly build up on new features? Or if that can't happen or isn't worth it, then write it from scratch without aiming higher than the original(Minus any issues it had)?

 

Especially if RL right now is too busy.

 

It would be a shame if this version died too, more so if it dies due to burn out from feature creep.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Violence6884

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Violence6884 said:

The project(Or the concept I should say) has been picked up and dropped quite a few times- So many different versions... It's obvious the idea is quite popular as well, meaning picking it up paints a target on you, for those who have been eagerly waiting for someone to do so... And who then lose patience fast(Though I do not think it's entitlement or that it's coming from a bad, overly cynical or critical place).

 

Perhaps it would be best to approach this with modesty? As in, convert, patch, polish and fix what's already there until it's 100% working and then slowly build up on new features? Or if that can't happen or isn't worth it, then write it from scratch without aiming higher than the original(Minus any issues it had)?

 

Especially if RL right now is too busy.

 

It would be a shame if this version died too, more so if it dies due to burn out from feature creep.

Whelp if it helped I would totally chip in with donations for a mod like this, we have all these amazing animations from billyy, anub, nibbles and babo but a good quest mod is missing for sure to utilize them. Honestly I just hope  tasairis takes his time and doesn't go full ham on such a large project because I can't see how you wouldn't burn out with this much work involved. 

[skyrim482]

Just relax everyone. Real life is something we all understand and much needed vacations. He is checking in, the mod is just a slow progress which is fine because its a ton of work. I as well, would like to see an update to for the much awaited radiant client quests. That has been one of my favorite things about this mod series. I think we should all let tasairis know what we are excited about and what we have enjoyed so far as the mod progresses to show our support. I think his creative writing has been great and I take the time to go over all of his dialogues.  I agree that to many features will cause a burn and I hope he finds a good balance that's healthy for is real life and modding aspirations alike. I'm sure he is enjoying his vacation ??️

Edited September 4, 2021 by skyrim482

[Ramien]

A: Hopefully things are going well for tasairis. I know how stressful things can get and hope things improve soon.
B: A minor suggestion - not that the PC stays clothed most of the time anyways, but some type of official outfit that advertises the mansion or serves as a uniform when performing (especially once the radiant quests start) would be nice

[Ade4u1]

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On 9/24/2021 at 4:14 AM, Ramien said:

A: Hopefully things are going well for tasairis. I know how stressful things can get and hope things improve soon.
B: A minor suggestion - not that the PC stays clothed most of the time anyways, but some type of official outfit that advertises the mansion or serves as a uniform when performing (especially once the radiant quests start) would be nice

 

Not judging or anything. I'm just curious. What kind of a uniform would say "This way to play red rocket"
I was thinking canadian mountie myself.

[Ramien]

4 hours ago, Ade4u1 said:

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Not judging or anything. I'm just curious. What kind of a uniform would say "This way to play red rocket"
I was thinking canadian mountie myself.

I've been putting my character in the 'wild bunny' outfit from Deserter X, or things like pony boots and mitts, since they at least fit the scene and add some fanservice. Even something like Forsworn armor could work (give that 'wild woman' vibe). A Mountie costume could work, or a lion tamer outfit...

[N.Gamma]

On 9/24/2021 at 12:14 PM, Ramien said:

A minor suggestion - not that the PC stays clothed most of the time anyways, but some type of official outfit that advertises the mansion or serves as a uniform when performing (especially once the radiant quests start) would be nice

I think the idea is really good.

I can not name a specific outfit that would be suitable, but it should remind my opinion of a sexy wech outfit that maybe even animal accessories like cat, fox or bunny ears and tail were added.

Edited September 29, 2021 by N.Gamma