Constant CTD in and around Whiterun, And flickering screen.

[Giakou]

I have two problems:

I get constant CTDs near or inside of Whiterun. I load a game walk like 1 cm and instant CTD. I've been trying for over two hours to get from DragonReach to the Battleborn house to make the quest there.

And my other problem is that sometimes out of nowhere everything starts flickering and my character repeats every action over and over. Like, pulling out  her sword, she does it over ten times, over and over again. And the enemies fall down from the sky.

 

I've run LOOT and Tes5Edit shows no errors.

I'm using Vortex btw.

 

Please help me. It's getting really frustrating not being able to move around in Whiterun. =/

loadorder.txt

[Psalam]

13 minutes ago, Giakou said:

I have two problems:

I get constant CTDs near or inside of Whiterun. I load a game walk like 1 cm and instant CTD. I've been trying for over two hours to get from DragonReach to the Battleborn house to make the quest there.

And my other problem is that sometimes out of nowhere everything starts flickering and my character repeats every action over and over. Like, pulling out  her sword, she does it over ten times, over and over again. And the enemies fall down from the sky.

 

I've run LOOT and Tes5Edit shows no errors.

I'm using Vortex btw.

 

Please help me. It's getting really frustrating not being able to move around in Whiterun. =/

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Your first problem is likely due to having SexLab Nude Creatures. If you have this it means you also have an outdated version of MoreNastyCritters. I suggest that you get rid of both of these old mods and replace them with the current SLAL version of MNC. That will likely take care of your CTD.

 

I have no idea, however, of what is causing your second issue.

[coolfreaky]

just to add to @Psalam  as the second issue seems to be engine ressources and more than 1 issue ; i would update the videocard  , and VC_redist.x86 + VC_redist.x64 ,

 

reduce the game settings from ultra to high ,and fix the fps to 60 , and set the vsinc to 0 .

 

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

How did you get into WR if you have constant ctds?

 

It's new problem for you? Did it start after starting current quest?

 

 

Second issue. I lean towards engine stress. I don't use fancy enb presets,only boost, maybe enb settings? Does is happen indoors and outside?

 

Are either problems present when starting new game?

[donttouchmethere]

8 hours ago, Giakou said:

. Like, pulling out  her sword, she does it over ten times, over and over again. And the enemies fall down from the sky.

What is your FPS near Whiterun?

You can activate your FPS counter with "num *"

Low FPS and Physics don't go well together^^

Just say that because of those falling NPC ?‍♂️

 

Maybe an open cities issue?

How many active scripts are running? => check save, maybe you have a mod that goes mad

 

If you have CTD right after LAL randomly and in short order (about 5-15 min into game and close to any area with lots of NPCs) you might need to get all those stability fixes for LE.

Especially you would need a skse.ini if you have no other memory allocation installed.

 

For the sword getting over an over drawn: did you overwrote FNIS with something? How does your FNIS output look? Multiple animation replacers running?

 

What I would try first:

> check save game for too many active scripts, like over 30-100+

> check the stability fixes (skse.ini, ENboost, crash fixes) and use beth.ini for skyrim/pref.ini

> check FNIS output and remember what overwrote FNIS related files

> update to newest MNC

> check if all open cities related patches are installed or if mods are incompatible

> check mods that change looting behavior or poll inventory regularly

> check XPMSE and animation overhauls for combat

> combat overhaul mods

> if still issues appear: remove mods till game gets stable

[Giakou]

4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

What is your FPS near Whiterun?

You can activate your FPS counter with "num *"

Low FPS and Physics don't go well together^^

Just say that because of those falling NPC ?‍♂️

 

Maybe an open cities issue?

How many active scripts are running? => check save, maybe you have a mod that goes mad

 

If you have CTD right after LAL randomly and in short order (about 5-15 min into game and close to any area with lots of NPCs) you might need to get all those stability fixes for LE.

Especially you would need a skse.ini if you have no other memory allocation installed.

 

For the sword getting over an over drawn: did you overwrote FNIS with something? How does your FNIS output look? Multiple animation replacers running?

 

What I would try first:

> check save game for too many active scripts, like over 30-100+

> check the stability fixes (skse.ini, ENboost, crash fixes) and use beth.ini for skyrim/pref.ini

> check FNIS output and remember what overwrote FNIS related files

> update to newest MNC

> check if all open cities related patches are installed or if mods are incompatible

> check mods that change looting behavior or poll inventory regularly

> check XPMSE and animation overhauls for combat

> combat overhaul mods

> if still issues appear: remove mods till game gets stable

How do I check the active scripts in the save?

I don't use ENboost because I have no idea how to use it, but I'm using bethini.

I always use FNIS before starting my game and it shows no warnings.

I have MNC version 12, is there a newer one?

 

[Giakou]

12 hours ago, Psalam said:

Your first problem is likely due to having SexLab Nude Creatures. If you have this it means you also have an outdated version of MoreNastyCritters. I suggest that you get rid of both of these old mods and replace them with the current SLAL version of MNC. That will likely take care of your CTD.

 

I have no idea, however, of what is causing your second issue.

I have MNC version 12, is there a newer one am I suppose to diable and uninstall Nude Creatures?

[Giakou]

11 hours ago, coolfreaky said:

just to add to @Psalam  as the second issue seems to be engine ressources and more than 1 issue ; i would update the videocard  , and VC_redist.x86 + VC_redist.x64 ,

 

reduce the game settings from ultra to high ,and fix the fps to 60 , and set the vsinc to 0 .

 

I've already tried to change the settings from ultra hight to medium yesterday but that didn't help. What's VC redistx86?

[Giakou]

11 hours ago, Heroine of the Night said:

How did you get into WR if you have constant ctds?

 

It's new problem for you? Did it start after starting current quest?

 

 

Second issue. I lean towards engine stress. I don't use fancy enb presets,only boost, maybe enb settings? Does is happen indoors and outside?

 

Are either problems present when starting new game?

First it always happened around the stables but when I uninstalled Tytanis Farming mod I could walk pass the stables and into Whiterun. But now I'm at lvl 13 and I can't walk near or inside of Whiterun, I get instant CTD. Mostley around the entrance and around the Batlleborn house.

[coolfreaky]

VC_redist.x  is   A redistributable package (or a "redistributable") is a library of components required to run certain Windows applications developed with Microsoft Visual C++.  (copy and past)

 

 i would follow  @donttouchmethere  and download   " save game script cleaner "  and do a backup before doing anything  : 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363?tab=description it will show you the running scripts ( and can clean some orphans ).

[Giakou]

9 minutes ago, coolfreaky said:

VC_redist.x  is   A redistributable package (or a "redistributable") is a library of components required to run certain Windows applications developed with Microsoft Visual C++.  (copy and past)

 

 i would follow  @donttouchmethere  and download   " save game script cleaner "  and do a backup before doing anything  : 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363?tab=description it will show you the running scripts ( and can clean some orphans ).

I have this one Save cleaner V 2.05. Is that the same thing? I've used it on the saves but it doesn't help. =/

[coolfreaky]

with about 250 mods you are good for the abyss of modding ! 

 

you need to uncheck about 50 mods at a time ( groupe of mods with dependencies ) load the game and go to whiterun .

you proceed you enable them and uncheck other 50 until you can go to the town .

than refine and enable within 10 at a time until it ctd than you can verify the mods one by one to find the culprit to understand what have gone wrong.

( note each time on a paper witch one you unchecked ).

 

[shortiron]

You don't need SexlabNudeCreatures. According to this, it's distributed as part of MNC.

17 hours ago, Giakou said:

I can't walk near or inside of Whiterun

Experienced that before, a lot. ?

Install MNC patch for Convenient Horses & Tame the Beast of Skyrim II, follow the recommended load order from MNC page, and move both patched mods after MNC.

Move Sanguine Debauchery before MNC. It messes up MNC's animal schlongs.

 

Hope it helps.

[donttouchmethere]

18 hours ago, Giakou said:

How do I check the active scripts in the save?

I don't use ENboost because I have no idea how to use it, but I'm using bethini.

I always use FNIS before starting my game and it shows no warnings.

I have MNC version 12, is there a newer one?

You can check your active scripts with save cleaner or fallrim tools

More about the basic Skyrim fixes:

 

>" I have MNC version 12, is there a newer one?"

no, v12 is the right one, but why did you install those nude creatures that are only needed for the old MNC version?

 

Shortiron summarized it pretty well.

Check requirements for MNC again on the MNC SLAL page and grab the patches.

 

 

[Giakou]

17 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

You can check your active scripts with save cleaner or fallrim tools

More about the basic Skyrim fixes:

 

>" I have MNC version 12, is there a newer one?"

no, v12 is the right one, but why did you install those nude creatures that are only needed for the old MNC version?

 

Shortiron summarized it pretty well.

Check requirements for MNC again on the MNC SLAL page and grab the patches.

 

 

So it's safe to uninstall nude creatures? Will the creature-animations work without it?

[shortiron]

41 minutes ago, Giakou said:

Will the creature-animations work without it?

Don't worry. Creature animations are exist in MNC, Funnybizness, Billyy, and other animation mods available here in LL.

The most important thing is to read the mods descriptions and follow their instructions.

And the SLNC description said that the newer version is part of MNC. There's gotta be a reason why the author took that step.

So it's either the outdated SLNC or the updated MNC, not both, your pick.

[Giakou]

37 minutes ago, shortiron said:

Don't worry. Creature animations are exist in MNC, Funnybizness, Billyy, and other animation mods available here in LL.

The most important thing is to read the mods descriptions and follow their instructions.

And the SLNC description said that the newer version is part of MNC. There's gotta be a reason why the author took that step.

So it's either the outdated SLNC or the updated MNC, not both, your pick.

I uninstalled nude creatures but that made the beasts penises dissappear... =/

[shortiron]

The animals schlongs are there in MNC. Have you sorted the load order according to MNC page?

MNC must replace XPMSE, both in install order and load order.

And re-run FNIS.

[donttouchmethere]

6 hours ago, Giakou said:

So it's safe to uninstall nude creatures? Will the creature-animations work without it?

The opposite is true.

If you really use MNC v12 SLAL and the old nude creatures you might get CTD or glitched animals.

 

Did you read the MNC SLAL mod description at all? ?‍♂️

 

5 hours ago, Giakou said:

I uninstalled nude creatures but that made the beasts penises dissappear... =/

MNC v12 comes with it's own version of creature framework (CF).

Deinstall the old CF version and reinstall MNC v12 (it includes CF)

Test on a new game.

 

Also creature dicks show up arousal related on creatures outside of SL animations.

Test with a SL animation if the dicks work.

 

Mods to install:

• More Nasty Critters SLAL Version (by @MadMansGun)
  • ⚠️Since Version 12 MNC SLAL includes a modified version of Creature Framework. No need to install CF separately anymore.
    • ⚠️Allow to overwrite:
      • FNIS
      • XPMSE
      • AIO-AP
    • Patches: More Nasty Critter SLAL Patches

Suggested Load Order:
(Skyrim and it's DLCs here)
SexLab.esm
SexlabAroused.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
(Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esm here)
(All other .esm mods here)
SkyUI.esp
UIExtensions.esp (needed for SexLabTools)
FNIS.esp
(All other .esp mods here)
SexLabTools.esp (optional)
MoreNastyCritters.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp (optional)
SexLabMatchMaker.esp (optional)
SLAnimLoader.esp
(Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esp here)

 

 

Don't forget to install:

JContainers

 

 

Did I say already: Test on a new game? ?

[woodsman30]

Boy this is a long way around you do relies you could have just rebuild the game in half the time you spent so far. ......sometimes it is just easier and faster to start anew,

[Giakou]

On 5/10/2020 at 6:54 PM, donttouchmethere said:

The opposite is true.

If you really use MNC v12 SLAL and the old nude creatures you might get CTD or glitched animals.

 

Did you read the MNC SLAL mod description at all? ?‍♂️

 

MNC v12 comes with it's own version of creature framework (CF).

Deinstall the old CF version and reinstall MNC v12 (it includes CF)

Test on a new game.

 

Also creature dicks show up arousal related on creatures outside of SL animations.

Test with a SL animation if the dicks work.

 

Mods to install:

• More Nasty Critters SLAL Version (by @MadMansGun)
  • ⚠️Since Version 12 MNC SLAL includes a modified version of Creature Framework. No need to install CF separately anymore.
    • ⚠️Allow to overwrite:
      • FNIS
      • XPMSE
      • AIO-AP
    • Patches: More Nasty Critter SLAL Patches

Suggested Load Order:
(Skyrim and it's DLCs here)
SexLab.esm
SexlabAroused.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
(Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esm here)
(All other .esm mods here)
SkyUI.esp
UIExtensions.esp (needed for SexLabTools)
FNIS.esp
(All other .esp mods here)
SexLabTools.esp (optional)
MoreNastyCritters.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp (optional)
SexLabMatchMaker.esp (optional)
SLAnimLoader.esp
(Sexlab Addon\Plugin mod's .esp here)

 

 

Don't forget to install:

JContainers

 

 

Did I say already: Test on a new game? ?

If I disable Creature Framework I get an error saying that the Creature Framework esm is missing, even though More Nasty Critters ver 12 is installed...

[shortiron]

15 minutes ago, Giakou said:

If I disable Creature Framework I get an error saying that the Creature Framework esm is missing

No, what donttouchmethere meant by that was, if your CreatureFramework.esm came with the old Creature Framework mod you should disable it or just delete it because MNC came with its own updated version. If you don't have it, then that's okay because its definitely came with MNC.

Not telling you to disable the esm from the load order.

[donttouchmethere]

11 hours ago, shortiron said:

No, what donttouchmethere meant by that was, if your CreatureFramework.esm came with the old Creature Framework mod you should disable it or just delete it because MNC came with its own updated version. If you don't have it, then that's okay because its definitely came with MNC.

Not telling you to disable the esm from the load order.

Thx for clearing that up, I can imagine that my odd way to use english can be confusing. (even for myself lol)