Dark Arena SSE

[OsmelMC]

14 hours ago, Crewdoh said:

Next, during a loss in a pit fight scene Defeat/Death Alternative mod sometimes kicks in and my player gets transported out of the mod and into a DA event.  I've simply COC'd back to the Dark Arena and then TLC my way through the locked entry gate and everything seems to keep running.

@Delzaron i think you can use a event call on a ReferenceAlias of the player in the quest, to disable the Death Alternative and the Simple Slavery while the player is on the Dark Arena.

 

14 hours ago, Crewdoh said:

The other point and it's somewhat minor, there is no place to get water that I'm aware of.  Running iNeed in my game and the booze that you get from Liskett(name??) doesn't satisfy the water requirement.  The soup helps but would prefer water.

The bartender on the arena sales food and drinks but can't fill the water. Probably is not on the innkeepers faction or don't have the keyword of the job detected by iNeed.

 

14 hours ago, Crewdoh said:

The weirdest thing is my saves, when I'm in the Dark Arena all my saves start new.  Meaning that Skyrim saves it as a new game on each save. 

I also got that issue but I think was because I opened the RaceMenu and I have the Skyrim.ini option that hide the saved games of the rest of the characters i made. When you open the RaceMenu it's automatically start a new group of saved games. Probability this helps to find the reason.

 

 

14 hours ago, Crewdoh said:

And finally, is there a way I can replace the dancer's dress with something else?

For this i use my "Outfit Manager" and some of the "COCO Caress of Venus" dresses that comes with SMP physics and looks very good on sexy dancers. Is a configuration on my "Outfit Manager" so i don't made any patch because isn't needed.

 

 

Edited February 17, 2023 by OsmelMC

[Crewdoh]

18 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

@Delzaron i think you can use a event call on a ReferenceAlias of the player in the quest, to disable the Death Alternative and the Simple Slavery while the player is on the Dark Arena.

 

The bartender on the arena sales food and drinks but can't fill the water. Probably is not on the innkeepers faction or don't have the keyword of the job detected by iNeed.

 

I also got that issue but I think was because I opened the RaceMenu and I have the Skyrim.ini option that hide the saved games of the rest of the characters i made. When you open the RaceMenu it's automatically start a new group of saved games. Probability this helps to find the reason.

 

 

For this i use my "Outfit Manager" and some of the "COCO Caress of Venus" dresses that comes with SMP physics and looks very good on sexy dancers. Is a configuration on my "Outfit Manager" so i don't made any patch because isn't needed.

 

 

 

I will look into referenceAlias, thanks for the tip.

 

Yes, I went to the bartender to get water but even if he did sell it, I did not have any gold as my player was a slave of the Dark Arena.  Also, in the slavery state I did not have any waterskins as all possessions are taken away.  My workaround was simple, I just consoled a full waterskin into my inventory.  It works so it's not a major complaint that I can't get water just like immersion.

 

In regards to the save game issue, I think I figured out somewhat what is going on.  When I looked back at my saves I noted that my normal Skyrim saves had a bracketed M, ([M]) and the Dark Arena saves did not.  I'm guessing that the [M] is a note for modded games... why Dark Arena doesn't have this I don't know but it's the only external clue I could find.

 

Thanks for the tip on Outfit Manager, definitely will give that a try.  I was thinking the Caress of Venus was a good option and I like this one as well, https://www.daymarrworkshop.com/post/solace-dress-le-se

 

Thanks for the helpful replies.

[Delzaron]

36 minutes ago, Crewdoh said:

 

I will look into referenceAlias, thanks for the tip.

 

Yes, I went to the bartender to get water but even if he did sell it, I did not have any gold as my player was a slave of the Dark Arena.  Also, in the slavery state I did not have any waterskins as all possessions are taken away.  My workaround was simple, I just consoled a full waterskin into my inventory.  It works so it's not a major complaint that I can't get water just like immersion.

 

In regards to the save game issue, I think I figured out somewhat what is going on.  When I looked back at my saves I noted that my normal Skyrim saves had a bracketed M, ([M]) and the Dark Arena saves did not.  I'm guessing that the [M] is a note for modded games... why Dark Arena doesn't have this I don't know but it's the only external clue I could find.

 

Thanks for the tip on Outfit Manager, definitely will give that a try.  I was thinking the Caress of Venus was a good option and I like this one as well, https://www.daymarrworkshop.com/post/solace-dress-le-se

 

Thanks for the helpful replies.

I can't take count of all the mods.

I don't use ineeds, my skyrim installation is minimal for better mod dev.

 

Spawn it by console if you need it, or create your patch. I'm sure there is a way to add the required stuff in the bartender inventory.

 

 

[OsmelMC]

46 minutes ago, Crewdoh said:

Yes, I went to the bartender to get water but even if he did sell it, I did not have any gold as my player was a slave of the Dark Arena.  Also, in the slavery state I did not have any waterskins as all possessions are taken away.  My workaround was simple, I just consoled a full waterskin into my inventory.  It works so it's not a major complaint that I can't get water just like immersion.

Well, you can also place a bucket of water somewhere in the rooms or outside the pit. That way you can get free water and will be immersive. I can make a patch for that. Also remember that you are a slave hungry, thirsty and without money so if you can't win it you should steal it (that's immersion).

 

 

 

[OsmelMC]

59 minutes ago, Crewdoh said:

Thanks for the tip on Outfit Manager, definitely will give that a try.  I was thinking the Caress of Venus was a good option and I like this one as well, https://www.daymarrworkshop.com/post/solace-dress-le-se

 

The Outfit Manager allow you make Advanced Behaviors for the actors where you said what the NPC will use and where. Is the most advanced wardrobe you can find but also can be harder to config because allow you do more than you can imagine.

 

The best part is that all your changes once exported, can be imported into a new game. So you don't have to do all the configuration again.

 

Not only let you use any vanilla or predefined outfit, also let you make your own custom outfits with any combination of clothes and armor's. So is compatible with all the dress, armor or weapons of any Mod.

[Delzaron]

On 2/17/2023 at 7:25 AM, Crewdoh said:

Just here to report my experiences with the mod and some minor issues I'm having.  The weirdest thing is my saves, when I'm in the Dark Arena all my saves start new.  Meaning that Skyrim saves it as a new game on each save.  Not sure if that's clear, when I load the mod from a previous save I will have multiple single saves as if they were different characters.  The nice thing that on my system the mod is incredibly stable so I don't feel the need to save very often.

 

Next, during a loss in a pit fight scene Defeat/Death Alternative mod sometimes kicks in and my player gets transported out of the mod and into a DA event.  I've simply COC'd back to the Dark Arena and then TLC my way through the locked entry gate and everything seems to keep running.

 

I've also had the issue with not being able to be sent back to the Dark Arena a second time from Simple Slavery but that was on a different game with the previous version of the mod.  Haven't had second SS event come up in my new save but thought I would mention it.

 

Two other points to bring up, rather requests.  The first is Borka threatens the player if they do not comply with the demand to win/lose the match but nothing ever happens that I'm aware of.  A whipping scene, similar to Prison Alternative would be interesting.

 

The other point and it's somewhat minor, there is no place to get water that I'm aware of.  Running iNeed in my game and the booze that you get from Liskett(name??) doesn't satisfy the water requirement.  The soup helps but would prefer water.

 

And finally, is there a way I can replace the dancer's dress with something else?

 

Let me end this with stating what an excellent mod you've created.  I know I listed a handful of issues but the mod itself is really well thought out and runs pretty good.  Thanks for all your work.

 

I don't use defeat alternative, so the mod don't contains any scripts to counter that effect.

That need a patch I can't do, because I don't know how defeat alternative works.

 

Yes, people got issues with being sold a second time to dark arena, through simple slavery or by the exit guard in older version. It's fixed.

 

Something will happen if you win a match you're supposed to loose... but that's not a whipping scene.

 

I don't use ineeds either, so the mod don't plan to give player water.

[Delzaron]

On 2/18/2023 at 5:28 PM, OsmelMC said:

The Outfit Manager allow you make Advanced Behaviors for the actors where you said what the NPC will use and where. Is the most advanced wardrobe you can find but also can be harder to config because allow you do more than you can imagine.

 

The best part is that all your changes once exported, can be imported into a new game. So you don't have to do all the configuration again.

 

Not only let you use any vanilla or predefined outfit, also let you make your own custom outfits with any combination of clothes and armor's. So is compatible with all the dress, armor or weapons of any Mod.

 

how that coco dress works ?

 

I saw the requirements... it's huge...

How I could use it with cbbe body ?

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, Delzaron said:

 

how that coco dress works ?

 

I saw the requirements... it's huge...

How I could use it with cbbe body ?

The only requirement is "FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP" for the SMP physics.

For the CBBE Body, just download the version for CBBE.

 

For a dress like this, probably be better just a patch. Because LE don't come with SMP physics and the BodySlide's is mandatory so you will need the original Mod anyway.

Edited February 20, 2023 by OsmelMC

[Delzaron]

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

The only requirement is "FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP" for the SMP physics.

For the CBBE Body, just download the version for CBBE.

 

For a dress like this, probably be better just a patch. Because LE don't come with SMP physics and the BodySlide's is mandatory so you will need the original Mod anyway.

 

Yep. A patch for Dark Arena SE.

I download that dress too, I need to see it in game. Maybe I'll made patch too for a future NMM SE...

[Delzaron]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

The only requirement is "FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP" for the SMP physics.

For the CBBE Body, just download the version for CBBE.

 

For a dress like this, probably be better just a patch. Because LE don't come with SMP physics and the BodySlide's is mandatory so you will need the original Mod anyway.

 

it's the COCO Caress of Venus - CBBE 3BA ?

[OsmelMC]

25 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

 

it's the COCO Caress of Venus - CBBE 3BA ?

Yes if you are using the 3BA Body. But the ones for COCOBody have more compatibility at least if is based on the last version of COCOBody that include the 3BA sliders too.

 

[Delzaron]

6 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Yes if you are using the 3BA Body. But the ones for COCOBody have more compatibility at least if is based on the last version of COCOBody that include the 3BA sliders too.

 

i use CBBE only... which version I need ? there are four available...

[OsmelMC]

16 minutes ago, Delzaron said:

i use CBBE only... which version I need ? there are four available...

The CBBE COCOBody... Have all the CBBE sliders.

[Delzaron]

On 2/20/2023 at 9:00 PM, OsmelMC said:

The CBBE COCOBody... Have all the CBBE sliders.

 

I downloaded and installed coco stuff, the physic stuff also.

I launch, no problem... but none of the items of that mod (tag venuss, checked in ck) appears in game.

Did I miss something ?

[Crewdoh]

On 2/18/2023 at 10:56 AM, Delzaron said:

I can't take count of all the mods.

I don't use ineeds, my skyrim installation is minimal for better mod dev.

 

Spawn it by console if you need it, or create your patch. I'm sure there is a way to add the required stuff in the bartender inventory.

 

 

 

I understand and I don't expect you to take account of all mods.  I've made enough work arounds for my issues so that's not a big deal.  Just thought I would make a mention.

 

The save issue is bizarre though.  Also, what's with the bent over animations.  It's neat at first but it never stops until I pay off the debt.  I'm assuming that's from this mod otherwise it's a weird coincidence.

 

Please don't take my comments as negative criticisms, just pointing out some of my experiences.  Really appreciate the effort you've put into this mod, very well done.

[Crewdoh]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:36 AM, Delzaron said:

 

I don't use defeat alternative, so the mod don't contains any scripts to counter that effect.

That need a patch I can't do, because I don't know how defeat alternative works.

 

 

Something will happen if you win a match you're supposed to loose... but that's not a whipping scene.

 

The Defeat/Death Alternative issue rarely triggers, again, just thought I would make mention.  Your mod manages the fight scene quite well.  There are simply times when I'm swinging away too much towards the end and then it triggers.

 

Okay, I haven't noticed an extra scene with Borka but my issue is losing when I should win not winning when I should lose.

 

Thanks again!

[OsmelMC]

6 hours ago, Delzaron said:

 

I downloaded and installed coco stuff, the physic stuff also.

I launch, no problem... but none of the items of that mod (tag venuss, checked in ck) appears in game.

Did I miss something ?

You have to build the meshes with the BodySlide and the the items have very bad names and the recipes for the items aren't immersive so is hard know which items is until see it on the inventory.

 

I end tweaking every part of the Mod for my game. Basically the author is a master of the 3D but have just the basic knowledge about the game and the Mods or at least don't care about that.

[Delzaron]

9 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

You have to build the meshes with the BodySlide and the the items have very bad names and the recipes for the items aren't immersive so is hard know which items is until see it on the inventory.

 

I end tweaking every part of the Mod for my game. Basically the author is a master of the 3D but have just the basic knowledge about the game and the Mods or at least don't care about that.

building meshes... ok, I'll try.

 

I made a esp with a chest who contains all the coco armors... so i'll see.

[Delzaron]

9 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

You have to build the meshes with the BodySlide and the the items have very bad names and the recipes for the items aren't immersive so is hard know which items is until see it on the inventory.

 

I end tweaking every part of the Mod for my game. Basically the author is a master of the 3D but have just the basic knowledge about the game and the Mods or at least don't care about that.

 

Ok... i sued bodyslide to edit all the meshes.

my chest don't work;

 

I used console to get woms items, but thx to my asus keywboard, I can't scroll on console...

And I got an itneresting problem. look.

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, Delzaron said:

 

Ok... i sued bodyslide to edit all the meshes.

my chest don't work;

 

I used console to get woms items, but thx to my asus keywboard, I can't scroll on console...

And I got an itneresting problem. look.

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Looks like you haven't build the meshes with the right preset.

 

You don't have to modify the BodySlide. Just select the preset you use for your body from the list and press the "Build" button at the bottom of the window 

 

Have to be the same preset you use for your naked body, otherwise you will end with issues like that.

 

In the picture the problem is on the breasts physics, seems like the preset you use to build have more Brest size that the one used for the body. The SMP physics on this dress are very realistic and isn't attached to the body Bones so runs free most of the time the cloth detect the body sizes and just fall over the body like real life clothes. The problem is that he have none way to know the real sizes of the body and instead use the grey breast you can see on the BodySlide that by the way is invisible on the game. So that invisible grey breast have to be build with the same sizes that your naked body.

 

 

Like i said, isn't good idea include the dress as part of the Mod. Between other things you will end answer more questions about the dress than the quest in self. But as patch you can always send the users to ask in the page of the author of the dress.

 

 

 

[BasketCase1980]

was looking to see if it was posted but i didnt see anything could of missed it, Im on the server customers task where i have to serve 3 customers, but i talk to them and then they say "lead the way" and nothing, no marker whre to go or anything, am I missing something?

[OsmelMC]

5 hours ago, BasketCase1980 said:

was looking to see if it was posted but i didnt see anything could of missed it, Im on the server customers task where i have to serve 3 customers, but i talk to them and then they say "lead the way" and nothing, no marker whre to go or anything, am I missing something?

Probably is the old bug of the pole dance, where the quest is started before time and can't progress because you are not supposed to be working as dancer. 

 

The bug was fixed on one of my fix already included. I also did another fix to restart the quest in cases like your's. Just talk with the barkeeper about the job's to properly start the job Quest's 

[skredram]

Is there a good way to change the outfit you have to wear while working at the club in cbbe? For example say I wanted to customize the outfit, would I have to use outfit studio and boot up a different .nif file?

 

[danna233]

I had 1.41 version, on it I completed the main quest, without slavery and other troubles freed the girl. Then I upgraded to version 1.42. After that, decided to go back and look at the scenario of slavery. And it does not work. I drove my GG into slavery in the arena and lost all their things, I refuse to return them even though the debt to the arena is no more. Lizzkit however continues to give tasks and opened special battles. At which no one comes. The first was a cadjit, he ran away and I ran after him all over the location that would kill, along the way had to knock down guards, as they hooked fireballs. But I got squalid equipment and weapons. The next battle I had to lose, but in the arena no one came out, the map showed that the fighter is outside the location. I killed Borka out of anger, thinking that she would be counted instead of the right fighter. But this did not happen. In general, in this whole story, I lost the most valuable thing for a gamer, this kit, I can survive a lot, but not the loss of things)  Sorry about my google translator)

[Guest]

On 2/26/2023 at 9:56 AM, OsmelMC said:

Probably is the old bug of the pole dance, where the quest is started before time and can't progress because you are not supposed to be working as dancer. 

 

The bug was fixed on one of my fix already included. I also did another fix to restart the quest in cases like your's. Just talk with the barkeeper about the job's to properly start the job Quest's 

It did that for me too, but... when I exited the dialogue then asked them a second time they woke up and all went well. Works for me ;).