Bravil Underground v0.96

[vashar]

That's good!

[iggypop1]

I just killed Lady Rogbut in the Wayward Daughter quest. Finished training her' date=' she attacked after speaking with her as normal, and then I killed her. Oops.

 

After poking around in the CS, I realized that since I have completed the fighter's guild quest line she's no longer essential. Apparently Bravil Underground doesn't make her essential again for this quest - at least not in my game.

 

I found two solutions. One is to use the Reanimate spell to bring her back. The other is to just yield to her, talk to her, repeat. I didn't even have to hit her.

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I have the same problem (finished all quests) another solution: go to the clinic and talk to the guy upstairs to make lady rugdump essential.

Question: I got bored with trying to break her( her progress was 33 animals fucked and some humans) so i went to clinic talked to the guy upstairs wich broke her. Now should i have a quest update here?

The log says go and fight something, when she is broken, to "get her blood up" i did Minotaurs, Ogres etc, but no quest update!

(Now she have trained 47 times with animals and a lot with humans)

So what to do?

[Sarnaath]

I have the same problem (finished all quests) another solution: go to the clinic and talk to the guy upstairs to make lady rugdump essential.

Question: I got bored with trying to break her( her progress was 33 animals fucked and some humans) so i went to clinic talked to the guy upstairs wich broke her. Now should i have a quest update here?

The log says go and fight something' date=' when she is broken, to "get her blood up" i did Minotaurs, Ogres etc, but no quest update!

(Now she have trained 47 times with animals and a lot with humans)

So what to do?

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Good idea about making her immortal with the guy in the clinic! I didn't think about that.

 

Training Lady Rogbut requires only human training (speak to Onan for advice), I don't think you even have to break her. Once she's got enough human training, she should greet the PC with, "Look how fierce I have become!....." and start combat with the player. I think that's what the log means by "After training her I'll need to pick some fights to get her blood up." You don't need to do anything, she'll pick the fight with your PC automatically when she's had enough training with humans, and your PC talks to her.

[flyingtoasters]

After I catch up with Romeo what am I suppose to do with him? Not getting any new responses from John or HanPL after enslaving Romeo and breaking him so I guess I wan't suppose to do that, my only other options seems to be to fight him or let him go.

[fejeena]

flyingtoasters you must kill Romeo or let him go to finish the quest.

[Sarnaath]

flyingtoasters you must kill Romeo or let him go to finish the quest.

 

After either of those options you can enslave him and Juliet, but then they are just ordinary slaves, nothing special about them.

[athel228]

They are all respawning enemies

 

That's probably the issue. Respawning enemies generally are not a good choice to try and enslave. Try named NPCs that do not respawn. One exception is the marauders that attack Battlescorn Castle. Those 4 or 5 NPCs are not set to respawn. I've successfully used the Reanimate spell on them' date=' broke them, sold them, packed them, etc.

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Exactly as Sarnaath said. Respawning NPC's are trouble. Try to avoid them as far as enslavement and trying to drag them around. Not only do you have the issues you list but they can add save game bloat if you start taking too many. The save game bloat comes from the game generating a new copy of them after 3 days.

 

That solved the problem. I got rid of the respawning enemy slaves and enslaved a non-respawning NPC and was able to pack them away. thank s for all the help.

[vashar]

The Lady Rogbut quest reminds me, I need to rewrite the wiki article on that quest.

 

Also, you can use CM Partners to essentialize her, which is what I did.

[gregathit]

The Lady Rogbut quest reminds me' date=' I need to rewrite the wiki article on that quest.

 

Also, you can use CM Partners to essentialize her, which is what I did.

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A really simple and REALLY useful little plugin is this one: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/20509

 

I never leave home without it.

 

Now of course, a word of caution, only remove the essential status from an NPC if you are CERTAIN you don't need them anymore!!!

 

Setting some NPC's as essential "could" also break a quest if that NPC is scripted to die.

[vashar]

Should I put a link to that in the Wiki article, then?

[gregathit]

Should I put a link to that in the Wiki article' date=' then?

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It is your call.

 

You could put a note that if someone has completed the vanilla quest involving her then they need to be aware that her "essential" status has been removed and they need to be really careful with her or use a plugin similar to that one.

[vashar]

I did that and included a link to that and Mad Companionship Spells.

(Which is what I originally meant to say, not CM partners, hah!)

[vashar]

The Lady Rogbut quest reminds me' date=' I need to rewrite the wiki article on that quest.

 

Also, you can use CM Partners to essentialize her, which is what I did.

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Or Mad Companion Spell

 

See my post, directly above yours

[Godjason123]

when i sented my slave to the circle of candles in the quest "Vengeance" when i talked to my slave,she just greet me master normally no extra dialog or anything,i even added like 10000 nightshade in my inventory via console and yet no progress? is it my game,load order or am i supposed to do something in order to progress?

[Guest Plastrader]

I say, about three hours later I got what I needed, or atleast I thought so because as soon as I start Oblivion it CTD...

 

I got OBSE

 

Then I followed the instructions from this

 

And found the plugins from here

I think I found:

MBP 1.4a

But the links there are n/a or 404...

 

I could download MBP++ v98

But the .rtf didn't do much good as I'm not fluent in Japaneese...

 

And "Shivering Isles.esp" is that some expansion and why is that needed?

 

gregathit, would you mind linking the requirements?

 

I see this might be a 40cm problem so could someone please direct me to a simplified instruction on how to get these kind of mods to work properly with Oblivion?

 

Thanks in advance.

[gregathit]

The version of OBSE you got is probably ok, but in the future (if OBSE ever gets updated) get it from here: http://obse.silverlock.org/

That is the official website from the guys that make OBSE.

 

MBP 1.4a links can be found right here (along with a detailed guide): http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=1602

 

You need to install MBP 1.4a FIRST, then install MBP++ v98a (it even says this on the nexus website where you obtained MBP++). You don't need to read the readme text as the instructions for MBP++ are right on the descriptions page: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/37368

 

The MBP link you list is NOT 1.4a so don't bother using it as it won't enable you to use Bravil Underground.

 

Shivering Isles is indeed an official expansion by Bethesda. If you don't have it then you can't play this plugin. There are creatures and other resources that Bravil Underground needs that come from it. Sorry.

 

There really aren't simplified instructions as this is fairly complicated type stuff. You need to have the basics of modding under your belt or you are going to get a bit frustrated. Here is a link to modding basics: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/Oblivion_Mods_FAQ

[Guest Plastrader]

Shivering Isles is indeed an official expansion by Bethesda. If you don't have it then you can't play this plugin. There are creatures and other resources that Bravil Underground needs that come from it. Sorry.

No need to appologize

 

I feel rather awkward having to ask these questions but I haven't used any mods with Oblivion before.

 

Thank you for your answers, I'll just reinstall Oblivion then and try to find some other mods which doesn't have that requirement, if there are any.

[gregathit]

Shivering Isles is indeed an official expansion by Bethesda. If you don't have it then you can't play this plugin. There are creatures and other resources that Bravil Underground needs that come from it. Sorry.

No need to appologize

 

I feel rather awkward having to ask these questions but I haven't used any mods with Oblivion before.

 

Thank you for your answers' date=' I'll just reinstall Oblivion then and try to find some other mods which doesn't have that requirement, if there are any.

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Unfortunately many of the lovers plugins do require both MBP and the shivering isles.

 

Best bet is to keep an eye out on steam as they periodically mark the GOTY version of oblivion (which has the shivering isles expansion) down to a few dollars.

 

Cheers,

Greg

[Godjason123]

Ummm,excuse me,don't mean to be annoying,but is it possible to ask you to answer my question please? i wouldn't have asked you if i could fix my own problem myself,since i have no idea why i couldn't progress i thought the easiest way was to ask the experts.

[gregathit]

You should be able to talk to the slave and have the additional dialogue "if" the slave is inside the circle. I am not sure why it isn't working for you. Try walking out of the warehouse, waiting a minute or two and then going back in to talk to your slave.

[Godjason123]

You should be able to talk to the slave and have the additional dialogue "if" the slave is inside the circle. I am not sure why it isn't working for you. Try walking out of the warehouse' date=' waiting a minute or two and then going back in to talk to your slave.

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Tried it,doesn't work,i tried to enslave a slave who isn't broken,did not work,i waited until 12am,did not work. i read the news paper and it mentioned about the night mother,so does that mean i have to join the dark brother and probably finish their story before i can progress? in the meantime while i'm waiting for your reply, i will go join dark brotherhood and try again.

 

Edit: i also enslaved a non essential slave and it did not work.

 

Edit:i joined the dark brotherhood and tried again and it didn't gave me any dialog,just normal

[gregathit]

If you have the required items and the slave then it should work. If it isn't then I am not sure what to tell you. You may have a mod conflict.

 

You do NOT need to join the Dark Brotherhood for this or any other Bravil Underground quest.

 

Did you try putting the two night shade flowers in the circle with the slave. It has been awhile since I last played this plugin so I don't remember exactly what all steps were needed.

[Godjason123]

If you have the required items and the slave then it should work. If it isn't then I am not sure what to tell you. You may have a mod conflict.

 

You do NOT need to join the Dark Brotherhood for this or any other Bravil Underground quest.

 

Did you try putting the two night shade flowers in the circle with the slave. It has been awhile since I last played this plugin so I don't remember exactly what all steps were needed.

 

yeah atm,i have 6 nightshade i added them via console,before i added like 10000 nightshade via console too,didn't work and as for dropping the flower next to the slave,i have not tried it yet,i will now do it.

 

Edit:doesn't work,i put all 6 nightshade serperate inside the circle with the slave inside the circle as well,doesn't give me any dialog i even waited like 10 hours and it's the same doesn't give any dialog but the normal ones.

[gregathit]

It may be that the console added nightshade are not working if some other mod tampered with their id's. You should be able to purchase what you need from the medical clinic.

[Godjason123]

It may be that the console added nightshade are not working if some other mod tampered with their id's. You should be able to purchase what you need from the medical clinic.

 

Still doesn't work,the medical clinic woman doesn't have it,then i went to "The Main Ingredient" in imperial City to buy 4 nightshades,then i tried again talking to her,still doesn't work,so i drop and grabbed all 4 nightshades seperately inside the circle with the slave too but STILL doesn't work.*sigh* this might really be a mod conflict,do you want me to list my load order?

 

Edit: Gregahit,is it possible to ask you,when you first completed this quest,can you tell me what you did? so that i will study your statement and try to find anything that i might not have done,but if you forgotten about it,that's fine,but it's gonna be a pain in the a*s to solve this.