gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Ok' date=' here is a problem I might have missed on the first go round: 27 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp <---this is not the SSP version. 28 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp <---this requires the SSP version of adult play plus which you are not running. [/quote'] That's not actually the old version. I renamed the SSP one to that and made VoiceSSPplus look for that....I can't exactly remember why though. Think I read it somewhere on here as a way to deal with them not being able to find each other properly. How long is Rena supposed to take? She's up to 170 with creatures now. Only been using dogs on her. Oh, and I found Nora. She was in Alexei's house, getting stuck behind Alexei and Quai. And as for the MBP order...You told me to put NoSC and Ashara's Titans in that spot here: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=8889&pid=265285#pid265285 On the adult play plus vs SSP - if you renamed VoiceSSP's master then you should be ok. Not sure why you would want to do that, but it should be ok. Are you periodically talking to Rena? You have to talk to folks every so often to get them to break. On the MBP order - yes I did tell you that, but I assumed you had the ones you had bashed into your load order up above them. Because you didn't show your full load order via Wyre Bash (until now) I had no clue you had all the others below. If you are not having any problems then leave things as they are. If you do start having missing textures or strange stuff you may have to go back and address it.
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Are you periodically talking to Rena? You have to talk to folks every so often to get them to break. Talking to her constantly' date=' nothing's happening. Would the actual LoversBitch.esp be interfering? I know I don't need it for BU, but I wanted it in there for the dog stuff. On the MBP order - yes I did tell you that, but I assumed you had the ones you had bashed into your load order up above them. Because you didn't show your full load order via Wyre Bash (until now) I had no clue you had all the others below. If you are not having any problems then leave things as they are. If you do start having missing textures or strange stuff you may have to go back and address it. It's just the two NPCs that are having problems. I don't know if Evenia is actually important or not, but she is doing the "I have no greeting" thing. The medical NPC with the same texture problems is working fine. I'll try moving the rest of MBP up with the other two, see if that works. Edit: No, didn't change. Evenia's still pink and bugged. Load order again in case I messed up and got some switched around without noticing. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 Chanpon.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 LoversCreature.esm 06 CosmeticOverhaulPack.esm 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 Knights.esp 09 SetBody.esp 0A AutoSetBody.esp 0B FuroGeneratorTrap.esp 0C PlomsOrcOverhaul v1.2.esp 0D PlomsArgonianOverhaul.esp 0E PlomsKhajiitOverhaul.esp 0F Slof's Horses Base.esp 10 Slof's Extra Horses.esp 11 Slof's Extra Horses 2.esp 12 UChainBeast.esp 13 zzEstrus.esp 14 R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp 15 PrisonIrons.esp 16 FutaPriory.esp 17 0FLeatherSuitV2.esp 18 HGEC Shemales.esp 19 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 1A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 1B Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp 1C x117race.esp 1D DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ** Lop-ears Elf.esp 1E Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp 1F From2ch Lives.esp 20 From2ch Lives Boss.esp 21 F2LMiqoteAddon.esp 22 F2L_FaceChange.esp 23 117NPCs.esp 24 F2LAddon_MSElves.esp 25 F2LHideRaces.esp 26 LoversFSE.esp 27 LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp 28 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 29 LoversRaperS.esp 2A LoversJoburg.esp 2B LoversBed.esp 2C LoversPower.esp 2D LoversContraception.esp 2E Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 2F LoversBitch.esp 30 LoversCreature.esp ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp ++ LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp 31 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 32 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 33 LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 34 LoversRapeSlave.esp 35 LoversLight.esp 36 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp 37 LoversTachiCat2.esp 38 LoversSlavePlay.esp 39 LoversMotionsNT.esp 3A LoversSlaveTrader.esp 3B LSTBravilUnderground.esp ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp ++ EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp ++ EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 3C Bashed Patch, 0.esp 3D LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 3E LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Unfortunately you will have to rebuild your bashed patch to fix the MBP items. If that doesn't work you may even have to make a clean save (try starting a new game to see if that helps - if so then try the clean save - if not then we will have to try something else). I don't remember an Evenia so I doubt she matters. If everyone else is working then it may not be worth messing with right now. Not sure on Rena. Have you also trained her with humans some (around 10 times or so)? Try that and see if it helps. Lovers Bitch "shouldn't be messing with things as long since it is higher in the load order. Holler if training with humans some doesn't help things. I don't remember if I asked but which version of slave trader and bravil underground are you using? Choose only one of these: ** Lop-ears Elf.esp 1E Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Unfortunately you will have to rebuild your bashed patch to fix the MBP items. If that doesn't work you may even have to make a clean save (try starting a new game to see if that helps - if so then try the clean save - if not then we will have to try something else). Re-bashed it before trying again. Nothing. I get the feeling it might be some Diablo Elf stuff missing' date=' as I went through the races in showracemenu, and all the Diablo Elf models looked exactly the same. By the way, this is Evenia: Since you said you don't know who she is, I'm thinking she might just be a standard female trainer. Not sure on Rena. Have you also trained her with humans some (around 10 times or so)? Try that and see if it helps. Lovers Bitch "shouldn't be messing with things as long since it is higher in the load order. Holler if training with humans some doesn't help things. Rena's up to 208 er...points with dogs and 20 with humans I don't remember if I asked but which version of slave trader and bravil underground are you using? I'm using the Bravil Underground one from the first post in this thread (not the one you posted recently with dialogue changes or whatever it was)' date=' and the v91 of SlaveTrader, seeing as apparently 1.0 is buggy Choose only one of these: ** Lop-ears Elf.esp 1E Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp I am only using one. Not sure what the Wrye load order is saying with those two, but it's definitely off in OBMM.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Re-bashed it before trying again. Nothing. I get the feeling it might be some Diablo Elf stuff missing' date=' as I went through the races in showracemenu, and all the Diablo Elf models looked exactly the same. [/quote'] But did you start a new game to see if she is fixed? Sometimes a new game or clean save is required to correct this. Diablo elves stuff should not have anything to do with this. I don't even have that installed and I work fine. I try looking up her race record info to figure out what the deal is. By the way' date=' this is Evenia: Since you said you don't know who she is, I'm thinking she might just be a standard female trainer. [/quote'] Ok, I remember her now. She is just a trainer and plays no role other than "filler". If she is the only one messed up then I wouldn't mess with things. Rena's up to 208 er...points with dogs and 20 with humans Try some more humans (go to 40-50) and if that doesn't work then take her over and have her memory wiped at the clinic and see if that helps. If none of that helps it may be that lovers bitch is messing things up. I'm using the Bravil Underground one from the first post in this thread (not the one you posted recently with dialogue changes or whatever it was)' date=' and the v91 of SlaveTrader, seeing as apparently 1.0 is buggy. [/quote'] Good. Just making sure that there wasn't anything "other" going on. I am only using one. Not sure what the Wrye load order is saying with those two' date=' but it's definitely off in OBMM. [/quote'] ** Lop-ears Elf.esp <---this was merged or had records included in the bashed patch. It has to be disabled (and preferably removed from the data folder) prior to rebuilding your bashed patch.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Evenia is a Lop Chocolate Elf. Check that you have the textures they need at: oblivion\data\textures\Characters\Chocolate\Female\FootFemale.dds There should be other dds files in the folder too.
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 But did you start a new game to see if she is fixed? Sometimes a new game or clean save is required to correct this. Does loading a really old save count? I kept a save at the sewer gate (where you can make changes) before any mods had been added. Try some more humans (go to 40-50) and if that doesn't work then take her over and have her memory wiped at the clinic and see if that helps. If none of that helps it may be that lovers bitch is messing things up. Alright' date=' I'll try some more humans. How does the memory wipe thing work anyway? ** Lop-ears Elf.esp <---this was merged or had records included in the bashed patch. It has to be disabled (and preferably removed from the data folder) prior to rebuilding your bashed patch. Alright, I'll remove that physically. Evenia is a Lop Chocolate Elf. Check that you have the textures they need at: oblivion\data\textures\Characters\Chocolate\Female\FootFemale.dds There should be other dds files in the folder too. Yes, got that file. Just to be sure, is it supposed to be 21,846KB? There's also a HandFemale.dds that's only 683KB
ahrimangame Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Hi I have some new bugs in this update that i havent in last version, First the animals in breeding guild wont show up even that im a member and have the key, second the quest where i have to give gold to fan boy so he will go away wont work anymore! (i give gold to him he do his job but no quest update!) the knight girl also is bugged! she is ready to have sex with the orc but the journal guy comments wont get updated, PS i have loaded the esp as last one! also when i click on the ESP on Oblivion mod manager it says version 0.94, Any idea?
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 But did you start a new game to see if she is fixed? Sometimes a new game or clean save is required to correct this. Does loading a really old save count? I kept a save at the sewer gate (where you can make changes) before any mods had been added. If you had MBP loaded in that save' date=' then no. A clean save is one where you disable the plugins involved, then load the game and the save you wan to clean, then make a new manual save and exit the game. Then enable the plugins you changed\updated\moved and fire the game up and load the save you just made. Alright, I'll try some more humans. How does the memory wipe thing work anyway? There are various things you can do and it gives you a menu of options. The one you want is to reset them and then make them a sex slave again if more training fails. ** Lop-ears Elf.esp <---this was merged or had records included in the bashed patch. It has to be disabled (and preferably removed from the data folder) prior to rebuilding your bashed patch. Alright' date=' I'll remove that physically. [/quote'] That is best. Remember that if you have any esp\esm files that you are not using then remove them from the data folder. The game counts those towards your limit even though it doesn't use them. Now don't remove anything that is merged into your bashed patch and disabled. If you do that you'll be screwed the next time you need to rebuild your bashed patch.
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 If you had MBP loaded in that save' date=' then no. A clean save is one where you disable the plugins involved, then load the game and the save you wan to clean, then make a new manual save and exit the game. Then enable the plugins you changed\updated\moved and fire the game up and load the save you just made. [/quote'] This save was made well before I even heard of MBP or even Lovers Lab. This is a clean save at the sewer exit so I don't have to traipse through the intro every time. Oh, I just thought of something. Are there any options in the bashing that SHOULDN"T be ticked? I know that Form ID one shouldn't be because Wrye freezes. Any others?
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Hi I have some new bugs in this update that i havent in last version' date=' First the animals in breeding guild wont show up even that im a member and have the key, second the quest where i have to give gold to fan boy so he will go away wont work anymore! (i give gold to him he do his job but no quest update!) the knight girl also is bugged! she is ready to have sex with the orc but the journal guy comments wont get updated, PS i have loaded the esp as last one! also when i click on the ESP on Oblivion mod manager it says version 0.94, Any idea? [/quote'] 1st off there hasn't been any update recently (unless you are talking about the beta in the other thread - if you are, then please post your comments over there, so as not to confuse folks regarding this version). I haven't updated anything on this plugin in this thread since the beginning of August. If you are missing animals then you don't have the required plugins installed. Go back and read the OP to see the requirements to run this. If you give him gold he fucks which ever girl he is sweet on for the moment. He does this several times for each of the three girls. The update doesn't happen until the last girl I think. On the Female Knight Mia, your sure that she is ready? You broke her with the creatures and got all the updates? Your comment on load order scares me. This plugin should not be last in your load order. The proper place for it can be found here: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 The comment on v94 with OBMM - I think you have done something strange. I just looked at mine and it says v96 so you must have installed an old version somehow.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 If you had MBP loaded in that save' date=' then no. A clean save is one where you disable the plugins involved, then load the game and the save you wan to clean, then make a new manual save and exit the game. Then enable the plugins you changed\updated\moved and fire the game up and load the save you just made. [/quote'] This save was made well before I even heard of MBP or even Lovers Lab. This is a clean save at the sewer exit so I don't have to traipse through the intro every time. Oh, I just thought of something. Are there any options in the bashing that SHOULDN"T be ticked? I know that Form ID one shouldn't be because Wrye freezes. Any others? The save should be fine then. That is a wise move on your part. Make sure you keep that saved game, as it saves a bunch of time! As to the bashed patch - nothing that is relevant to this particular case that I am aware of. Did you see my note on Evenia's race (post 531 above)?
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Did you see my note on Evenia's race (post 531 above)? Yes, got that file. Just to be sure, is it supposed to be 21,846KB? There's also a HandFemale.dds that's only 683KB
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Did you see my note on Evenia's race (post 531 above)? Yes' date=' got that file. Just to be sure, is it supposed to be 21,846KB? There's also a HandFemale.dds that's only 683KB [/quote'] Correct. There should also be: LegFemale.dds 171KB UpperBodyFemale.dds 171KB And there should be: oblivion\data\textures\Characters\Chocolate\Head\ChocolateFace1.dds 683KB
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 LegFemale.dds 171KB UpperBodyFemale.dds 171KB No, it's just FootFemale.dds and HandFemale.dds. I reckon we're closing on the problem if I'm missing those files.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 LegFemale.dds 171KB UpperBodyFemale.dds 171KB No' date=' it's just FootFemale.dds and HandFemale.dds. I reckon we're closing on the problem if I'm missing those files. [/quote'] Ok, here is a 7zip file with the needed textures. You will need to manually place them. Unzip to a temp location and then drag the chocolate folder (with everything in it) and drop it into: Oblivion\data\textures\characters\ You should get a merge popup for the chocolate folder and it may also popup some overwrites. Say yes as long as the file sizes are the same. [attachment=17907]
Damoriva Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 Ok' date=' here is a 7zip file with the needed textures. You will need to manually place them. Unzip to a temp location and then drag the chocolate folder (with everything in it) and drop it into: Oblivion\data\textures\characters\ You should get a merge popup for the chocolate folder and it may also popup some overwrites. Say yes as long as the file sizes are the same. [/quote'] Good news! They have faces now! But...still pink bodies...
yoyoman Posted October 30, 2012 Posted October 30, 2012 I am getting the " I HAVE NO GREETING" bug for many NPCs in this mod. ( Simza, the dancers in the mansion,Asan) Those are the ones I've seen so far and they are all using custom races. I've tried modifying load order, but I still get the bug. Please help. EDIT: It seems it was the captive maidens mod was the problem. I merged the esp with some other minor mod and made some custom races unplayable with it so that must of been the problem.
gregathit Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 Ok' date=' here is a 7zip file with the needed textures. You will need to manually place them. Unzip to a temp location and then drag the chocolate folder (with everything in it) and drop it into: Oblivion\data\textures\characters\ You should get a merge popup for the chocolate folder and it may also popup some overwrites. Say yes as long as the file sizes are the same. [/quote'] Good news! They have faces now! But...still pink bodies... You did rebuild your bashed patch and try that early saved game you have to see if that helped right? If that doesn't fix it then I don't know what the problem is. You may have another mod that is interfering. Try using refscope on her to see what mod her body textures are from: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21862
Damoriva Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 You did rebuild your bashed patch and try that early saved game you have to see if that helped right? If that doesn't fix it then I don't know what the problem is. You may have another mod that is interfering. Try using refscope on her to see what mod her body textures are from: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/21862 Tried out Refscope. Dunno if it will help at all but here's some logged data on Rannock (the medical NPC who's also pink). ----[ 2012-10-31 14:01:40] Reference 3C0186C4 (Persistent) Defined in LSTBravilUnderground.esp NPC 3C049D68 Name: Rannock Defined in LSTBravilUnderground.esp ----[ 2012-10-31 14:01:43] NPC 3C049D68 (Rannock) Respawns Race 0100311C Name: Lop-Chocolate Elf Defined in Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Non-Playable Class 000353E0 Name: Necromancer Defined in Oblivion.esm Hair 01003E1D Name: Ren's Hair 08 Defined in Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Eyes 01001608 Name: FairyEye01B Defined in Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm Could all this be because it's looking for Lop Chocolate Elf data? Not sure if I have that, or if it's like a combo of Chocolate Elf and the Lop-Ears ESPs. That's all I can think of. Besides, this is getting to be too much just for a couple minor NPCs I rarely even see anyway.
Sarnaath Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Could all this be because it's looking for Lop Chocolate Elf data? Not sure if I have that' date=' or if it's like a combo of Chocolate Elf and the Lop-Ears ESPs. That's all I can think of. Besides, this is getting to be too much just for a couple minor NPCs I rarely even see anyway. [/quote'] The Lop Chocolate Elf, Chocolate Elf, and Ren's Chocolate Elf races all use the same body textures in Beautiful People 2ch-ed.esm and Beautiful People 2ch-ed Chocolate Elves.esp The esm/esp just tells the game what textures to use, you still need the textures in the right folders. For the versions I have, the upper body, leg, hand, and foot textures for the chocolate elf females should be located in the Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\Chocolate\Female folder. I looked at the zip file gregathit provided and his texture file placement is different than what I have, so try this: copy the FootFemale and HandFemale .dds and _n.dds files (so, 4 files) currently in your Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\Chocolate folder to the Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\Chocolate\Female folder. The full body in many custom race textures is in the foot texture file. That needs to be in the right place. I'm not sure about the hand files, but it can't hurt to copy them too. I actually don't have any chocolate elf female textures in the Chocolate folder, just ears, face, and head. All the female textures I have are in the Chocolate\Female folder. The zip gregathit provided only has leg and upper body textures in that folder, so that's why I suggest copying them to the Female folder. If you actually have hand and foot files in the Chocolate\Female folder, overwrite them with gregathit's versions. I hope that helps. edit: I just checked the FootFemale.dds in GIMP and it has the full body and feet, but not the hands. The .esp/.esms I have look for both in the Female folder, so try copying both sets of files to that folder (each .dds texture has a _n.dds normal map that goes with it).
gregathit Posted October 31, 2012 Author Posted October 31, 2012 Could all this be because it's looking for Lop Chocolate Elf data? Not sure if I have that' date=' or if it's like a combo of Chocolate Elf and the Lop-Ears ESPs. That's all I can think of. Besides, this is getting to be too much just for a couple minor NPCs I rarely even see anyway. [/quote'] The Lop Chocolate Elf, Chocolate Elf, and Ren's Chocolate Elf races all use the same body textures in Beautiful People 2ch-ed.esm and Beautiful People 2ch-ed Chocolate Elves.esp The esm/esp just tells the game what textures to use, you still need the textures in the right folders. For the versions I have, the upper body, leg, hand, and foot textures for the chocolate elf females should be located in the Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\Chocolate\Female folder. I looked at the zip file gregathit provided and his texture file placement is different than what I have, so try this: copy the FootFemale and HandFemale .dds and _n.dds files (so, 4 files) currently in your Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\Chocolate folder to the Oblivion\Data\Textures\Characters\Chocolate\Female folder. The full body in many custom race textures is in the foot texture file. That needs to be in the right place. I'm not sure about the hand files, but it can't hurt to copy them too. I actually don't have any chocolate elf female textures in the Chocolate folder, just ears, face, and head. All the female textures I have are in the Chocolate\Female folder. The zip gregathit provided only has leg and upper body textures in that folder, so that's why I suggest copying them to the Female folder. If you actually have hand and foot files in the Chocolate\Female folder, overwrite them with gregathit's versions. I hope that helps. He already had those 4 files which is why I didn't include them. We discussed this in a previous post. I think his problem boils down to a mod conflict somehow or something funky with his bashed patch. He now has the same files I do but still can't make it work. This tells me it is files\folders can't be the issue anymore.
Damoriva Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Actually, just copying those files from the main Chocolate folder into the female folder worked! Didn't even need the clean save, although I bashed just to be sure. Now I can continue "working" on Rena. Mind wiped her, let's see if the thing triggers this time. ...Could it possibly have not worked the first time because I took one of the training dogs into the Breeder's Guild place so I could train 3 people at once?
gregathit Posted October 31, 2012 Author Posted October 31, 2012 Actually' date=' just copying those files from the main Chocolate folder into the female folder worked! Didn't even need the clean save, although I bashed just to be sure. Now I can continue "working" on Rena. Mind wiped her, let's see if the thing triggers this time. ...Could it possibly have not worked the first time because I took one of the training dogs into the Breeder's Guild place so I could train 3 people at once? [/quote'] Very strange on the file copying. Oh well, that you are working is the only thing that matters. Not a good idea to move the dogs. Stick to training NPC at a time. I don't know how robust the scripting is to know if it can handle all those calculations without F'ing up.
Damoriva Posted October 31, 2012 Posted October 31, 2012 Not a good idea to move the dogs. Stick to training NPC at a time. I don't know how robust the scripting is to know if it can handle all those calculations without F'ing up. Hmm. The other two worked. Well...actually one probably worked for ages, I just wasn't doing the trade right with Jack. Thought it was a quest topic, not the Slave Trade topic. But Lady Drad worked, it just took a little while.
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