Fps issues please help

[Wilhelm Li]

Here is my load order

Is there any mod have performance hit?

 

 0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     CreatureFramework.esm
 10  a     BeeingFemale.esm
 11  b     EFFCore.esm
 12  c     SGHairPackBase.esm
 13  d     Havok Breast Physic.esm
 14  e     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 15  f     VanillaReducedTextures.esp
 16 10     SkyUI.esp
 17 11     UIExtensions.esp
 18 12     FNIS.esp
 19 13     FNIS_PCEA2.esp
 20 14     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 21 15     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
 22 16     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
 23 17     Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
 24 18     Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
 25 19     EFFDialogue.esp
 26 1a     Leah Lilith Jewelry.esp
 27 1b     Additional Player Voices for Skyrim.esp
 28 1c     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 29 1d     BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp
 30 1e     BodyChange.esp
 31 1f     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 32 20     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 33 21     JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
 34 22     RaceMenu.esp
 35 23     StojaMakeupPack.esp
 36 24     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 37 25     SGHairPackAIO.esp
 38 26     KS Hairdo's.esp
 39 27     SexLabTools.esp
 40 28     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 41 29     SLAnimLoader.esp
 42 2a     MilkyObj.esp
 43 2b     SlaveTats.esp
 44 2c     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
 45 2d     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 46 2e     AnubAnimObj.esp
 47 2f     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 48 30     KomAnimScaler.esp
 49 31     KomAnimObjects.esp
 50 32     DogmaAnimSLAL.esp
 51 33     NCK30Obj.esp
 52 34     Cumshot.esp
 53 35     CumshotSL.esp
 54 36     Blush When Aroused.esp
 55 37     SLATE.esp
 56 38     SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
 57 39     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 58 3a     Holiday Gift Hairdos.esp
 59 3b     ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
 60 3c     CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
 61 3d     Immersive Weapons.esp
 62 3e     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 63 3f     Havok Breast Physic.esp
 64 40     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 65 41     Unique Uniques.esp
 66 42     TradeBarter.esp
 67 43     Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
 68 44     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 69 45     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 70 46     hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
 71 47     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 72 48     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
 73 49     iNeed.esp
 74 4a     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 75 4b     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 76 4c     Bijin AIO.esp
 77 4d     Seductress Serana.esp
 78 4e     SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp
 79 4f     Toccata as Elisif.esp
 80 50     Requiem.esp
 81 51     XPMSE.esp
 82 52     Fozars_Dragonborn_-_Requiem_Patch.esp
 83 53     Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp
 84 54     Requiem - Immersive College of Winterhold.esp
 85 55     Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp
 86 56     Requiem - Trade and Barter.esp
 87 57     Requiem - Unique Uniques.esp
 88 58     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 89 59     Requiem - Live Another Life.esp
 90 5a     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 91 5b     Requiem for the Indifferent.esp
 

[Grey Cloud]

All of them; some more so, some less so.

[Wilhelm Li]

thank you appreciate it

[RohZima]

What about texture replacers? Did you install any hi res replacers for the scenery? This is an issue with the FPS isn't it, not load times?

[Wilhelm Li]

2 minutes ago, RohZima said:

What about texture replacers? Did you install any hi res replacers for the scenery? This is an issue with the FPS isn't it, not load times?

I only use VanillaReducedTextures, I don't have any hi res replacers.

 

My load times is fine, just stuttering FPS in outdoors areas.

 

[Just Don't]

FPS outdoor is mainly dependant on your GPU power. Avoid texture replacers and flashy effects. Disable the in game v-sync and use the one from your GPU. Setup a good enblocal.ini and use ENBoost.

[scarebear2403]

8 hours ago, Wilhelm Li said:

I only use VanillaReducedTextures, I don't have any hi res replacers.

 

My load times is fine, just stuttering FPS in outdoors areas.

 

Are you using an ENB? If yes look in enblocal ini under memory for ReservedMemorySizeMb= and increase in increments of 128 until stuttering stops.

 

If you are not using an enb or at least enboost then do so. It should be considered a hard requirement for a modded game.

[RohZima]

Just follow one of the popular performance/stability guides that will explain about BethINI and enblocal and all that stuff if you don't know about it. you have to optimize the game for your system, it is far from optimized for modding straight out of the box.

[Grey Cloud]

13 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

Unelaborative,

As was the OP which was my point. Once the OP proffered some information he got several posts with useful advice.

Still it gave you the opportunity to tell us about yourself again. "Look world, I can MERGE mods".

 

13 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

mainly due to lack of personal experience

Care to elaborate?

 

13 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

lots of scripts

Which means nothing. The number of active scripts may be an issue but the number of scripts doing nothing?

 

 

[Grey Cloud]

10 hours ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said:

Disable the in game v-sync

Could you elaborate on this, please? Do you mean in enblocal.ini?

I have mine set to true in enblocal and AMD optimised in the driver settings (Freesynch with compatible monitor).

[Just Don't]

3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Could you elaborate on this, please? Do you mean in enblocal.ini?

 

There are several ways to enable vsync in Skyrim, so far the consensus seems to be the recommended one is through your GPU driver.

• Skyrim.ini has "iPresentInterval" (set to "0" to disable, under [Display]), I don't remember if enb presets ask you for this to be enabled or disabled, but if you setup the driver sync properly you should be okay with this disabled.
• enblocal.ini has another (EnableVSync=false to disable, under [ENGINE]). STEP mentions that in order for this to work (if set to "true") you also need "iPresentInterval=1". I'm not sure if this information is accurate tho, it's been a couple of months since I played Skyrim LE.
• And under AMD/Nvidia settings (control panel or the Profile Inspector) you can enable/disable vsync for certain applications. In addition to the defaul vsync, drivers offer different implementations, which are usually better than the basic one. We have G-sync if you have a compatible monitor + Nvidia, Freesync which I think it's the same but for AMD, or Fast Sync.

[Grey Cloud]

40 minutes ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said:

There are several ways to enable vsync in Skyrim, so far the consensus seems to be the recommended one is through your GPU driver.

• Skyrim.ini has "iPresentInterval" (set to "0" to disable, under [Display]), I don't remember if enb presets ask you for this to be enabled or disabled, but if you setup the driver sync properly you should be okay with this disabled.
• enblocal.ini has another (EnableVSync=false to disable, under [ENGINE]). STEP mentions that in order for this to work (if set to "enable") you also need "iPresentInterval=1". I'm not sure if this information is accurate tho, it's been a couple of months since I played Skyrim LE.
• And under AMD/Nvidia settings (control panel or the Profile Inspector) you can enable/disable vsync for certain applications. In addition to the defaul vsync, drivers offer different implementations, which are usually better than the basic one. We have G-sync if you have a compatible monitor + Nvidia, Freesync which I think it's the same but for AMD, or Fast Sync.

Thanks.

It's the S.T.E.P advice which is confusing me. It says to enable it in enblocal, (with iPresentInterval=1) but the AMD graphics driver settings are for the older Radeon Settings control panel which doesn't feature Freesynch. The new CP Freesynch options gives: AMD Optimised, On or Off.

AMD's website is pathetic for finding any useful info on anything. Most of the stuff I've found on the web is years old.

I might have a play around later.

[Grey Cloud]

Okay. A quick experiment. Whiterun Guard Barracks (the one behind the main gate)

My regular settings:

Freesynch Compatible monitor at 60Hz.

Full Screen.

 

ENBlocal.ini

Enable Vsynch=true

 

Skyrim.ini

iPresentInterval=1

 

AMD Radeon Settings

Freesynch AMD Optimised

 

 

iPresentInterval=0

 

iPresentInterval=0

Enable Vsynch=false

 

iPresentInterval=0

Enable Vsynch=false

AMD Freesynch set to ON

 

iPresentInterval=0

Enable Vsynch=false

AMD Freesynch set to Off

 

iPresentInterval=0

Enable Vsynch=true <----

AMD Freesynch set to Off

 

iPresentInterval=1 <---

Enable Vsynch=true

AMD Freesynch set to Off

 

Typically I get 12-15 FPS in interiors, 10 in exteriors. That is the constant whether I have only a basic game with with only few mods and no ENB or my current 350 mods game with ENB. No followers or 70 followers; no NPC adding mods or 24,000+ NPCs in my current set up. The game works absolutely fine.

 

As for this experiment, I didn't bother going outside and running around. I just changed the setting, loaded the game, took the screenshot and exited. Visually there was no noticable difference in the graphics, e.g. the detail on the armour etc.

 

So if anyone can explain what the hell is happening here, I would be very interested to hear it.

[Just Don't]

I wouldn't call that 0.1 FPS difference significant by any means, but you seem to get same results with different configurations. The most interesting ones, if we take that 0.1 FPS diff into account, is the irrelevance of iPresentInterval for the enb-vsync, I always used the recommended settings for the enb preset + my driver's Vsync. So I never bothered to test these combinations.

 

The default vsync will work well for most people, and it shouldn't impact performance (other than limiting fps to refresh rates). The thing is, with new GPUs and drivers, we have better alternatives which solve some issues present with the basic vsync. But I don't think you can get a better performance at that amount of FPS really.

• Vsync on= no tearing, may cause stuttering if FPS fluctuates too much (if refresh rate > FPS delivered by GPU).
• Vsync off= tearing (if refresh rate < FPS delivered by GPU
• Adaptative vsync= will avoid tearing and stutter, changing the refresh rate dinamically to match the FPS gotten from GPU.

 

If you don't go over your refresh rate ever, you won't get any benefits from having vsync enabled really.

[stingray1995]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

So if anyone can explain what the hell is happening here, I would be very interested to hear it.

Sure, I can tell you what's happening only from glancing at your settings:  even as long as you've been playing it, you still don't know how to properly configure your copy of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

 

Unsurprisingly, this suddenly became a topic where you need the most help fixing your game out of everyone else here, the OP included.

 

Let me give you a hint:  Any v-sync being handled via the ENB is total crap.  Though, stop thinking that you can forgo it - vertical sync must be enabled in that flimsy game one way or another, yours even more so, if you're to expect stability.

[GenioMaestro]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Okay. A quick experiment. Whiterun Guard Barracks (the one behind the main gate)

The only thing that make VSync (Vertical Syncronization) is limit the FPS (Frames Per Second) that the game or the video card can show in the screen. Each monitor have a pre-determined refresh rate in MHZ (MegaHerZ) that define how many times per second the image can be updated in the screen. Update the rendered image of the game over the refresh rate of the monitor is not convenient and can cause Stuttering and/or Tearing.

 

If your game not have a frame rate over the refresh rate of the monitor the VSync make absolutelly nothing because their work is exactly that, limit the frame rate of the game below the refresh rate of the monitor.

 

For make consistent test about VSync in your game you must disable ENB, put UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true inside enblocal.ini or press Shift+F12, lower the resolution of the game to 1920x1080 or below and remove some graphical mods to have a consistent framerate in your game, at least, over 60 FPS.

 

 

Aditionally, is not convenient play Skyrim below 30 FPS because the execution of the scripts are linked to the Frame Rate. As more FPS have the game more scripts are executed per second.

If you have SexLab and related mods, like Aroused, SOS, Creature, ... all that mods run scripts every x seconds.

If you play at 10-15 FPS you can have a big delay in the execution of the scripts.

 

Finally, i think you have changed your machine recently but you only have 10-15 FPS in Skyrim.

That is is very strange. Any new machine, with less than 1 year, must run the game, at least, at 60 FPS.

I strongly recomend you make some test with your game to determine if you have something missconfigured.

[Grey Cloud]

8 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Finally, i think you have changed your machine recently but you only have 10-15 FPS in Skyrim.

That is is very strange. Any new machine, with less than 1 year, must run the game, at least, at 60 FPS.

I strongly recomend you make some test with your game to determine if you have something missconfigured.

Yes the machine was only built last July. I am more or less convinced I have something incorrectly configured but what it is I haven't a clue.

I've tried changing all sorts of things back to default for example.

I've tried the game in windowed mode, borderless windowed etc. I tried dropping the screen resolution from the native 2560 x 1440 and that gave an increase in FPS (not dramatic) but made the on-screen text look like crap.

I've tried capped and uncapped FPS.

I tried it with just ENBoost when I first installed Skyrim on this machine.

Nothing I do seems to move the FPS more than 5 +/-

[GenioMaestro]

20 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Yes the machine was only built last July. I am more or less convinced I have something incorrectly configured but what it is I haven't a clue.

I've tried changing all sorts of things back to default for example.

I've tried the game in windowed mode, borderless windowed etc. I tried dropping the screen resolution from the native 2560 x 1440 and that gave an increase in FPS (not dramatic) but made the on-screen text look like crap.

I've tried capped and uncapped FPS.

I tried it with just ENBoost when I first installed Skyrim on this machine.

Nothing I do seems to move the FPS more than 5 +/-

 

Something not match. That is not normal. Download GPUz. Is a very small tool to monitor the video card.

Run GpuZ and let it open while you play the game to collect data. Close the game and look the charts.

Spoiler

 

Open the lower drop down and look the chart generated in each video card if you have more than one.

Maybe the game is ussing the integrated video card and not use the normal video card.

 

Look the GPU Load and Power Consumtion. If the values are low the video card are used only in half.

Revise the Power management options in the Control Panel of the video Card.

https://www.amd.com/es/support/kb/faq/dh-004

 

Have you test others games? Do you have 60 FPS in others games?

[Grey Cloud]

27 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Run GpuZ and let it open while you play the game to collect data.

I'll have a go with this and post back.

[Grey Cloud]

@GenioMaestro

For what it's worth. After a short time in Avanchenzel

[GenioMaestro]

7 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

@GenioMaestro

For what it's worth. After a short time in Avanchenzel

You have an AMD Ryzen and you are ussing the video card integrated inside the CPU for play the game.

Of course, you have very low FPS and the GPU ussage is constantly at 100%.

Click in the drop down in the lower left zone of GpuZ and look if you have another video card.

[Grey Cloud]

31 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

Click in the drop down in the lower left zone of GpuZ and look if you have another video card.

No, there isn't another graphics card listed.

[GenioMaestro]

26 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

No, there isn't another graphics card listed.

You must think in buy a dedicated video card. The radeon rx vega 11 is much more weak than my GTX 660.

https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-660-vs-Radeon-RX-Vega-11

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-660-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-11-Ryzen-iGPU/2162vsm401440

For have 30-60 FPS with the radeon rx vega 11 you must lower everything, resolution, ENB, textures, mesh...

 

EDIT: I think time ago you had a video card with 4 or 6 GB of Vram. Where is it?

[Grey Cloud]

11 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

I think time ago you had a video card with 4 or 6 GB of Vram. Where is it?

I've been thinking of putting my old 4GB card in to see if it helps. I'll see if I can do it later on.

[Grey Cloud]

14 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

EDIT: I think time ago you had a video card with 4 or 6 GB of Vram. Where is it?

It's now back in my machine ?

I'll tinker about with settings at a later date but that will do for now.

Thanks.