Nvidia settings not being applied to skyrim

[Annabelle P]

I use mod organizer just like most people but I have a problem. when I run skyrim through MO non of my settings from the nvidia control panel are being applied to skyrim. I've been looking for a fix or a work around for sooo long now. I would really appreciate any ideas.

[Dorabella]

Ignoring what you've tried so far:

 

1) Skyrim folder>SKSE Launcher>right click and send to desktop.

2) NVidiaControlPannel>3D settings management>Program settings> add> browse>and import Skse Launcher you have on your desktop>antialiasing Transparency, change the value

apply.

3)Launch Skyrim with Skse launcher icon you have on your desktop, and, if your NVidia card is enabled, you should see the management warning message (video recording, screenshots and more)

4)To access the management of the various NVidia options during the game> key LALT + X. the management panel will open

5)If you use ENB you may have to set Skyrim prefs.ini and ENB.ini files.

[27X]

maybe try a legal copy, it's a pretty good trick like spinning.

[Annabelle P]

45 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

Ignoring what you've tried so far:

 

1) Skyrim folder>SKSE Launcher>right click and send to desktop.

2) NVidiaControlPannel>3D settings management>Program settings> add> browse>and import Skse Launcher you have on your desktop>antialiasing Transparency, change the value

apply.

3)Launch Skyrim with Skse launcher icon you have on your desktop, and, if your NVidia card is enabled, you should see the management warning message (video recording, screenshots and more)

4)To access the management of the various NVidia options during the game> key LALT + X. the management panel will open

5)If you use ENB you may have to set Skyrim prefs.ini and ENB.ini files.

Yes that would definitely work. However i can't imagine playing skyrim without MO or some kind of mod manager. How will I keep mods in order so that they don't conflict with each other. 

 

38 minutes ago, 27X said:

maybe try a legal copy, it's a pretty good trick like spinning.

I bought my copy of the game, not sure how that would be the problem if that were the case anyway. Take your stupid comments somewhere else.

[Dorabella]

1 hour ago, Annabelle P said:

i can't imagine playing skyrim without MO

You don't have to give up mods, only use Skse launcher from desktop to start the game instead of starting it via MO. If the mods are loaded correctly, they still work

[Annabelle P]

On 1/2/2020 at 2:43 AM, Lestat1627 said:

You don't have to give up mods, only use Skse launcher from desktop to start the game instead of starting it via MO. If the mods are loaded correctly, they still work

So I would have to take my mods out of the MO mods folder and put them in the skyrim data folder right? 

[Grey Cloud]

16 minutes ago, Annabelle P said:

So I would have to take my mods out of the MO mods folder and put them in the skyrim data folder right? 

No, no and thrice no.

[Annabelle P]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

No, no and thrice no.

Awesome, but i'm having a hard time understanding how that actually works when it doesn't load the mods when I launch skse through the skyrim folder. Is it simply because I'm launching it from the desktop?

[Uncle64]

Did you start Skyrim from inside Steam 1 time first?

After that MO should import the settings.

[Grey Cloud]

8 hours ago, Annabelle P said:

Awesome, but i'm having a hard time understanding how that actually works when it doesn't load the mods when I launch skse through the skyrim folder. Is it simply because I'm launching it from the desktop?

Are you confusing the SKSE Loader with the Skyrim Launcher?

Assuming you have SKSE set up and installed correctly then the SKSE shortcut should point to skse_loader.exe

[Annabelle P]

 

5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Are you confusing the SKSE Loader with the Skyrim Launcher?

Assuming you have SKSE set up and installed correctly then the SKSE shortcut should point to skse_loader.exe

 Ok yeah that’s right. It’s that I have my mods in MO not the Skyrim data folder. When I run the skse shortcut the mods are not present because it’s using my Skyrim data folder. I’m asking if there is a way to make it run the mods from MO without launching the game through MO.

 

I ran skse through steam but I’m not seeing any kind of indication that MO is doing anything. Do I have to run MO while I launch it through steam or something?

 

[Grey Cloud]

I don't use MO so I can't give any advice there.

I have a shortcut to skse_loader on my desktop which I use to launch the game. The loader itself is in the game folder (not the Data folder). This launches the game with all my mods as handled by NMM and in the order as sorted by LOOT.

MO should do something similar.

 

To go back to your original problem - which settings are not being dealt with by Nvidia? (I don't use Nvidia either ? )

[Annabelle P]

I just can’t apply my high performance settings to the game. Skyrim is running with my default settings.

 

Ive looked at tutorials about NMM just applying the mods after you launch skse through steam but I don’t understand how it’s doing that. I’ve downloaded it to try it out but it has the same problem as MO. It’s using the plugins from my data folder only. How do I direct it to my mod folder?

 

I know I’m doing something wrong but don’t know exactly what it is.

[Grey Cloud]

4 minutes ago, Annabelle P said:

I just can’t apply my high performance settings to the game. Skyrim is running with my default settings.

 

Ive looked at tutorials about NMM just applying the mods after you launch skse through steam but I don’t understand how it’s doing that. I’ve downloaded it to try it out but it has the same problem as MO. It’s using the plugins from my data folder only. How do I direct it to my mod folder?

 

I know I’m doing something wrong but don’t know exactly what it is.

Well the first thing you are doing wrong is changing mod managers. I used my situation as an aid to your understanding, not as a sales pitch for NMM.

In any case, I doubt whether choice of mod manager has anything to do with what Nvidia control panel does or does not do.

 

Next, you need to be more specific about which settings you are talking about. 'high performance settings' tells me nothing.

[Just Don't]

New to MO?

1. You must install all mods and tools through MO. Tools like Bodyslide and FNIS must be run through MO as well. SKSE is no exception here, you must run SKSE through MO to start the game.
2. MO only handles the mod files using the virtual folder system. This applies only to files under "Skyrim\Data\". So the original game and launcher executables are untouched, the skyrim.exe is executed after the virtual folder system injects all the mod files so the game can access these mod files.
3. This means that for all effects, when you start the game using MO, you're running the original "skyrim.exe" so your system should act accordingly.

Now, which settings are you talking about? As Grey Cloud says, you're not being very descriptive.

 

[Annabelle P]

Spoiler

 

 

These are the settings I am trying to apply. I tried NMM before I made this post and couldn't get it to work. I deleted it after that. I am able to run skyrim with the graphics at max decently but not as well as I could if I had these settings applied. 

 

Spoiler

1 hour ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said:

 

1. MO only handles the mod files using the virtual folder system. This applies only to files under "Skyrim\Data\". So the original game and launcher executables are untouched, the skyrim.exe is executed after the virtual folder system injects all the mod files so the game can access these mod files.

Now, which settings are you talking about? As Grey Cloud says, you're not being very descriptive.

 

 

I've never heard of the virtual folder system until now. When i go into MO folder, i see the mods folder with all the mods in it.  Don't see a virtual folder anywhere, however I do remember seeing it after i uninstalled NMM. Do the mods need to go in there instead so that I can launch skse through steam and have the mods loaded.

[Grey Cloud]

14 minutes ago, Annabelle P said:

When i go into MO folder, i see the mods folder with all the mods in it. 

That will be the virtual folder. If you are now back with MO and your game is working then forget about mod managers, mods and SKSE.

 

How do you know that the graphic settings are not working? For example you have Anisotropic filtering and Antialiasing - Mode set to 'Application-controlled' so Skyrim should be handling both of them.

Do you understand what those settings actually do and if you should change them?

 

 

[Just Don't]

1 hour ago, Annabelle P said:

I've never heard of the virtual folder system until now. When i go into MO folder, i see the mods folder with all the mods in it.  Don't see a virtual folder anywhere, however I do remember seeing it after i uninstalled NMM. Do the mods need to go in there instead so that I can launch skse through steam and have the mods loaded.

Yes, you see the mods folder, outside of the actual Skyrim\Data\ folder. So the files from Modorganizer\mods\ are magically loaded into your game when you start skse through MO. That's the virtual folder system, you don't have to "see it" and last time I checked, NMM has nothing to do with a virtual folder system. And yes, the mods must be installed using MO, so they go in Modorganizer\mods and no, you cannot start the game through Steam, you must launch it through MO.

 

About the settings you mention, are you 100% sure these settings are not being used already? What are you noticing to say the settings are not being applied?

[Annabelle P]

Spoiler

4 hours ago, dontknowdontcaredontask said:

About the settings you mention, are you 100% sure these settings are not being used already? What are you noticing to say the settings are not being applied?

 

5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

How do you know that the graphic settings are not working? For example you have Anisotropic filtering and Antialiasing - Mode set to 'Application-controlled' so Skyrim should be handling both of them.

Do you understand what those settings actually do and if you should change them?

 

 

The way i was able to tell is because I tested running skyrim with and without MO a year ago. The frame rate decreased when I was on Skyrim with MO. I had the same ENB installed and everything. I gave up on the problem back then but I am doing a project where I would really like to have a better Frame rate. 

 

I also don't know what half of those settings mean but I do know that if the frame rate drops about 15 to 20 then something is wrong.

[Just Don't]

So running the game with and without MO, a year ago. That's your measure. Ok. Did you had the same setup of mods with and without MO? (because again, installing all your mods with MO and running the game without MO will let you with no mods when you open the game). Did you check if the ini files in your documents\My games\Skyrim were the same as the ones in the Modorganizer\profiles? (with the proper settings to use ENB and other edits).

 

 

[Annabelle P]

No I didn't, I really doubt that is the case though. back then I had about 225+ mods. I tested them with the same mods. it was all in the same day. Now I have less and I recently cleaned up my list to make sure that I get a better frame rate. Other people have had this same problem but I couldn't find a solution on any of them.

 

Spoiler

https://forum.step-project.com/topic/6956-nvidia-inspector-settings-are-not-enabled-via-mod-organizer/

 

This is the closest I was able to get.

 

It looks like he was able to make it work but I have no idea what he is saying he did to make it work.

[Just Don't]

12 minutes ago, Annabelle P said:

No I didn't, I really doubt that is the case though.

Seriously? not having the same mods and ini settings has nothing to do with performance differences, it must be that baddy MO that is blocking the nvidia settings, uh?

 

That post you link is from 2015, back then MO (MO1, the original one, not the updated MO2) had a setting to be closed automatically once the game was launched, the dude in that post thinks he solved the issue by disabling that setting. In MO2 you can't disable that setting because the default behavior is to not close MO once the game starts. So, issue solved? Not really, because I doubt that has any influence in the driver settings, at all. I'd like to see more cases of this problem.

 

Most likely you have different settings in your ini files which may or may not overwrite the driver's settings as you are letting a lot of "application controlled" in your nvidia settings.

[Annabelle P]

Oh... well that explains it. Ugh... its really frustrating. 

 

I will look at my ini settings and look for differences. I'll make them the same if they aren't. It's a pity this is how it has to be. I have no problems with all of my other modded games. 

 

here are some more cases....

 

Spoiler

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/938347-no-nvidia-control-panel-settings-being-applied-with-sksemod-organizer/

 

here's another

 

https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/357285562477343280/

 

[Just Don't]

1st link is just what I told you, 2nd one has zero follow up information but it could totally be  the same issue with the ini files.

 

MO uses a different set of ini files. If you've already modified the deault ones (in Documents/My games/Skyrim) then you can simply copy the skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini to "Mod Organizer 2\profiles\Default" and replace the ones from MO. Note that "Default" could be a different folder if you named your MO profile.