qwerq`` Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 I'm having problem with constant CTD in loading screen when I'm entering inns, mainly in but not limited to bannered mare, bee and barb, and drunken huntsmen. i used to be able to enter drunken huntsmen but became impossible as the game progressing. I've tried crash fixes, safety load, also did research regarding the problem but no avail. Here is my load order and Papyrus0 : 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 JSwords.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 Heels Sound.esm 10 a hdtHighHeel.esm 11 b RaceCompatibility.esm 12 c RSkyrimChildren.esm 13 d SexLab.esm 14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm 15 f SexLabAroused.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 17 11 CreatureFramework.esm 18 12 battlenymphs.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 daymoyl.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 22 16 DeviousFramework.esm 23 17 Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 24 18 HighResTexturePack01.esp 25 19 HighResTexturePack02.esp 26 1a HighResTexturePack03.esp 27 1b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 28 1c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 29 1d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 30 1e SkyUI.esp 31 1f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 32 20 Civil War Aftermath.esp 33 21 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 34 22 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 35 23 zThingsInDark.esp 36 24 OwnCivilWar.esp 37 25 Immersive Weapons.esp 38 26 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 39 27 MoreNastyCritters.esp 40 28 DragonsKeep.esp 41 29 SilianManor.esp 42 2a SMIM-Merged-All.esp 43 2b Cloaks.esp 44 2c ShadowstarCastle.esp 45 2d Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 46 2e MoonstoneCastle.esp 47 2f SimpleSlavery.esp 48 30 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp 49 31 DragonsKeep-RSChildrenPatch.esp 50 32 RiverwoodKeep.esp 51 33 Bijin AIO.esp 52 34 SOS - Shop.esp 53 35 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 54 36 KhajiitChildren.esp 55 37 SexLab Approach.esp 56 38 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 57 39 Convenient Horses.esp 58 3a Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp 59 3b Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp 60 3c Toccata as Elisif.esp 61 3d UIExtensions.esp 62 3e RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 63 3f RaceMenu.esp 64 40 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 65 41 FNIS.esp 66 42 R18pn - lingerie Set.esp 67 43 FNISspells.esp 68 44 FNISSexyMove.esp 69 45 DeadlyMutilation.esp 70 46 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 71 47 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 72 48 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 73 49 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 74 4a RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 75 4b ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp 76 4c Brows.esp 77 4d Better Females - Eyebrows.esp 78 4e Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 79 4f Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 80 50 KS Hairdo's.esp 81 51 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 82 52 SGEyebrows.esp 83 53 RSChildren.esp 84 54 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 85 55 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 86 56 Babette.esp 87 57 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 88 58 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 89 59 HelmetToggle.esp 90 5a SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 91 5b Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 92 5c UnreadBooksGlow.esp 93 5d LeftHandRings.esp 94 5e LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 95 5f Bijin Warmaidens.esp 96 60 Serana.esp 97 61 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp 98 62 Valerica.esp 99 63 Aela.esp 100 64 Bijin NPCs.esp 101 65 Bijin Wives.esp 102 66 schltz's character.esp 103 67 Luxury Collection.esp 104 68 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 105 69 1nivWICCloaks.esp 106 6a 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 107 6b CharmingHighHeels.esp 108 6c Northgirl.esp 109 6d TrissArmorRetextured.esp 110 6e LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp 111 6f HoodsAndCirclets.esp 112 70 ChaPi.esp 113 71 ChaPi JC.esp 114 72 Latex Witch - Nokou.esp 115 73 Cassandra Frost Witch.esp 116 74 Sofie, Lusia and others.esp 117 75 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 118 76 Toccata.esp 119 77 Elisabeth.esp 120 78 RiverwoodKeepUSLEEP.esp 121 79 Merta Assassin Armor.esp 122 7a HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 123 7b chargenexport.esp 124 7c Celes Nightingale Armor.esp 125 7d Tembtra Thief Armor.esp 126 7e Avelyn Follower.esp 127 7f My_Little_hatchling.esp 128 80 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 129 81 Bella Follower.esp 130 82 Agatha Follower.esp 131 83 Yeriel Follower.esp 132 84 FacelightPlus.esp 133 85 zzArmormashups.esp 134 86 Skyrim Ladies - Astrid.esp 135 87 CiriOutfit.esp 136 88 Dark Triss Armour.esp 137 89 SimpleOutfitManager.esp 138 8a Males of Skyrim.esp 139 8b Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp 140 8c SexLabTools.esp 141 8d DfwSupport.esp 142 8e SexLab Attraction.esm 143 8f Devious Devices - Equip.esp 144 90 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 145 91 SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 146 92 SexLabDefeat.esp 147 93 SSLToys.esp 148 94 SLAnimLoader.esp 149 95 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp 150 96 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 151 97 SLALAnimObj.esp 152 98 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 153 99 zzEstrus.esp 154 9a EstrusChaurus.esp 155 9b JSwords_Load_Screens.esp 156 9c XPMSE.esp 157 9d SOSRaceMenu.esp 158 9e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 159 9f Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp Papyrus.0.log
Wolfram.. Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Have you tried to get in by using console?? All i can think of is that maybe you added a mod that alters the interior of buildings... Try in console: coc whiterunbanneredmare and see what happens..
Seijin8 Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Can you enter the inn on a new game? What mod manager are you using?
qwerq`` Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 Quote Have you tried to get in by using console?? All i can think of is that maybe you added a mod that alters the interior of buildings... Try in console: coc whiterunbanneredmare and see what happens.. yes I have. I still got CTD when using coc command to bannered mare. i suspect it's caused by follower mods, however i can't figure which mods and how to fix it
qwerq`` Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 Quote Can you enter the inn on a new game? What mod manager are you using? I'm using Nexus mod organizer. in a fresh new game i can enter drunken huntsmen and Bee and barb in 1 out of 3 attempt, bannered mare is completely impposible to enter even with COC console command
Wolfram.. Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 And this are the inns... Not caves ,mines and such places?? By the way.. the load order looks a bit strange ,that's possibly because of the mod organizer. Have many of the same mods as you ,but they are sorted differently... And slab. defeat i had to remove because of c2d's. Also if i saved the game ,using a Chapi armor ,i never got that save worki'n...hmmmm..disable/remove JSwords_Load_Screens.esp ??
qwerq`` Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, Wolfram64 said: And this are the inns... Not caves ,mines and such places?? yes. but sometimes I get CTD when trying to enter jorrvaskr. i need to try 3 or 4 times.
Psalam Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 4 hours ago, qwerq`` said: yes I have. I still got CTD when using coc command to bannered mare. i suspect it's caused by follower mods, however i can't figure which mods and how to fix it You are probably right. CTD in the same location is almost always a problem with a bad mesh or texture. Since you know the likely cause you have two possible approaches. If this was my problem I would likely eliminate ALL the follower mods and see if this fixed the problem If it did (and I expect that it would) I would then add them back one at a time and see which one caused the problem to recur. Your other choice would be to go to each of the follower mods and see if this has been an issue for anyone else. This approach is more time consuming and that's why I recommend it second.
Wolfram.. Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Psalam said: You are probably right. CTD in the same location is almost always a problem with a bad mesh or texture. Since you know the likely cause you have two possible approaches. If this was my problem I would likely eliminate ALL the follower mods and see if this fixed the problem If it did (and I expect that it would) I would then add them back one at a time and see which one caused the problem to recur. Your other choice would be to go to each of the follower mods and see if this has been an issue for anyone else. This approach is more time consuming and that's why I recommend it second. Have to agree here.. After 4000+ hours in Skyrim ,iv'e often seen that a texture that is a small bit out of order leads to crash every time it is to be loaded.. had a crash in a specific place where i had put some paintings... and one of the paintings was 1024x768 instead of 1024x512..every time i came there... BAM desktop.
Grey Cloud Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 It could just be that there are too many NPCs in those locations and his badly configured game cannot cope.
GenioMaestro Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 7 hours ago, qwerq`` said: I'm having problem with constant CTD in loading screen when I'm entering inns, mainly in but not limited to bannered mare, bee and barb, and drunken huntsmen. i used to be able to enter drunken huntsmen but became impossible as the game progressing. I've tried crash fixes, safety load, also did research regarding the problem but no avail. Do you have the Stability Tools? SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB with Boost mode BethIni The CTD when try enter inn's or some cities can be caused by the bound girls that DCUR put inside it. Open the MCM of Cursed Loot, go to Miscelaneous Options, go down to the last option and put cero: Spoiler If that solve yours CTD probably you have a problem in HDT or you had not run bodyslide for the DCUR items. Verify the instalation of HDT Physics Extensions and make a batch build with Morps enabled in bodyslide. Use add item menu for get DCUR items, specially items with chains, to test it over your character. But as i know, DCUR not add bound girls inside Jorrvaskr, then your CTD when enter Jorrvaskr must be caused by a memory problem, install the stability tools.
qwerq`` Posted January 1, 2020 Author Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/29/2019 at 10:36 PM, GenioMaestro said: Do you have the Stability Tools? SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB with Boost mode BethIni The CTD when try enter inn's or some cities can be caused by the bound girls that DCUR put inside it. Open the MCM of Cursed Loot, go to Miscelaneous Options, go down to the last option and put cero: Hide contents If that solve yours CTD probably you have a problem in HDT or you had not run bodyslide for the DCUR items. Verify the instalation of HDT Physics Extensions and make a batch build with Morps enabled in bodyslide. Use add item menu for get DCUR items, specially items with chains, to test it over your character. But as i know, DCUR not add bound girls inside Jorrvaskr, then your CTD when enter Jorrvaskr must be caused by a memory problem, install the stability tools. I have those tools you mentioned except bethlini DCUR is my main suspect and I did eliminate bound girls to 0 when I started the game. (was thinking to eliminate dominant follower but seemed like they dont have that option) however i've tried to uninstall it but the CTD still occured. i have HDT physics extensions and do the batch build too.
qwerq`` Posted January 1, 2020 Author Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/29/2019 at 8:27 PM, Psalam said: You are probably right. CTD in the same location is almost always a problem with a bad mesh or texture. Since you know the likely cause you have two possible approaches. If this was my problem I would likely eliminate ALL the follower mods and see if this fixed the problem If it did (and I expect that it would) I would then add them back one at a time and see which one caused the problem to recur. Your other choice would be to go to each of the follower mods and see if this has been an issue for anyone else. This approach is more time consuming and that's why I recommend it second. thank you for your suggestions. however i don't really fancy the brute force solution since i can't really pinpoint the problem. but you were right. I get this warning in LOOT but can't solve the warning because i can't/don't understand manual cleaning in TESedit Quote
Grey Cloud Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, qwerq`` said: thank you for your suggestions. however i don't really fancy the brute force solution since i can't really pinpoint the problem. but you were right. I get this warning in LOOT but can't solve the warning because i can't/don't understand manual cleaning in TESedit The GDO cleaning is unlikely to be the cause of your problems. The latest versions of TESVEdit have an auto cleaning feature if you wish to clean things.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 9 hours ago, qwerq`` said: thank you for your suggestions. however i don't really fancy the brute force solution since i can't really pinpoint the problem. but you were right. I get this warning in LOOT but can't solve the warning because i can't/don't understand manual cleaning in TESedit
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