fejeena Posted December 5, 2019 Posted December 5, 2019 No Slave: the token from LST xLSTInviolableToken "[Inviolable]Actor" [CLOT:02022DC8] A NPC with this token in inventory can not be a LST slave ( enslave spell/script does not work), Think he/she can also be no trainer or buy slaves... but I never tested it. Spoiler The Lovers with PK token: xLoversPkrFlagSlave "Lovers Slave" [CLOT:0100080D] The LST Token: xLSTInviolableToken "[Inviolable]Actor" [CLOT:02022DC8] You need a running Quest ( Start game enabled ) with a script .............................................................................................. ScriptName MateWithTheGodsScript short YourModhasLST ref YourModNoLSTSlaveToken short YourModhasLovers ref YourModNoLoSlaveToken BEGIN GameMode if GetGameLoaded Set YourModhasLST to 0 Set YourModhasLover to 0 if YourModhasLST == 0 if (IsModLoaded "LoversSlaveTrader.esp") Set YourModNoLSTSlaveToken to GetFormFromMod "LoversSlaveTrader.esp" 022DC8 endif ;;; ;;;;;;;;;Now add the No-Slave-token to Mephala if she has none . If MephalaRef.GetItemCount YourModNoLSTSlaveToken == 0 MephalaRef.addItem YourModNoLSTSlaveToken 1 endif Set YourModhasLST to 1 endif If YourModHasLovers == 0 if (IsModLoaded "Lovers with PK.esm") Set YourModNoLoSlaveToken to GetFormFromMod "Lovers with PK.esm" 00080D Set YourModHasLovers to 1 endif endif endif ;;; end of " if GetGameLoaded " ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Now the game mode starts. To remove a Lovers Slave token if she get one by a Mod (e.g. Lovers Rape Slave) you can add If YourModHasLovers == 1 && MephalaRef.GetItemCount YourModNoLoSlaveToken >= 1 MephalaRef.RemoveItem YourModNoLoSlaveToken 1 endif ;;; other script entries End ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not sure if it is necessary? If a player does not have Lovers with PK.esm the Ref is 0 / not set I sometimes have problems that Scripts does not run, or run right if there is no Quest stage. If you need the quest just for dialogs and the token , I would add a stage Spoiler ScriptName MateWithTheGodsScript short YourModhasLST ref YourModNoLSTSlaveToken short YourModhasLovers ref YourModNoLoSlaveToken BEGIN GameMode if GetGameLoaded If MateWithTheGodsQuest < 10 Setstage MateWithTheGodsQuest 10 endif Set YourModhasLST to 0 Set YourModhasLover to 0 if YourModhasLST == 0 if (IsModLoaded "LoversSlaveTrader.esp") Set YourModNoLSTSlaveToken to GetFormFromMod "LoversSlaveTrader.esp" 022DC8 endif ;;; ;;;;;;;;;Now add the No-Slave-token to Mephala if she has none . If MephalaRef.GetItemCount YourModNoLSTSlaveToken == 0 MephalaRef.addItem YourModNoLSTSlaveToken 1 endif Set YourModhasLST to 1 endif If YourModHasLovers == 0 if (IsModLoaded "Lovers with PK.esm") Set YourModNoLoSlaveToken to GetFormFromMod "Lovers with PK.esm" 00080D Set YourModHasLovers to 1 endif endif endif ;;; end of " if GetGameLoaded " ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Now the game mode starts. To remove a Lovers Slave token if she get one by a Mod (e.g. Lovers Rape Slave) you can add If GetStage MateWithTheGodsQuest >= 10 && YourModHasLovers == 1 &&MephalaRef.GetItemCount YourModNoLoSlaveToken >= 1 MephalaRef.RemoveItem YourModNoLoSlaveToken 1 endif ;;; other script entries End ___________________________________________________ With the first Quest stage at game start you can also tell the player that there are Gods. Quest Entry: This morning I found a book in my inventory, I'm sure it's not mine ( Did I steal it unwittingly? ) It is a book about the Gods. Or I heard that some gods appeared again on earth(Nirn) . XYZ in Bravil talks about them, maybe I should talk to him. ... Then you can add dialogs that does not start with a greeting. When you talk to XYZ you get the Dialog option. "You know about the Daedra Gods?" if GetGameLoaded If MateWithTheGodsQuest < 10 addTopic AAAAA addtopic BBBBBB Setstage MateWithTheGodsQuest 10 endif
tolerance Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 don't use the slave type stuff, but what if trying to rape or enslave a daedric price made them rape or enslave you.
LongDukDong Posted December 6, 2019 Author Posted December 6, 2019 I think I have pretty reliable 'No-Enslaving' code. Of course, there is a Startup quest system that tests and loads LST. It also tests/loads Tamago for certain options, Lovers Genderbender so its effect is cancelled, etc. I cannot say for LoversRaperS. There's a flag called 'xLoversRaperSNoRapeV' within that says "Cannot be raped', but I fear that it only works on behalf of the player. BUT... I'll test it when I remember to do so. And then there's 'LoversRapeSlave' where raping a target could turn them INTO a slave... There's no Inviolable flag in that mod. In general, I'm working to make the character 'invulnerable' to basic LAPF slavery/altering options while it is not dependent on the mods. If this is found at Nexus mods, the code could be left intact and ... it might end up in a real wicked mod (untouched). 2 hours ago, tolerance said: don't use the slave type stuff, but what if trying to rape or enslave a daedric price made them rape or enslave you. Ouch! Poetic Justice! Well, that would be complicated, and I'm limiting code to graphic-related content. LOVE the idea though. And it would fit Mephala's personality... mebby. Now I say graphics related. I mentioned that I have 'body' clothing. Using techniques I studied from different mods, I'm making sure that Mephala has the same E-cub hot body, even if the end-user sets the NPC to be male. You can see (above) that it works. But ... and this will kill ya... WHAT if Mephala gets knocked up? Well... I have it set up to use.... Hermaphrodite/Dick-Girl Pregnant Meshes. Yeah, she will have a dick if/when pregnant unlike the traditional Tamago Setbody system. It works! And so simple too! But requires extra resources.... of course. I haven't worked on any dialog content since the initial (and singular) Greeting. Generally, the greeting topic also covers Crimes of "Being a Vampire (starts combat)", "Being the Gray Fox (hostile)," "Trespassing (it's her house, right?)", and general greets (happy, indifferent, annoyed). If anyone has suggestions for Mephala's (OR ANY DAEDRA LORD'S) greeting dialog, feel free to supply it. AA-cup upper and 'lower body 1st trimester icons Yeah, I'm making sure I got resources for most any body style..
fejeena Posted December 6, 2019 Posted December 6, 2019 LoversRape slave I showed you in my script above. (in the spoiler) LoversRape slave add the Lovers-with-PK slave token and you remove it (the same token is used by LST when the slave is broken ) -------------------------------- Mephala greetings? Why is she so mean? Trespassing ? She has a house in Nirn? ( in her realm ok ) But why do she does not like the gray fox? ( And what about the Gay Fox? ) My PC has <50 fame and > 100 infamy ( enslave or break slave is +1 infamy. I do not care if other NPCs see me ) Some bandits do not attack me anymore. Why does Mephala care if she is fucked by a "bad" or a "good" cock? --------------------------------- And another questions. Why you do it so complicated. You prefer the female Mephala. Why isn't she ONLY female. She will not come to Tamriel and change her gender. She can appear in different forms and Genders, but she will not do it when she is in Nirn. Maybe the next time she visits Nirn (100 years later) she will have another gender. But in the short time you play the game ( 1 or 2 maybe 3 years) you will see Mephala with same body and gender. ( Maybe if she appears in another continent she do it with different appearance and gender ) The same with all other Gods, create them the way you like them best. This is how the gods look in the short time the player "lives" . Why pack everything in the mod what is written somewhere, how the gods have looked in the last millennia? It's your Mod, and you do a Mod for yourself , NEVER for other people, that would kills all motivation to work on the mod. ( Unless you are a LIKE junkie, or create mods for money )
LongDukDong Posted December 6, 2019 Author Posted December 6, 2019 I can't make money on this? Of course not! This is a work of Love. Besides, you forget about that discussion about Bethesda's EULA.. no money for making these mods. And if you're worried about having to download multiple individual Daedra mods or a single Mod with them all, I'm going for BOTH. Even having a Dunmer Sisters pack (Azura, Mephala, Boethia). Oh, Rape SLAVE was up there. as well Ahh... nope. It isn't. I was talking about a flag making one immune from the effect of RapeSlave. Your option handles the removal of a LAPF slave token that was garnered by any script like RapeSlave. That's easy enough to test and remove. But it doesn't block RapeSlave's effect or suggests how to actively block/prevent rape by way of LoversRaperS. I've mentioned that I may tackle cleanup of LoversRaperS, and may introduce such a feature to protect individual NPCs... later. 13 hours ago, fejeena said: Mephala greetings? Why is she so mean? Trespassing ? She has a house in Nirn? ( in her realm ok ) But why do she does not like the gray fox? ( And what about the Gay Fox? ) Well, I suggested THREE general greetings depending upon disposition. And if you're a Dunmer, she's not mean at all. Well, yeah. If you intrude on her in the bathroom... she might get pissed. Daedra may vie for power, but she may be more favorable to Nocturnal, and the Cowl is Nocturnal's, not his. She may try and get it back? As to the Gay Fox? The addition for Lovers Genderbender applies a Bi-sexual flag to her... so if you make suitable dialog........... She will be totally in HEAT for Bravil Underground's Wild Hunt. Mephala, according to the lore, is hermaphrodite. He/She has both genders simultaneously. So he/she has boobs, pussy, balls and dick in one single package. I love what I did with him/her visually, but this is why he/she is not going to be 'Only' female. For those tuning in, you can see references to this below: https://www.imperial-library.info/content/mephala https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Mephala (Okay, tired of combined gender pronouns... ) I already noted earlier that Azura takes both her male and female worshipers as lovers, thus indicating she chooses to assume whatever gender she wishes at any time, so too can Mephala or any Daedra. This cannot be a feature limited to Azura alone. And this would nullify your suggestion that Daedra are fixed to appear as they are in the player's lifetime. And as towards gender, it was mentioned in 2007 that that just because Sheogorath always appears male doesn't mean he actually is male. Quote Technically, none of the Daedra Princes have gender as we know it. Most of them appear to us as one gender or another, but that is by choice on their part. Just because Sheogorath always appears male and Azura always appears female doesn't mean they actually ARE male or female. Mephala happens to be one of those who has appeared as both genders. The proper term would be "genderless". Mephala is not a hermaphrodite, which implies both genders, but is rather neither gender, and just chooses one or the other for appearance for reasons unknown to mortals. Oh, it should also be noted that Daedra are not "demonic entities", nor can they "shape-shift". They are non-corporeal beings which can appear in any form they choose, which is not at all the same thing as shape-shifting. --TheRealLurlock Talk 10:16, 8 November 2007 (EST) Wow.... Mephala IS hawt... On 11/17/2019 at 12:33 AM, LongDukDong said: Ya know? She's pretty fuckin' hot! Oh, yeah... forgot. She has extra plumbing. The discussion and content I so noted, and the artwork supplied, is the basis for this version's design. You forget that he/she doesn't need to change gender as he/she opts for both simultaneously. The Mephala mod enforces this physical duality, whether the user sets the NPC to male or female. This gender option for the user's part is to be put into all the Daedra since it has been noted in various sources that each can assume any gender whenever they wish, and this is to be left for the end-user/game-developer whoever he, she (or it) may be. "This is simply the truth." - Salem (RWBY Volume 6) And I seriously need to thank tolerance for that great Tiara... though I did have to tone down the texture to match the rest of the armor's color scheme... much darker red and charcoal gray/black. And that ruby... Wow, I had to seriously de-sparkle. Now ... I guess I'll work on the Dialog.
fejeena Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 Rape slave does not do anything. It only checks if the sex is rape (LoversRapers, Joburg, or sex started by a Mod but set as rape . With LoverRapeSlave you can not rape a NPC, there is no spell or Dialog that starts rape or sex ) If the NPC was raped X times (set in the ini) a Lovers slave token is added and the NPC say ONE time something like " Please no more ... I do everything you want ..." That's all. ( no AI Packs or other dialogs ) So you want a No-Rape funktion. There you only have "Lovers Rapers Can not be raped Token" but it does not work with Joburg or spells and dialogs from Other Mods (If someone have created such Mod. Does Mods like Daedra trap, Daedra seed , Furo Trap affect NPCs? Then you also have to block such mods ) -------------------------- Genderbend. All I want to say is that you should create the gods as you like and not 10 esp and addons for all possible genders and appearances they could possibly have. You can only see and use one in game. If Mephala really does appear sexless, then "it" should have a body without any sexual characteristics. ! So your Mephala is wrong !
LongDukDong Posted December 7, 2019 Author Posted December 7, 2019 9 hours ago, fejeena said: So you want a No-Rape funktion. There you only have "Lovers Rapers Can not be raped Token" but it does not work with Joburg or spells and dialogs from Other Mods (If someone have created such Mod. Does Mods like Daedra trap, Daedra seed , Furo Trap affect NPCs? Then you also have to block such mods ) Well, I already 'lightly' begun working on a re-work of LoversRaperS. a mod that most would surely use. In that, I just translated the only non-English text in the scripts. Japanese, to be sure, but Croation? Slovenian? And I kinda have an add-on that does properly and fully detects penile attachments for women, so it can have more distinguished descriptions to match. This does not imply changing of the 'LoversVoice' mod (mebby later? ). But it does have some inner-working dialog that may be put within an outside INI file. I've gotten better at that. 9 hours ago, fejeena said: All I want to say is that you should create the gods as you like and not 10 esp and addons for all possible genders and appearances they could possibly have. Oh, noooo.... I'm creating ONE esp for Mephala with ALL these options built within. It's detecting each and every mod being considered, loading any crucial flags for detection, functions from their scripts as needed, and executing them as desired... BY AN OUTSIDE CONFIG! Yeah, if you wish to block LST, just configure it in the INI file. If you wanna block LGB, configure that too. The CONFIG will be global for all Daedra Lords. The appearances for the Daedra Lords, as you've seen, is based on current (or as close to current) depictions. Genders? Well, that's been shown as 'their' choice at the time. As towards 10 ESPs? Well ... how many Daedra Lords are there? SCARED YOU!!! Sure, I am making one for each. But again, I will also have a Daedra Lord complete ESP with them all in one set. OR mixed sets like having Hermaeus Mora and Pyrite in one set, Boethia, Azura and Mephala in another, and so on. Variations depending on what's desired.... not that someone couldn't just RIP the NPCs and code from the mods themselves. 9 hours ago, fejeena said: If Mephala really does appear sexless, then "it" should have a body without any sexual characteristics. ! So your Mephala is wrong ! "Like all Daedric Princes, Mephala possesses no fixed gender.[2] Unlike other princes however, she is called the "Androgyne" and as such is often perceived as having both male and female characteristics.[6] In the Elder Scrolls games Mephala's sex is not obvious during game-play, though superficially speaking Mephala seems more womanlike in contrast to Vivec, a being associated with Mephala but who seems more manlike...." - Elderscrolls.Fandom.Com And other lore points out that the statues and depictions usually give both her 'male and female attributes' an exaggerated increase in size. POINT! First page now sports.... the Mephala Package, a spoiler with a zipped file: ESP, BSA and INI set. You can find Mephala in front of her shrine. No special dialog other than her greetings towards you (disposition, vampire, arena-champion based). No 'Mephala' faction made for the worshippers, though I did consider it. For a certain option, the latest Tamago Club will be needed... I should upload LoversBitch once more just because 'Bitchy' in the cave is a custom Race that has High-Elf vocals, and I wanna study that for later.
fejeena Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 A bug in the ini ; Block with Safety ; ----------------->>>> ' If this switch is on, Daedra Lords will have contraceptives applied to ; them, the contraceptive flag being systematically applied through a repeat- ; ing automatic procedure (ie. contraceptive removal spells won't work). ; ; 0 = Feature disabled / 1 = Feature enabled (contraceptives applied) ; Default = 0 ; set DaedraLordMephala.BlockLAPFSafe to 0 That is not a ; ----------------------- EDIT: Why a bsa? bsa slows the game ( the unpack ) And it is more work to chack the files and detect unclean nif like this Do not use "remove" ! use "remove Branch" ! I remember a Emily nif that I cleaned with "crop to Branch" and without all the garbage from use "remove" instead of "remove Branch" the nif was only half the size. --------------- And that was the first of your nif I opened... now I will check the rest. EDIT2: nif with garbage: another 1 or 2 armor meshes amd all lowerbodies hand, ear, with different color setting as the body. ok head color setting are in most mod different as the body and changing it never reduced seams in my game, but normally the gloss is the same as the body. And have you uploaded the wrong lowerbodies? Lowerbody and the 3 preg bodies Penis and body does not fit at all. Only in the lowerpp.nif you do not see gaps. And why only erect penis? She/he is not Azura and always horny. And in your lowerbody armor is no dick, but such a erect dick would be visible. Your body nif are not compatible with LAPF You use SetBody reloaded nif. If a LAPF lowerbody nif is equipped during sex you have the foot-lowerbody gap. Do you use the lowerpp.nif that is in your folder? The feet does not match with that body. EDIT3: TES4Edit cleaning 2 vanilla dialogs and one world cell removed. EDIT 4: You bodies are a mix of Setbody reloaded and the other HGEC version (LAPF and designer body spell ) Your foot is Lovers, so there is no gap during sex with the LAPF lowerbody. But a gap with your lowerbody. Your lowerbody (also the preg bodies) is for SetBody , a gap with original upperbodies ( if someone replace your upperbody) and you have a gap with your foot nif. Your Upperbody is SetBody no gap with LAPF and SetBody lowerbodies. Your farmorshoes are or SB legs/lowerbody armorskirt is for SetBody (gap with original upper bodies, but I don't think someone have set this lovers undress during sex to Not equip lower, but uneqip upper body ) But when she is pregnant she seems to "wear" the preg bodies, then you see the gap ( when she has no sex ) ---------------- And no AI pack. First sex with Mephala: Of course she does not want to have sex in front of other people, so we went to a place where no worshipers could see us. But after sex she does not go back to the shrine. And if the follow and fight a wolf or the player she would not go back. A "stay at editor location" AI would be nice. ---------------------- And your texture is bad You should mirror the left side to the right, because there is also a back seam. You see her back is brown right and grey left and the brightness is different And the hand texture color is is too bright
LongDukDong Posted December 8, 2019 Author Posted December 8, 2019 INI FILE: DOH! Didn't notice because it only loads once (and I edited the notes after). BSA: Takes longer to load? I do not experience any such issues. SHOES: I did not make them. As the txt file states, they were made by 9hao FEET: The feet doesn't match with the Lowerbody Post Partum nif? Those were Roberts Feet for HGEC! If they line up with everything else, perhaps it would be better to say that the Post Partum nif that Tamago Setbody uses is the one that doesn't line up. This because the Tamago Setbody system opts for the 'Curvaceous Chubby' body mesh of Setbody. Of female body types, it's the second page of options, 5th down just past ECUV style. BODIES: "You bodies are a mix of Setbody reloaded and the other HGEC version" Actually, no. I acquired all upper and lower nifs from Setbody Reloaded. For example, the basic lower body was from "HGEC\LowerBody\femalelowerbody_LAB.nif" in the Characters\Bombshell folder. Pregnancy meshes all derive from there as well, though the Post Partum nifs used by TamagoClub are actually from the Curvaceous body options within the mod. I used no other. GARBAGE IN ALL LOWER BODIES: Really? I just used the nifs from the Setbody mod itself, only attaching the penis. Well, more to the point, I edited (CUT) Gigabite's Femboy lower body and PASTED the Setbody nifs in place. It didn't work out so well the other way around. It was strictly copy/paste while using the same NifScope system you seem to be. Any garbage would be from one source nif or the other. If it's the same garbage, it may be from Gigabite's ERECTION: Easier to "POINT" out that Mephala's got both types of junk. But I didn't want to be too imposing and use the BIG dick version. Also, the Armored Skirt includes a jock strap to keep it tucked in. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. AI PACK: Of course not. This is a resource. I don't know where end-users will place Mephala. TEXTURES: Believe it or not, those were supposed to be HI-RES textures available at Nexus Mods. Really..... High Rez Skin Textures for HGEC by Ozmo https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/20022 ,,.. got better vanilla men/mer to recommend? * * * I just updated the 1st page with spoilers for every Daedra Lord ... EVERY ... daedra ... lord .... even.... Mehrunes.... (suicidal?).
fejeena Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 Textures : yes I know the Hi Res pack, all the body textures have the extreme seams/wrong color. I think I use 1 or 2 , but I mirrored the texture ( copied the left side and mirror it to the right side ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How often have I posted about the two different HGEC versions ? I can not count it. Not the Curvaceous body , that body use totally different feet ( the same as Speedbuster Heavy ) No, the HGEC feet and lowerbody are different. You find Setbody versions and armor and clothes Mods for both version ( about 50/50% ) so you always have to check if it fits to the bodies you use. ( e.g. EVE armor clothes replacer is SetBody feet-leg. And VerySkimpyStockClothingArmorHGEC_and_BBB_HGEC is LAPF HGEC version ) The gap between upper and lower body when you mix Set body reloaded meshes with other meshes only affects SetBody reloaded. Think there are no armor clothes mods that use SetBody reloaded meshes. You only see it when the lowerbody is SetBody reloaded and the upper body/clothes/armor is the other version. Upperbody is SetBody no gap with the other version lowerbody/clothes/armor. And your feet are not from SetBody reloaded, it is the "other" HGEC feet. And it is not the feet nif from the LAPF page. ( The LAPF feet in the Nif : "NiTriStrips foot HGECGM" And no separate nails . Also the SetBody reloaded foot nif has no separate nails ) And not this bones! In SetBody reloaded and the LAPF HGEC GM feet bones looks like And here your feet with different bodies You see Curvaceous body need totally different feet . And Your feet with SB reloaded does not match. And here picture I posted 2016 in the SetBody reloaded thread That is HGEC with HGEC but different versions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And your penis: Why not a flaccid penis? Mephala is not horny all the time. Your dick is very big and can not be hide in the jock strap of your armor nif! And during sex you have the Lovers penis, the futa loerbody without balls. (The balls disappear during sex ) And the dick you use does not match the body in the front and between the leg the penis part does not touch the body. The dick was not made for HGEC bodies ( and not for DMRA, I tested it) And if you fix it or add another dick ( flaccid ) with balls , you should also upload a animated futa nif with balls people can use with LAPF. --------------------------------------------------------------- And the garbage in your nif (wrong delete parts of the nif) : All lowerbodies you use I checked in SetBody reloaded folders, all are clean. But when I see your nif the Body is at the end and the penis above. So you copie the SetBody lowerbody in a Nif with the dick, so the garbage was in the penis nif , or you have delete the original body in the penis nif with "remove" not "remove Branch" ( The last added part is always at the end of the nif ) ---------------------------------------
fejeena Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 You used the wrong feet in your armor, the edged vanilla feet. #################################################### Here textures with less seams. I recolored the texture you use, Footfemale, ears, hands. Mephala texture.7z Here HGEC feet , both versions SetBody reloaded and LAPF/HGEC Body with BBB v1.12 Both versions with and without separate nails. And with separate painted nails ( I used you hand claw texture ) HGEC feet.7z Here your armorshoes, SetBody reloaded and LAPF version. Both in two versions, nature nails and painted nails ( I used you hand claw texture ) Mephala armorshoes.7z I can not use Blender so I can not fiy the penis ( But I would us a flaccid penis ) Your penis is from the Fem boy Mod. It use Roberts female meshes, that's why the penis can not match with a HGEC body. Here some flaccid lowerbodies, the LAPF without balls and 5 versions wih balls. Mephale Futa bodies.7z
LongDukDong Posted December 9, 2019 Author Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 2:00 AM, fejeena said: Your dick is very big and can not be hide in the jock strap of your armor nif! HOW DID YOU KNOW!!!!!????? Oh, you mean Mephala. 17 hours ago, fejeena said: I can not use Blender so I can not fiy the penis ( But I would us a flaccid penis ) Blender confuses the Crap outta me, so I'm just as stuck as you there..... But when she gets borked in the submissive position, she obviously isn't going to be flaccid. I just grabbed the attachments you posted. I cannot get to them right now, but I will take a look when I can. I'm also going to examine what you did insofar as any changes as I am inexperienced with altering meshes, OR seeing what needs to be cleaned. Gigabite just COULDN'T make a Exnem femboy mesh, eh? AND... Mephala's armor is her 'home-use' garb whilst in Oblivion (or perhaps her shrine). Her use among mortals is still in the works. I totally forgot about the second set. And gotta love Lady Nerevar's works for lore details.
fejeena Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 If you want all SetBody reloaded you must only change the nude feet, The armorshoes.nif is SetBody reloaded.
fejeena Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 And remember that you have no hand and foot meshes for the Curvaceous body in your Mod. Curvaceous does not use HGEC, It use own hand and foot, like DMRA or most Speedbuster bodies or the AGHGEC bodies.
LongDukDong Posted December 12, 2019 Author Posted December 12, 2019 Just had the chance today to try your additions. Yep, some things are going to get replaced.... Still need 'erect' futa HGEC with balls..... grrr... SOMEONE HAVE BLENDER AROUND HERE!???? Well, if anyone uses HGEC hands uses the Tamago Setbody system, they'll encounter the issue with the Curvaceous bod not matching the hands and feet. Still, I am now working on Mephala's second outfit... one that is less daedric and more Tamriel based. You can see it in Shoddycast's vids about Mephala. Gotta love an Elder Scrolls Youtube series that actually gets Wes Johnson and Jeff Baker to reprise their vocal roles as Sheogorath and Haskill.
fejeena Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 The Curvaceous hand and foot are in SetBody reloaded. Somewhere hidden, ( Hand and foot nif exists only once for all bodies that use the same hand and feet. ) The penis with balls ; use the male penis or my Shriddan mesh. Wait some time I will upload all files.
fejeena Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 In the Curvaceous folder are the hand and feet. Hand with claws, but feet not painted, there are no separate nail ( If you want painted nails you have to add the nail texture to the footfemale texture) ( like I said the hand and foot was in the Speedbust heavy folder, in SetBody reloaded both bodies share the same hand and feet ) In the "LAPF Futa" and "My Futa" folders are the penis with balls during sex. You only need the "HugeAnimFuta , HugelimpFuta , HugesemilimpFuta , NormalAnimFuta and the labelf ini" when you play LAPF with the Aninated penis setting. The other 5 nif are for older lovers animations/penis settings. I used the "Like a Babe" lowerbody with butt bones in LAPF sex animations the butt bones are used. (in SetBody reloaded is a extra folder with butt bone meshes ) I have not done the preg bodies but in the folder "Preg with butt bones" are the 4 nif you use , the butt bone versions. Copy paste the dicks you want in the nif. Mephala stuff.7z EDIT: new upload with a third version of lowerbody with ball. The LAPF female futa penis with added ball in folder "LAPF Futa f" ( balls from LoversBitch dogs) ________________________________________________ You know that your bodies will never wrok right / the way you want ? If you only use LAPF you have only 9 folders for lowerbodies during sex ( and 6 are used but can be overwritten) and you have a lot of daedra. If only Mephala will have a unique body you need only one folder, but if she is pregnant she will use the no-preg-body during sex. If you use LAPF and Setbody reloaded and Tamago setbody reloaded. You have a unique body, Tamago don't know what body it should use when you are pregnant. And LAPF still use the no-preg-body during sex. You can replace a Setbody body ... but if you replace hand and feet it will change all bodies that use those hand and feet. There are only a few bodies with all 4 body files in the folder. and no other body use the same hand and foot ) OK you replaced a body... and now Tamago will use the right preg body for the replaced body, but it will not be your preg bodies. Or can you set the preg bodies each body will use in the Tamago set body ini ? But then you must overwrite preg bodies with your unique bodies. And during sex you still have the no-preg-body. You need LAPF, SetBody and Tamago set body reloaded and Lovers-Joystick. You use a body and Tamgo will use the right preg body and Joystick will use the right bodies during sex even when you are pregnant. But you still have the problem with your unique body, you must replace a SetBody body. But Tamago will not use the preg bodies you want ( Or can you set in the ini the bodies you want? But if you use unique bodies with dick you can not select these bodies, and replacing preg bodies is a bad idea, there are only a few (3) and all used by other bodies.) And you must also replace the right bodies in the Joystick folders with your unique bodies, and again there are only the few preg bodies that are used by all SetBody bodies. .................. I once mentioned that SetBody reload needs Player and NPC folder/bodies. A lot of folders! ( 30+ for all unique Player and NPC bodies) All folders with all 4 body nif, so no other bodies with be overwritten. ( If you would replace the HGEC hands with claws and pained nails 50+ bodies would use these hands) Then you need for all those new folders preg folders so that Tamgo can seletct the right unique preg bodies. And then Joystick need for every new folder a lowerbody for sex. All the new bodies must be in the esp or ini of SetBody,Tamgo set body and Joystick, so that the player/modder must only add the unique nif files in the Player/NPC folders. ( in the folders can be placeholder nif files with the names you must use ) ................. So your bodies will never be use the way you want it with the system we have now. With only LAPF you will soon no longer have any free folders , and preg bodies doesn't work. With replacing SetBody bodies you will have a lot of problems to find bodies you can use. And in Tamago set body you can not set the right preg bodies without mess up the other bodies. You use one body of each preg body sets (HGEC, P, THEC ) And the same with Joystick. The no-preg-body can be done but overwrite the preg body will mess up all 3 preg body sets.
LongDukDong Posted December 13, 2019 Author Posted December 13, 2019 16 hours ago, fejeena said: but if she is pregnant she will use the no-preg-body during sex. I do recognize that she will use the no-preg-body during sex... but that is sex while Aggressive. When submissive, the system enforces the lower body mesh and she will still have her junk. I've already shown screenshots of submissive Mephala with her dick and balls still visible. 16 hours ago, fejeena said: Tamago don't know what body it should use when you are pregnant. TamagoSetbody assumes only five meshes, this being the section in the INI file: set tsbrMain.iState to 110 set tsbrMain.svBody to sv_Construct "HPREG3E" SetStage tsbrMain 10 set tsbrMain.iState to 120 set tsbrMain.svBody to sv_Construct "PBodyX2" SetStage tsbrMain 10 set tsbrMain.iState to 130 set tsbrMain.svBody to sv_Construct "THPREG3" SetStage tsbrMain 10 set tsbrMain.iState to 140 set tsbrMain.svBody to sv_Construct "THPREG3" SetStage tsbrMain 10 set tsbrMain.iState to 150 ;150 and 151 are equally treated. set tsbrMain.svBody to sv_Construct "CC" SetStage tsbrMain 10 The third trimester appears to have TWO stages, iState 130 and iState 140. These are links to the default meshes in SetBody used for pregnancy, and these are the ones I used. "CC" is for Curvy Curvaceous, the non HGEC bod. Unfortunately, there is no suitable body mesh for post partum bellies made for the HGEC or exnem style., so Curvaceous is needed... and by that respect won't work with HGEC/Setbody hands and feet. Blame the makers of Tamago Setbody for that oversight? 16 hours ago, fejeena said: OK you replaced a body... and now Tamago will use the right preg body for the replaced body, but it will not be your preg bodies. Or can you set the preg bodies each body will use in the Tamago set body ini ? But then you must overwrite preg bodies with your unique bodies. And during sex you still have the no-preg-body. Last time I checked, I got jiggy with a pregnant body Mephala... The pregnant body meshes are enforced, even during sex. The only time a mesh is not enforced is the lower body mesh if Mephala is aggressive, just as it would act with TamagoSetbody. I allowed LAPF to take over in that instance. But I also made sure that a submissive lower body takes hold, even when pregnant. ( Lower body enforced whilst submissive shown ) This is all controlled by a constant;y running spell effect specific for Mephala alone, checking even her menstrual state to check for what pregnant mesh to use IF pregnant. And all body meshes, even pregnant meshes, are part of Mephala's contents. How else would I have a pregnant female form with balls and dick? And this also enforces the proper feminine meshes even if the NPC was set to male, again as a screenshot I provides showed. Nearly done working on Mephala's second outfit. This being an outfit one can see if anyone watches the LORE series of youtube videos with material provided by Lady Nerevar. This is a more normal looking outfit, a dark hooded cloak with her wearing a leather corset and pants, boots, and long elbow-length gloves. Sexy and dark. If you read this ... I have not as yet grabbed the download you just provided. It should prove interesting. Either way, .... NOW IF I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THIS BLENDER SHIT! (Azura doesn't have a dick.... she should be much easier)....... 19 hours ago, fejeena said: The penis with balls ; use the male penis or my Shriddan mesh. I have plans for your Shriddan mesh.... She looks perfect to be the basis for a hot Nocturnal, or maybe 'grim reaper' her up enough to work out a dark and dangerous Vaermina. Which would you think would be suitable?
fejeena Posted December 13, 2019 Posted December 13, 2019 Yes I meant the LAPF lowerbodies during sex , and yes you see it only if in Off/aggessive position. Yes only the lowerbody can be wrong during sex in OFF position if pregnant or not. I thought it was clear when I talk about LAPF lowerbodies. So if Mephala fuck a NPC when she is pregnant she has the wrong lowerbody. EDIT: and "attacking women grow penis during sex" is enabled in the LAPF settings ------------------------ The Tamago set body ini you posted: Can you set it for different NPC and player? A NPC with A cup and S lowerbody should not have the preg bodies you use for Mephale. And maybe people do not want to use the preg bodies you use for Mehpala for all NPC and player. ( you mix all 3 preg body sets, most people use one set . HGEC, P or THEC ) If you use a penis body for Mephala , and also the preg bodies with flaccid penis all NPC will have a penis when pregnant. And I thought SetBody reloaded select different preg bodies for different body replacer. ( If you set HGEC A cup in set body , Tamago set body set a different preg body as if you set DMRA or Mega Oppai. I thought SetBody reloaded and Tamago set body "works together" ( Like Joystick add the right lowerbody during sex . ) But unfortunately only if you use a standard body that is part of SetBody reloaded . The Mods really need player and NPC folders for unique bodies But I don't use the two Mods and no Lovers Joystick. EDIT: with Auto set body ini you can set bodies for certain NPCs or races. ( like all female Woodelfs use HGEC B cup ) Can you also set the preg bodies ? ------------------------- Does Nocturnal and Vaermina need a penis ? Yes I know daedra can change body and gender but most of them never do it, Azura is always female. I would use the Shriddan body for Mephala , it is not so big as the LAPF penis, so it fits more the "hermaphrodite body" (maybe also smaller tits)
LongDukDong Posted December 13, 2019 Author Posted December 13, 2019 Oh, FACIALLY from your Shridden race. FACIALLY... Got a great look! I can't help the lower body when Mephala is in the offensive state during LAPF actions... In this case, I 'release' control of the lower body mesh so the animated shaft takes over as it should. Sure, you can set different body types with auto setbody, but I've only seen one set of viable preg meshes. So the Preg meshes need stay. 10 hours ago, fejeena said: ...all NPC will have a penis when pregnant. Nope. I thought I made it clear. The pregnant meshes with dicks are specific for her alone. They are not installed into the Setbody system, but are in her own folder and controlled by a constantly enforced body mesh system of her own. It only affects Mephala whether NPC gender is set to male or female, whether pregnant or not. It will not force other NPCs to have penises at all. Such systems like this are built into mods like the 'Children of Cyrodiil v 4.0' by ... (not Emma but that trashy one that started Monstergirl), and also within 'Dark Bloodlines' that Galgat translated. Many of their NPCs had their body meshes fixed. Now to grab your stuff (ABOVE!!!!). *cough*
fejeena Posted December 13, 2019 Posted December 13, 2019 So Set body , Tamago set body and Auto set body works as I feared. You can set different bodies but only one preg body. But with a own script you can use all the bodies but not with the SetBody reloaded system (+AutoSetBody, TamagoSetBody, Joystick)
LongDukDong Posted December 14, 2019 Author Posted December 14, 2019 8 hours ago, fejeena said: But with a own script you can use all the bodies but not with the SetBody reloaded system (+AutoSetBody, TamagoSetBody, Joystick) Yup. I ran into that when I tried casting SetBody on an NPC from Dark Bloodlines and wondered 'What the hell?" Found that they had a script enforcing their custom bodies. It works for me, especially since Mephala is hermaphrodite and needs to have both sets of plumbing regardless of gender. But unlike theBloodlines system, mine accounts for Tamago pregnancies. I just opened up your new package. Oooohhh variations. And it looks like you sent Chubby hands? It looks like I get to add a new condition to the hands and feet enforcement (assuming I can add the crimson fingernails to the hand). So many varieties, though the Preg Futa set doesn't have any balls. First, can I assume the "NormalAnimFuta" varieties are using the animated Penis from LAPF itself? And would it be the same 'height' for use with the pregnant body meshes if I were to swap it over? And what's the difference between LAPF Futa and LAPF Futa f ? Well, let alone Futanari 000,,001, 002,100 and 101 ? (I might be away from the project tomorrow..... ) Her Domestic 'Tamriel walking' wear is nearly done. Dark cloak, Leather laced pants, Black leather corset, gloves... I just need a little extra work on them now. Think that maybe I should go with something more pronounced? ALSO... ANYONE ELSE READING WANTING TO CONTRIBUTE ???
fejeena Posted December 14, 2019 Posted December 14, 2019 LAPF and LAPF F Why not open with nifskope? LAPF is the LAPF male penis with your lowerbody And LAPF f is the LAPF futa penis without ball but I add extra balls from the dog mesh in LoversBitch So both version are penis with balls now. And the preg meshes and penis. You must use the same position for the erect penis or the animations are wrong , penis not in right position. Yes some preg bodies will look shit because the dick is in the preg belly. But remember the penis is animated during sex so it wil be in the NPC ( but you know with preg bodies the belly is often also in the NPC ( clipping) ). So copy the penis from the "LAPF , LAPF f or My Futa" in the preg body nifs. The not erect penis can be moved in a better position if needed in the body replacer meshes and "preg during sex meshes" . With MeshRigger you "fixed" the penis in the new position. You you know what bodies you want and if the penis is not in right position I can help with nifSkope and MeshRigger. ............................. 000,,001, 002,100 and 101 Yes not needed with the default LAPF body settings. ------------------------------ I tried to find out how your script work ... I I still don't understand it. You set the Body with Additem and they are clothes item. Normally Lovers removes all clothes during sex ( I set "remove unplayable clothes" but you body is not removed. Only SetBody "clothers" items are blocked in LAPF, and Blockhead works because it does not add items. ??? So I don't know why your bodies works ( of course it's good that they work) And you use Tamgo token with out checking if Tamago is installed. You use the Womb State token but the ID "a4tcWombState" is not in your script ?? And no Tamago.esm loaded check. But if it work its fine. I wanted to add Tamgo bodies to my shriddan race ( player only body ) , that's the only think that I miss in may game. Body replacer and bodies during sex. ------------------- And I found a problem ( But maybe it is only in my game) I want to have sex with Mephala. And she say "let's go somewhere more private". She follows me. I have dialog options "Sorry I have changed my mind" or I can ask for sex. I ask for sex. We have sex... And now the "bug" she still follows me and I still have the option "sorry I have changed my mind". I can fuck her 10 times and she follow me to whole Tamiel. I tested it with other NPC and after sex they do not follow and dialog "sorry I have changed my mind" is gone. Then I though maybe a problem with "no playable races" ( But golden saint and Dark seducers works ,,, I think ) I set her race to playable and now she does not like me anymore. Greeting "Leave now. I have no interest in anything that Molag Bal had a hand" or "Leave me be, vampire. I have no interest in your kind" Both dialogs she could not us as "no playable race" because the two Greetings are part of the Quest " Vampire "what NPCs say to you when you are vampire" [QUST:00024299] And the quest is set to "GetIsPlayableRace = 1 " But I saw the two Greetings only have condition "ID is Mephala" so she would say it to every player, vampire or not. ( I am no vampire) So I think the Greetings should not be used till now. Are not finished. Of coures I was not able to test the sex because I could not ask her. I think I block the the two greetings to test sex. But now I am busy with other things. EDIT: I found out why Mephala still have the LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP dialog "sorry I have changed my mind" and follow me after we had sex. Because she has no AI package. First I tested the no-playable race GoldeenSaint, but everything was OK. Then I checked LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP dialog "sorry I have changed my mind" and the only conditon is the LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP Follow AI Pack. And RefScope in game tell me Meppala still have the follow AI pack. And I wondered why the package is not removed. Maybe because she has no other AI pack? So I gave her a AI pack and now LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP works without problems.
LongDukDong Posted December 15, 2019 Author Posted December 15, 2019 Basically, I'm gonna have fun balling up the pregnant meshes. - - - - - 13 hours ago, fejeena said: You use the Womb State token but the ID "a4tcWombState" is not in your script ?? The 'count' of womb state tokens the NPC has is the womb state. If Mephala has 120 of these tokens, she's in the 120 womb state. Easy enough to test, and it is tested like so in the below described script. - - - - - Well, the custom script's first step is to acquire the actual naked body meshes and equip them. This is DO ONCE, and kicks out of the script the first time it runs, After that, all other features of this script execute over and over once it is established that Mephala's body is properly loaded. The next step is to acquire the 'having sex', and 'in defensive' flags from LAPF. It also loads a reference to the chinupo delete funtion from LAPF. It runs only if the DALAPFTrue value is set to 1, meaning the LAPF system is loaded. It also tests to ensure all of these were properly acquired from the main quest page. After that, it runs a new step that loads the Tamago system immunity flag, womb and wombstate flags, and loads a special 'tamago all-apply' function under a special consideration (latest version of TamagoClub. The DATAMTrue value not only determines if TamagoClub is loaded, but if the latest version is in use: 0 = not used, 1 = loaded, 2 = latest version.... The following Tamago Support executes only if the DATAMTrue value is greater than 1 (ie the latest version). It runs the latest version, only runs if the character is MALE ( for Mephala male ) . And it only applies a womb to Mephala if she doesn't have one. Like I said, Mephala is 100% full hermy... The LAPF Action Test looks to see if the target is having defensive sex and if the target is male. This is part of a lower mesh executing test. The Tamago Condition Test only runs if the DALAPFTrue value ensures that Tamago is running It tests if Mephala goes from one menstrual state to another, and if this involves any stages of pregnancy. It will remove any upper and lower meshes when needed. And it is here where I count the number of womb state tokens as I mentioned. The upper body mesh tests adds the upper mesh to Mephala. What you may not notice is that it includes tests for the DATAMTrue value along with womb state ranges. And in each, it adds the proper body mesh and subsequently equips it. Yet, if no pregnancy (or no tamago), it loads the normal upper body mesh. Same goes for the other body pieces... But it looks like I need to adapt the hand and feet code to recognize your chubby hands. 13 hours ago, fejeena said: ??? So I don't know why your bodies works ( of course it's good that they work) Well, I hope that description helps...? - - - - - Okay, that is freaky weird about your experience with the "sorry I have changed my mind". But I guess since there's nothing telling her that she hangs out at point "A" in an AI pack, there's no place to return. Hrm... food for thought in a read-me for users. - - - - - I have great meshes for her clothes. Heck, I even have icons for her Tamriel clothes. I just need 'world' meshes if the player somehow gets them and finds out they can't be worn! (Fuck it, I'm dropping them!!!). The ON EQUIP works if it is ON EQUIP Player or ON EQUIP (npc's name) Unfortunately, it won't allow .... ref me ON EQUIP me if me.getisrace Mephala......... Yeah, this doesn;t work. If iit did, I'd be able to make sure NO ONE could wear her meshes..... Unless you know a way around that. - - - - - And ... know of any other scripts/effects that Daedra Lords should be immune???
fejeena Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 You want that player and NPCs can not wear her armor? So player companions or slaves can not wear it. maybe --------------------------------------------------------------------- ref me Begin OnEquip set Me to getself if me == Player message "I cannot wear this",10 me.UnequipItemNS DaMephalaArmorCuriass elseif me != MephalaRef ;;; You have not give her a Ref ID yet. me.UnequipItemNS DaMephalaArmorCuriass else ;;; Mehpale can equip it endif --------------------------------------------------------- EDIT: Ground nif Why not a box? Many modders use a box Can look like this Ground nif.7z with textures Edit2 or like this Spoiler NOT in the file above!
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