ann.onymous Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 i'm sure i overlooked something obvious but i crash often and i tried everything i could think of, Fnis xxl, save cleaners, tes5e quickautoclean and loot. still happens. any help would be much appreciated. Load order: Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 SexLab.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1 MiasLair.esp=1 Campfire.esm=1 CreatureFramework.esm=1 dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 Havok Breast Physic.esm=1 ITortureFramework.esm=1 OSA.esm=1 paradise_halls.esm=1 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1 barenziahquestmarkers.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 blaze of eventide.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1 LupineWerewolfPerkExpansion.esp=1 SLALAnimObj.esp=1 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp=1 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1 SOSRaceMenu.esp=1 Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp=1 togglewolf.esp=1 Vivid Weathers.esp=1 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp=1 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1 Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp=1 Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White - Big.esp=1 Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White.esp=1 Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp=1 WetandCold.esp=1 WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1 more plants all.esp=1 ParadiseHallsMiasLairPatch.esp=1 0_katnerd_StartPlayerFemale_Spells.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 AddItemMenuLE.esp=1 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp=1 All-MakerStonesPower.esp=1 Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp=1 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp=1 pahe-tdf-patch.esp=1 Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp=1 Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp=0 Lakeview_Extended.esp=1 BlackthornManor.esp=1 MilkModNEW.esp=1 MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp=1 Ebonvale.esp=1 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1 MoreNastyCritters.esp=1 Undeath.esp=1 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1 Lakeview_Extended_Basement.esp=1 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp=1 Clockwork.esp=1 Hunterborn.esp=1 Frostfall.esp=1 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1 Religion.esp=1 xamnant.esp=1 boundtools.esp=1 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp=1 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp=1 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1 HarvestOverhaul.esp=1 USLEEPSurvivalModPatch.esp=1 PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp=1 Arcanum.esp=1 Cum Alchemy.esp=1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1 Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp=1 SOS - Shop.esp=1 staffbundle.esp=1 balfer.esp=1 Spellsword.esp=1 darkproject.esp=1 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1 Vampirelordroyal.esp=1 The Seven Wonders of Leyenda.esp=1 pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp=1 Lakeview_Extended_Interior.esp=1 Book of the Divines.esp=1 HornyCreatures.esp=1 SexLabWerewolves.esp=1 WitchhunterPackRelease1.0.esp=1 SLDragons.esp=1 chfshImbuedSword.esp=1 My Home Is Your Home.esp=1 My Home Is Your Home dialogue patch.esp=1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1 Radiant Armor (Brightest).esp=1 HentaiCreatures.esp=1 SpellswordApocalypse.esp=1 Apropos2.esp=1 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 Dawnguard - Join As A Vampire.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp=1 Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp=1 HarkonRingsAndNecklaces.esp=1 Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=1 Havok Breast Physic.esp=1 HDT Havok Object.esp=1 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1 JaxonzRenamer.esp=1 LostGrimoire.esp=1 mihaildwarvenpowerarmor.esp=1 MilkModNEW CF.esp=1 MilkModNEW HF.esp=1 Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp=1 Rayg_NoBYOHAttacks.esp=1 Religion CCF Patch.esp=1 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1 Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1 Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1 MiracleUnbound.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, ann.onymous said: SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1 Update to MNC SLAL 58 minutes ago, ann.onymous said: Warmer Magic Lights v2 - Big.esp=1 Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White - Big.esp=1 Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White.esp=1 this looks like you installed all possible optional files, choose only one 59 minutes ago, ann.onymous said: RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp=1 + 59 minutes ago, ann.onymous said: Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp=1 Havok Breast Physic.esp=1 HDT Havok Object.esp=1 + 59 minutes ago, ann.onymous said: RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1 => how did you mess this up? choose either UUNP or CBBE, but kudos for being able to try to run both in one LO ^^
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 optional, but I think you really need to update a lot of mods in your LO: 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1 here is the updated version: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/80918 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1 I recommend EFF or even iAFT If you use creature followers or custom followers with own AI => NFF
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp=1 this alone will make your game instable
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm=1 + 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: MilkModNEW.esp=1 MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp=1 I recommend those to make inflations more smooth and compatible:
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 If you want to make a big load order with lots of complex LL mods: > check if you have a SKSE.ini > check if you use crash fixes > grab ENBoost more details here:
ann.onymous Posted October 5, 2019 Author Posted October 5, 2019 so... long story short for all curious i have a habit of modding skyrim alot every half a year or so and then uninstalling and forgetting, whenever i reinstalled it seems i brought old stuff over i didnt even notice whoopsie, and unp is there from a while ago when i swapped over. tl;dr im dumb
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, ann.onymous said: so... long story short for all curious i have a habit of modding skyrim alot every half a year or so and then uninstalling and forgetting, whenever i reinstalled it seems i brought old stuff over i didnt even notice whoopsie, and unp is there from a while ago when i swapped over. tl;dr im dumb Not dumb, if you have a lot of mods in NMM I guess it's hard to keep the overview. Before I start a new LO I spend a few hours to check for updates from Nexus and LL. Chances are high to forget a little patch or addon. Time to get up to date! =D And install some SLAL packs to make stingray happy ;D
GenioMaestro Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: this alone will make your game instable Can you explain why?
ann.onymous Posted October 5, 2019 Author Posted October 5, 2019 another thing ty for the help im quite the newbie when it comes to this....part of the modding world
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Can you explain why? yes, install it and check what happens if you have more than 100 mods installed. I got CTD regularly with it installed, while using extensive patches for other mods related to it. Oha, it got updated a few times since I used it. Maybe there are also more patches out there now. Last tested Jan 2018, don't see anything that really changed. I recommend a LotD focused LO, also easier to troubleshoot.
GenioMaestro Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 49 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: yes, install it and check what happens if you have more than 100 mods installed. Oha, it got updated a few times since I used it. Maybe there are also more patches out there now. I have it working with another 250 mods in a savegame with 1 year of history.
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said: I have it working with another 250 mods in a savegame with 1 year of history. Lucky combination!
GenioMaestro Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Lucky combination! Luck? Do you really think it's by simple luck? Certainly, it could be due to the specific combination of modifications that I have installed. But I think you know that I install each and every one of the mods with problems reported by other users, including those you report, and my game works perfectly. I don't have any of the problems reported. Why will it be?
Corsayr Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 part two of your topic is long saves I didn't see anyone address this so I thought I'd mention Long saves are usually a bloated SKSE save, you can clean that with Netimmerse Override Cleaner Spoiler
donttouchmethere Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 9 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: Luck? Do you really think it's by simple luck? Certainly, it could be due to the specific combination of modifications that I have installed. But I think you know that I install each and every one of the mods with problems reported by other users, including those you report, and my game works perfectly. I don't have any of the problems reported. Why will it be? Not sure how you test. A quick install and a few hours of play => pretty much everything works at first, if the base game is stable. Also I think you like to ignore issues you declare as irrelevant because "the core mod works". And remember saying you tried 250 mods with, it doesn't mean much, if we don't know what mods those are. I mean I get every time a stable LO if 30% of all mods are Outfits/NPC replacers/Weapons/spells/Equipment/followers, while the other 30% mods are just do fixes and patches. Also I doubt that you play for one year with the same LO and always Legendary installed. I guess I need to try legendary again after 2 years, I might have learned something and patches got updated. In this case we have a player that has to update it's game and probably needs the basic stability fixes. A mod like Legendary... can make issues if combined with other LL mods or game mechanic changing mods. Especially if the patch jungle isn't installed right. Ordinator is another one that can make issues like Legendary for example. Means troubleshooting doesn't get easy. Also I tried Legendary with other mods it connects to (or the other way around) and tried to find my way to the patch jungle with little success, while I say other ppl have issues with it too in tech support. If you say it works for you in your combination and I say it didn't work well in my combination we have now a 50% chance the mod won't make issues in a complex LO =D First goal should be to help the OP to get a stable base game, after that new experiments by adding mods can be started =D So basically help the OP with your legendary wisdom to make it all work and post a LO where you can show in what combination the mod works without issues on a longer game ?♂️ That way you help the OP and me more than just trying to start one of your discussions about terms and definitions. I know you can do it! ?
GenioMaestro Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 9 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: saying you tried 250 mods with, it doesn't mean much, if we don't know what mods those are. This my profile with 249 plugings. You can revise this post to verify i have each one of the reported mods. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 7 7 Falskaar.esm 8 8 ApachiiHair.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 a BeeingFemale.esm 11 b SexLab.esm 12 c SexLabAroused.esm 13 d Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified.esm 14 e Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp 15 f SMSkyrim.esp 16 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 11 MiasLair.esp 18 12 Campfire.esm 19 13 CreatureFramework.esm 20 14 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 EagleEyePerk.esm 24 18 moonpath.esm 25 19 ITortureFramework.esm 26 1a paradise_halls.esm 27 1b PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 28 1c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 29 1d SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm 30 1e Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 31 1f HighResTexturePack01.esp 32 20 HighResTexturePack02.esp 33 21 HighResTexturePack03.esp 34 22 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 35 23 Cutting Room Floor.esp 36 24 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 37 25 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 38 26 Romance fix.esp 39 27 multi_cloak.esp 40 28 Circular_Reference.esp 41 29 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 42 2a EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 43 2b PredatorsLostTribesV1.esp 44 2c LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp 45 2d CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 46 2e DepthsOfSkyrim.esp 47 2f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 48 30 3DNPC.esp 49 31 UIExtensions.esp 50 32 AddItemMenu2.esp 51 33 AHZmoreHUD.esp 52 34 AI Package Manager.esp 53 35 aleGetNaked.esp 54 36 AllNudePlay.esp 55 37 AMatterOfTime.esp 56 38 WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp 57 39 WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp 58 3a CWIELnFXPatch.esp 59 3b NPCs Protected and Uncapped.esp 60 3c paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 61 3d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 62 3e Shout Like a Virgin.esp 63 3f Undeath.esp 64 40 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 65 41 OBIS.esp 66 42 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 67 43 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 68 44 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 69 45 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 70 46 ELFX - Weathers.esp 71 47 SexLab_Solutions.esp 72 48 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 73 49 Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 74 4a MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 75 4b DFB - Random Encounters.esp 76 4c The Brotherhood of Old.esp 77 4d AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 78 4e animal_mansion.esp 79 4f AnubAnimObj.esp 80 50 Apropos.esp 81 51 JobsofSkyrim.esp 82 52 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp UndeathClassicalLichdom.esp 83 53 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 84 54 SkyrimUnhinged.esp 85 55 Dwarfsphere.esp 86 56 MilkModNEW.esp 87 57 Milk Addict.esp 88 58 Immersive Encounters.esp 89 59 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 90 5a Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 91 5b Immersive Wenches.esp 92 5c Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 93 5d MoreNastyCritters.esp 94 5e dc-untamed-000.esp 95 5f SexLab Beastess.esp 96 60 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 97 61 moonpath_questdata.esp 98 62 PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 99 63 PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp 100 64 SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp 101 65 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp 102 66 Immersive Patrols II.esp 103 67 MistySkye.esp 104 68 Frostfall.esp 105 69 SofiaFollower.esp 106 6a RDO - iAFT Patch.esp 107 6b SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 108 6c DeviousFollowers.esp 109 6d Devious Cidhna.esp 110 6e MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasic.esp 111 6f Recorder Follower Base.esp 112 70 Deviously Enslaved.esp 113 71 More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp 114 72 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 115 73 SOS - Shop.esp 116 74 Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp 117 75 Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp 118 76 Sassy.esp 119 77 SMSkyrim - 3DNPC Patch.esp 120 78 DragonPriestMasks.esp 121 79 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 122 7a Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 123 7b ESFCompanions.esp 124 7c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 125 7d Beastess Vampire.esp 126 7e BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 127 7f beinz_plugin.esp 128 80 Better Vampires.esp 129 81 Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp 130 82 Companions No Werewolf Option.esp 131 83 SkyUI.esp 132 84 Customizable Camera.esp 133 85 EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp 134 86 CWIMTOTPatch.esp 135 87 CWICRFPatch.esp 136 88 CWISPOPatch.esp 137 89 Cynthia20190627.esp 138 8a ZIA_Daedric Pack_V4.esp 139 8b The Manipulator.esp 140 8c LoversComfort.esp 141 8d pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp 142 8e LunariWarriors.esp 143 8f Naked Dungeons.esp 144 90 slavers_spellbook.esp 145 91 DanarielStormbow.esp 146 92 DD_Helpers.esp 147 93 Deadly Wenches.esp 148 94 Devious Devices - Equip.esp 149 95 DisableHDREffects_MCM.esp 150 96 DW.esp 151 97 Elephant'sScriptLatencyTester.esp 152 98 ELFX - Moonpath.esp 153 99 FalskaarRNDPatch.esp 154 9a fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp 155 9b FNIS.esp 156 9c FNISSexyMove.esp 157 9d FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp 158 9e Giada.esp 159 9f Hair Physics Project.esp 160 a0 HDT Female Hairstyles.esp 161 a1 HDTTailsEquipable.esp 162 a2 HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 163 a3 HentaiCreatures.esp 164 a4 Imaginator BETA.esp 165 a5 Immersive Arousal.esp 166 a6 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp 167 a7 Japanese.esp 168 a8 JaxonzZoom.esp 169 a9 KomAnimObjects.esp 170 aa KomAnimScaler.esp 171 ab KS Hairdo's.esp 172 ac KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 173 ad Liz Follower.esp 174 ae LootandDegradation.esp 175 af Milker Movil Armor.esp 176 b0 MilkModNEW CF.esp 177 b1 MilkModNEW HF.esp 178 b2 MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp 179 b3 MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp 180 b4 mintylightningmod.esp 181 b5 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 182 b6 NibblesAnimObjects.esp 183 b7 OBISDB.esp 184 b8 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp 185 b9 pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp 186 ba SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 187 bb pahe-tdf-patch.esp 188 bc paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 189 bd PermaZONESLegendaryBalanced.esp 190 be RaceMenu.esp 191 bf RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 192 c0 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 193 c1 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 194 c2 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 195 c3 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 196 c4 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 197 c5 RevertUSKPFortifyRestoration.esp 198 c6 RutahTattooPack.esp 199 c7 SAP.esp 200 c8 SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 201 c9 ScriptTest.esp 202 ca SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 203 cb SexLab Cumshot.esp 204 cc SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp 205 cd SexLabCumRegenerator.esp 206 ce SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 207 cf SexLabSquirtR.esp 208 d0 SexLabTools.esp 209 d1 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 210 d2 Size Does Matter.esp 211 d3 SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp 212 d4 skyrimespawn.esp 213 d5 SL Deadly Drain.esp 214 d6 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 215 d7 SLALAnimObj.esp 216 d8 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 217 d9 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 218 da SLAL_K4Anims.esp 219 db SLAL_ProxyAnimObjects.esp 220 dc SLAnimLoader.esp 221 dd SlaveTats.esp 222 de SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 223 df SlaveTatsMagicManager.esp 224 e0 SLPleasure.esp 225 e1 SLSO.esp 226 e2 SLSW Addicted.esp 227 e3 SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp 228 e4 SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp 229 e5 SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp 230 e6 SOS - Revealing Armors.esp 231 e7 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 232 e8 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 233 e9 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 234 ea SOSRaceMenu.esp 235 eb TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp 236 ec TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 237 ed TimeSlowToggle.esp 238 ee UnreadBooksGlow.esp 239 ef Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 240 f0 WetandCold.esp 241 f1 WetFunction.esp 242 f2 XPMSE.esp 243 f3 ZIA_Ancient Pack_V4.esp 244 f4 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 245 f5 SkyrimURWL.esp 246 f6 SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp 247 f7 ELFXEnhancer.esp 248 f8 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 249 f9 Cavalos.esp As you can see some are small, others are armors, others followers... but i have the most big mods of this site and some big mods from Nexus. This is my savegame number 2900 with a size of 75 MB after 1 year of continuous play: Spoiler In 1 year I add and remove hundreds of mods and, of course, i clean my savegame hundreds of times. I play and remove big mods like Rigmor, Vigilant, DCUR... and my game not have any problem. The problem of the OP is not in the old version of MNC or Winthermist or UFO or Legacy or Havock Objects... All that mods works and not give any CTD. Is correct and convenient update it to new versions but make it not solve the CTD because the CTD are caused by the lack of this tools: 21 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: > check if you have a SKSE.ini > check if you use crash fixes > grab ENBoost That is the start point for have a stable game but i add BethIni for optimice the INI files. The second problem of the OP is the "long saves" but not specify if are long in size or in time.
donttouchmethere Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said: As you can see some are small, others are armors, others followers... but i have the most big mods of this site and some big mods from Nexus. This is my savegame number 2900 with a size of 75 MB after 1 year of continuous play: This is an amazing setup! Looks like what I play around with, pretty much the same devious stuff that is + some quest mods. ? Seems I'm on the right path then. Also I got scared already if I have over 80k strings, now I see there is even more possible.? Now I definitely have to try Legacy again (but this time without the other mods it connects too)! You even got Lost Tribes into it somehow! ? ? And it got updated to, time to get it back into my game =D 1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said: The problem of the OP is not in the old version of MNC or Winthermist or UFO or Legacy or Havock Objects... All that mods works and not give any CTD. Is correct and convenient update it to new versions but make it not solve the CTD because the CTD are caused by the lack of Those are recommendations to rise the stability of the game, can be even unrelated to the actual CTD. I can not know exactly why he has a CTD or maybe savegame bloat (long save times). In the future I will make will write "recommendation" on everything to please you xD Also don't believe you if you say that UUNP and CBBE together won't cause issues (including the HDT functions both use) o.O Long saves are a bad sign that something is going wrong, especially early ingame (first 30 RL hours), don't thing the stability tool will help with that. 1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said: this tools: Well, that's why I posted it ?♂️ Also I still don't get it why we have that conversation, instead of you helping the OP by directly answer to his questions and issues? (nevertheless I'm happy to make you post that awesome LO)
donttouchmethere Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 7 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: You can revise this post to verify i have each one of the reported mods. No surprise, because I have most of those too. Still the same mods I use in my LO right now can make issues in a different setup. If you read what the ppl write instead of just understanding what you want, you would understand that the same mods that usually work can make issues depending on MCM settings and mods that are in LO. Doesn't stop me from using them if the conditions are right ?♂️
ann.onymous Posted October 6, 2019 Author Posted October 6, 2019 ty for the advice donttouchmethere, i decided itd be easier and less buggy to build from scratch then add everything you reccomended, seems to be much better now. now all i gotta do is figure out zEdit and merge stuff, for the life of me i cant figure it out but if you got any good guides available id appreciate it.
donttouchmethere Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: ty for the advice donttouchmethere, i decided itd be easier and less buggy to build from scratch then add everything you reccomended, seems to be much better now. now all i gotta do is figure out zEdit and merge stuff, for the life of me i cant figure it out but if you got any good guides available id appreciate it. Wise choice, recommend: start slow and don't fill the LO too fast, test in between, get SL working first^^ (blablabla, as if I would do that >.<) I used this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69905 for merging mods and you find a good vid tutorial on that page too (also GamerPoets has a cool voice) That's how I learned (barley) how to do it. Some try and error later and you get better.
donttouchmethere Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ann.onymous said: zEdit depends what you want to do there > clean mods > make a TESVmergedpatch (instead/in addition to of a bashed patch, solve conflicts) > modify mods > check out what that mod can do but we get already to stuff I just start to do ?
Shinobi7 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 5:41 AM, ann.onymous said: ty for the advice donttouchmethere, i decided itd be easier and less buggy to build from scratch then add everything you reccomended, seems to be much better now. now all i gotta do is figure out zEdit and merge stuff, for the life of me i cant figure it out but if you got any good guides available id appreciate it. any progress on your issues Ann.onymous ? If so please share the fix as I have similar issue sometimes.
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