Troubles of Heroine

[Ruax]

I have a couple of questions about the quests. Please tell me
Real and fake heroes. After I handed over the title to the "Real" Dovakin, he sits with me in dragon's reach and has only one dialogue with him, you can't take him as a companion, he doesn't do anything further. The question is, is this how it should be, or is the mod laid down somewhere? And after talking to him, Lydia can't be taken as a companion either.
"The Taming of the Lioness": Help Aerin seduce Myola. How to start it. If it's through dialogue with Mala, then so far everything has led to the fact that Aerin dies at the end. And if possible, is there any guide or walkthrough?

[Ruax]

On 31.03.2025 at 10:18, Ikaros said:

Эй, супер глубокий и сложный мод, очень впечатляет. Но у меня возникла проблема с квестом «Настоящие и фальшивые герои» для женщин:

 

Я получаю это задание, поговорив с Балгрууфом и выбрав вариант «Тебя что-то беспокоит?». Задание начинается, мне дают книгу, и рядом с дверью замка появляется NPC «Настоящий Драконорожденный». С этим проблем нет.

 

Но квест «завершается» сразу после разговора с Настоящим Драконорождённым, после первого этапа. «Квест завершён», и Настоящий Драконорождённый не присоединяется ко мне.

 

После первого диалога он лишь неоднократно «прощает» меня. Никаких дальнейших вариантов диалога, никакой возможности завербовать его или что-то ещё.

 

Я вижу варианты диалога с Балгрууфом о суде, приговоре и т. д. У кузнеца есть возможность заплатить мне 50 септимов, но это ничего не даст.

 

Это весь контент для этого задания? Или задание не работает на моей стороне? Спасибо

 

РЕДАКТИРОВАТЬ : Я играю на SE, если это поможет

The same story, and I do not know how to solve this problem. If you have any ideas or have already found solutions, let us know.

[DSHV]

On 3/30/2025 at 7:35 PM, justsomeguy333333333 said:

Can I access quests like "Pursuit of a Shadow" or "Yet Another Master" without having to complete "Heart of Darkness"?

Yes. As for mods - I use Malkoran's Shade for Serpent's shadow, maybe something affects this shade?

On 3/31/2025 at 9:18 AM, Ikaros said:

"Quest Complete" and Real Dragonborn doesn't join me.

He should become a follower. Do other NPCs have dialogue about foul liar? If yes then the problem is in Real Dragonborn. Try setstage aaarealandfalseheroes 11 and other stages. And if there are patches for this mod (voice or grammar), then disable them and see if it helped.

On 4/2/2025 at 9:12 PM, orfanclub6 said:

Equivalent exchange's "attribute theft"/ magicka , stamina , health & dragon soul trade but for any follower/npc?

Yes, to the real Dragonborn. Dragon souls should, in theory, level him up and change his AI to be braver.

On 4/3/2025 at 11:46 AM, AnomiMIce said:

I also tried setting to rank three, but the dialogue option still did not appear.

If not a relationship, then maybe the problem is his voice type. He should be Male Brute, this type has follower dialogues, maybe some mod changed his voice type to another one that does not have follower options. (Oh yeah, I didn't read your next message)

23 hours ago, t0mscklabo010Rant said:

I can't find couriers in Markarth, Northern Fortress, Thalmor HQ Solitude and Helgen.

These should be corpses of Thalmor couriers or just the notes. The courier's corpse in Markarth should be in the Hall of the Dead.

20 hours ago, Ruax said:

I have a couple of questions about the quests. Please tell me

Try setstage aaarealandfalseheroes 11 and other stages. If there are patches for this mod (voice or grammar), then disable them and see if it helped.
Talk to Aerin to start. You need to catch him when Mjoll is in another location (for example, when she enters a building).

[lovalter]

Any practical differences between zaz and non-zaz version?

[Ruax]

5 hours ago, DSHV said:

Поговорите с Эрин, чтобы начать. Вам нужно поймать его, когда Мьолл будет в другом месте (например, когда она войдёт в здание).

It doesn't work. There are no new dialogues with him. And the only quest that this couple can activate is Love and Death in Riften. 

[Ruax]

On 06.04.2025 at 13:26, DSHV said:

Попробуйте setstage aaarealandfalseheroes 11 и другие этапы. Если есть исправления для этого мода (голос или грамматика), отключите их и посмотрите, помогло ли это.
 

If I have a ready-made mod build, how do I find out if there are any fixes for the mod (voice or grammar) and how do I disable them? By the way, I tried to write this setstage aaarealandfalseheroes 11 command. Only item 100 worked. The real Dragonborn has disappeared. And point 50, the dialogue has been updated there, where g now speaks respectfully with a Real Dragonborn, but it is still impossible to take him into the squad.

[KazamaKiri]

Hey DHSV, A few questions or suggestions
Have you thought about doing some along the lines of Solution's "Use Female Followers for Male Characters" So we can still see the scenes and do the quest but using followers instead?

Are you open to ideas for Scenarios?
 

I know the Parent/Sibling rings existed but is it possible to have an actual NPC that spawns with the relationship tag of family with the player? Same Sex Parent would be a clone of the Player, with a Nord partner. Maybe also a Sibling. Toggleable on or off in MCM. This could give them scenes with each other.

 

Is it possible to have the "Partner's Old Friend" and "Jarl Sleeps with partner" Repeatable for new Partners? Be it remarried after death or Multiple Spouses mods.

 

Are scenes suppose to play out for certain NPCs after quests? Ysolda and Khajit after Mammoth Quest. Elisif, after telling her to sleep with her court during her "Sneaking out phase". Ysolda and Balgruf if registering "me and my Wife"

Is it possible to have more "NTR" situation? More like wife or husband cheating.
 

Possible for more interaction between NPCs added by your mod. Like more interactions from female NPCs with Male NPCs.

 

Brothel Building that spawns Male/Female Patreon. Could be used for your own mod or for other prostitution mods.

Turning followers into certain roles? Such as assigning them "Roles" which gives them a whole suite of Dialogues around that role, towards player and other NPCs.

[DSHV]

 

On 4/6/2025 at 3:21 PM, lovalter said:

Any practical differences between zaz and non-zaz version?

No ZAZ animations and devices in Non-ZAZ version. It doesn't really affect anything big.

On 4/8/2025 at 1:01 AM, Ruax said:

how do I find out if there are any fixes for the mod (voice or grammar)

They should be in your mod manager as separate mods.

On 4/8/2025 at 3:42 AM, KazamaKiri said:

So we can still see the scenes and do the quest but using followers instead?

Hi. This would be very difficult to implement. Remade from dialogues scenes with dynamic alias.
 

1. It's possible, but quite difficult and expensive. And these NPCs need to be integrated into the world. Where will they live? How exactly will they interact with the player? By the way, I already did something similar in the quest with the real Dragonborn - I added the mother (or actress) of the PC.

2. Repeatable quests don't work for me. I seem to be doing one, but it works crookedly.

3. There are no scenes, everything is left to the imagination.

4. Yes.

5. These are scenes. I basically studied them in Fallout 4 modding, but I haven't tried them in Skyrim yet.

6. You can turn your house into a brothel from the Sudden Brothel quest. And Lydia should bring people to the house in her quests.

7. Yes, like with Temperament Tokens.

[Beelzebub123]

Создаётся впечатление, что сюжет с Лидией - пролог пролога квеста с настоящим довакином. Так как она действует с разрешения ярла, то он мог поручить ей развратить героиню, чтобы резонно можно было заменить её на мужика-довакина. Везде вижу интриги и заговоры...

Edited April 10, 2025 by Beelzebub123

[KazamaKiri]

6 hours ago, DSHV said:

1. It's possible, but quite difficult and expensive. And these NPCs need to be integrated into the world. Where will they live? How exactly will they interact with the player? By the way, I already did something similar in the quest with the real Dragonborn - I added the mother (or actress) of the PC.

2. Repeatable quests don't work for me. I seem to be doing one, but it works crookedly.

3. There are no scenes, everything is left to the imagination.

4. Yes.

5. These are scenes. I basically studied them in Fallout 4 modding, but I haven't tried them in Skyrim yet.

6. You can turn your house into a brothel from the Sudden Brothel quest. And Lydia should bring people to the house in her quests.

7. Yes, like with Temperament Tokens.

1. They could be disabled/enabled like Male/Female Bruiser. As for where they could be. Shove them in an Inn or Make part of a quest where you are looking for your family. After you meet them you can send them to any of your houses. Or use them as followers (Let Frameworks dealing with home/bases deal with that). I know there's the "Adopted" Father and Mother.

2. Gotcha, I suppose it could be just a brand new quest that's almost a replica of the first quest? First Spouse, is the default, 2nd Spouse is a new quest with new dialogue, with the Jarl, acknowledging your first Marriage (Maybe taunting the PC about liking to watch). Then 3rd would be last, basically giving the PC the ability to send Spouse to Jarl. I know that if you pick the option of husband after the quest you can go back to the Jarl and Cheat on your spouse. Maybe on that it's more and more of being possession of the Jarl and on the 3rd letting spouse watch?

3. I see, I guess it was another mod that made them have sex then, (I remember seeing it happen in LE back when LE was the only edition)

4. Planned or implemented? I know there's the Spouse Friend and Jarl's First night with spouse, but from the top of my head that's basically it.

 

5. Would be cool to see, can give the NPCs more "life" or atleast more variety in what you can see with them.

 

6. I ment more like an inn or tavern looking place, but I suppose killing the residence of an Inn works too.

7. Yeah but more extensive. Not just dialogue, you pick from list but just random ones they'll say while traveling or maybe interactions among themselves (Dominant will demand sex from Submissive). It also plays into #5, with scenes between the Followers.

 

Thanks for responding. Hope I don't come off as demanding.

[gufangxiong]

Hello Author: I completed Spermporter, but I didn't receive the Oldest Profession quest, only From Rags/Riches to Riches/Rag, and I asked if there were any hidden prerequisites for Oldest Profession

[Alturistix]

6 hours ago, KazamaKiri said:

2. Gotcha, I suppose it could be just a brand new quest that's almost a replica of the first quest? First Spouse, is the default, 2nd Spouse is a new quest with new dialogue, with the Jarl, acknowledging your first Marriage (Maybe taunting the PC about liking to watch). Then 3rd would be last, basically giving the PC the ability to send Spouse to Jarl. I know that if you pick the option of husband after the quest you can go back to the Jarl and Cheat on your spouse. Maybe on that it's more and more of being possession of the Jarl and on the 3rd letting spouse watch?

There's no way to natively detect new marriages. Not through vanilla functions, nor through extended papyrus. It would need to be integrated with the marriage mod to work that way. Even if you want to create this manually without marriage detection, you're just making things complicated for low returns.

 

14 hours ago, DSHV said:

Yes, like with Temperament Tokens.

I was hoping you'd do more with Temperament Tokens. The merchant warns against having the tokens in your inventory for a long time. So maybe after 1 week in game (basically set a counter and every 24 hours check whether the token is in your inventory. After a week you get inflicted with a "Cursed Temperament" effect, that randomly causes you to behave in a manner according to the token in your inventory. 

 

example: 

 

After you have the curse, when you talk to an NPC, there will be a dialogue option that says, "I'm feeling dizzy..."

 

When you click that option, a random dialogue will occur based on the token in your inventory.

Examples:

PC: "Hmmm.... I'm feeling strangely happy today. I feel like I can do anything that anyone asks me to." (Submissive Token)

NPC: Oh really? Then why don't you dance like a chicken right now?

PC: [Dizziness intensifies] Okay.  [Starts dancing like a chicken]

 

PC: "Hmm... I'm feeling strangely bold today. You, what are you looking at?" (Dominant Token)

NPC: "Uhh, me? I ah.. I was just appreciating your beauty! You must have been blessed by Dibella herself - With eyes like that, even the High King would fall to your charm!"

PC (1st time): (A fire ignites within your body, but you suppress it with your mind) "Huh! Flattery will get you no where! But it did save you from a beating. Now get out of my sight!"

PC (3rd time) : (A fire ignites within your body, but you don't want to suppress it anymore) "Hah! Then why don't you test it yourself?" (Sex)

 

The above are an example of how i think it can work. Basically, there would be a global variable for each of the token types. Each value would increase based on which dialogue you choose, and after a certain amount (Maybe 10 times?) that value will be locked (by setting another variable to 1) and then when you select "I'm feeling dizzy..." only the token type that reached 10 would appear.

 

[aspirine2]

when is the new update coming? and any new dialogues for (My Fan)?

many thanks in advance

[Beelzebub123]

Есть уже какие-то планы на следующее обновление? И ещё появился вопрос, две девушки-фанатки настоящего Драконорождённого появляются только в Доме тёплых ветров? Я давно играл в мод, помню что они появились после того, как я модом поселил его туда, и они сразу появились

Edited April 11, 2025 by Beelzebub123

[Vladel]

Now i have to say this is one of may favorite mods but where i think the author missed a trick is with the items you're given I.E the ones that are supposed to hurt you or are painful to use. I think it would be awesome if they actually had a physical effect like damaging your health if you sprint etc because at the moment the effects are left to your imagination which is a shame.

[lovalter]

Help, I always die during Critical Hit

[t0mscklabo010Rant]

На 4/6/2025 в 3:26 мск, DSHV сказал:

I still haven't found a courier or a note in Helgen.
Could there be a conflict with the Helgen Reborn mod?

 

[t0mscklabo010Rant]

I still haven't found a courier or a note in Helgen.
Could there be a conflict with the Helgen Reborn mod?

[Beelzebub123]

В одной книге есть подобные строки 

<img src='img://Textures/Interface/Books/Illuminated_Letters/A_letter.png'>
Я правильно понимаю, что я могу по этому пути добавить иллюстрации?

[KazamaKiri]

On 4/10/2025 at 5:58 PM, Alturistix said:

There's no way to natively detect new marriages. Not through vanilla functions, nor through extended papyrus. It would need to be integrated with the marriage mod to work that way. Even if you want to create this manually without marriage detection, you're just making things complicated for low returns.

That's why I was suggesting a Sequenced Quest. Once you do the first Night, Another Quest Marked or unmarked will start. Player has to manually "tag" the spouse they want to use. for the scene.
Could also scan which NPC has a wedding ring and use that to tag the person who will be part of the scene.

You also don't need to detect new marriages. The Marriage quest already calls the spouses Ref, I assume since they need to be moved to the temple and also targeted to be spoken to after the marriage, Why not inject something there that changes the ref ID of the spouse that will be used for the Night Quest?
There are ways to go around that issue I think. Just got to think outside the box a tad.

 

I did also suggest something similar to the "Spouse Friend" quest, What if the dialogue exists to any that is under the spouse Faction, Each time to "spawn" one that specific version of the friend can't be used anymore. So if first spouse you picked Redguard Male, then on next spouse you speak to about friend will have the Redguard Male option disabled.

 

On that note is it possible for the Childhood friend from Rorikstead play a similar role to the "Spouse Friend" where you can leave him with your spouse and slowly corrupt your spouse into submitting to him?

IE. Speaking to spoke and encourage them to hang out with your friend. Your friend will then be dismissed as a follower and a scene will play out either in your/spouses house or the Inn. If in the wilderness then somewhere nearby.

At first it might be just flirting but escalate to sex. At the end random conversation with spouse would be them saying they are busy and leaving, before playing a sex scene somewhere nearby with friend.

On the flip side, if PC is married have the Rorikstead Friend, lean into that thru dialogue, calling PC Cheating whore etc, or even activities like sex in room where spouse is sleeping. etc.

 

[Alturistix]

9 hours ago, KazamaKiri said:

On that note is it possible for the Childhood friend from Rorikstead play a similar role to the "Spouse Friend" where you can leave him with your spouse and slowly corrupt your spouse into submitting to him?

IE. Speaking to spoke and encourage them to hang out with your friend. Your friend will then be dismissed as a follower and a scene will play out either in your/spouses house or the Inn. If in the wilderness then somewhere nearby.

At first it might be just flirting but escalate to sex. At the end random conversation with spouse would be them saying they are busy and leaving, before playing a sex scene somewhere nearby with friend.

On the flip side, if PC is married have the Rorikstead Friend, lean into that thru dialogue, calling PC Cheating whore etc, or even activities like sex in room where spouse is sleeping. etc.

This should be possible. Would have to ask DSHV.

@DSHV Do plan on continuing some older stuff? I provided some quests for hearthfire some time ago, and Tokens of Temperament just some posts ago. This could also be a fun idea to implement.

 

9 hours ago, KazamaKiri said:

That's why I was suggesting a Sequenced Quest. Once you do the first Night, Another Quest Marked or unmarked will start. Player has to manually "tag" the spouse they want to use. for the scene.
Could also scan which NPC has a wedding ring and use that to tag the person who will be part of the scene.

You also don't need to detect new marriages. The Marriage quest already calls the spouses Ref, I assume since they need to be moved to the temple and also targeted to be spoken to after the marriage, Why not inject something there that changes the ref ID of the spouse that will be used for the Night Quest?
There are ways to go around that issue I think. Just got to think outside the box a tad.

So maybe something like where you first have to ask the Jarl for the right to divorce? So then the scripts wouldn't need to check whether the

Edited April 13, 2025 by Alturistix

[DSHV]

On 4/10/2025 at 5:48 PM, Beelzebub123 said:

Создаётся впечатление, что сюжет с Лидией - пролог пролога квеста с настоящим довакином.

There's a lot to expect from Jarl Balgruuf thanks to Public Whore, Slaverun, TOH and his connection with Mephala.

On 4/10/2025 at 9:46 PM, KazamaKiri said:

Thanks for responding. Hope I don't come off as demanding.

Well, I guess I can think about adding parents and making an evil mom NTR. Or raceplay with spouse, or just cheating. Or... Or... Although the wide variation in races and preferences will make this difficult. For example, if a High Elf bully mocks lesser races, and if the player and his parents, spouse are High Elves? And if an Orc is a bully? For each 10 races write own content +1 default for the random race from the mod.

On 4/11/2025 at 12:52 AM, gufangxiong said:

I asked if there were any hidden prerequisites for Oldest Profession

Tasks are given randomly and it is possible that you got several default options in a row.

On 4/11/2025 at 8:05 AM, aspirine2 said:

when is the new update coming?

I'm working on the Nuka-World add-on for POS now. And also a mod for same DLC for Nexus adding a minigame similar to Assassin's Creed Valhalla's Flyting.

On 4/11/2025 at 1:00 PM, Beelzebub123 said:

И ещё появился вопрос, две девушки-фанатки настоящего Драконорождённого появляются только в Доме тёплых ветров?

Yes. As I wrote above, I am working on POS now.

On 4/11/2025 at 7:11 PM, Vladel said:

I.E the ones that are supposed to hurt you or are painful to use.

I'm afraid of breaking something.

On 4/11/2025 at 9:21 PM, lovalter said:

Help, I always die during Critical Hit

Use tgm console command during it.

On 4/12/2025 at 10:43 AM, t0mscklabo010Rant said:

Could there be a conflict with the Helgen Reborn mod?

Yes.

18 hours ago, Beelzebub123 said:

Я правильно понимаю, что я могу по этому пути добавить иллюстрации?

You can write any path.

5 hours ago, Alturistix said:

Do plan on continuing some older stuff?

Yes, I have reworked the main quest, Spouse's Old Friend and Bruiser. In the next update I can still rework some old stuff.

[ben2002vl]

Hey, I’m running into a bug where I receive the Jarl’s letter and enter the private room in the Warrens, but there’s no chair—and the Jarl is already defeated and crawling on the floor.

[Beelzebub123]

Появились некоторые задумки, прошу пожалуйста оценить и возможно ли вообще это реализовать:

1. Взаимодействие приёмных родителей (Edippa и Ingmar), даже возможно мини-квест на их знакомство.
2. Возможно больше взаимодействий с супругом. Не в плане квеста Bully или др., а в плане диалогов и мини-квестов чисто между вами.
3. Новая недвижимость жгг - приют для бездомных, где она и её волонтёры помогают им всем (ну сомнительно немного, тк. после какого-то квеста, точно не вспомню, можно будет и так взаимодействовать с ними, но тут можно придумать что-то особое)
4. Квест связанный с Намирой и её поклонниками (после выполнения её лорного квеста и получения кольца)
5. Взаимодействия хускарлов (мб просто диалог небольшой со знакомством и последующим интимом между ними)
6. Квест с фалмерами, которых далее можно будет использовать для интима, плюс их корусы (я не помню, есть ли такое в моде, но на всякий случай) 
7. Изменение квеста с Садией (варианты, при которых гг спасает её: она становится рабыней гг, либо же госпожой и приказывает гг убить Кемату)
8. Квесты с неиграбельными для гг фракциями (Дозорные Стендарра, Изгои)
9. Квест с Хельгой (обучение искусству Дибеллы или что-то подобное, доминирующая)
10. Диалоги с горожанами Виндхельма после победы Империи/горожанами Солитьюда после победы Братьев Бури (на подобие foul liar)
11. Квест с сестрой Белетора, о которой он иногда молвится 
12. Глухое небольшое поселение/лагерь босмеров и особое взаимодействие с ними (не просто интим, а включая какие-нибудь особенности, которые можно приписать их культуре)
13. Больше книг (это сложнее обычных диалогов, но интересно было бы увидеть, можно вдохновиться ориджиналами или фанфиками на соответствующих платформах)
14. Квест с Элисиф (или др. женским ярлом) (верхушка и народ недовольны, что у них во главе женщина)

Ну... Как-то так. Не очень подробно, но если что-то привлечёт, попробую расписать подробнее

Edited April 13, 2025 by Beelzebub123

[KazamaKiri]

12 hours ago, DSHV said:

Well, I guess I can think about adding parents and making an evil mom NTR. Or raceplay with spouse, or just cheating. Or... Or... Although the wide variation in races and preferences will make this difficult. For example, if a High Elf bully mocks lesser races, and if the player and his parents, spouse are High Elves? And if an Orc is a bully? For each 10 races write own content +1 default for the random race from the mod.

 

I'm thinking High Elf could use a general Higher than thou attitude, with some lines based on specific race. You did do something like this already with Bruiser, saying "Dark Cunt" when Dark Elf and "Snow something" When Nord.
Orc can also be looking down on other race but just base it in power/strength.
Question is if it's just automatic or something we trigger. Would be nice to have "routes" of sorts, maybe you can have Mom/Dad be normal NPCs or Personal Lover, or NTRed.

 

So Normal at First > Seduce Parent > Introduce Cheat Partner.

Also if you want help with Dialogue, just to make it so you don't need to write everything. I don't mind submitting some. Can't say I'm great but Could help with implementing some ideas. Just give a guideline on how send it.
Ex :

Greet : "Hello Dear"
Option 1 (If Speechcraft over 60) : "Hey mom, you look lovely today"

-Mom : "Oh, yes, thanks... What made this come about"
Option 2 : "Have you met any new people today?"
Etc.

 

18 hours ago, Alturistix said:

So maybe something like where you first have to ask the Jarl for the right to divorce? So then the scripts wouldn't need to check whether the

No need for a divorce, Just add the quest objective/target be the last spouse you married. If you only married 1, you can still do the events, and they will play out with that spouse only, Could make the dialogue not specify now many weddings player has, but just how many times he's done this with your spouse(s)/you. Reminder Not repeatable quest, but quest line, First Quest > Second Quest > Third Quest >etc. Can't do Second Quest with out the first Quest.
Example :
First Quest as normal
Second Quest - Jarl : "You again, I'm not complaining, meet me again with your spouse at your house."
Third Quest - Jarl : "Again? I'm I didn't know better your into this."

Male/Spouse Version and also a Female/Player Person.
Male Version basically means Female Spouse is the one who has sex with Jarl
Female Version means Player is the one Jarl is having Sex with. If Spouse is Female they also join if Spouse is Male they watch.

Basically current option when Asking to register.

Edited April 13, 2025 by KazamaKiri