Rokabur Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 Finally got my Skyrim to load through MO2. NOW, on the road right after the Embershard mine before Riverwood, Skyrim just closes the window with no errors or window. I even took a small detour to the other side of the river around Annis's cabin (forget her name). Right as I hit a road again, Skyrim again closes with no error message. Load order Spoiler • 00 Skyrim.esm • 01 Update.esm • 02 Dawnguard.esm • 03 HearthFires.esm • 04 Dragonborn.esm • 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.15] • 06 Falskaar.esm • 07 Wyrmstooth.esp [Version 1.17] • 08 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm • 09 UndergroundBathhouse.esm • 0A SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] • 0B RaceCompatibility.esm • 0C Cerinian Race.esp • 0D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp • 0E Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4] • 0F LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp • 10 EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp • 11 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp • 12 RealShelter.esp • 13 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp • 14 UnlimitedEnchantments.esp • 15 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp • 16 moredragonlairs!.esp • 17 SMIM-Merged-All.esp • 18 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp • ++ WeightlessPotions.esp • 19 Mystic Condenser.esp • ++ Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp • ++ Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp • 1A Immersive Weapons.esp • 1B More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp [Version 5.7] • 1C WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp • 1D DBM_MoreInterestingLoot_Patch.esp • 1E DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp • 1F BDHagravenReplacer.esp • 20 heroeshideout.esp • 21 MissingApprentices.esp [Version 1.31] • 22 DA_Skyship.esp • 23 Animated Dragon Wings.esp • 24 Real Flying.esp • 25 DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp • 26 thordmoirai.esp • 27 ArcheryTrainingTargets.esp • 28 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp • 29 argoniansmore.esp • 2A SexLab Romance.esp • 2B BDBirds.esp • 2C BDBirdNPC.esp • 2D Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp • 2E HomeOfTheHeroes.esp • 2F questrewardleveler.esp • 30 summersetisles.esp • 31 Sneak Tools.esp • 32 portal2mod.esp • 33 Marsh-Lily Follower.esp • 34 ajd_moreargonians.esp • ++ ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp • 35 WetandCold.esp • 36 WetandCold - Ashes.esp • 37 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp • 38 SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp • 39 FalskaarClouds.esp • ++ FalskaarDawnguard.esp • 3A Masaani.esp • ++ Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp • 3B NaliaArgoFollower.esp • 3C ub_tapestry.esp • 3D ub_invite_any_npc.esp • 3E StormWrathLightning.esp • 3F HeartBreaker.esp [Version 3.02] • 40 towHarvest.esp • 41 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp • 42 Mystic Condenser - Legendary - USLEEP Patch.esp • 43 Dr_Bandolier.esp • 44 SkyUI.esp • 45 LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp • 46 FNIS.esp • ++ Moss Rocks.esp • 47 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp • ++ SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp • 48 DeadlyMutilation.esp • 49 Argonian resist poison.esp • 4A The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp • 4B BAF - Dawnguard Version 2.0.esp • 4C BubblegumClub.esp • 4D Lusty.esp • 4E XPMSE.esp • 4F NudeYngvildSpirits.esp • 50 conigma-brokendreams.esp • 51 conigma-pyrocleave.esp • 52 Skullface-sheesh.esp • 53 lexiewolf.esp • 54 BAF - Full Version 2.0.esp • 55 DexenaFollower.esp • 56 Quimvee.esp • 57 lizardtail.esp • 58 My Home Is Your Home.esp • 59 conigma-gorefiendandhemoflow.esp • 5A Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp • 5B HavenBag.esp • 5C nakuma.esp • 5D ShinesWife.esp • 5E Keema.esp • 5F RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp • 60 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp • 61 skeletal dragons.esp • 62 shatanal.esp • 63 request romalisk.esp • 64 pepperidge.esp • 65 Orchaja Follower Mod.esp • 66 juliannadrake argonianfemalefighter.esp • ++ impatienceofasaint-markers.esp • 67 human sacrifice.esp • ++ PedssMannequinsFMArgonian.esp • 68 dragonrendhurts.esp • 69 crimsonquestmarkers.esp • 6A follower bog-lurker.esp • 6B DovahkiinSpeech.esp • 6C Instant Merchant.esp • 6D conigma-flamestopandneverburn.esp • 6E conigma-rainbow.esp • 6F conigma-cinderblazeandemberscorch.esp • 70 conigma-shiverstrike.esp • 71 conigma-overchargeandeverspark.esp • 72 conigma-blooddread.esp • 73 conigma-agonyandmisery.esp • 74 Felicity.esp • 75 FNISspells.esp • 76 blooddragontest.esp • ++ arvakskull-marker.esp • 77 Realistic Legendary Damage.esp • 78 BDBirdDigiFeet.esp • 79 Cerinian Race - Follower.esp • 7A LtH_Argonian_Ria.esp • 7B SmartCast_1_0.esp [Version 1.0] • 7C HousecarlWhiterun.esp • 7D SkyCompleteLegendary.esp • 7E SkyCompleteFalskaar.esp • 7F SkyCompleteWyrmstooth.esp • 80 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp • 81 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp • 82 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp • 83 imp_helm_legend.esp • 84 ICH - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp • 85 DynamicDungeonLoot.esp • 86 DBM_CCOR_patch.esp • ++ DBM_DynamicDungeonLoot_Patch.esp • ++ DDLMoreInterestingLootPatch.esp • 87 DBM_MysticCondenser_Patch.esp • ++ DBM_WAFR Patch.esp • ++ LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp • 88 HarvestOverhaul.esp [Version 2.8.2] • 89 AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp • ++ NoDisarm.esp • ++ WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp • ++ WeightlessScrolls.esp • ++ WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp • ++ WeightlessFood.esp • 8A DragonPriestMaskJournal.esp • ++ WeightlessDragonClaws.esp • ++ WeightlessDragonBones.esp • ++ WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp • 8B HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp [Version 2.8.2] • ++ WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp • 8C APU_Automatic Perk Unlocking.esp • 8D CastingRegeneration.esp • 8E brawlbug-plugin.esp • 8F getSnowy.esp • ++ getSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.esp • ++ BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp • 90 Werewolf Duration Remover.esp • 91 Werewolf Revert Form.esp • ++ RSRainCOT.esp • ++ RSRain.esp • 92 RaceMenu.esp • 93 RaceMenuPlugin.esp • 94 DragonAspectToggle_DAT.esp • 95 RSPatch.esp Papyrus Log (only one I have from the crash) Papyrus.0.log
Seijin8 Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rokabur said: Finally got my Skyrim to load through MO2. NOW, on the road right after the Embershard mine before Riverwood, Skyrim just closes the window with no errors or window. I even took a small detour to the other side of the river around Annis's cabin (forget her name). Right as I hit a road again, Skyrim again closes with no error message. Load order Reveal hidden contents • 00 Skyrim.esm • 01 Update.esm • 02 Dawnguard.esm • 03 HearthFires.esm • 04 Dragonborn.esm • 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.15] • 06 Falskaar.esm • 07 Wyrmstooth.esp [Version 1.17] • 08 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm • 09 UndergroundBathhouse.esm • 0A SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] • 0B RaceCompatibility.esm • 0C Cerinian Race.esp • 0D Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp • 0E Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4] • 0F LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp • 10 EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp • 11 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp • 12 RealShelter.esp • 13 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp • 14 UnlimitedEnchantments.esp • 15 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp • 16 moredragonlairs!.esp • 17 SMIM-Merged-All.esp • 18 SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp • ++ WeightlessPotions.esp • 19 Mystic Condenser.esp • ++ Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp • ++ Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp • 1A Immersive Weapons.esp • 1B More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp [Version 5.7] • 1C WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp • 1D DBM_MoreInterestingLoot_Patch.esp • 1E DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp • 1F BDHagravenReplacer.esp • 20 heroeshideout.esp • 21 MissingApprentices.esp [Version 1.31] • 22 DA_Skyship.esp • 23 Animated Dragon Wings.esp • 24 Real Flying.esp • 25 DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp • 26 thordmoirai.esp • 27 ArcheryTrainingTargets.esp • 28 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp • 29 argoniansmore.esp • 2A SexLab Romance.esp • 2B BDBirds.esp • 2C BDBirdNPC.esp • 2D Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp • 2E HomeOfTheHeroes.esp • 2F questrewardleveler.esp • 30 summersetisles.esp • 31 Sneak Tools.esp • 32 portal2mod.esp • 33 Marsh-Lily Follower.esp • 34 ajd_moreargonians.esp • ++ ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp • 35 WetandCold.esp • 36 WetandCold - Ashes.esp • 37 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp • 38 SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp • 39 FalskaarClouds.esp • ++ FalskaarDawnguard.esp • 3A Masaani.esp • ++ Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp • 3B NaliaArgoFollower.esp • 3C ub_tapestry.esp • 3D ub_invite_any_npc.esp • 3E StormWrathLightning.esp • 3F HeartBreaker.esp [Version 3.02] • 40 towHarvest.esp • 41 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp • 42 Mystic Condenser - Legendary - USLEEP Patch.esp • 43 Dr_Bandolier.esp • 44 SkyUI.esp • 45 LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp • 46 FNIS.esp • ++ Moss Rocks.esp • 47 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp • ++ SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp • 48 DeadlyMutilation.esp • 49 Argonian resist poison.esp • 4A The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp • 4B BAF - Dawnguard Version 2.0.esp • 4C BubblegumClub.esp • 4D Lusty.esp • 4E XPMSE.esp • 4F NudeYngvildSpirits.esp • 50 conigma-brokendreams.esp • 51 conigma-pyrocleave.esp • 52 Skullface-sheesh.esp • 53 lexiewolf.esp • 54 BAF - Full Version 2.0.esp • 55 DexenaFollower.esp • 56 Quimvee.esp • 57 lizardtail.esp • 58 My Home Is Your Home.esp • 59 conigma-gorefiendandhemoflow.esp • 5A Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp • 5B HavenBag.esp • 5C nakuma.esp • 5D ShinesWife.esp • 5E Keema.esp • 5F RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp • 60 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp • 61 skeletal dragons.esp • 62 shatanal.esp • 63 request romalisk.esp • 64 pepperidge.esp • 65 Orchaja Follower Mod.esp • 66 juliannadrake argonianfemalefighter.esp • ++ impatienceofasaint-markers.esp • 67 human sacrifice.esp • ++ PedssMannequinsFMArgonian.esp • 68 dragonrendhurts.esp • 69 crimsonquestmarkers.esp • 6A follower bog-lurker.esp • 6B DovahkiinSpeech.esp • 6C Instant Merchant.esp • 6D conigma-flamestopandneverburn.esp • 6E conigma-rainbow.esp • 6F conigma-cinderblazeandemberscorch.esp • 70 conigma-shiverstrike.esp • 71 conigma-overchargeandeverspark.esp • 72 conigma-blooddread.esp • 73 conigma-agonyandmisery.esp • 74 Felicity.esp • 75 FNISspells.esp • 76 blooddragontest.esp • ++ arvakskull-marker.esp • 77 Realistic Legendary Damage.esp • 78 BDBirdDigiFeet.esp • 79 Cerinian Race - Follower.esp • 7A LtH_Argonian_Ria.esp • 7B SmartCast_1_0.esp [Version 1.0] • 7C HousecarlWhiterun.esp • 7D SkyCompleteLegendary.esp • 7E SkyCompleteFalskaar.esp • 7F SkyCompleteWyrmstooth.esp • 80 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp • 81 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp • 82 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp • 83 imp_helm_legend.esp • 84 ICH - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp • 85 DynamicDungeonLoot.esp • 86 DBM_CCOR_patch.esp • ++ DBM_DynamicDungeonLoot_Patch.esp • ++ DDLMoreInterestingLootPatch.esp • 87 DBM_MysticCondenser_Patch.esp • ++ DBM_WAFR Patch.esp • ++ LFox Pickpocketing Chance Caps at 100.esp • 88 HarvestOverhaul.esp [Version 2.8.2] • 89 AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp • ++ NoDisarm.esp • ++ WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp • ++ WeightlessScrolls.esp • ++ WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp • ++ WeightlessFood.esp • 8A DragonPriestMaskJournal.esp • ++ WeightlessDragonClaws.esp • ++ WeightlessDragonBones.esp • ++ WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp • 8B HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp [Version 2.8.2] • ++ WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp • 8C APU_Automatic Perk Unlocking.esp • 8D CastingRegeneration.esp • 8E brawlbug-plugin.esp • 8F getSnowy.esp • ++ getSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.esp • ++ BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp • 90 Werewolf Duration Remover.esp • 91 Werewolf Revert Form.esp • ++ RSRainCOT.esp • ++ RSRain.esp • 92 RaceMenu.esp • 93 RaceMenuPlugin.esp • 94 DragonAspectToggle_DAT.esp • 95 RSPatch.esp Papyrus Log (only one I have from the crash) Papyrus.0.log 169.12 kB · 0 downloads Try entering the game, in the console, type: coc whiterun Which should stick you at the crossroads down the hill from Riverwood. Head towards Riverwood and see if it crashes. (Trying to determine if it is just a riverwood-specific crash, or if it is hitting more settlements/towns than that)
Rokabur Posted August 28, 2019 Author Posted August 28, 2019 Did the coc whiterun, soon as I got near the bridge near Riverwood, the window just closed. I tried going to Whiterun and everything was just fine.
RohZima Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Seijin8 said: "stick you at the crossroads" Oh great, now i've got that shit "see you at the crossroads" song in my head To answer the post, usually this type of issue is some nif that loads that is corrupt or not correctly formatted that causes CTD It could be an armor or weapon of an NPC or anything. Could try disabling recently added mods to test...
Seijin8 Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Rokabur said: Did the coc whiterun, soon as I got near the bridge near Riverwood, the window just closed. I tried going to Whiterun and everything was just fine. As RohZima said, that could be a corrupted nif, but IMO it is more likely an incompatible mod affecting Riverwood. This could be the result of bad AI packages or a damaged Navmesh as well. If I had to guess, you have two mods that are fighting in Riverwood, and it is causing your crash. EDIT: Nothing in your load order screams incompatible to me, though I don't know all of those mods. What Mod Manager are you using?
Grey Cloud Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, RohZima said: Oh great, now i've got that shit "see you at the crossroads" song in my head Try 'Crossroad Blues' by Robert Johnson.
Rokabur Posted August 28, 2019 Author Posted August 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Seijin8 said: As RohZima said, that could be a corrupted nif, but IMO it is more likely an incompatible mod affecting Riverwood. This could be the result of bad AI packages or a damaged Navmesh as well. If I had to guess, you have two mods that are fighting in Riverwood, and it is causing your crash. EDIT: Nothing in your load order screams incompatible to me, though I don't know all of those mods. What Mod Manager are you using? I only use Mod Organizer 2 along with Wrye Bash for the Bashed Patch.
Seijin8 Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Rokabur said: I only use Mod Organizer 2 along with Wrye Bash for the Bashed Patch. Okay, good. Makes diagnosis easier. My suggestion: 1) Copy your mod profile. 2) Disable everything in your right pane except for the Offical DLCs 3) start game 4) from menu screen, open console and type "coc whiterun" like before. 5) Run up the hill, see if it crashes If it doesn't crash, then it probably isn't a mesh/nif issue (that would be my bet, but best to check) Assuming this works, 6) Enable the front half of the mods in the right pane (pick an arbitrary mod number and go) Start game, coc whiterun, go up the hill and see if it crashes. If it crashes, disable half the enabled mods and repeat. If it doesn't crash, enable half the remining mods and repeat. Do this until you can isolate which mod is the problem. Once located, you can use xEdit to find what it is conflicting with, as there may be a way to patch the issue.
Rokabur Posted August 29, 2019 Author Posted August 29, 2019 Hmm... seems like it might be multiple mods causing the crash. Enabled the first half of the mods (93) and still got the crash, this time the crash was AFTER crossing the bridge. On chance I disabled the Moss Rock mod/patch, this time I was able to enter Riverwood from running up the hill from coc Whiterun. But when when I ran through Riverwood and went towards the 3 Guardian Stones, Skyrim closed on me at around the same spot when running the normal way after Helgan.
Rokabur Posted August 31, 2019 Author Posted August 31, 2019 Now I quite remember why I left Skyrim all those years ago. Found a mod that was causing Skyrim to close when I was between the Embershard Mine and Riverwood (turned out to be a follower mod). With that mod turned off I ran all the way to the Guardian Stones with no crashing. I figured that was it, turned all the mods back on, rebuilt the Bashed Patch, and Skyrim closes outside Riverwood again.
Rokabur Posted September 18, 2019 Author Posted September 18, 2019 About ready to just uninstall Skyrim and all the mods installed in MO2. So far I've found: Dominions More Argonians-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60145 More Draconic Dragon Aspect-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54306 Immersive Armors (but seems to be JUST the texture .esp)-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19733 Impatience of a Saint-markers is from the Steam Workshops. Moss Rocks is from The Ruffled Feather Misc. download from STEP-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11 Weapon and Armor Fixes Remade was causing Skyrim to crash partway up the hill from coc Whiterun-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34093
Grey Cloud Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 How do you know it is those mods? That area is notorious for causing CTDs.
Psalam Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 I think you've received some really good advice thus far. When I had the problem you are describing my issue was with the wolves that appear between Embershard and Riverwood. My point is that the bad .nif can be a LOT of different things.
Rokabur Posted September 18, 2019 Author Posted September 18, 2019 8 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: How do you know it is those mods? That area is notorious for causing CTDs. Earlier advice was to turn on a few mods at a time and try going through the area. While going down the list in MO2, each of those mods listed caused Skyrim to close. Sad thing is that only the Weapon and Armor Fixes remade is new and the other mods were working just fine years ago.
Psalam Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, Rokabur said: Earlier advice was to turn on a few mods at a time and try going through the area. While going down the list in MO2, each of those mods listed caused Skyrim to close. Sad thing is that only the Weapon and Armor Fixes remade is new and the other mods were working just fine years ago. I recently (within the last year) updated every mod I could in Skyrim. I was surprised to find that CT77's replacement armor mod had undergone an upgrade. The author mentioned (and I'm no expert but ChronoTrigger is) that much has changed in terms of developing meshes and textures. You may find that is what has happened to your old mods.
Rokabur Posted September 18, 2019 Author Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Psalam said: I recently (within the last year) updated every mod I could in Skyrim. I was surprised to find that CT77's replacement armor mod had undergone an upgrade. The author mentioned (and I'm no expert but ChronoTrigger is) that much has changed in terms of developing meshes and textures. You may find that is what has happened to your old mods. I know, its just a pita since I LIKED the mods I linked, especially Immersive Armors, Impatience of a Saint (those quests in the Soul Cairn are a MAJOR pita without markers) and More Draconic Dragon Aspect. No idea what I'll have to do to 'fix' the mods (if possible) once I work out all the ones causing the crashes.
Grey Cloud Posted September 18, 2019 Posted September 18, 2019 If it is a mod then why does it only CTD at that spot? The problem is something in that area. I occasionally have trouble with that area and I've never heard of most of the mods you've mentioned. Some months ago I was running towards Riverwood near the dog-leg bend when I CTDed. I may have had a dozen or more followers in tow, can't remember. Reloaded and walked down without problem. A few weeks ago coming out of Riverwood went to the Guardian stones got a blessing and went down to the hunter's camp on the lake shore. Went to walk back up the slope to the road and the game locked solid. A few reloads, a CTD and lock ups later I gave up and rolled back to the save at Embershard and did the Guardian stone but didn't bother with the camp and everything was okay. I did have a lot of followers with me at that time. Don't usually have a problem with the hunter's camp as I usually approach it either from across the lake or from the road near where the HF house is. Problems around there crop up in tech support on a regular basis.
Rokabur Posted September 18, 2019 Author Posted September 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: If it is a mod then why does it only CTD at that spot? The problem is something in that area. I occasionally have trouble with that area and I've never heard of most of the mods you've mentioned. Some months ago I was running towards Riverwood near the dog-leg bend when I CTDed. I may have had a dozen or more followers in tow, can't remember. Reloaded and walked down without problem. A few weeks ago coming out of Riverwood went to the Guardian stones got a blessing and went down to the hunter's camp on the lake shore. Went to walk back up the slope to the road and the game locked solid. A few reloads, a CTD and lock ups later I gave up and rolled back to the save at Embershard and did the Guardian stone but didn't bother with the camp and everything was okay. I did have a lot of followers with me at that time. Don't usually have a problem with the hunter's camp as I usually approach it either from across the lake or from the road near where the HF house is. Problems around there crop up in tech support on a regular basis. I have no idea why just that area. When those mods were active Skyrim will crash upon entering. Even worse is that, after the 2 week break from SKyrim since I can only deal with it in chunks, mods that were fine 2 weeks ago are now causing Skyrim to crash in that area when active.
GenioMaestro Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Rokabur said: Dominions More Argonians-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60145 More Draconic Dragon Aspect-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54306 Immersive Armors (but seems to be JUST the texture .esp)-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19733 Impatience of a Saint-markers is from the Steam Workshops. Moss Rocks is from The Ruffled Feather Misc. download from STEP-https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11 Weapon and Armor Fixes Remade was causing Skyrim to crash partway up the hill from coc Whiterun- 4 hours ago, Rokabur said: each of those mods listed caused Skyrim to close It is practically impossible to have a similar problem in 6 different mods, specially when some of them have millons of downloads. One of them may be wrong and generate CTD. Two of them may need a compatibility patch to work. But close the game without any error message when you activate any of the six? Having the same problem in the same place with 6 different mods? That can not be a problem of the mods. Do you have the stability tools? SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB in BOOST Mode ENB is not strictly necessary if you have 4 GB of Vram or more. Crash Fixes is strictly necessary because it is the only one that solves the String Table Bug. But I imagine that your problem is in the INI files because this line of your log file tells me that you have manually modified your INI files: [08/28/2019 - 03:05:26AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 67108864 (max total) Delete your INI files. In MO they are inside the profile folder. Launch the game, check that it works and see if the problem is solved. If the problems persist or the game looks bad, download BethIni to optimize your INI files and try again.
Rokabur Posted September 19, 2019 Author Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, GenioMaestro said: It is practically impossible to have a similar problem in 6 different mods, specially when some of them have millons of downloads. One of them may be wrong and generate CTD. Two of them may need a compatibility patch to work. But close the game without any error message when you activate any of the six? Having the same problem in the same place with 6 different mods? That can not be a problem of the mods. Do you have the stability tools? SKSE Memory Patch Crash Fixes 12 ENB in BOOST Mode ENB is not strictly necessary if you have 4 GB of Vram or more. Crash Fixes is strictly necessary because it is the only one that solves the String Table Bug. But I imagine that your problem is in the INI files because this line of your log file tells me that you have manually modified your INI files: [08/28/2019 - 03:05:26AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 67108864 (max total) Delete your INI files. In MO they are inside the profile folder. Launch the game, check that it works and see if the problem is solved. If the problems persist or the game looks bad, download BethIni to optimize your INI files and try again. Installed Crsh Fixes 12, used BethINI, downloaded the 3 ENB files STEP indicates for just ENBoost. Reduced my mods to just the first 125 entries and using 'coc whiterun' at the title screen causes Skyrim to close without loading (I remember this exact same thing happening last time I tried to use JUST ENBoost). Edit-Deleted the ENB files and 'coc whiterun' loads now, slight problem is my mouse AND entire keyboard (except for the ` key) are COMPLETELY disabled.
GenioMaestro Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Rokabur said: Installed Crsh Fixes 12, used BethINI, downloaded the 3 ENB files STEP indicates for just ENBoost. Reduced my mods to just the first 125 entries and using 'coc whiterun' at the title screen causes Skyrim to close without loading (I remember this exact same thing happening last time I tried to use JUST ENBoost). Edit-Deleted the ENB files and 'coc whiterun' loads now, slight problem is my mouse AND entire keyboard (except for the ` key) are COMPLETELY disabled. If you have Win10 you can have some problems for make works ENB because Win10 are not officialy supported by ENB. Take a look to this post: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3089504-fix-for-skyrim-crashing-instantly-with-enb-on-windows-10/?p=56131491 Is near two years old but normally that instructions solve the problems of ENB in Win10. As i already said, ENB is not estricly necesary if your video card have 4 GB of Vram or more. If you have a new machine with Win10 I presume you have a new video card with 6 or 8 GB of Vram. Addiding ENB to your Skyrim installation, probably, and i say probably, can not solve your exact problem. But is recomended install ENB and configure it correctly because solve others problems in the game and, maybe, can solve your exact problem. But if you have an OLD video card with 2 GB of Vram is strictly obligatory install ENB. Adittionally, be sure you are not faulting of a MASTER before launch the game. The normal instructions are: If you have CTD before the main menu, probably, you are missing a master. If you have CTD when click New Game, probably, you have too many animations in FNIS. If you have CTD when click Load Game, probably, the changes in the load order invalidate the savegame. I recomend you make test always in a NEW GAME ussing Alternate Start until you locate and solve the problem. Is NOT recomended use the coc console command from the main menu. That make a special start of the game that is not exactly equal to the start made when you click NEW GAME. Use Alternate Start for make a fast start whitout the normal intro and select start the game in Whiterun Inn or Baned Mare Inn for make fast test of the problematic zone. If your mouse and keyboard not works, probably, are caused because you have a game controler or gamepad conected to your machine. If you not have any of them can be caused because the game incorrectly detect a device as gamepad. You can try follow the instuction in https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/215439774851080876/ for manually disable the gamepad.
Rokabur Posted September 19, 2019 Author Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said: If you have Win10 you can have some problems for make works ENB because Win10 are not officialy supported by ENB. Take a look to this post: https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3089504-fix-for-skyrim-crashing-instantly-with-enb-on-windows-10/?p=56131491 Is near two years old but normally that instructions solve the problems of ENB in Win10. As i already said, ENB is not estricly necesary if your video card have 4 GB of Vram or more. If you have a new machine with Win10 I presume you have a new video card with 6 or 8 GB of Vram. Addiding ENB to your Skyrim installation, probably, and i say probably, can not solve your exact problem. But is recomended install ENB and configure it correctly because solve others problems in the game and, maybe, can solve your exact problem. But if you have an OLD video card with 2 GB of Vram is strictly obligatory install ENB. Adittionally, be sure you are not faulting of a MASTER before launch the game. The normal instructions are: If you have CTD before the main menu, probably, you are missing a master. If you have CTD when click New Game, probably, you have too many animations in FNIS. If you have CTD when click Load Game, probably, the changes in the load order invalidate the savegame. I recomend you make test always in a NEW GAME ussing Alternate Start until you locate and solve the problem. Is NOT recomended use the coc console command from the main menu. That make a special start of the game that is not exactly equal to the start made when you click NEW GAME. Use Alternate Start for make a fast start whitout the normal intro and select start the game in Whiterun Inn or Baned Mare Inn for make fast test of the problematic zone. If your mouse and keyboard not works, probably, are caused because you have a game controler or gamepad conected to your machine. If you not have any of them can be caused because the game incorrectly detect a device as gamepad. You can try follow the instuction in https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/215439774851080876/ for manually disable the gamepad. Still using the much better Windows 7. I was using coc cause for a while when I tried to load a save Skyrim would close on me. How and where do I add the SKSE memory patch? When I try to start a new game I get an error about the memory patch not being active. It said that if you're using MO to add -forcesteamload to the SKSE launch option but no idea what to do. And I forgot that when you delete the Skyrim INIs and get the vanilla ones, that it defaults to the controller if one is plugged in.
GenioMaestro Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, Rokabur said: I was using coc cause for a while when I tried to load a save Skyrim would close on me. That is not the correct way. That is another of the solutions extended by the comunity and used by hundreds and hundreds of player from years ago, but that always was incorrect. The game make a diferent process for start the game when you use coc from the main menu and not always give exactly the same result than start a new game from the main menu. Is much better start a new game and then load the normal savegame. But for that you need Alternate Start or a similar mod that skip the normal and borring start intro created by Beth. Aditionally, in 2016 a user locate the problem and publish a mod called Continue Game No Crash for solve the problem. But that version has been invalidated by Load Game CTD Fix and, if you continue having problems for load your normal savegame from the main menu, you must install it. 58 minutes ago, Rokabur said: How and where do I add the SKSE memory patch? The SKSE Memory Patch is not more than a simple INI file for SKSE but solve a lot of problems in the game. You can download the mod and install it with any mod manager. 58 minutes ago, Rokabur said: I try to start a new game I get an error about the memory patch not being active. It said that if you're using MO to add -forcesteamload to the SKSE launch option but no idea what to do. You only need edit the executable list in MO and add -forcesteamloader in the Argument line.
Rokabur Posted September 19, 2019 Author Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said: That is not the correct way. That is another of the solutions extended by the comunity and used by hundreds and hundreds of player from years ago, but that always was incorrect. The game make a diferent process for start the game when you use coc from the main menu and not always give exactly the same result than start a new game from the main menu. Is much better start a new game and then load the normal savegame. But for that you need Alternate Start or a similar mod that skip the normal and borring start intro created by Beth. Aditionally, in 2016 a user locate the problem and publish a mod called Continue Game No Crash for solve the problem. But that version has been invalidated by Load Game CTD Fix and, if you continue having problems for load your normal savegame from the main menu, you must install it. The SKSE Memory Patch is not more than a simple INI file for SKSE but solve a lot of problems in the game. You can download the mod and install it with any mod manager. You only need edit the executable list in MO and add -forcesteamloader in the Argument line. After my last post I found out the manual way to add the SKSE memory patch, and started using that Alternative Start. Pretty much turns out the missing memory patch is what was causing all the crashes. I enabled my entire load order, rebuilt the Bashed Patch and not a single crash around Embershard Mine now. All of this work and effort because of a missing INI edit.
GenioMaestro Posted September 19, 2019 Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Rokabur said: After my last post I found out the manual way to add the SKSE memory patch, and started using that Alternative Start. Pretty much turns out the missing memory patch is what was causing all the crashes. I enabled my entire load order, rebuilt the Bashed Patch and not a single crash around Embershard Mine now. All of this work and effort because of a missing INI edit. That is why we recommend all the stability tools. The game needs a specific configuration to be stable. It is a problem of the LE version and that is why many users have many CTDs and strange problems with the game. A bad configuration in the base game, the lack of a tool or an incorrect value in a parameter can generate many strange problems. In your case, probably, these modifications consume all the available space in the memory blocks and when the game runs out of memory it does CTD. Removing those mods frees up enough memory to not do the CTD. The SKSE memory patch only increases the size of the memory blocks and that simple operation solves many strange problems and CTDs in the game.
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