storky17 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 i uninstalled all my mods then reinstalled all the reqs including the newest Jcon. on load i get CTD i original thought it was one of my other mods but it wasn't any help will be welcome load order wasnt a problem creature framework requires j containers but the newest one causes CTD and the older versions cause the jcon file out of date or not installed. things will be very broken
Aylis Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 And here both mods are working fine and cause no CTD. See, not much help without context... With that huge amount of informations you're giving us how are we supposed to assist you? Besides it can still be the loadorder but, again, how are we supposed to make sure it isn't?
storky17 Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Kythana said: And here both mods are working fine and cause no CTD. See, not much help without context... With that huge amount of informations you're giving us how are we supposed to assist you? Besides it can still be the loadorder but, again, how are we supposed to make sure it isn't? sorry i was frustrated at the time. when i use the newest jcon file (4.19) it causes CTD on load. i use NMM due to not understanding MO2 enough. when i used an older version of jcon (4,17) it did not cause the CTD, however the Creature frame work did not recognize it. stating "Your installed version of JContainers is inconpatible with Creature Framework, or you do not have JContainers installed. Things will be Very Broken" the load order i had at the time was the standard game with dlc then Sex lab Sexlab aroused Creature frame work with their requirements skyui skse64 racemenue papirus util the bare bones. i am able to run everything else with out any bug or glitches this is my current load order # This file is used by the game to keep track of your downloaded content. # Please do not modify this file. *Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm *Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp *CBBE.esl *SexLab.esm *SexLabAroused.esm *ApachiiHairFemales.esm *ApachiiHair.esm *Devious Devices - Assets.esm *Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm *Alpine Forest of Whiterun Valley.esp *Imp's More Complex Needs.esp *Campfire.esm *ZaZAnimationPack.esm *SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm *Devious Devices - Integration.esm *Devious Devices - Expansion.esm *SkyUI_SE.esp *Joy of Perspective.esp *Book Covers Skyrim.esp *Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp *SOSRaceMenu.esp *FNIS.esp *FNISSexyMove.esp *RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp *12FemaleBrows.esp *SexLab Inflation Framework.esp *RaceMenu.esp *XPMSE.esp *RaceMenuPlugin.esp *TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp *MilkModNEW.esp *MilkModNEW CF.esp *MilkModNEW HF.esp *MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp *MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp *MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp *SexLabDefeat.esp *SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp *SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp *UIExtensions.esp JKs Skyrim.esp *zzEstrus.esp *Dawnguard Delayed - Level 20.esp *Fertility Mode.esp *noguardhelmets.esp *SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp *SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp *SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp *SLSO.esp *SLAnimLoader.esp *Toggle Compass.esp *Visible Favorited Gear.esp *VioLens SE.esp *SlaveTats.esp *IndividualShoutCooldowns.esp *sr_FillHerUp.esp *Coins of Tamriel V2 SSE Edition.esp *TW3MO.esp *Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp *Schlongs of Skyrim.esp *Obsidian Weathers.esp *LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp *Skyrim Bridges.esp *Captured Dreams.esp *Point The Way.esp *SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp *OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp *JK's Riverwood.esp *Inigo.esp *Deviously Cursed Loot.esp *Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp *YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp *SPERG-SSE.esp *SPERG_USSEPPatch.esp *Immersive Patrols II.esp *SpellResearch.esp *Frostfall.esp *SexLab-Parasites.esp *TentaCave.esp *FallOfTheDragonborn_SSE.esp *dvmb.esp *icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp *Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp *Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp *Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp *Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp *AMatterOfTime.esp *AnimatedParasites.esp *Animated Dragon WingsSE.esp *Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp *Real Flying.esp *SPERG_ImmersiveArmorsPatch.esp *MoonlightTalesMCM.esp *NoRadialBlur.esp *CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp *SL Deadly Drain.esp *AngrimApprentice.esp *SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp *SOS - Shop.esp *Lucien.esp *SexLab Romance.esp *BreezehomeBasement.esp *NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp *Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp *FireBurns.esp *SPERG_ApocalypsePatch.esp *SPERG_PhenderixPatch.esp *NoSpells.esp *PeopleAreStrangers.esp *reflection-levelupmessages.esp *RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp *IMCN - Hearthfire.esp *IMCN - Dragonborn.esp *IMCN - Dawnguard.esp *DW.esp *JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp *Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp *CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp *CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp *CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp *Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp *CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp *CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp *Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp *Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp *Open Cities Skyrim.esp JKs Skyrim_Open Cities_Patch.esp *Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp *CWIOCSSEPatch.esp *YOT - Frostfall Module.esp YOT - iNeed.esp *YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp *YOT - CoWI.esp *YOT - Apocalypse.esp *YOT - Andromeda.esp YOT - Wet and Cold.esp YOT - LOTD.esp *YOT - Sacrosanct.esp *YOT - Reflection - Level Up Messages.esp ______________ I use a joke :its bad really bad / any help will be appercate any more advise (stopping short of killing myself)
storky17 Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 this was from loot i moved the milk mod econemy do to it needing pumps prior to sandbox
Aylis Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Ouch, that loadorder is quite messed up. USSEP should always be the last master (with DynDOLOD the only exception to that rule). Although i don't use a few of your mods i'll copy some stuff here. Install in that order (if you don't use something in the second group just overlook it) and it should work, then add the other mods you got from here at LL one or two at a time and retest (and don't forget to rerun FNIS). DLL Plugin Loader (Is NOT needed!) ENB Helper SE JContainers SE SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 Plugin) Papyrus Extender for SSEFuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice Sexlabs Framework PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions Devious Devices Assets (DDa) Devious Devices Integration (DDi) Devious Devices Expansion (DDx) DD Hotfix DDi DLL SLAL Sexlab Defeat (Configure this one as the LAST mod in the MCM) SexLab Aroused Sexlab Inflation Framework Creature Framework (Scriptheavy) Creature Schlongs More Nasty Creatures Texture Canine MNC SexLab Aroused Creatures Estrus For Skyrim SE Estrus Alternate Sounds (Oldrim but works in SE.) Estrus Chaurus for SE 4.34 SE SexLab Parasites - Kyne's Blessing (April 2019) Animated Parasites SE 0.1.5.2 (Download the one without HDT)Dripping when Aroused SexLab Dialogues Sexlab Attraction Sexlab Eager NPC's SE (SLEN) Dangerous Nights (Oldrim but works in SE) Arousal Based MatchMaker Billy's SLAL Animations SLAL Animations by Leito ZAZ CBBE SE Fertility Mode (Rec) Fertility Mode - SexLab Patch Egg Factory SSE (Scriptheavy) Sexlab Horrible Harassment Expansion SE SexLab Light me up All these work together and cause no issues and, as i said before, ignore the ones you don't want to use.
jaeos Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 @Kythana Wasn't there a problem with one or two mods having jcontainers built in that were lower in load order (MNC and violens comes to mind) causing the "new" jcon to be ignored and the old one loaded? @storky17MO2 really is the better tools of the two. look on youtube for Gamerspoets. they have a whole series on install cleaning with xedit (new and old versions) loot, installing mods, installing crap mods (improperly packaged). and Since you have the original files all downloaded into a folder, you can actually just move them to the downloads of MO and done. then just install them in the order kythana listed and you don't even need to use loot.
storky17 Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jaeos said: @Kythana Wasn't there a problem with one or two mods having jcontainers built in that were lower in load order (MNC and violens comes to mind) causing the "new" jcon to be ignored and the old one loaded? @storky17MO2 really is the better tools of the two. look on youtube for Gamerspoets. they have a whole series on install cleaning with xedit (new and old versions) loot, installing mods, installing crap mods (improperly packaged). and Since you have the original files all downloaded into a folder, you can actually just move them to the downloads of MO and done. then just install them in the order kythana listed and you don't even need to use loot. thanks ill try it second. ive probably watch his toturiels for hows though mostly for the install and set up ps forgot to add this but i do have MO2 installed how ever its not linked
storky17 Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Kythana said: Ouch, that loadorder is quite messed up. USSEP should always be the last master (with DynDOLOD the only exception to that rule). Although i don't use a few of your mods i'll copy some stuff here. Install in that order (if you don't use something in the second group just overlook it) and it should work, then add the other mods you got from here at LL one or two at a time and retest (and don't forget to rerun FNIS). DLL Plugin Loader (Is NOT needed!) ENB Helper SE JContainers SE SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 Plugin) Papyrus Extender for SSEFuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice Sexlabs Framework PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions Devious Devices Assets (DDa) Devious Devices Integration (DDi) Devious Devices Expansion (DDx) DD Hotfix DDi DLL SLAL Sexlab Defeat (Configure this one as the LAST mod in the MCM) SexLab Aroused Sexlab Inflation Framework Creature Framework (Scriptheavy) Creature Schlongs More Nasty Creatures Texture Canine MNC 8.12 MB · 3,995 downloads SexLab Aroused Creatures Estrus For Skyrim SE Estrus Alternate Sounds (Oldrim but works in SE.) Estrus Chaurus for SE 4.34 SE SexLab Parasites - Kyne's Blessing (April 2019) Animated Parasites SE 0.1.5.2 (Download the one without HDT)Dripping when Aroused SexLab Dialogues Sexlab Attraction Sexlab Eager NPC's SE (SLEN) Dangerous Nights (Oldrim but works in SE) Arousal Based MatchMaker Billy's SLAL Animations SLAL Animations by Leito ZAZ CBBE SE Fertility Mode (Rec) Fertility Mode - SexLab Patch Egg Factory SSE (Scriptheavy) Sexlab Horrible Harassment Expansion SE Dibella Sisterhood (get the correct file!) Dibella Sisterhood Sisters (get the correct file!)Sisterhood of Dibella CBBE Bodyslide Files (get the correct file!) SexLab Light me up All these work together and cause no issues and, as i said before, ignore the ones you don't want to use. Thanks mate for the help truly. ONE MORE THING IS THERE a rule set i should follow when messing with the load order in the future cause if this was my problem for following loot id love to kill loot but sadly i can not.
storky17 Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 update disabled all mods clean slate. followed the order loaded up a new game and immedate CTD happens with out the frame work in as well
jaeos Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 6 hours ago, storky17 said: thanks ill try it second. ive probably watch his toturiels for hows though mostly for the install and set up ps forgot to add this but i do have MO2 installed how ever its not linked not linked? as in linked to nexus? under the wrench and screwdriver is a nexus tab, there is a button on the page to link to nexus. it will open a nexus page asking if you want to link MO2 to nexus. you confirm and done. Here is my mod load order in MO2 left pane (right pane is pretty close to this. NOTE: it reads bottom up. IE mods 1,2,3, (original dlc show at the bottom) Spoiler modlist.txt.2019_06_26_04_58_09
jaeos Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 5 hours ago, storky17 said: update disabled all mods clean slate. followed the order loaded up a new game and immedate CTD happens with out the frame work in as well verify local files in steam and make sure all the skyrim files are not borked
jaeos Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 5 hours ago, storky17 said: update disabled all mods clean slate. followed the order loaded up a new game and immedate CTD happens with out the frame work in as well immediate CTD is missing master or texture (i think) Ill ask @Kythanato confirm or not.
Aylis Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, jaeos said: immediate CTD is missing master or texture (i think) Ill ask @Kythanato confirm or not. It usually is a missing/broken/incompatible master.
storky17 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 i went through with a clean install deleted everything and only installed jcon's requirements and it caused ctd there i also too the files out manually and added them to their respective folders same result. im adding the file that causes the CTD uhhhhh........ no clue on why its happening JContainers SE-16495-4-1-9-1560655362.7z
jaeos Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 @KythanaCould this be the issue with dpsyle getting a ctd as well?
Aylis Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 Possible. The big question is why don't i run into the same issues? ? I mean, i should too as i run the same software, got a relatively weak system and Win10 (which is more Beta than an OS) on top of it. I'd say i got a lot of factors here that would make a failure on my side even more likely. I've been rechecking everything several times now and i have no answer why it happens for some. A corrupted download is a possibility, but thats unlikely. Perhaps it is a driver for hardware (for HDD/SSD) that somehow interferes, but thats even more unlikely. I'm drawing a blank here...
storky17 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 IS IT POSSIBLE TO SEND YOUR DOWNLOAD. IF IT IS MY SIDE THAT'D MEAN A PROBLEM OCCORS WHEN SENDING IT TO ALASKA
storky17 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 huhhh ill check the mo2 version if its still a bust then ill completely nuked it huhhh..........?
storky17 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 Turns out i already had MO2 set up with my games i just havent used it .................... someone please reach through the screen and slap my head off....please!
storky17 Posted June 28, 2019 Author Posted June 28, 2019 Update whelp it currently looks like it was the priorty for JCON so here in the next hour i will determine if this problem is solved. NMM: i transfered all of my mods i had downloaded into a separate folder so the mods werent at fault twas NMM sadly all this head ache over porn huuuhhh O..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... uhhhhhh Moved everthing around got mo2 working now same problem
jaeos Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, storky17 said: initiating SCORCHED EARTH use a program called ccleaner by piriform (they have a free version) and fix your registry as well.
storky17 Posted June 29, 2019 Author Posted June 29, 2019 thanks for the tip the game just finished downloading
storky17 Posted June 30, 2019 Author Posted June 30, 2019 OKAY HERE IS THE FINAL TALLY 1: NUKED YOUR SKYRIM INSTALL 2: Use MO2( i used nmm prior NEVER going back) 3: Install base mods like Jcon fist and set Priority to the top on the left plane 4: dont let it get overwriten 5: use a sock n keep your key boards clean ?
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