guide Skyrim SE for Beginners - V 3.2.6 (Outdated)

[Aylis]

@jaeos

Pneunomia? Ouch! I almost died when i had that a few years ago... Thankfully i called an ambulance and didn't try to sleep my 'cold' off.

 

Be very careful 'til you're fully recovered.

[jaeos]

7 hours ago, Aylis said:

@jaeos

Pneunomia? Ouch! I almost died when i had that a few years ago... Thankfully i called an ambulance and didn't try to sleep my 'cold' off.

 

Be very careful 'til you're fully recovered.

6000+ ml drained in 4 days, Since i work construction the best we figure is i got slapped by 80+ year old bug from inside walls when we were removing sheetrock because i was an idiot and didn't wear a mask. And it kicked my ass all over skyrim ?

[remodel]

17 hours ago, jaeos said:

I'm not as bad but i just spent 2 weeks in the hospital over pneumonia (chest tube and attached to a vacuum port on the wall) and i still can't even take apart a damn chair without stopping and waiting for the chest to stop hurting, i feel ya.

 

On 1/18/2022 at 4:31 AM, Aylis said:

But i have to take it very slow. I clearly overestimated my recovery and that was a giant mistake on my side and threw me back quite a bit. So i'll stick around and read along for now. Anything else will have to wait as actually doing something (gaming is off limits too) is painful even with the painkillers.

Sure hope everyone gets better soon.

[jaeos]

4 hours ago, remodel said:

 

Sure hope everyone gets better soon.

I'm just glad i wasn't my usual self and actually told my other half to take me to the ER. I'm just dreading the final bill for mine. 

[remodel]

On 1/17/2022 at 11:43 PM, Jessica_Degurechaff said:

Got it fixed by removing  SkySA (the whole group) im going to try and use an older version of the mod to see if it works better since it used to not happen back a few months back.
But its def that mod, i saved a game while the bug was happening -and it keeps happening even if you close the game, re-do FNIS-Nemesis and open again-  uninstalled SkySA and re-run the tools and voila, bug gone and no more issues.

This has been happening in my tests a bunch.  When my PC gets stuck in 3rd person, the only thing that fixes it is a smelter animation. It has been driving me nuts.  I thought it was the SexLab free cam bug and have uselessly been futzing with it.  I tried ENABLEPLAYERCONTROLS, but that doesn't work.  Thanks for this.

 

Does an earlier version work?  I think I'll need something to replace it.

[Decopauge123]

16 hours ago, remodel said:

 

Sure hope everyone gets better soon.

Agreed, remodel, Agreed!

[jaeos]

5 hours ago, remodel said:

This has been happening in my tests a bunch.  When my PC gets stuck in 3rd person, the only thing that fixes it is a smelter animation. It has been driving me nuts.  I thought it was the SexLab free cam bug and have uselessly been futzing with it.  I tried ENABLEPLAYERCONTROLS, but that doesn't work.  Thanks for this.

 

Does an earlier version work?  I think I'll need something to replace it.

I know it might be a stupid question, but why not use improved camera, it was on the list forever and from what everyone is posting acts like it is doing better than what is listed now.

[remodel]

1 hour ago, jaeos said:

why not use improved camera, it was on the list forever and from what everyone is posting acts like it is doing better than what is listed now.

I just looked at that, thanks for the suggestion.  Since SkySA is optional, I'm inclined to disable the four pluggins.

[wollboi]

@Aylis@jaeos Hope you guys are doing okay. Goes for everybody, but especially these days.

 

Of note is that in AE, Improved Camera Beta 4 is basically not working. No feets in my cameras. Maybe just me, so if anybody is on AE without this issue please let me know.

 

Go to Bed finally got an update, so it's working much better in AE now.

 

Edit - Okay, nope, GtB is royally fucked now. Stay with the old derpy version.

Edited January 20, 2022 by wollboi

[jaeos]

3 hours ago, wollboi said:

@Aylis@jaeos Hope you guys are doing okay. Goes for everybody, but especially these days.

 

Of note is that in AE, Improved Camera Beta 4 is basically not working. No feets in my cameras. Maybe just me, so if anybody is on AE without this issue please let me know.

 

Go to Bed finally got an update, so it's working much better in AE now.

 

Edit - Okay, nope, GtB is royally fucked now. Stay with the old derpy version.

I decided to try and quit smoking or at least cut down to less than 20 a day, so they put me on happy pills for depression, because one of the side effects is decreased cravings,, which i AM guilty of.. 3 am runs to the grocery store for ice cream etc..

[Jessica_Degurechaff]

14 hours ago, remodel said:

This has been happening in my tests a bunch.  When my PC gets stuck in 3rd person, the only thing that fixes it is a smelter animation. It has been driving me nuts.  I thought it was the SexLab free cam bug and have uselessly been futzing with it.  I tried ENABLEPLAYERCONTROLS, but that doesn't work.  Thanks for this.

 

Does an earlier version work?  I think I'll need something to replace it.

It does not sadly, at least on my case.

@jaeos im using Improved camera but it changes nothing with the bug.
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I could live if it was simply that the camera get stuck at Third camera (or even first) the problem is that i cant move, attack or do anything (sometimes) in first camera, and directly crashes if its a summon weapon type or you force the game to do something (interact menus like Looting bodies)

It does need a replacement since you can feel the clunkyness on a lot of areas of the combat (tho it can be ignored, specially at third person) but overall i bite the bullet over having to worry if the next combat im going to be stuck in place and have to swap weapon, seathe, unseathe it, swap it back and then i can attack, or if its going to crash for no reason. No thanks, i prefer to get it working.

Im still digging a possible replacement but for now vanilla combat will have to do.

For now these look promising at a glance, tho testing is another history:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/45378 : More in like to what SKYSA tried to accomplish
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34412 : Seems more simplystic (not that is a bad thing) but also uses SPID and for what it seems is really lightweight.

Will test both when i have time.
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Also, i fully FULLY recomend this one, on fact it should be a nice addition to the guide:

Random first person magic animation SSE with DAR

Edited January 21, 2022 by Jessica_Degurechaff

[trgdolors]

@Jessica_Degurechaff Sorry to hear you are still having the trouble. Have you considered Inpa Sekiro Combat as a combat mod? I have not tested it yet, but it looks interesting. I may try it next time. Some of this mod author's mods have been in this guide before.

[Jessica_Degurechaff]

1 hour ago, trgdolors said:

@Jessica_Degurechaff Sorry to hear you are still having the trouble. Have you considered Inpa Sekiro Combat as a combat mod? I have not tested it yet, but it looks interesting. I may try it next time. Some of this mod author's mods have been in this guide before.

i have, while cool in idea and concept the problem is that it only brings parry to the table, you can still (literally) spam attacks and enemies still just try to hit you until you die, what it does it makes the game AI more abusable.

[wollboi]

@jaeos I was up to a pack and a half a day about 15 years ago. If I can quit, anybody can.

 

(Of course, I switched to drinking, so disregard any health advice I ever give.)

[Jessica_Degurechaff]

38 minutes ago, wollboi said:

@jaeos I was up to a pack and a half a day about 15 years ago. If I can quit, anybody can.

 

(Of course, I switched to drinking, so disregard any health advice I ever give.)

One of my kind i see.   I do not drink beer tho, i dont want to get fat.

 

[Jessica_Degurechaff]

Btw, im getting constant crashes whenever a dragon shows up tried two times and both crashed.

heres the Crash logs

 

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Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF64236D780 (SkyrimSE.exe+A0D780) on thread 7376!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 21 Jan 2022 04:06:31.765

Possible relevant objects (3)
{
  [  95]    TESNPC(Name: `Whiterun Guard`, FormId: 000A27CC, File: `High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp <- Skyrim.esm`)
  [  95]    Character(FormId: FF003554, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Whiterun Guard`, FormId: 000A27CC, File: `High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp <- Skyrim.esm`))
  [ 169]    BSFadeNode(Name: `skeleton.nif`, Owner: `Character(FormId: FF003554, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Whiterun Guard`, FormId: 000A27CC, File: `High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp <- Skyrim.esm`))`)
}

Crash_2022_1_21_4-6-31.txt

 

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Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF64236D780 (SkyrimSE.exe+A0D780) on thread 24520!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 21 Jan 2022 04:02:33.321

Possible relevant objects (3)
{
  [  95]    TESNPC(Name: `Whiterun Guard`, FormId: 00101997, File: `High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp <- Skyrim.esm`)
  [  95]    Character(FormId: FF003556, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Whiterun Guard`, FormId: 00101997, File: `High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp <- Skyrim.esm`))
  [ 169]    BSFadeNode(Name: `skeleton.nif`, Owner: `Character(FormId: FF003556, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Whiterun Guard`, FormId: 00101997, File: `High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition.esp <- Skyrim.esm`))`)
}
Crash_2022_1_21_4-2-33.txt

It seems pretty ovious its something to do with High Poly NPCs, but i have no clue why since it haves nothing to do with animations, behaviors, nothing at all, its just faces.

For context this is at the first dragon Fight at the Watchtower after the Dragon Stone quest-


 

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ok this is extremely weird, i reloaded an early save and now it worked fine, killed him 5 times with no crashes now. Maybe is because im playing on master?


Fuck it, it may be just skyrim being Skyrim, it works now, im so used to dig down every mod on my list now that i forget that skyrim is still skyrim and will crash for no reason sometimes.

Edited January 21, 2022 by Jessica_Degurechaff

[alaunus01]

39 minutes ago, wollboi said:

@jaeos I was up to a pack and a half a day about 15 years ago. If I can quit, anybody can.

 

(Of course, I switched to drinking, so disregard any health advice I ever give.)

 

Full blown pneunomia is not the ideal starting point to stop smoking. I know three former hardcore smokers (i.e. multiple packs per day) and they all 'used' an acute bronchitis to kick the habit. And they are the only people within that consumption range that managed to completely stop.

 

To be fair they stopped in the last millenium. Don't really know how it would have turned out if vaping was a thing back then already.

 

And an update from our healthscares. I finally managed to get enough weight back from that pre christmas infection so I no longer can count my ribs in the mirror. ?

[trgdolors]

Really sorry to be negative, but I quit smoking a long time ago. People around me dying a not good death from it helped with motivation. Please, take care of yourselves!

 

@wollboiYou said the new Go to Bed update was bad. Did you also use the new Go To Bed - DAR patch update when you made that assessment?

[Rey_Vegeta]

Do you know any alternatives to High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition 2.0 (All Vanilla NPCs)? The mod has serious discoloration between hairs and beards in men.

[wollboi]

@trgdolors Yep. There's an update again today, but I don't think it'll change anything. Basically:

 

Old version (SE version running on AE) - Click on a bed and you will disrobe (according to your settings). Plays the laying down animation. Have to manually click on the bed again. Choose "sleep". Character will then stand up on the bed while you select how long you want to sleep. After time passes, you'll be back to laying down again.

 

New AE version - No disrobe at all that I can see. The MCM is completely different. Animation works. But now the wait prompt has been changed to another key. Pressing the old one results in your character just standing up again. The key is bound by default to one of the same ones used by Immersive Interactions. I'm not sure which one, as I never play with a keyboard. If you're using a controller, pressing the key does nothing and pressing any button results in the character standing up again.

 

My advice is still stick with the old one. It's annoying, but more functional. If you look at the new MCM, it's completely different and I really don't like it. Note that I've installed the updated one, but haven't tested it yet.

[Aylis]

8 hours ago, trgdolors said:

People around me dying a not good death from it helped with motivation. Please, take care of yourselves!

For me it was all the people in the smoking area of the hospital. Seeing all the people with partially amputated legs (but still chain-smoking) was a shock.

 

Nope, i'm not going to become a member of that group...

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Small OT:

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Got myself a mod plus vaporizer and already reduced my tobacco consumption by more than 75% (still tinkering with nicotine level in the e-juice). Peach-Maracuja tastes, and smells, so much better than the old pyro.

 

For a beginner this set plus a MTL head would be easier, but i hate rebuying the required coils (they are always gone when you need them) and a rebuildable (like my Artemis) will save you some money in the long run.

 

The hardest thing is simply finding the right e-juice. If you don't like the taste you won't be able to switch, and, what i'm struggling with atm, is finding the right nicotine level. Too much and you get headaches - too little and you're still lighting up a cigarette.

 

Edited January 22, 2022 by Aylis

[remodel]

15 hours ago, Jessica_Degurechaff said:

Btw, im getting constant crashes whenever a dragon shows up tried two times and both crashed.

Yeah, that happened to me too when my weapons were stuck while testing, but in my case, it was Recorder who was having some animation problem trying to react to the Dragon threat.  I was watching her twist around just before the CTD.  The log said it was Recorder.  It wasn't Recorder but some animation which failed/conflicted on her during the event. 

 

I've had some poor SexLab mods do something similar with trying to start an animation execution at the start of a spider attack.  The NPC was listed in the error log when it was an animation and event conflict.  That's why I'm glad you found the problem because I was looking at some Sexlab Mods to fix the problem.  I quit the MOD and no more CDTs.

 

You might try to start the Papyrus Log and see what events were triggering. If you think you can get it to repeat.

 

I've now deactivated the SkySA mods.  And will be testing sometime tomorrow.

 

Think I just might get some FNIS mod which will be better than vanilla.

 

 

[remodel]

1 hour ago, Rey_Vegeta said:

Do you know any alternatives to High Poly NPC Overhaul - Skyrim Special Edition 2.0 (All Vanilla NPCs)? The mod has serious discoloration between hairs and beards in men.

You might try Pride of Skyrim - AIO Male High Poly Head Overhaul.  PoeticAnt44 writes "This is a mod page houses all my Male HPH NPC Overhauls with roughly 400 male NPCs".  She's a real artist with men.  Keep the High Poly Overhaul but load PoeticAnt's after.

 

Be aware you'll have to make a patch for each pride mod (11 ESL mods) that includes Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch, Unofficial Skyrim Modder's Patch - USMP SE, Guards Armor Replacer, and Unplayable Faction Armors SSE.  All these mods must be patched in for each ESL or one will overwrite the other and you will lose those mod features.   Guards Armor Replacer, and Unplayable Faction Armors SSE are exclusive of each other, but the others are not, simpler to patch all at once.

[trgdolors]

@wollboiThanks! That does sound annoying. I use a TKL keyboard and am always trying reduce the number of hotkeys.

 

I am still on SE for now. Will test Go to Bed updates before committing to them sometime in the next few days.

[Jessica_Degurechaff]

2 hours ago, remodel said:

Yeah, that happened to me too when my weapons were stuck while testing, but in my case, it was Recorder who was having some animation problem trying to react to the Dragon threat.  I was watching her twist around just before the CTD.  The log said it was Recorder.  It wasn't Recorder but some animation which failed/conflicted on her during the event. 

 

I've had some poor SexLab mods do something similar with trying to start an animation execution at the start of a spider attack.  The NPC was listed in the error log when it was an animation and event conflict.  That's why I'm glad you found the problem because I was looking at some Sexlab Mods to fix the problem.  I quit the MOD and no more CDTs.

 

You might try to start the Papyrus Log and see what events were triggering. If you think you can get it to repeat.

 

I've now deactivated the SkySA mods.  And will be testing sometime tomorrow.

 

Think I just might get some FNIS mod which will be better than vanilla.

 

 

Yeah the strange thing is that it got fixed on his own after i reloaded a save a few minutes before the dragon attack and all went Ok that time, skyrim stuff.