kin98 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Posted February 28, 2019 47 minutes ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Can you tell me what mods are currently in your load order (with the papyrus log you've posted) that are numbers 8D and 7E? On an unrelated note, are you still playing offline? I ask because the achievement lines are showing up in the log again. maybe forgot to go offline again and i dint check agian if the plugins where dissabeld after deactivating the mod :I
kin98 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 do you have expierence whit tes5 edit i think if i know how to find the script for lockpicking i could see what mods changes it
Psalam Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Spoiler 14 minutes ago, kin98 said: do you have expierence whit tes5 edit i think if i know how to find the script for lockpicking i could see what mods changes it Here is the mod cleaning tutorial: https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=TES5Edit_Mod_Cleaning_Tutorial It should give you the basics you need.
kin98 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Here is the mod cleaning tutorial: https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=TES5Edit_Mod_Cleaning_Tutorial It should give you the basics you need. not sure if cleaning is that what im looking for but i will try it thx :3
Psalam Posted March 2, 2019 Posted March 2, 2019 Spoiler 55 minutes ago, kin98 said: not sure if cleaning is that what im looking for but i will try it thx :3 No, it's not just about the cleaning. It shows how you access and use TES5 in general if you look.
kin98 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 59 minutes ago, kin98 said: not sure if cleaning is that what im looking for but i will try it thx :3 cleaning didnt help :c
kin98 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents No, it's not just about the cleaning. It shows how you access and use TES5 in general if you look. oh didnt see that thiught couse i linked me cleaning you ment that i should clean it ^^
kin98 Posted March 2, 2019 Author Posted March 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, kin98 said: oh didnt see that thiught couse i linked me cleaning you ment that i should clean it ^^ well i dont find anything thatt helps me finding a script for it but i think there should be one but there are so many options and i cant find a guide to make it easier for me :I
kin98 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Posted March 4, 2019 i take a break from this its snot like i cant play the game at all it just takes a way from it so if anyone sees this thread and has similar problem sry i cant help and if someone know how to fix it plez tell me thx for all the help :3
VirginMarie Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 11:46 AM, GenioMaestro said: You can change your load order and installed mods when you want but you MUST follow the un-installation instruction. Aditionally, the ONLY mod that i know that is broken when change the load order is Virgin Completely false. Changing load order or deleting mid playthrough will eventually lead to corruption, period, regardless of mods installed. The bigger the mods, the more susceptible they will be to this (also more noticeable because they are dong more, running more scripts, etc.). Anyone telling you to "clean" etc. is giving you workarounds to this reality but its' something you do at your own risk and will rarely be fool proof. This is just a reality of how Skyrim works.
GenioMaestro Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, VirginMarie said: Completely false. Changing load order or deleting mid playthrough will eventually lead to corruption, period, regardless of mods installed. The bigger the mods, the more susceptible they will be to this (also more noticeable because they are dong more, running more scripts, etc.). Anyone telling you to "clean" etc. is giving you workarounds to this reality but its' something you do at your own risk and will rarely be fool proof. This is just a reality of how Skyrim works. Excuse me but YOUR position is totally incorrect. You adopt THAT position because YOU have some problems in YOUR mod and the ONLY solution you find is say NOT CHANGE YOUR LOAD ORDER and problem solved. That is NOT a solution and, as i said, you can change your load order when you want whitout any problem in the 99.99% of the mods. The ONLY exception i know is Virgin and seems that DCL have the same problem. Maybe you know other mods that are broken when change the load order??? Give me examples, please, exact name of the mod and download link for test it. Any expert player can asure you that change the load order in mid play is NOT a problem and sometimes MUST be made for solve some problems because the load order is used by the game for change and replace the records in the ESM/ESP and you can have a finaly object that refer the maximun posible mix from all the mods in the load order. The game made it in that way for allow dinamic replacement of objects and for mix records. As a simple example i made a test in my game NOW. Take a look if you want. I change my load order to ALPHABETICAL ORDER for demostrate you that CHANGE the load order in mid game is NOT a problem. Spoiler # Main Masters ordered CORRECTLY Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp # Main Masters ordered CORRECTLY # Normal Masters INCORRECTLY ordered ALPHABETICALY ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm BeeingFemale.esm Campfire.esm CreatureFramework.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm EagleEyePerk.esm Falskaar.esm Havok Breast Physic.esm Inn Girls Resources.esm ITortureFramework.esm MiasLair.esp paradise_halls.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm SMSkyrim.esp ZaZAnimationPack.esm # Normal Masters INCORRECTLY ordered ALPHABETICALY # Main Plugings ordered CORRECTLY HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp # Main Plugings ordered CORRECTLY # Normal Plugings INCORRECTLY ordered ALPHABETICALY 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 3DNPC.esp AddItemMenu2.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp AI Package Manager.esp AKElvenTeenies.esp aleGetNaked.esp AllNudePlay.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp AMatterOfTime.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp animal_mansion.esp AnubAnimObj.esp Apropos.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp Beastess Vampire.esp BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp beinz_plugin.esp Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp Cavalos.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp Customizable Camera.esp DanarielStormbow.esp dc-untamed-000.esp Devious Cidhna.esp Dwarfsphere.esp Elephant'sScriptLatencyTester.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ErynielElfV2.esp EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp FalskaarRNDPatch.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FNISspells.esp Frostfall.esp Giada.esp Hair Physics Project.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp HDT Female Hairstyles.esp HDTTailsEquipable.esp HelmetToggle2.02b.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Imaginator BETA.esp Immersive Arousal.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp immersive wenches RND-patch.esp Immersive Wenches.esp InigoPerkPointGiver.esp Japanese.esp JaxonzZoom.esp KomAnimObjects.esp KomAnimScaler.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Liz Follower.esp LunariWarriors.esp Milker Movil Armor.esp MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasic.esp MilkModNEW CF.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp MilkModNEW.esp mintylightningmod.esp MistySkye.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp MystElementalApocalypse.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp NPCs Protected and Uncapped.esp OBIS.esp OBISDB.esp OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp Paramount - Tweaks and FX.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Realistic-Voice.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp RevertUSKPFortifyRestoration.esp RutahTattooPack.esp SAP.esp Sassy.esp SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp ScriptTest.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLab Beastess.esp SexLab Cumshot.esp SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp SexLabCumRegenerator.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp SexLabSquirtR.esp SexLabTools.esp Shout Like a Virgin.esp Size Does Matter.esp SKY_Aura.esp SKY_Iridis.esp SKY_Lumen-Cael.esp SKY_Solis.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp SkyrimURWL.esp SkyUI.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp SLA Monitor Widget.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SlaveTatsMagicManager.esp SLPleasure.esp SLSO.esp SLSO_PSA.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SMSkyrim - 3DNPC Patch.esp SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp SOS - Revealing Armors.esp SOS - Shop.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp TestMorph.esp The Brotherhood of Old.esp The Manipulator.esp TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp UIExtensions.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp WetFunction.esp XPMSE.esp # Normal Plugings INCORRECTLY ordered ALPHABETICALY I load my savegame, the SAME that i normaly use and carry from more than 6 months, and play for 30 minutes looking for a broken mod and i not find any, except Virgin. ALL my mods works whitout any problem, Sexlab works, and aroused, sos, creatures, PSQ, MME, DD, Fnis sexy move, Wet Function, apropos... and ALL others big mods like pahe, Slaverun, SexSlaves and Maid II Deception works, because change the order in mid play is NOT a problem for the game. Maybe i must play more time (how many hours?) for find a broken mod but half hour is enougth for notice that Virgin is not working. I add my SKSE.log. Please, take a look to it and you can see how SKSE and the game DINAMICALLY change near ALL the internal code of the mods stored in the savegame to the NEW alphabetical order: Spoiler Loading mod list: (0 -> 0) Skyrim.esm (1 -> 1) Update.esm (2 -> 2) Dawnguard.esm (3 -> 3) HearthFires.esm (4 -> 4) Dragonborn.esm (5 -> 5) Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp (6 -> 23) paradise_halls.esm (7 -> 6) ApachiiHair.esm (8 -> 7) ApachiiHairFemales.esm (9 -> ? BeeingFemale.esm (10 -> 11) SexLab.esm (11 -> 13) SexLabAroused.esm (12 -> 26) SMSkyrim.esp (13 -> 20) ZaZAnimationPack.esm (14 -> 22) MiasLair.esp (15 -> 9) Campfire.esm (16 -> 10) CreatureFramework.esm (17 -> 12) Devious Devices - Assets.esm (18 -> 19) Inn Girls Resources.esm (19 -> 14) Devious Devices - Integration.esm (20 -> 15) Devious Devices - Expansion.esm (21 -> 16) EagleEyePerk.esm (22 -> 17) Falskaar.esm (23 -> 18) Havok Breast Physic.esm (24 -> 21) ITortureFramework.esm (25 -> 25) Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm (26 -> 24) PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm (27 -> 27) HighResTexturePack01.esp (28 -> 28) HighResTexturePack02.esp (29 -> 29) HighResTexturePack03.esp (30 -> 30) Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp (31 -> 48) beinz_plugin.esp (32 -> 101) mintylightningmod.esp (33 -> 31) 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp (34 -> 62) EnhancedLightsandFX.esp (35 -> 32) 3DNPC.esp (36 -> 119) Paramount - Tweaks and FX.esp (37 -> 75) Havok Breast Physic.esp (38 -> 108) NPCs Protected and Uncapped.esp (39 -> 118) paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp (40 -> 152) Shout Like a Virgin.esp (41 -> 158) SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp (42 -> 109) OBIS.esp (43 -> 144) SexLab_Solutions.esp (44 -> 162) SkyrimURWL.esp (45 -> 123) RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp (46 -> 142) SexLab_DibellaCult.esp (47 -> 54) Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp (48 -> 105) MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp (49 -> 189) The Brotherhood of Old.esp (50 -> 42) animal_mansion.esp (51 -> 141) SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp (52 -> 116) pahe-tdf-patch.esp (53 -> 193) UIExtensions.esp (54 -> 33) AddItemMenu2.esp (55 -> 34) AHZmoreHUD.esp (56 -> 35) AI Package Manager.esp (57 -> 41) AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp (58 -> 59) Dwarfsphere.esp (59 -> 104) MoreNastyCritters.esp (60 -> 176) SMIM-Merged-All.esp (61 -> 169) Slaverun_Reloaded.esp (62 -> 137) SexLab Beastess.esp (63 -> 113) PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp (64 -> 112) PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp (65 -> 161) Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp (66 -> 117) paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp (67 -> 160) SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp (68 -> 82) Immersive Patrols II.esp (69 -> 102) MistySkye.esp (70 -> 64) EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp (71 -> 70) Frostfall.esp (72 -> 146) SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp (73 -> 58) Devious Cidhna.esp (74 -> 100) MilkModNEW.esp (75 -> 95) MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasic.esp (76 -> 84) Immersive Wenches.esp (77 -> 134) Schlongs of Skyrim.esp (78 -> 183) SOS - Shop.esp (79 -> 190) The Manipulator.esp (80 -> 57) dc-untamed-000.esp (81 -> 36) AKElvenTeenies.esp (82 -> 37) aleGetNaked.esp (83 -> 38) AllNudePlay.esp (84 -> 40) AMatterOfTime.esp (85 -> 43) AnubAnimObj.esp (86 -> 44) Apropos.esp (87 -> 45) BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp (88 -> 49) Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp (89 -> 51) Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp (90 -> 132) Sassy.esp (91 -> 177) SMSkyrim - 3DNPC Patch.esp (92 -> 140) SexLab Eager NPCs.esp (93 -> 114) pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp (94 -> 52) Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp (95 -> 128) Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp (96 -> 46) Beastess Vampire.esp (97 -> 47) BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp (98 -> 50) Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp (99 -> 163) SkyUI.esp (100 -> 55) Customizable Camera.esp (101 -> 93) LunariWarriors.esp (102 -> 56) DanarielStormbow.esp (103 -> 60) Elephant'sScriptLatencyTester.esp (104 -> 80) Imaginator BETA.esp (105 -> 63) ErynielElfV2.esp (106 -> 65) FalskaarRNDPatch.esp (107 -> 66) fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp (108 -> 67) FNIS.esp (109 -> 69) FNISspells.esp (110 -> 71) Giada.esp (111 -> 72) Hair Physics Project.esp (112 -> 73) Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp (113 -> 74) Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp (114 -> 76) HDT Female Hairstyles.esp (115 -> 77) HDTTailsEquipable.esp (116 -> 78) HelmetToggle2.02b.esp (117 -> 79) HentaiCreatures.esp (118 -> 81) Immersive Arousal.esp (119 -> 83) immersive wenches RND-patch.esp (120 -> 85) InigoPerkPointGiver.esp (121 -> 86) Japanese.esp (122 -> 87) JaxonzZoom.esp (123 -> 88) KomAnimObjects.esp (124 -> 89) KomAnimScaler.esp (125 -> 91) KS Hairdo's.esp (126 -> 90) KS Hairdos - HDT.esp (127 -> 156) SKY_Lumen-Cael.esp (128 -> 92) Liz Follower.esp (129 -> 94) Milker Movil Armor.esp (130 -> 96) MilkModNEW CF.esp (131 -> 97) MilkModNEW HF.esp (132 -> 98) MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp (133 -> 99) MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp (134 -> 103) Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp (135 -> 106) MystElementalApocalypse.esp (136 -> 107) NibblesAnimObjects.esp (137 -> 110) OBISDB.esp (138 -> 111) OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp (139 -> 115) pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp (140 -> 120) RaceMenu.esp (141 -> 121) RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp (142 -> 122) RaceMenuPlugin.esp (143 -> 124) Realistic-Voice.esp (144 -> 125) Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp (145 -> 126) Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp (146 -> 127) Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp (147 -> 129) RevertUSKPFortifyRestoration.esp (148 -> 130) RutahTattooPack.esp (149 -> 131) SAP.esp (150 -> 133) SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp (151 -> 135) ScriptTest.esp (152 -> 136) SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp (153 -> 138) SexLab Cumshot.esp (154 -> 139) SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp (155 -> 143) SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp (156 -> 145) SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp (157 -> 147) SexLabCumRegenerator.esp (158 -> 148) SexLabDangerousNights2.esp (159 -> 149) SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp (160 -> 150) SexLabSquirtR.esp (161 -> 151) SexLabTools.esp (162 -> 153) Size Does Matter.esp (163 -> 154) SKY_Aura.esp (164 -> 155) SKY_Iridis.esp (165 -> 157) SKY_Solis.esp (166 -> 159) SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp (167 -> 164) SL Deadly Drain.esp (168 -> 165) SLA Monitor Widget.esp (169 -> 166) SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp (170 -> 167) SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp (171 -> 168) SLAnimLoader.esp (172 -> 170) SlaveTats.esp (173 -> 171) SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp (174 -> 172) SlaveTatsMagicManager.esp (175 -> 173) SLPleasure.esp (176 -> 174) SLSO.esp (177 -> 175) SLSO_PSA.esp (178 -> 179) SMSkyrim - Compressed.esp (179 -> 180) SMSkyrim - Encounters.esp (180 -> 181) SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp (181 -> 182) SOS - Revealing Armors.esp (182 -> 184) SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp (183 -> 185) SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp (184 -> 186) SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp (185 -> 187) SOSRaceMenu.esp (186 -> 188) TestMorph.esp (187 -> 191) TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp (188 -> 192) TheEyesOfBeauty.esp (189 -> 194) UnreadBooksGlow.esp (190 -> 195) WetFunction.esp (191 -> 196) XPMSE.esp (192 -> 68) FNISSexyMove.esp (193 -> 39) Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp (194 -> 178) SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp (195 -> 61) ELFXEnhancer.esp (196 -> 53) Cavalos.esp That is the load of the savegame and SKSE and the GAME compare the load order in the savegame with the actual load order and DYNAMICALLY map all the information stored in the savegame from the OLD code to the NEW code. And that is made for allow the CHANGE of the load order in mid play. Also, let me say that I am using Vortex and that it has integrated LOOT and it runs automatically every time I install a new mod and I do not have an option to deactivate it. I CAN NOT control my load order when I use Vortex and I CAN NOT know WHEN Vortex integrated LOOT moves Virgin in my loading order and, of course, I do not see it when I install a mod and that is why any Vortex user may have problems with your mod. I add my complete SKSE.log and my complete Papyrus.0.log and you can see 3 stack dumps, that is not a problem for the game, and some errors in mods like Realistic Needs and some errors from the expresion system of sexlab. That problems are caused for have a INCORRECT load order and are NOT caused for change the load order in mid game. Now, explain me, if you want, WHERE is the problem of change the load order in mid play. skse.rar Papyrus.0.rar
VirginMarie Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Excuse me but YOUR position is totally incorrect. You adopt THAT position because YOU have some problems in YOUR mod and the ONLY solution you find is say NOT CHANGE YOUR LOAD ORDER and problem solved. I don't adopt any position. I just state fact. It is how Skyrim mods/creation Kit work. I think its a shame that you are spreading false advice. You are not the first to do so on this topic so I can understand that you may have read things that make you believe what you are saying. When I first started out writing my own mod, I thought the same as you due to what I had read, but then learned how it works by talking to the Devs for Devious Devices (one of the authors being also the author of DCL which you mentioned). Do a bit more research and you will see. The test you are using is not sufficient. And while I hate to end this way, I won't be replying further as its just not something I want to spend my time on.
Grey Cloud Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, VirginMarie said: It is how Skyrim mods/creation Kit work. What evidence do you have? If there is an issue it would surely be down to the Skyrim engine. Not all mods require the CK and not all features of the CK are present in every mod that requires it. And how does the CK influence what is stored in a save and how it is stored there? I also routinely change mods mid-game and always have done. There a too many myths surrounding Skyrim, some of them may have been relevant several years ago but most are just what I call 'mantras' - people spout them when a given circumstance crops up. I keep thinking about making a list of them - 'mod conflicts'; 'script-heavy'; 'never change your load order'.
GenioMaestro Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: 'mod conflicts'; 'script-heavy'; 'never change your load order'. 'you must clean the masters', 'stack dump are dangerous and break your savegame', 'this mod have a lot of scripts and is not recomended', 'put your INI setings in papyrus to 800 ms', 'you must disable log because reduce the resources'
Grey Cloud Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, GenioMaestro said: 'you must clean the masters', 'stack dump are dangerous and break your savegame', 'this mod have a lot of scripts and is not recomended', 'put your INI setings in papyrus to 800 ms', 'you must disable log because reduce the resources' ? ?
GenioMaestro Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, VirginMarie said: I don't adopt any position. I just state fact. It is how Skyrim mods/creation Kit work. I think its a shame that you are spreading false advice. You are not the first to do so on this topic so I can understand that you may have read things that make you believe what you are saying. When I first started out writing my own mod, I thought the same as you due to what I had read, but then learned how it works by talking to the Devs for Devious Devices (one of the authors being also the author of DCL which you mentioned). Do a bit more research and you will see. The test you are using is not sufficient. And while I hate to end this way, I won't be replying further as its just not something I want to spend my time on. Excuse me but I defend my position with tests, evidences and reasoning and you simply say that I am wrong without providing any evidence or documentation. Maybe if you provide some proof or some document we could start thinking that you are right. But as long as the evidence and the proofs prove my position, excuse me, but I must say that who is wrong is you.
Psalam Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Quote 4 minutes ago, kin98 said: huh how did this happen? If you're talking about the last several posts, your thread had the misfortune of being the place where an ongoing disagreement was made public. While I think your thread will be free of further controversy for a while this sort of thing can (and does) pop up on LL every once in a while.
GenioMaestro Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, kin98 said: huh how did this happen? How did happen WHAT? The latest messages? Read it, it's easy. A few days ago I said the obvious and @VirginMarie responded with the same falsehood that she says for years. Logically I answered with proof, evidence and reasoning that leave no room for doubt. And we apologize, but sometimes the support area is used INCORRECTLY to discuss other things that are not related to your problem.
kin98 Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 7:48 PM, Psalam said: If you're talking about the last several posts, your thread had the misfortune of being the place where an ongoing disagreement was made public. While I think your thread will be free of further controversy for a while this sort of thing can (and does) pop up on LL every once in a while. i see thx for answering :3
kin98 Posted April 20, 2019 Author Posted April 20, 2019 this is still open if anyone can help maybe not me but someone in the futre
Psalam Posted April 20, 2019 Posted April 20, 2019 Quote 1 hour ago, kin98 said: this is still open if anyone can help maybe not me but someone in the futre I thought you had it under control with TES5Edit? I am sorry that your thread was derailed. Can you update me with: 1) What precisely is giving you a problem? (Have you noticed any change from before?) 2) A current load order (preferably from LOOT and preferably in a spoiler). 3) A papyrus log that includes the problem that you are having.
kin98 Posted April 21, 2019 Author Posted April 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Psalam said: I thought you had it under control with TES5Edit? I am sorry that your thread was derailed. Can you update me with: 1) What precisely is giving you a problem? (Have you noticed any change from before?) 2) A current load order (preferably from LOOT and preferably in a spoiler). 3) A papyrus log that includes the problem that you are having. well i cant realy do that anymore couse my vortex broke and it said all mods are diesabled but the game still had the mods so i enabled them all out of frustration and then i gave up so i will type again when i have enoug enuraance again to try again
Psalam Posted April 21, 2019 Posted April 21, 2019 Quote 1 hour ago, kin98 said: well i cant realy do that anymore couse my vortex broke and it said all mods are diesabled but the game still had the mods so i enabled them all out of frustration and then i gave up so i will type again when i have enoug enuraance again to try again Let me know, I don't expect to be going anywhere.
kin98 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Posted May 21, 2019 ok i tried skyrim again but i reinstalled the game and slwoly building up again also seems like some mods were older then they should have been prob couse NMM corrupted them all but it works again atleast th lockpicking part the rest is a slow climb upwards my old mod list i had like 200 or so
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