FoxLotus Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Default races male an female have invisible Bodies, but floating head/hands/feet/Schlong. (Argonian and Khajit unaffected) *edit* I should inject that this issue is only affecting default player races. NPCs are unaffected. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 TERAArmors.esm 8 8 RSkyrimChildren.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a ApachiiHairMales.esm 11 b ApachiiHair.esm 12 c ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 13 d RaceCompatibility.esm 14 e hdtHighHeel.esm 15 f ApachiiHairFemales.esm 16 10 FoxPalace_X.esm 17 11 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 18 12 WinterholdDestruction.esm 19 13 Campfire.esm 20 14 PubicMeshColorRE.esm 21 15 SexLabAroused.esm 22 16 Heels Sound.esm 23 17 CreatureFramework.esm 24 18 Falskaar.esm 25 19 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 26 1a ZaZAnimationPack.esm 27 1b Dual Wield for Followers.esm 28 1c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 29 1d Cutting Room Floor.esp 30 1e Wyrmstooth.esp 31 1f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 32 20 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 33 21 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 34 22 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 35 23 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 36 24 SLSO.esp 37 25 sr_FillHerUp.esp 38 26 Real Roads.esp 39 27 RLO - Interiors.esp 40 28 iHUD.esp 41 29 Scale Tipper.esp 42 2a SkyRealism - Encumbrance.esp 43 2b WetandCold.esp 44 2c AOS.esp 45 2d SkyUI.esp 46 2e Beards.esp 47 2f 3PCOFull.esp 48 30 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 49 31 Combat Evolved.esp 50 32 VioLens.esp 51 33 WondersofWeather.esp 52 34 mintylightningmod.esp 53 35 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 54 36 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 55 37 PlayRandomIdle.esp 56 38 RLO - Effects.esp 57 39 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 58 3a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 59 3b Vivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp 60 3c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 61 3d AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 62 3e AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 63 3f DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 64 40 FISS.esp 65 41 AMatterOfTime.esp 66 42 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp 67 43 fox56 Armor.esp 68 44 3DNPC.esp 69 45 ETaC - Complete.esp 70 46 RSChildren.esp 71 47 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 72 48 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp 73 49 More Spawns - 2x.esp 74 4a NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp 75 4b The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp 76 4c SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 77 4d Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp 78 4e Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 79 4f RealShelter.esp 80 50 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 81 51 Helgen Reborn.esp 82 52 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp 83 53 RLO - Exteriors.esp 84 54 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp 85 55 OBIS.esp 86 56 Ambriel.esp 87 57 SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp 88 58 TradeBarter.esp 89 59 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 90 5a Immersive Whiterun.esp 91 5b Immersive Solstheim.esp 92 5c Immersive Interiors.esp 93 5d FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 94 5e AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 95 5f Falskaar Wildlife.esp 96 60 VVE.esp 97 61 Point The Way.esp 98 62 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp 99 63 SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp100 64 RLO - CRF Patch.esp101 65 Vivid Weathers.esp102 66 WetandCold - Ashes.esp103 67 Vivid Weathers - Falskaar.esp104 68 Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp105 69 Vivid Weathers - Wyrmstooth.esp106 6a OBISDB.esp107 6b RevampedExteriorFog.esp108 6c Vivid Weathers - AOS patch.esp109 6d SoS_AOS2_Patch.esp110 6e SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp111 6f TrueStorms.esp112 70 Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp113 71 VWTSPaTch.esp114 72 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp115 73 TrueStorms-RLO.esp116 74 TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp117 75 Dark Dungeons for Skyrim-Dawnguard-Dragonborn.esp118 76 SkyrimSewers.esp119 77 SMIM-Merged-All.esp120 78 SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp121 79 SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp122 7a RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp123 7b MoreNastyCritters.esp124 7c Animal Tweaks.esp125 7d NARC-SkyTEST.esp126 7e NARC.esp127 7f Cloaks.esp128 80 DeadlyMutilation.esp129 81 fallentreebridges.esp130 82 BosmerArmorMATY743.esp131 83 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp132 84 RealShelter_ETAC14.esp133 85 SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp134 86 Frostfall.esp135 87 SofiaFollower.esp136 88 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp137 89 deadmanor.esp138 8a Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp139 8b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp140 8c ForgottenCity.esp141 8d FollowerLivePackage.esp142 8e Kate.esp143 8f Arachnophobia.esp144 90 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp145 91 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp146 92 imp_helm_legend.esp147 93 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp148 94 PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp149 95 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp150 96 UltimateCombat.esp151 97 DeadlyDragons.esp152 98 AOS2_DD Patch.esp153 99 Shocky500.esp154 9a SexLab_Hormones.esp155 9b iNeed.esp156 9c SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp157 9d iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp158 9e ZazimelDrow.esp159 9f FollowerLivePackage-AFT.esp160 a0 Animal Tweaks - SkyTEST Patch.esp161 a1 Animal Tweaks - OBIS Patch.esp162 a2 ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp163 a3 Bosmer Armor Pack - Jenassa Fix.esp164 a4 Merta Assassin Armor.esp165 a5 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp166 a6 LadyHorus_TERA.esp167 a7 Nakrulz's Latex Corset.esp168 a8 RaceMenu.esp169 a9 RaceMenuPlugin.esp170 aa Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp171 ab Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp172 ac Dual Sheath Redux.esp173 ad 12FemaleBrows.esp174 ae UIExtensions.esp175 af AddItemMenu.esp176 b0 Extended Slider Colors.esp177 b1 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp178 b2 LoksEyes.esp179 b3 IridumEyes2.0.esp180 b4 Blush When Aroused.esp181 b5 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp182 b6 SexLabSquirtR.esp183 b7 SLAnimLoader.esp184 b8 SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp185 b9 WetFunction.esp186 ba FNISSexyMove.esp187 bb SexLabDefeat.esp188 bc SMDropLitTorch.esp189 bd SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp190 be Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp191 bf Brows.esp192 c0 wgwarpaint2p0.esp193 c1 EmpyreanWarpaints.esp194 c2 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp195 c3 FNIS_PCEA2.esp196 c4 SLALAnimObj.esp197 c5 Black Rose.esp198 c6 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp199 c7 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp200 c8 LeftHandRings.esp201 c9 AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp202 ca SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp203 cb SOSRaceMenu.esp204 cc RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp205 cd BlackSacramentArmor.esp206 ce My Home Is Your Home.esp207 cf LustmordVampireArmor.esp208 d0 sandboxcylinderheight.esp209 d1 BladesBikini.esp210 d2 Neo's Selene.esp211 d3 Lady Arkay.esp212 d4 Insanity's Sorrow.esp213 d5 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp214 d6 BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp215 d7 ADS.esp216 d8 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp217 d9 XPMSE.esp218 da LessIntrusiveHUD.esp219 db SexLab Extra Voices.esp220 dc FNIS.esp221 dd TKDodge.esp222 de Avril.esp223 df Breast Size Scaling for NPCs.esp224 e0 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp225 e1 Moniko.esp226 e2 BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp227 e3 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp228 e4 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp229 e5 rtZuleikaFollower.esp230 e6 Luna_GoV.esp231 e7 kaz doa_nyo_suit_1.esp232 e8 Zhumoyi.esp233 e9 GDZZJJDH.esp234 ea Schlongs of Skyrim.esp235 eb SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp236 ec SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp237 ed SOS Schlong Controller.esp238 ee Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp239 ef RealisticWaterTwo.esp240 f0 RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp241 f1 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp242 f2 RLO - IC Patch.esp243 f3 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp244 f4 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp245 f5 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp246 f6 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp247 f7 RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp248 f8 RDO - Follower Live Package Patch.esp249 f9 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp250 fa Vivid Snow Physical.esp251 fb Dual Sheath Redux Patch.espAn yes I'm aware I've no bashed patches. The last 2 times I made a go to making one it more or less screwed my mod build, forcing me to re-add my esp's to the build one by one. An I just finished fixing the last time it did that, which may still be a probable cause to this current issue. What steps should I approach to testing the culprit?
Seijin8 Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 The meshes are probably missing. Are you using NMM?
Psalam Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Which of the many NPC Overhauls is the one that you are using? It is not that I know anything about it (or I wouldn't ask) but at first glance it appears to be the only mod in your load order that might affect men and mer without impacting the beast races.
Grey Cloud Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Where to begin? Bashed patches are the least of your worries. You are operating near the 254 plug-in limit. You have any number of mods whaich are adding a load of content to your game. You have several cases of two or more mods doing the same thing. I'm impressed that the game runs at all. 37 minutes ago, Seijin8 said: The meshes are probably missing. Are you using NMM? The meshes are probably there but they can't load in until a week next Tuesday. ?
FoxLotus Posted November 14, 2018 Author Posted November 14, 2018 252 mods to be exact. Which mods would be doing the same thing? Previous to this last rebuild I had no issues with invisible bodies, but when I ran wryebash I had to rebuild by adding back the .esp's individually to each folder in MO. Game runs at 60+ frames, no FNIS conflicts. Which mods do you suggest are dual purposing? An I can disable/remove them.
Thunderstriken Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 I got the same problem, yet having around 20 mods. I'm not sure how that can be resolved. basically when the characters get naked, their bodies become invisible and stick in one another, literally.
Seijin8 Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Thunderstriken said: I got the same problem, yet having around 20 mods. I'm not sure how that can be resolved. basically when the characters get naked, their bodies become invisible and stick in one another, literally. Are you using "nude suits" in Sexlab?
yatol Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Seijin8 said: The meshes are probably missing. Are you using NMM? 10 hours ago, XZero said: Default races male an female have invisible Bodies, but floating head/hands/feet/Schlong. (Argonian and Khajit unaffected) argonian it's the nord mesh with another texture.... floating heads? that can be conflict between save and load order (kill some obis bandit, from obis esp not edits of skyrim esm bandit, save, reload without obis, surprise) that can be an armor that have sbp 32 in its armor addon (give sbp 31 to armor malehands, all males become bald) or something else to figure out what it is, you open the console and go take a look at the npc inventory
Thunderstriken Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Seijin8 said: Are you using "nude suits" in Sexlab? I think there was tick on it. Does that cause it ?
Seijin8 Posted November 15, 2018 Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Thunderstriken said: I think there was tick on it. Does that cause it ? Untick it and start a scene. See what happens.
FoxLotus Posted November 16, 2018 Author Posted November 16, 2018 17 hours ago, yatol said: argonian it's the nord mesh with another texture.... floating heads? that can be conflict between save and load order (kill some obis bandit, from obis esp not edits of skyrim esm bandit, save, reload without obis, surprise) that can be an armor that have sbp 32 in its armor addon (give sbp 31 to armor malehands, all males become bald) or something else to figure out what it is, you open the console and go take a look at the npc inventory Hmm, NPCs are unaffected by this. It is only affecting player race. Argonian an Khajit are working, no issues, it is all other default race choices.
FoxLotus Posted November 17, 2018 Author Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 2:35 PM, Grey Cloud said: Where to begin? Bashed patches are the least of your worries. You are operating near the 254 plug-in limit. You have any number of mods whaich are adding a load of content to your game. You have several cases of two or more mods doing the same thing. I'm impressed that the game runs at all. The meshes are probably there but they can't load in until a week next Tuesday. ? I have no issue with the game loading, or rendering anything. On occasion the game does CTD, but no more than what would be expected from a heavily modded build given the limitations of the games core engine issues. Many are patched to work with other mods in conjunction. But do digress to which mods you are saying do the same thing so I can address that.
Grey Cloud Posted November 17, 2018 Posted November 17, 2018 6 hours ago, XZero said: But do digress to which mods you are saying do the same thing so I can address that. They are your mods you look through them, I've got better things to do.
worik Posted November 17, 2018 Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 12:41 AM, Seijin8 said: On 11/15/2018 at 12:42 PM, Thunderstriken said: I think there was tick on it. Does that cause it ? Untick it and start a scene. See what happens. .. and regarding the "sticking together" ... where it would help a lot if you would post a screenshot, so everybody can see what you mean by that. But since I was born with a bit of fantasy, now I fantasize what it might look like. And the thing that I see in my visions is an indicator that you might be talking about a started SexLab scene? Right? and if that is true => it signals that either the started animation is broken, or SexLab is still running with the setup of this scene and tries to position the actors .. and has not finished, yet ... and if THAT ^^ goes on for minutes without it doing anything else => it indicates further problems with your setup But since your description is vague at best and you didn't post a screenshot and you didn't tell the circumstances (like: when, where, how and what did you do ... etc ...), I might be totally wrong at all. In that case you can safely ignore my fantasies.
FoxLotus Posted November 17, 2018 Author Posted November 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: They are your mods you look through them, I've got better things to do. All mods I've added are either complimentary to work in conjunction with each other. Many are patches to work with either audio overhauls, lighting, or AI functionality. Some are stacked to increase AI difficulty without having to bloat scale their health, I've 3-4 combat AI mods, 2 addressing NPCs, the other 2 for creatures specifically. OBIS an Kidnapping redux while providing very similar experiences, one only works for faction NPCs, the other works for both NPC factions and creatures. I use it for creatures. But since you have better things to do, despite replying to this thread initially. Please don't respond, I've asked for technical help an you provided none other than to comment as you have. To which leaves me to ponder the tone of your response overall. Thank you. An have a pleasant day.
Grey Cloud Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 I don't do any of the four or five things I said you do and I am not the one who is looking for help with a broken game. Perhaps there is a connection. All those points I made are valid and relate to the technical aspects of modding Skyrim. Some of the cities have three mods altering them. How much weather can you fit into a day and how much of it can you see at night? And the scripts that will be running, ye gods, the scripts. On 11/14/2018 at 10:53 PM, XZero said: Game runs at 60+ frames, no FNIS conflicts. 60 plus frames? My arse. What refresh rate is your monitor set to? FNIS does not show 'conflicts'. 48 minutes ago, XZero said: All mods I've added are either complimentary to work in conjunction with each other. Many are patches to work with either audio overhauls, lighting, or AI functionality. Some are stacked to increase AI difficulty without having to bloat scale their health, I've 3-4 combat AI mods, 2 addressing NPCs, the other 2 for creatures specifically. OBIS an Kidnapping redux while providing very similar experiences, one only works for faction NPCs, the other works for both NPC factions and creatures. I use it for creatures. That is basically a combination of poor English, waffle and nonsense.
Thunderstriken Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 1:41 AM, Seijin8 said: Untick it and start a scene. See what happens. Tried that, still the bodies just stack over each other or don't appear at all :/
Psalam Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 Spoiler 8 hours ago, Thunderstriken said: Tried that, still the bodies just stack over each other or don't appear at all Post a screen shot, your load order and tell us what body type you use and whether you have bodyslide and know how to use it.
donttouchmethere Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 10:43 PM, XZero said: I should inject that this issue is only affecting default player races. just a guess based on my experiances: > some follower mods overwrite parts or everything of the default PC race (some modders even give a warning that they overwrote for example breton race, so you have to choose another), this shows in bugged skin textures, body hand/feet missmatch, missing head sculpture ... > some NPC overhauls overwrite the default PC race, you get some odd body bugs with that > sometimes only the first PC preset is overwritten, choosing another preset or loading your own preset might slove the issue sometimes it can be rescued with the right load order (followers above all NPC replacers) with my dangerous half-knowledge I just delet mods that effect the player race (especially if there is no explanation/warning on the mod page)
Thunderstriken Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Psalam said: Reveal hidden contents Post a screen shot, your load order and tell us what body type you use and whether you have bodyslide and know how to use it. I'm not sure about the body type, nor where I can check the load order, I have installed some bodyslide, but I do not know how to use it. P.S. According to the game the pictures below are supposed to be doggy style.
Grey Cloud Posted November 21, 2018 Posted November 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, Thunderstriken said: I'm not sure about the body type, nor where I can check the load order, I have installed some bodyslide, but I do not know how to use it. P.S. According to the game the pictures below are supposed to be doggy style. That's an animation issue and nothing like what the OP is describing.
FoxLotus Posted November 21, 2018 Author Posted November 21, 2018 This is what I see when in showracemenu at creation start, I hit done. Then go to 3rd person view. Go to equipment an disrobe, then screen 2 happens. I switch to 1st person view point an image 3 renders as such. If I equip prisoner clothes then remove quickly while in 3rd person it shows full nude body torso, legs but hands are missing. If I switch viewpoints after this from 3rd to 1st an back to 3rd person, then I get the invisible torso/legs from screen 2.
FoxLotus Posted December 1, 2018 Author Posted December 1, 2018 semi-FIXED - Found the the culprit - Immersive First Person View - Sexlab edition mod. Still not sure how to correct the issue may simply be moving the left panel MO order to a higher spot. Disabled no longer getting any missing parts and swapping from 3rd to 1st person view shows up as normal, no missing parts.
FoxLotus Posted December 1, 2018 Author Posted December 1, 2018 FIXED - Moving the IFPV sexlab non-plugin mod to a lower / earlier spot in my left panel list. Has corrected the issue completely.
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