Skyrim runs at 2X time

[oldrayzor]

A technical anomaly just the last few days has sent Skyrim performance into double time. Walking is fast, extended dialog doubles up and overlaps, lip sync finishes before the audio completes, etc. I've researched online and checked all the game settings and they're fine (or at least correspond to the recommendations I found). My suspicion is that my computer is (somehow?) overclocking.  Specifically, my GeForce GTX1070. I've not changed anything to ENBoost. Even did a run without any mods. I haven't looked into a remedy yet primarily because for the first time ever it actually performs very well. My crashes have always been related to memory intense cells and its wonderful to trudge into The Bannered Mare with a bunch of followers in tow and not have a freeze or crash. Could use some advice as to what could be done. I'd love to keep the performance but worry my GTX might get damaged. Any ideas?

[Guest]

Enable or disable the VSync.

This can lead to wrong game timings.

[oldrayzor]

2 hours ago, CPU said:

Enable or disable the VSync.

This can lead to wrong game timings. 

Thanks for the reply CPU. I've tried all the VSync settings: on, off, adaptive. None work. the game is running at twice speed, walks, idles, everything seems slightly pixelated.

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[Roarke]

Does ENBoost come with enblocal.ini file? If so, try limiting your fps to 60. To do that, edit or add the following:

 

[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=true
FPSLimit=60.0

 

You might also want to look into changing your VideoMemorySizeMb by following this guide, ENBlocal INI/Memory.

 

EDIT: BTW, if you are using ENBoost and your image appears pixelated, it might be that you aren't using an ENB preset. Find one on Nexus and follow the installation instructions. I use Tetrachromatic on my build.

[GenioMaestro]

1 hour ago, oldrayzor said:

Thanks for the reply CPU. I've tried all the VSync settings: on, off, adaptive. None work. the game is running at twice speed, walks, idles, everything seems slightly pixelated.

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If happend ONLY in Skyrim and not happend in others games must be some game configuration.

 

As i know, overclocking a machine can give you from 10% to 15% more performance at temperature cost.

Better increments are only posible with liquid refrigeration. Double performance at home is near imposible.

 

I think in a problem in the savegame. Start a NEW GAME and look if problem persist.

Can be a problem in an incorrect INI setting. Try correct it with BethIni.

Open BethIni and select ENB mode and recomended Tweaks. Press High and save/exit.

[oldrayzor]

2 hours ago, LT Roarke said:

[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=true
FPSLimit=60.0 

Yes, all these are set.

 

  Here are the {Memory] settings. I used a recommended app, can't remember the name - quite a while ago, to get the actual readings of the VideoRenderingSize

 

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[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true
ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024
VideoMemorySizeMb=3714
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

 

Thanks for any help you can provide.

[Roarke]

I have an i7-6700 cpu and GTX 1080. These are the settings I use:

 

 

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=64
VideoMemorySizeMb=15874
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

 

 

To set your VideoMemorySizeMb, use the VRamSizeTest tool to run VRamSizeDX9.exe and subtract 350 from that number (If running Windows 10.)

 

Check your NVIDIA Control Panel to make sure Skyrim.exe has Vertical Sync as Use 3D Application Setting.

[GenioMaestro]

45 minutes ago, oldrayzor said:

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true
ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024
VideoMemorySizeMb=3714
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

Your settings are bad... sorry... http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory

 

Use ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024 is not recomended... that memory, 1024 mb == 1gb, is reserved for swap and used ONLY for swap. That memory block is reserved in Vram and RAM.

 

You have 8gb of RAM, and that appeat by your VideoMemorySizeMb=3714

Your Operating System need 2gb, whit a reserved of 1 gb you lost 3gb or the 25% of your RAM.

If you have a video card with 4gb of Vram you lost the 25% of the Vram and left only 3gb for the real use inside the game.

Is recomended put ReservedMemorySizeMb in the lower posible value without stuttering.

An that is, normally, from 256 to 512.

 

Is not recomended EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true and only must be used as last resort.

 

22 minutes ago, LT Roarke said:

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=64
VideoMemorySizeMb=15874
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

SAME... Your settings are bad... sorry... http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory

 

If you use Crash Fixes 12 you cant use ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true

 

Read that i write about ReservedMemorySizeMb, but have it in 64mb is TOO LOW... the default is 128

Is recomended use from 256 to 512.

 

If you set the VideoMemorySizeMb manually you must put AutodetectVideoMemorySize=FALSE

I not know what value are ussing your ENB. Can be the ReservedMemorySizeMb or can be the AutoDetected.

[oldrayzor]

2 hours ago, LT Roarke said:

Check your NVIDIA Control Panel to make sure Skyrim.exe has Vertical Sync as Use 3D Application Setting.

Oh, forgot to mention, tried that as well. Apologies.

3 hours ago, LT Roarke said:

BTW, if you are using ENBoost and your image appears pixelated, it might be that you aren't using an ENB preset. Find one on Nexus and follow the installation instructions. I use Tetrachromatic on my build

Sorry, I used the term pixelated in the arcane sense - single-frame animation of live-action people. I will need to do something. I set-up my own enb a year ago, cut & paste. And I have so many things lingering. I tried changing a couple of times and was really disabled. I love the results of SweetFX w/ RLO and don't have much interest in weather effects. But I am going to do a backup and try your recommendation of Tetrachromatic. Fingers crossed.

 

Thanks guys. I may be back in the morning. ?

[oldrayzor]

2 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

If you use Crash Fixes 12 you cant use ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true 

Wow, first I heard of this. Thanks.

 

So

2 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

You have 8gb of RAM, and that appeat by your VideoMemorySizeMb=3714 

Your Operating System need 2gb, whit a reserved of 1 gb you lost 3gb or the 25% of your RAM.

If you have a video card with 4gb of Vram you lost the 25% of the Vram and left only 3gb for the real use inside the game. 

Is recomended put ReservedMemorySizeMb in the lower posible value without stuttering.

An that is, normally, from 256 to 512. 

Having a little trouble following this. So if I change to the settings (yes, I have Crash fixes and will check version) to the following, you approve?

 

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb=3714
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

 

There is 8gb on both (each) the Video card and the computer.

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, oldrayzor said:

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true

as GenioMaestro said already:

 

expandsystemmemoryx64=false

AND

activate the memory allocator patch of crash fixes in CrashFixPlugin.ini
UseOSAllocators=1

 

AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true  => false

because you set it manually via VideoMemorySizeMb=3714

 

I use EnableCompression=true

 

 

btw, I had that skyrim runs 2x times faster issue too:

1th cause: Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice installed with NMM

2nd cause: Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice was broken/overwritten

solution: reinstalled/installed manually

[Andy14]

How is your FPS?
Maybe only the timescale is adjusted.
Default should be 20.

You can set it in the console with set timescale

[oldrayzor]

 Quite a morning. Okay, so the audio stacking is simply due to the game running fast and triggering the audio cue before the audio has played out. So the main issue is the game speed.

 

20 hours ago, LT Roarke said:

I use Tetrachromatic on my build.

First removed all enb ( ENB FXAA SweetFX Manager & Remover Mod ) and installed Tetrachromatic . Didn't Change the speed issue.

Then I thought WTF, and removed all ENB and ran Skyrim from the launcher. The 2X continued. So I thought, maybe I F***k-up the game itself (?). So uninstalled and re-installed in the event of extra-natural intervention. Ran again from the launcher (no ENB and  no mods). Still 2x! I'm at a complete loss. Can't imagine anything effecting speed in any Skyrim ini.

 

Perhaps SKSE.ini?

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[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
EnableDiagnostics=1

[Display]

iTintTextureResolution=2048

[Memory]

defaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768

scrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

Also, I won't rule out that I have littered my Skyrim directory over the year trying to overcome the massive learning curve. I can't say I know all files which belong and which are simply residue of my ineptness

 

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17 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

btw, I had that skyrim runs 2x times faster issue too:

1th cause: Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice installed with NMM

2nd cause: Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice was broken/overwritten

solution: reinstalled/installed manually 

Yes, even ran from launcher with no ENB, no mods, no FUZ RO D-oh.

 

[GenioMaestro]

18 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

I think in a problem in the savegame. Start a NEW GAME and look if problem persist.

Can be a problem in an incorrect INI setting. Try correct it with BethIni.

Open BethIni and select ENB mode and recomended Tweaks. Press High and save/exit.

Maybe you not see my message???

[oldrayzor]

GenioMaster, thanks for the reply. All testing have been conducted with a new game. I am currently trying to run the game vanilla with non enb and no mods. Will this still help?

 

2 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

I think in a problem in the savegame. Start a NEW GAME and look if problem persist. 

Can be a problem in an incorrect INI setting. Try correct it with BethIni.

Open BethIni and select ENB mode and recomended Tweaks. Press High and save/exit.

 

[Psalam]

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53 minutes ago, oldrayzor said:

GenioMaster, thanks for the reply. All testing have been conducted with a new game. I am currently trying to run the game vanilla with non enb and no mods. Will this still help?

 

 

 

 

Bethini is a good idea for managing your .ini files whether you are having a problem or not.

[oldrayzor]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

Bethini is a good idea for managing your .ini files whether you are having a problem or not. 

Oh, I agree. FYI - for simply running the vanilla (no enb, no mods) it doesn't actually do anything that can't be done in the options dialog of the launcher.

[oldrayzor]

16 hours ago, Andy14 said:

How is your FPS?
Maybe only the timescale is adjusted.
Default should be 20.

You can set it in the console with set timescale

Thanks Andy14. Yes, I've tried the timescale adjustments. I don't know the fps presently, so will need to go back and remember how to use FRAPS. Will do so.

[GenioMaestro]

38 minutes ago, oldrayzor said:

Oh, I agree. FYI - for simply running the vanilla (no enb, no mods) it doesn't actually do anything that can't be done in the options dialog of the launcher.

Oh... NOOOO... BethIni can AUTOMATICALLY change a lot of values in a lot of lines in Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPref.ini when you click over a preset.

For that i say: Open BethIni and select ENB mode and recomended Tweaks. Press High and save/exit.

When i say "Press High and save/exit." i tell you select the high preset and that can change a lot of parameters in the INI files. 

If your problem is related to a fail in the INI files probably can be solved.

 

Other option, of course, is delete your ini files and launch the game. That generate new INI files with default values.

 

If you have the problem in a Vanilla game whitout mod's and whitout SKSE only can be a problem in the INI files, imo, of course.

[oldrayzor]

1 hour ago, GenioMaestro said:

Other option, of course, is delete your ini files and launch the game. That generate new INI files with default values.

Thanks. Will try this. Will delete the "Skyrim.ini" and "SkyrimPref.ini" and then run game with no enb or mods installed from launcher.

[oldrayzor]

4 hours ago, oldrayzor said:

Can't imagine anything effecting speed in any Skyrim ini. 

Well, I was wrong. It is in one of them so will check the backups I made and see which setting effects speed and had caused the 2X Time. Guess I'm back to freezing and crashing and all around loathsome performance.

 

@GenioMaestro, thank you so much for the assistance. You're tops! ?

 

[GenioMaestro]

4 hours ago, oldrayzor said:

Well, I was wrong. It is in one of them so will check the backups I made and see which setting effects speed and had caused the 2X Time. Guess I'm back to freezing and crashing and all around loathsome performance.

 

@GenioMaestro, thank you so much for the assistance. You're tops! ?

 

You make all the logical steps... 

You have a problem and ask about it. When not get solution you start remove mod's, SKSE and ENB.

When you are in a vanilla skyrim and the problem persist only can be the INI files.

Maybe BethIni can solve it or maybe not.

 

But really... i not know what value in the INI files can double the game speed.

If you found it can be a great help for a lot of users.

 

In other side, if you have CTD and freezing and performance problems the solution is install the stability tools.

Install this if you not have it:

SKSE Memory Patch

Crash Fixes 12

ENB in Boot mode.

 

If the problem persist use BethIni as indicated before.

Revise your mod list and look for old depencies or un-updated mods or faulting compatibility patches.

Put your mod list if need help.

 

Some additional tunning can be made in the configuration if the problems persist.

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But today the game must not crash never. I play for 2,3,4 consecutive hours with none problem.

Normally i have near 200 plugins, some times 180 and others times 220.

Half of my mods come from this site and some are heavy script intensive.

I have sexlab+creatures+SLSO, SOS, MME, DD, PSQ, PAHE+HSH+AYGAS,Virgin, Apropos, Wet function...

In some games i carry from 5 to 15 personaliced followers like Serana, Beastes, Mrisi, Sasy, Giada...

And i not have a super computer. This machine is 4 years old with a simple gtx 660 with 2gb of Vram.

But i can play in full HD 1920x1080 at 50-60 fps all the time. Drop to half when have 10 or 15 npc's in sex.

 

[oldrayzor]

 

18 hours ago, GenioMaestro said:

If you found it can be a great help for a lot of users. 

Okay, the culprit was...ME!!! Well, in so far that I altered the FPS limit in enblocal.ini to 60 after playing for months at 30 and FORGOT to alter the iFPSClamp=30 in Skyrim.ini. Should have been obvious but I simply forgot. Sooo, after removing the enb and everything, skyrim defaults to 60 thus maintaining the double time. It is interesting because you can actually fuss around with these 2 settings to perk up the game speed a little if you like, but the audio remains at normal speed while the dialog cue accelerates which will cause dialog-overlay.

 

@GenioMaestro

I truly appreciate your help. It appears to be performing better but I continue to have a slight stutter at cell changes (not terrible) but would like to correct this if possible.

 

Currently, I have enb injector installed but no enb preset, and ran BethINI. Then made necessary changes:

 

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ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb=3714
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

 

I added "SKSE_loader.exe" to the enbinjector.ini but still receive the following error when running SKSE.

 

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Anyway to remove this warning or is it even working?

 

 

What I would like is to run from the Helgen exit down the path to the standing stones without any stutter. There are 5 or 6 cell changes along the way, so if I can make that with this essential mod list, then I would be happy. Presently I have slight stutter at the cell changes (even without the mods). And I don't know why. If I accomplish this than I will consider an enb preset (probably SweetFX).

 

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I have multiple profiles, many with well over 200 mods, but all use this "Essential" as a base (including 2K textures). I would like to set everything up to work with these essential plug-ins and be stutter free. Some profiles have only these plug-ins with added DLC size quests while others are blown-out Skyrim enhancements with many replacers (NPCs, Cities, Outfits, Weapons, etc). Then there are the, um, shall we say "SASSY" profiles which include various SL mods, SOS and HDT extension.

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Mors Feminine Females - All.esp
FISS.esp
FNIS.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
NoRoadPredators.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers - Brighter Nights.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp
Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
AOS.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
Quest Eraser.esp
iHUD.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Paralysis.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
DungeonQuestAwarenessRedux.esp
Realistic AI Detection 2 Lite.esp
Random Encounter Tweaks.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Atlas Legendary.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SimpleTeleport.esp
FNISspells.esp
Fossilsyum.esp
mihailhammerfellimports.esp
Follower Map Markers.esp
Follower Map Marker-Beacon Version.esp
GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp
Follower Map Markers-DB.esp
Follower Map Markers-DG.esp
Follower Map Markers-HF.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
10XCarryWeight.esp
LPSleep.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
NoCooldownShoutsDLC2.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp
OrcFemaleWalk.esp
Orcs are Strong.esp
orc-female-idle-fix.esp
DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
SkyUI.esp
UIExtensions.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
Skill Config.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
VariedCouriers.esp
CourierShowsDelivery.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
NARC.esp
NoNakedComments.esp
No NPC Greetings.esp
WIThief01Script.esp
CRNNx1.esp
Paarthurnax_Bypass.esp
GetBothRewardsSeries.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Brows.esp
HertFix.esp
HertVampireFixedVanilla.esp
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
Immersive Horses - Vanilla.esp
Immersive Horses.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
MIDFollowMeCloser.esp
RDO - iAFT Patch.esp

 

[GenioMaestro]

2 hours ago, oldrayzor said:

Okay, the culprit was...ME!!! Well, in so far that I altered the FPS limit in enblocal.ini to 60 after playing for months at 30 and FORGOT to alter the iFPSClamp=30 in Skyrim.ini. Should have been obvious but I simply forgot. Sooo, after removing the enb and everything, skyrim defaults to 60 thus maintaining the double time. It is interesting because you can actually fuss around with these 2 settings to perk up the game speed a little if you like, but the audio remains at normal speed while the dialog cue accelerates which will cause dialog-overlay.

I always think the IFPSClamp only work in Fallout 4 and SSE. I not know that works in Legenday.

I test it and is TRUE... WORKS... Exactly as you say... Is too fun...

https://forum.step-project.com/topic/7989-skyrim-ini-guide/?p=127300

 

Some people say that is a tunning for solve sttutering.

But i always solve the sttutering changing the ReservedMemorySizeMb in enblocal.ini

Try put ReservedMemorySizeMb=512

 

Another setting that can affect the stuttering is EnableCompression=true

Some video cards works better with EnableCompression=FALSE

 

And put ExpandSystemMemoryX64=FALSE

As already say crash fixes 12 NEED ExpandSystemMemoryX64=FALSE 

 

The only bad thing that i see in your load order is Realistic Lighting Overhaul.

Appear that you are ussing version 4 with 7 esp's

I recomend you update to the version 5 with 2 esp's