DurianDoxx Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 I'm at my wits end trying to get this to work. I'm probably doing something horribly stupid with the amount of animation packs and such that it can no longer load. I had recently installed: Sexlab Pheromone SLAL Billyy Animations SLAL Leito Animations MoreNastyCritters I was doing this in an attempt to get Sexlab Parasites to work, but it ended up completely wrecking my skyrim and all saves and attempts at new games. I attempted using Papyrus to discern the issue, but it turns out I fucked it even more I tried AstroGrep, still no luck. I'm including my Skyrim load order from NMM and an attempt at sorting my most recent papyrus. I am probably missing something so major but I'm probably just dumb and destroyed a whole lot of everything LoadOrder_Skyrim_2018-10-27T21-43-55.txt Papyrus.0.log Edit: P.S. Yeah, I know the mod loader is fucked up, I ran Boss and forgot to LOOT it back to normal
KoolHndLuke Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 First- you're not stupid. Skyrim modding requires people to learn many things to hope to make their game stable- often by doing things the wrong way first. Some people have spent years building their game and getting it stable! Others never do and give up. If you follow basic modding rules outlined by STEP and others you will be able to start adding more and more complex mods right up to the limit. The basic premise here is to learn a bit about how the game works and then how mods work with it and take baby steps. Ignore your papyrus logs for now until you learn much more about basic modding. Second- When you download and install mods, check each mod one by one to make sure it is installed and working correctly. It is easy to make mistakes and NMM is not the most reliable mod manager. Never remove a mod and try to use that save again- it will not work (it might for awhile but not long). You can install mods in your game and keep using the same character saves to test things- just make a "hard" save before installing and using a new mod so you have something to fall back on when/if things go wrong- and they will. Third- You have the legendary edition with all dlc, so you need the USLEEP patch from Nexus. Forth- Use LOOT to sort your plugins!!! It will get your load order close to where you need it and then you might need to go back and move some things manually. Loot is not perfect, but, it will help you tremendously. Fifth- Too many animations will cause your game to not load normally. You can either load into a safe cell first (use Alternate Start starting cell) and then your most recent save. Or you can try to use Crash Fixes and see if that helps. Sixth- Download and use TESVEdit to make a merged patch. You will need to do some reading to learn how. This will help patch mods to work together and make your game more stable. Gamer Poets on youtube have good vids on this. Seventh- Download and use Wryebash to make a bashed patch. Also will take time to learn. This will patch your leveled lists and make your game more stable. Again, I watched Gamer Poets to learn how. Last- After you do all of those steps and your game is running without that many problems, you can follow basic guides to make your game run smooth as butter- depending on your system specs. I would take a look at installing and using ENB and ENBoost in particular. Good luck!! One more thing. If you get stuck on something about Skyrim- mod some other Beth game for awhile like FO4. That way you won't get frustrated and give up. Also, some things you learn about modding other Beth games can be applied to Skyrim.
Grey Cloud Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Good enough advice from KHL but I wouldn't bother with merged and bashed patches. I've never needed them and my game is very stable. Also I've never heard a convincing reason why they are necessary. I'm a bit worried that you mentioned BOSS in the OP. You should not be using that. Your load order is a mess. Run LOOT on it. LOOT should be running from inside NMM. How many animations does FNIS say you have? Post your load order (or any other files) directly into your post. With LOOT you can use the three vertical dots in the top right corner to get your load order. Here in the reply box type [ spoiler ] without the spaces. Hit return. Paste your text or drag an image (jpg). Hit return. Type [ /spoiler ] without the spaces but with the forward slash.
DurianDoxx Posted October 28, 2018 Author Posted October 28, 2018 Yeah i ran LOOT right after I posted this. It should be cleaner now, though the problem persists. I tried starting up a new game with alternate start but that crashes as well I have: 9468 animations for 39 mods successfully included (character) 2188 animations for 9 mods and 42 creatures successfully included. My Load Order 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Falskaar.esm 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm 9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm 10 a AOM.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c ZaZAnimationPack.esm 13 d moonpath.esm 14 e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 15 f SexLab.esm 16 10 SexLabAroused.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 OSA.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 22 16 CreatureFramework.esm 23 17 HighResTexturePack01.esp 24 18 HighResTexturePack02.esp 25 19 HighResTexturePack03.esp 26 1a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Death Mountain part2.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 27 1b AMatterOfTime.esp 28 1c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 29 1d Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 30 1e Immersive Jewelry.esp DarkTower.esp 31 1f Dragon Falls Manor.esp 32 20 SoS - The Wilds.esp 33 21 SoS - Civilization.esp 34 22 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 35 23 AOM.esp 36 24 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 37 25 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 38 26 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp 39 27 Convertible Azura's Star.esp 40 28 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 41 29 RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp 42 2a UIExtensions.esp 43 2b SkyUI.esp 44 2c iHUD.esp 45 2d Bikini-MTM.esp 46 2e MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 47 2f Undeath.esp 48 30 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 49 31 ub_cell_bedroom.esp 50 32 ub_cell_dislayroom.esp 51 33 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 52 34 ub_cell_cavern.esp 53 35 ub_cell_maintenance_room.esp 54 36 ub_cell_kitchen.esp 55 37 ub_cell_teleportroom.esp 56 38 DragonTreeTemple.esp Kynesguard.esp 57 39 MoreNastyCritters.esp 58 3a SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 59 3b SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 60 3c SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 61 3d HentaiCreatures.esp 62 3e zMirai.esp 63 3f Cloaks.esp 64 40 Craftable Artifacts.esp 65 41 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp Daedric Lord Armor.esp 66 42 Immersive Weapons.esp 67 43 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp 68 44 Longbows.esp 69 45 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 70 46 zDeadlyPleasures.esp 71 47 haafinheim.esp 72 48 moonpath_questdata.esp 73 49 Immersive Wenches.esp 74 4a Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp 75 4b Darklilith.esp Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp 76 4c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 77 4d Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 78 4e NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp 79 4f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp KatanaCrafting.esp 80 50 LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp 81 51 LeftHandRings.esp 82 52 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 83 53 LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp 84 54 LongbowsIWpatch.esp LongbowFS.esp 85 55 NN_ElvishDresses.esp 86 56 nordicrangerarmor.esp 87 57 Northgirl.esp 88 58 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp 89 59 ViceroyInquisitor.esp 90 5a ub_npc_rework.esp 91 5b ub_cell_armory.esp 92 5c WeightlessGold.esp 93 5d SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 94 5e SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 95 5f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 96 60 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 97 61 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 98 62 zzEstrus.esp 99 63 EstrusChaurus.esp 100 64 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 101 65 Dragonbone Marauder armor.esp 102 66 imp_helm_legend.esp 103 67 Immersive Patrols II.esp 104 68 Deadly Wenches.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 105 69 FrostvaleEstate.esp 106 6a dragonsoulstoperks.esp 107 6b SofiaFollower.esp 108 6c LongbowsDG.esp 109 6d Faction Crossbows.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp 110 6e SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 111 6f Mannequin.esp 112 70 SexLab-Parasites.esp 113 71 Dreamborne Islands.esp 114 72 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 115 73 More Craftables.esp 116 74 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 117 75 Wynter.esp 118 76 KNM_Mour.esp 119 77 ForgottenCity.esp 120 78 Yuriana'sBigBootyAdventure.esp 121 79 SexLab Pheromones.esp 122 7a Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 123 7b YurianaWench.esp 124 7c SOS - Shop.esp 125 7d ApotheosisDemo.esp 126 7e Haem Projects Tel Mos.esp 127 7f SexLab_Hormones.esp 128 80 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp 129 81 LongbowsDB.esp 130 82 Longbows&Crossbows.esp 131 83 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp 132 84 TAINVALE.esp 133 85 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp TropicalIslands.esp 134 86 Tirashan.esp 135 87 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp 136 88 Mara's Island.esp 137 89 SteelPlateBikini.esp 138 8a BandedIronBikini.esp 139 8b DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 140 8c Dwarvenbikini.esp 141 8d AzurasStarPendant.esp 142 8e RosaFollower.esp 143 8f Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 144 90 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 145 91 Skill Config.esp 146 92 OverflowingEnchant.esp 147 93 Animated Enchantments.esp BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp 148 94 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 149 95 Serana.esp 150 96 Valerica.esp 151 97 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 152 98 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 153 99 Purewaters.esp 154 9a FollowerCompatibility.esp 155 9b LindsSpellslinger.esp 156 9c dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 157 9d SeverinManorIsYourOwnHome.esp 158 9e LindsRobesPack01.esp 159 9f SLAnimLoader.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp comvex-hmpriestess.esp 160 a0 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 161 a1 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 162 a2 ub_tapestry.esp 163 a3 ub_invite_any_npc.esp 164 a4 LindsMerEyes.esp 165 a5 VelvetRobesandCloaks.esp 166 a6 VioLens.esp 167 a7 Luna_GoV.esp 168 a8 morebountygold.esp 169 a9 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp 170 aa ElementalArrows.esp 171 ab Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 172 ac LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp 173 ad FertilityMode.esp 174 ae KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 175 af LindsHumanEyes.esp 176 b0 Marie Follower - Vampire.esp 177 b1 VampireJewelry.esp 178 b2 Breathing Rose.esp 179 b3 SteelBikini.esp 180 b4 LorkhanMoonlightGreatsword.esp 181 b5 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 182 b6 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp 183 b7 Northern Priestess - EX.esp 184 b8 EnchantedArsenal.esp Fudou Myouou.esp 185 b9 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 186 ba SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 187 bb mihailhealingorb.esp 188 bc DBCO_ALL_IN_ONE.esp 189 bd MashiraUndressSpell.esp 190 be Enhanced Bound Weapons.esp 191 bf ShadowSpellPackage.esp 192 c0 AddItemMenu2.esp 193 c1 Dragonbone Marauder armor Addon.esp 194 c2 Bijin Wives.esp AncientTonguesSword.esp AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp MiraaksGearOverhaul.esp Vikings Weaponry - Johnskyrim.esp Vikings Weaponry LL - Johnskyrim.esp 195 c3 Toccata.esp 196 c4 12FemaleBrows.esp 197 c5 FNIS.esp 198 c6 ElvenChainMail.esp 199 c7 XPMSE.esp 200 c8 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 201 c9 C5Kev's Hermaeus Mora Tomes.esp WestWindMisfit.esp 202 ca MXMaxAllSkills.esp 203 cb ErynielElfV2.esp 204 cc Daedric Reaper Armor.esp 205 cd TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 206 ce Tanya.esp 207 cf AnimatedParasites.esp 208 d0 KomAnimObjects.esp 209 d1 HDTSextoys.esp 210 d2 FreckleMania2.esp 211 d3 Toccata as Elisif.esp 212 d4 big_helmetless_perks_sp0.esp 213 d5 Bijin NPCs.esp 214 d6 SexLab Strapon.esp 215 d7 Alice.esp 216 d8 Amber.esp 217 d9 Jennifer.esp 218 da Rebekah.esp 219 db SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 220 dc SOS - ERF Horse Penis UUNP - Addon.esp 221 dd SexLabTools.esp 222 de SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp 223 df SlaveTats.esp 224 e0 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 225 e1 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 226 e2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Thank you to you and whoever else may attempt at helping this mess
worik Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 NMM is not the best tool (except for the most experienced) to install, reorder or deinstall anything in the middle of a game. You want to try out mods? Make COMPLETE copies of your Skyrim/data and conduct your experiments there .... or just use different tools for these. Back to your first problem at hand. My view on it: Your animation count sounds like you're walking on a razors edge, especially combined with the names of some of your mods. I take it for granted you DID check that all mods meet their requirements, prerequisites, version compatabiities, etc... ? If not : do it try again IF you can start a new game with your current load order, it might be a good idea to check your old save file and clean that. Cleaning the skse co-save might help too IF you can't start a stable new game at all ( a single CTD may happen, repeat to be sure) , you might think about the radical cut: save you old Skyrim/data in a backup ( because one ALWAYS has a backup before doing ANYTHING) write down all your mods and their assumed good load order drop your Skyrim reinstall skyrim reinstall all your mods in the sequence of your intended load order (all this tedious effort because you are using NMM) start a new game or try out your old save. If uncle Sheogorath is having a good day, it might even work now. hope for the best
Psalam Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 Spoiler 2 hours ago, ShinRyxx said: Yeah i ran LOOT right after I posted this. It should be cleaner now, though the problem persists. I tried starting up a new game with alternate start but that crashes as well I have: 9468 animations for 39 mods successfully included (character) 2188 animations for 9 mods and 42 creatures successfully included. My Load Order Reveal hidden contents 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Falskaar.esm 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairMales.esm 9 9 RaceCompatibility.esm 10 a AOM.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c ZaZAnimationPack.esm 13 d moonpath.esm 14 e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 15 f SexLab.esm 16 10 SexLabAroused.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 OSA.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 20 14 UndergroundBathhouse.esm 21 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 22 16 CreatureFramework.esm 23 17 HighResTexturePack01.esp 24 18 HighResTexturePack02.esp 25 19 HighResTexturePack03.esp 26 1a RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Death Mountain part2.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 27 1b AMatterOfTime.esp 28 1c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 29 1d Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 30 1e Immersive Jewelry.esp DarkTower.esp 31 1f Dragon Falls Manor.esp 32 20 SoS - The Wilds.esp 33 21 SoS - Civilization.esp 34 22 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 35 23 AOM.esp 36 24 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 37 25 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 38 26 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp 39 27 Convertible Azura's Star.esp 40 28 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 41 29 RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp 42 2a UIExtensions.esp 43 2b SkyUI.esp 44 2c iHUD.esp 45 2d Bikini-MTM.esp 46 2e MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 47 2f Undeath.esp 48 30 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 49 31 ub_cell_bedroom.esp 50 32 ub_cell_dislayroom.esp 51 33 ub_cell_darkarea.esp 52 34 ub_cell_cavern.esp 53 35 ub_cell_maintenance_room.esp 54 36 ub_cell_kitchen.esp 55 37 ub_cell_teleportroom.esp 56 38 DragonTreeTemple.esp Kynesguard.esp 57 39 MoreNastyCritters.esp 58 3a SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 59 3b SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 60 3c SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 61 3d HentaiCreatures.esp 62 3e zMirai.esp 63 3f Cloaks.esp 64 40 Craftable Artifacts.esp 65 41 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp Daedric Lord Armor.esp 66 42 Immersive Weapons.esp 67 43 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp 68 44 Longbows.esp 69 45 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 70 46 zDeadlyPleasures.esp 71 47 haafinheim.esp 72 48 moonpath_questdata.esp 73 49 Immersive Wenches.esp 74 4a Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp 75 4b Darklilith.esp Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp 76 4c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 77 4d Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 78 4e NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.esp 79 4f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp KatanaCrafting.esp 80 50 LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp 81 51 LeftHandRings.esp 82 52 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp 83 53 LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp 84 54 LongbowsIWpatch.esp LongbowFS.esp 85 55 NN_ElvishDresses.esp 86 56 nordicrangerarmor.esp 87 57 Northgirl.esp 88 58 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp 89 59 ViceroyInquisitor.esp 90 5a ub_npc_rework.esp 91 5b ub_cell_armory.esp 92 5c WeightlessGold.esp 93 5d SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 94 5e SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 95 5f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 96 60 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 97 61 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 98 62 zzEstrus.esp 99 63 EstrusChaurus.esp 100 64 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 101 65 Dragonbone Marauder armor.esp 102 66 imp_helm_legend.esp 103 67 Immersive Patrols II.esp 104 68 Deadly Wenches.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 105 69 FrostvaleEstate.esp 106 6a dragonsoulstoperks.esp 107 6b SofiaFollower.esp 108 6c LongbowsDG.esp 109 6d Faction Crossbows.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp 110 6e SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 111 6f Mannequin.esp 112 70 SexLab-Parasites.esp 113 71 Dreamborne Islands.esp 114 72 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 115 73 More Craftables.esp 116 74 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 117 75 Wynter.esp 118 76 KNM_Mour.esp 119 77 ForgottenCity.esp 120 78 Yuriana'sBigBootyAdventure.esp 121 79 SexLab Pheromones.esp 122 7a Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 123 7b YurianaWench.esp 124 7c SOS - Shop.esp 125 7d ApotheosisDemo.esp 126 7e Haem Projects Tel Mos.esp 127 7f SexLab_Hormones.esp 128 80 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp 129 81 LongbowsDB.esp 130 82 Longbows&Crossbows.esp 131 83 Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp 132 84 TAINVALE.esp 133 85 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp TropicalIslands.esp 134 86 Tirashan.esp 135 87 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp 136 88 Mara's Island.esp 137 89 SteelPlateBikini.esp 138 8a BandedIronBikini.esp 139 8b DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 140 8c Dwarvenbikini.esp 141 8d AzurasStarPendant.esp 142 8e RosaFollower.esp 143 8f Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 144 90 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 145 91 Skill Config.esp 146 92 OverflowingEnchant.esp 147 93 Animated Enchantments.esp BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp 148 94 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 149 95 Serana.esp 150 96 Valerica.esp 151 97 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 152 98 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 153 99 Purewaters.esp 154 9a FollowerCompatibility.esp 155 9b LindsSpellslinger.esp 156 9c dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp 157 9d SeverinManorIsYourOwnHome.esp 158 9e LindsRobesPack01.esp 159 9f SLAnimLoader.esp Cassandra Frost Witch.esp comvex-hmpriestess.esp 160 a0 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 161 a1 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp 162 a2 ub_tapestry.esp 163 a3 ub_invite_any_npc.esp 164 a4 LindsMerEyes.esp 165 a5 VelvetRobesandCloaks.esp 166 a6 VioLens.esp 167 a7 Luna_GoV.esp 168 a8 morebountygold.esp 169 a9 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp 170 aa ElementalArrows.esp 171 ab Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 172 ac LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp 173 ad FertilityMode.esp 174 ae KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 175 af LindsHumanEyes.esp 176 b0 Marie Follower - Vampire.esp 177 b1 VampireJewelry.esp 178 b2 Breathing Rose.esp 179 b3 SteelBikini.esp 180 b4 LorkhanMoonlightGreatsword.esp 181 b5 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 182 b6 Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp 183 b7 Northern Priestess - EX.esp 184 b8 EnchantedArsenal.esp Fudou Myouou.esp 185 b9 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 186 ba SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 187 bb mihailhealingorb.esp 188 bc DBCO_ALL_IN_ONE.esp 189 bd MashiraUndressSpell.esp 190 be Enhanced Bound Weapons.esp 191 bf ShadowSpellPackage.esp 192 c0 AddItemMenu2.esp 193 c1 Dragonbone Marauder armor Addon.esp 194 c2 Bijin Wives.esp AncientTonguesSword.esp AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp MiraaksGearOverhaul.esp Vikings Weaponry - Johnskyrim.esp Vikings Weaponry LL - Johnskyrim.esp 195 c3 Toccata.esp 196 c4 12FemaleBrows.esp 197 c5 FNIS.esp 198 c6 ElvenChainMail.esp 199 c7 XPMSE.esp 200 c8 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp 201 c9 C5Kev's Hermaeus Mora Tomes.esp WestWindMisfit.esp 202 ca MXMaxAllSkills.esp 203 cb ErynielElfV2.esp 204 cc Daedric Reaper Armor.esp 205 cd TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 206 ce Tanya.esp 207 cf AnimatedParasites.esp 208 d0 KomAnimObjects.esp 209 d1 HDTSextoys.esp 210 d2 FreckleMania2.esp 211 d3 Toccata as Elisif.esp 212 d4 big_helmetless_perks_sp0.esp 213 d5 Bijin NPCs.esp 214 d6 SexLab Strapon.esp 215 d7 Alice.esp 216 d8 Amber.esp 217 d9 Jennifer.esp 218 da Rebekah.esp 219 db SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 220 dc SOS - ERF Horse Penis UUNP - Addon.esp 221 dd SexLabTools.esp 222 de SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp 223 df SlaveTats.esp 224 e0 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 225 e1 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 226 e2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Thank you to you and whoever else may attempt at helping this mess 11500 animations is likely a problem but there is an easy way to find out. Uninstall or tick "off" one animation pack. It should get you below 10k. If it does and your problem persists it is not your animations. However, if you do and your problems disappear in a new game, well, at least you have your answer. Oh, oh, oh. Sorry, you have an old version of More Nasty Critters running. Step one will be to get rid of that and load the newer SLAL version. If you are not in the habit of carefully reading instructions you will get into problems doing this. It isn't hard but it is particular. Take your time and make sure you do it right the first time.
DurianDoxx Posted October 28, 2018 Author Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, worik said: NMM is not the best tool (except for the most experienced) to install, reorder or deinstall anything in the middle of a game. You want to try out mods? Make COMPLETE copies of your Skyrim/data and conduct your experiments there .... or just use different tools for these. Back to your first problem at hand. My view on it: Your animation count sounds like you're walking on a razors edge, especially combined with the names of some of your mods. I take it for granted you DID check that all mods meet their requirements, prerequisites, version compatabiities, etc... ? If not : do it try again IF you can start a new game with your current load order, it might be a good idea to check your old save file and clean that. Cleaning the skse co-save might help too IF you can't start a stable new game at all ( a single CTD may happen, repeat to be sure) , you might think about the radical cut: save you old Skyrim/data in a backup ( because one ALWAYS has a backup before doing ANYTHING) write down all your mods and their assumed good load order drop your Skyrim reinstall skyrim reinstall all your mods in the sequence of your intended load order (all this tedious effort because you are using NMM) start a new game or try out your old save. If uncle Sheogorath is having a good day, it might even work now. hope for the best Okay I would like to Praise the Loverslab Lord for allowing this to work again I followed your advice on the amount of animations I had and decided to drop KomAnimations and OSex and dropped toa bout 7330 aniumations and 2188 Creature animations. I don't know if it was that but I managed to get everything to work again. Luckily I didn't blow everything up, however I am running through a few errors with SLAL in which the menu doesn't even show up (I can click the button but not see the menu or animations loaded in). It maybe due to opening old files but I'll be looking into that for a bit.
KoolHndLuke Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: I wouldn't bother with merged and bashed patches Ever heard of "the rule of one"??? Mod A adds a new weapon to an npc. Mod B makes changes that same npc's appearance. Merged patch makes both changes show up in game and resolves conflicts. Same is true for leveled lists more or less.
Grey Cloud Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: Ever heard of "the rule of one"??? Mod A adds a new weapon to an npc. Mod B makes changes that same npc's appearance. Merged patch makes both changes show up in game and resolves conflicts. Same is true for leveled lists more or less. Like I said, I've never heard a convincing reason. I choose my mods carefully. I don't give a shit about new weapons - a sword is a sword is a sword; NPC appearance I can do by load order and/or TESVEdit and level lists I still don't understand what they do - my fights are difficult at level 1 and difficult at level 71.
KoolHndLuke Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Like I said, I've never heard a convincing reason. I choose my mods carefully. I don't give a shit about new weapons - a sword is a sword is a sword; NPC appearance I can do by load order and/or TESVEdit and level lists I still don't understand what they do - my fights are difficult at level 1 and difficult at level 71. Okay for example I use Convenient Horses and another mod that makes them turn better. Now if I load the turn better mod after Convenient Horses, it will overwrite some changes made by Convenient Horses in order for it to work properly- and might cause it to crash my game. If I load the turn better mod before Convenient Horses, then it will just be overwritten and I might as well not even have it. How do I fix this?- A merged patch will take the changes made by both mods and make them work together so that Convenient Horses works the way it is supposed to and my turn better mod works as well. In other words, they are "patched" to work together. Does this make more sense? This is how all patches for mods are made BTW.
Grey Cloud Posted October 28, 2018 Posted October 28, 2018 That's three mods you are using that I don't need. I don't have any two mods that require a third mod to do what one mod should do in the first place.
Tamsin Tabbz Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 I had this problem. I found out the source with Crash Fixes. It was because of too many animation mods, and I was approaching 7500. Reducing the amount of animations to a reasonable number worked for me.
Grey Cloud Posted October 30, 2018 Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Sarru-kin said: I had this problem. I found out the source with Crash Fixes. It was because of too many animation mods, and I was approaching 7500. Reducing the amount of animations to a reasonable number worked for me. I run over 12,000 animations without crashes. The OP has already lowered his animation count and his game now works.
Tamsin Tabbz Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 7:14 AM, Grey Cloud said: I run over 12,000 animations without crashes. The OP has already lowered his animation count and his game now works. I know, but I wanted to get that out there for anyone else having these issues if they came across this thread.
Grey Cloud Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, Sarru-kin said: I know, but I wanted to get that out there for anyone else having these issues if they came across this thread. If your game is dying with only 7500 animations then there is something wrong eslewhere.
Tamsin Tabbz Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 On 11/2/2018 at 6:47 PM, Grey Cloud said: If your game is dying with only 7500 animations then there is something wrong eslewhere. I use Crash fixes and it indicated that was the problem. Yeah, I have a shit computer. Reducing the amount of animations seemed to fix it.
GeezusCryst Posted November 6, 2018 Posted November 6, 2018 I had that problem I renamed the files and then it worked I think they ban some mod names to load on start up unless your not modding right
Pfiffy Posted November 6, 2018 Posted November 6, 2018 On 11/2/2018 at 11:47 PM, Grey Cloud said: If your game is dying with only 7500 animations then there is something wrong eslewhere. 20 hours ago, Sarru-kin said: I use Crash fixes and it indicated that was the problem. Yeah, I have a shit computer. Reducing the amount of animations seemed to fix it. It is not only the Anim count itself but the string count. Reducing the anims is just the easiest way to solve problems with it. If you don't have any other mods installed, you can run Skyrim with about 20000 Anims, even if SL might not be able to handel more of 500/500 anim sets in LE or 750/750 in SE. There seems to be a limit in the alternative animations, too.
Tamsin Tabbz Posted November 8, 2018 Posted November 8, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 2:44 AM, Pfiffy said: It is not only the Anim count itself but the string count. Reducing the anims is just the easiest way to solve problems with it. If you don't have any other mods installed, you can run Skyrim with about 20000 Anims, even if SL might not be able to handel more of 500/500 anim sets in LE or 750/750 in SE. There seems to be a limit in the alternative animations, too. Well, that's given me some insight! Thanks.
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