Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[Viri1]

11 minutes ago, aurreth said:

 

That's not a fourth wall break, that's Sloane directly talking to the player.  Is there any reason she shouldn't talk to another person who is standing there?

 

 

I was half in jest here. Sloane is obviously talking to the Dragonborn, but the dialogue felt way too real to me, I guess

 

11 minutes ago, aurreth said:

 

There was much discussion of this scene during testing, with several alternatives discussed.  Laura went with the one that she likes best.

 

 

Understood. But what I was wondering was

 

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Whether the hostility from Katarina was intentional, since stealth-killing Sloane does generate an outcome, so I assume that's a legit path but is currently bugged.

 

A few other things I remembered, plot wise:

 

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Holden spending the whole quest not believing Daubeny was funny.

 

And that girl who helped us? Who distracts the men both times we are in the cave, I forgot the number. I hope we see more of her someday. Now that she is free, I was thinking she might also get into adventures with us, there is a lot of potential here.

 

[aurreth]

16 minutes ago, Viri1 said:

 

And that girl who helped us? Who distracts the men both times we are in the cave, I forgot the number. I hope we see more of her someday. Now that she is free, I was thinking she might also get into adventures with us, there is a lot of potential here.

 

That's 27!  ? 

 

We've made many suggestions for her, including follower, where she periodically asks you to tie her up and punish her, and having her run a Laura's Furniture Store expansion.  Personally, I want her as the steward at one of my holdings ?

 

Of course, any of that would take a lot of work, and I expect @Laura will be taking a well-deserved break after the current crop of bugs gets ironed out.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

1 hour ago, Viri1 said:

When I kill Sloane, Laura cowers and Katarina attacks me. This doesn't happen if I do a stealth kill, upon which the outcome plays out normally (I chose to uphold this, sorry, I know Laura gets a bit upset, but I wasn't going to let her live). Or was there an actual legit way to trigger the death? 

Interesting, I didn't run into that because I instinctively stealthed before attacking her so that I could get a cool killmove out of it.    But I'd guess that Kat isn't supposed to go aggro on you.

[aurreth]

New patch added to my Assorted Patches thread:

 

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2.  Patch for The Great Forest of Whiterun Hold, removing some trees and stumps that were clipping through Laura's Shop.

 

 

[Hellethia_]

I just want to leave one note just in case, for mod compatibility:

At the start of the quest, once looking for

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the journal page #3

I had to search inside the floor with JK's Skyrim (or JK's Ivarstead), otherwise it's invisible
In case anyone need that info ^^

Edited December 30, 2022 by Hellethia_

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Just started playing again and saw that I still have a copy of all of Evelynn's gear and remembered that at one point I had two of everything.  I think I noticed right after leaving the cave and I got all my stuff back, because when I saw my SLS licenses arrive I put some clothes on and saw them.  So I'm not sure when I got the second copy, and when they were removed only one copy was taken.

[windowsdarilo]

Hey Hello !

 

Did you just upload version 3.40 ?

I'm on Wabbajack, and a pack asks for version 3.32, and i don't find it (except for RUS's & ESP's translation)

 

Could you make it available for download ? ?

 

In case it's me who's screwing up : Could you tell me how to access it ?

 

Big thanks, and good work ! 

[threp]

You also don't get Kata going aggro on you if you ...

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try doing the second option you are given.

 

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I kept her alive. A little judicious use of DM3 and a follower dressing mod and Laura has a nice new sign outside the shop, guest starring our favorite villain. Might wander back one year and release her.

 

[mikesolo1975]

thanks for the amazing work

The SE  version work with AE  1.6.353  version ?

Edited December 30, 2022 by mikesolo1975

[MountainDewGod]

Stuck

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Im at the part where it tells you to kill laura and katarina I enter the shop and then laura enters and says that sloan took katarina and nothing else and she cant take me to her. All the doors are locked and im not sure what else to do.

 

[Viri1]

9 minutes ago, carlos spicy wiener said:

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Im at the part where it tells you to kill laura and katarina I enter the shop and then laura enters and says that sloan took katarina and nothing else and she cant take me to her. All the doors are locked and im not sure what else to do.

 

At that part, you have to:

 

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Go touch the Thotium behind the counter (shiny rock in a display box, it should open for you)

 

[ForgottenGlory]

20 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

Hey Hello !

 

Did you just upload version 3.40 ?

I'm on Wabbajack, and a pack asks for version 3.32, and i don't find it (except for RUS's & ESP's translation)

 

Could you make it available for download ? ?

 

In case it's me who's screwing up : Could you tell me how to access it ?

 

Big thanks, and good work ! 

 

This can be disregarded, apologies to Laura.

[MountainDewGod]

4 minutes ago, Viri1 said:

At that part, you have to:

 

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Go touch the Thotium behind the counter (shiny rock in a display box, it should open for you)

 

This doesnt do anything and the display case is still locked

[aurreth]

17 minutes ago, mikesolo1975 said:

thanks for the amazing work

The SE  version work with AE  1.6.353  version ?

 

I converted it with Cathedral, it should work for any SE version as long as all the prerequisites are met, i.e., you have the versions of everything else that match your game version.

 

Honestly the only difference between the LE and SE versions has to do with mesh and textures.  Cathedral converts those from LE to SE.  All the scripts, etc. are, or should be, identical between LE and SE, because I did a crap load of work a year ago trying to figure out why they weren't ?  And then backported all the changes to LE to make sure nothing broke.

 

I won't promise anything as far as VR goes.  To the best of my knowledge no one ever tested for that, and I'm certainly not going to spend thousands of dollars for the computer and equipment to give it a try ?

 

[Viri1]

6 minutes ago, carlos spicy wiener said:

This doesnt do anything and the display case is still locked

 

 

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Can you confirm whether the conversation does end up mentioning the Thotium, saying you have to touch it? If so, try using the 'unlock' console command to open the box and touch it.

 

If not, well, does the Master even follow you to the shop? If not, try to make sure he is following you, use the "moveto player" console command if you have to.

 

If none of this works, I suppose playing with setstage might help you. Might

 

 

 

 

 

[aurreth]

32 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

Hey Hello !

 

Hello!

 

32 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

Did you just upload version 3.40 ?

 

Yes.

 

32 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

I'm on Wabbajack, and a pack asks for version 3.32, and i don't find it (except for RUS's & ESP's translation)

 

What's a Wabbajack?  And why would Laura upload her work to it?

 

32 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

Could you make it available for download ? ?

 

3.40 is available for download, including an SE conversion.  Go to the first page and click on "view file", then click the big, green download box.

 

32 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

In case it's me who's screwing up : Could you tell me how to access it ?

 

See above.

 

[windowsdarilo]

Wabbajack is a software that offers "modpacks" created by modders to offer a particular experience.

 

I try to recover version 3.32 of this mod because it is necessary in the download !

3.40 is not useful to me, only 3.32 ?

 

This kind of pack is downloaded a lot, and no doubt that others will post the same type of message as me, so i'm taking the lead x)

[Hex Bolt]

10 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

This kind of pack is downloaded a lot, and no doubt that others will post the same type of message as me, so i'm taking the lead x)

Or, rather than pester a mod author for an outdated version, you can go request that Wabbajack be updated to use the latest version, so players aren't stuck with an older one that lacks the latest features and bug fixes.

Edited December 30, 2022 by HexBolt8

[Laura]

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

Alright, finished the playthrough. My review (LE version, all requirements are updated):

 

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When the note mentioned the waterfall, I got sidetracked by going to the wrong one (northwest of Ivarstead) since that's the one more readily visible. Though I suppose the little line of bottles should've just made me walk around the lake, I blame my own dunceness.

 

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Don't blame yourself. I'll probably make that one a bit easier.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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When we are back at the cave, the first door is locked and no one opens it. Easy to fix with console commands, but yeah. Same for the cage we are initially led into, though it only happens the first time.

 

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I'll fix that.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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The overall minigame was a nice nostalgia of the first time we were in there. Though we can only interact with the chests after we set the other girl to distract Daubeny, otherwise, I get the "Karo is still around" message (even if he had wandered outside the tavern area). Everything works after I set the distraction, I'm just confused on whether that is intended or if Karo is breaking somewhere.

 

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It's a bit confusing. Sorry about that. He comes back but it take a long time and that makes it seem like he left.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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The whole plotline with the collar was very interesting. I guess that's one way to end the depravity in that cave. Good thing we can spare those two at the town. And the resolution via Thotium was funny. 

 

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2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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Before we choose Sloane's fate, she has a very interesting dialogue. The whole "Oh, you just helped them because it got you tied up every now and then" felt directly addressed at the player. Intended fourth wall break? Regardless, I was like "Just shut up man"

 

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Yes, kinda. It's directed at your character but also the player. I thought it would be fun if Sloane got under the player's skin too.

I don't think anyone clicked on a bondage shop mod for the story.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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When I kill Sloane, Laura cowers and Katarina attacks me. This doesn't happen if I do a stealth kill, upon which the outcome plays out normally (I chose to uphold this, sorry, I know Laura gets a bit upset, but I wasn't going to let her live). Or was there an actual legit way to trigger the death? 

 

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That's not supposed to happen.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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In terms of Laura character development, I loved the ending. How she frees herself from Sloane, wow

 

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Thank you.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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A few more League references.  Evelynn, Nidalee and Neeko, lol

 

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2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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Overall, it looks like to me this was a well executed end to the storyline, with minimal technical issues.

 

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2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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I'm still not sure why Jade tested that Thotium Collar on us on the previous update. Felt like there was something there but it never materialized, unless I forgot something from that previous update. 

 

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Well, when you get collared by Daubeny, she already seems to know what it does. Evelynn's collar was also a Thotium based collar like Sona says. Jade was researching it.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

 

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And while the key to Jade's belt was probably somewhere in the manor, I'm lowkey hoping she didn't actually find it and is pissed  

 

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?

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

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I'm hoping Laura, Katarina and the character get into more future adventures, this time with that dark burden cleared from those two!

 

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That's the idea.

 

2 hours ago, Viri1 said:

And a special side note:

 

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That final note from you when we finish it. Wow. I was floored. I hope this mod really did help you, and that me playing and reviewing contributed in any meaningful way.

 

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Thank you. And you did.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, aurreth said:

Ah, I see.  Take a look at the picture.  "Respawns" is checked.  I think this means that even if you unlock the door at the start of SQ10 it will relock when the cell resets.

 

You want to unlock the door either immediately prior to transporting the character to the cave in SQ10, or immediately after.  Probably after, so the unlock occurs after the cell is loaded.

I'm gonna move the code that opens it to after teleporting there. I also figured it had something to do with them getting unlocked in an unloaded area.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, aurreth said:

That's 27!  ? 

 

We've made many suggestions for her, including follower, where she periodically asks you to tie her up and punish her, and having her run a Laura's Furniture Store expansion.  Personally, I want her as the steward at one of my holdings ?

Oi, that was a secret. Not really though.

 

1 hour ago, aurreth said:

Of course, any of that would take a lot of work, and I expect @Laura will be taking a well-deserved break after the current crop of bugs gets ironed out.

That's the idea but I already know I'm not gonna be able to actually take that break.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

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Interesting, I didn't run into that because I instinctively stealthed before attacking her so that I could get a cool killmove out of it.    But I'd guess that Kat isn't supposed to go aggro on you.

 

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Good choice. I went for the killmove too.

 

 

 

 

55 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Just started playing again and saw that I still have a copy of all of Evelynn's gear and remembered that at one point I had two of everything.  I think I noticed right after leaving the cave and I got all my stuff back, because when I saw my SLS licenses arrive I put some clothes on and saw them.  So I'm not sure when I got the second copy, and when they were removed only one copy was taken.

That's weird. I'll take a look.

[SRZA]

Just now, HexBolt8 said:

Or, rather than pester a mod author for an updated version, you can go request that Wabbajack be updated to use the latest version, so players aren't stuck with an older one that lacks the latest features and bug fixes.

Now, tbf, that is what most of the list authors do, and there are rules to specifically, not bother creators or be banned. So I don't know why people keep coming to bother people. My advice to people is to just wait, its not a difficult fix, and the list author will fix it, but people can't wait a day for their tits it seems. 

[LunaPapilio]

15 minutes ago, windowsdarilo said:

Wabbajack is a software that offers "modpacks" created by modders to offer a particular experience.

 

I try to recover version 3.32 of this mod because it is necessary in the download !

3.40 is not useful to me, only 3.32 ?

 

This kind of pack is downloaded a lot, and no doubt that others will post the same type of message as me, so i'm taking the lead x)

And yet, we tell you not to bother mod authors about old versions. We update thing as soon as we can to keep things running smooth. We've nuked lists before because people like you aren't capable of following basic instructions written in crayon.

 

The ones that ask for old versions are actually very few in number, the majority can actually follow what we ask of them. A few of you seem to have clearly sniffed glue growing up and eaten crayons every day and very clearly you still do considering you are incapable of reading and listening. Are the crayons we write instructions in not the right color? Do they cause cataract somehow? I genuinely have no idea why it's so hard to follow the instructions.

 

If I had the authority to ban you off of this forum entirely I honestly would.

Edited December 30, 2022 by LunaPapilio

[LunaPapilio]

4 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Or, rather than pester a mod author for an outdated version, you can go request that Wabbajack be updated to use the latest version, so players aren't stuck with an older one that lacks the latest features and bug fixes.

For the record, we absolutely do update to latest versions as fast as we possibly can. We are genuinely sorry for these idiots.

[aurreth]

1 minute ago, windowsdarilo said:

Wabbajack is a software that offers "modpacks" created by modders to offer a particular experience.

 

I try to recover version 3.32 of this mod because it is necessary in the download !

3.40 is not useful to me, only 3.32 ?

 

This kind of pack is downloaded a lot, and no doubt that others will post the same type of message as me, so i'm taking the lead x)

 

250 pages in, I think this is the first time it's mentioned.  The vast majority of people here do NOT use modpacks, because they tend to cause more problems than they solve, such as forcing you to use old, obsolete versions of mods that the author may decide to delete.

 

Laura's Bondage Shop version 3.32 SSE Alpha Test is available on page 207 of this thread.  That was the most functional version prior to this release and contains several of the fixes that made it into the current version.  It's still buggy, because it doesn't contain ALL the fixes that are in this release, because I didn't have time to add them.  Specifically, it still contains the Doran bug in SQ09 (Origin), as well as a host of smaller bugs that cropped up in the change from LE to SE that are annoying but not game breaking.

 

Additionally that version does not have the new content which completes the first story arc.  Now anyone NOT using a modpack can simply drop the current version in over the old one, or uninstall the old version using MO2 or Vortex and install the new one, without any fear of it messing up a saved game, and pick right up with the new content.

 

[aurreth]

18 minutes ago, LunaPapilio said:

The ones that ask for old versions are actually very few in number, the majority can actually follow what we ask of them. A few of you seem to have clearly sniffed glue growing up and eaten crayons every day and very clearly you still do considering you are incapable of reading and listening. Are the crayons we write instructions in not the right color? Do they cause cataract somehow? I genuinely have no idea why it's so hard to follow the instructions.

 

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[Viri1]

 

29 minutes ago, Laura said:

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Well, when you get collared by Daubeny, she already seems to know what it does. Evelynn's collar was also a Thotium based collar like Sona says. Jade was researching it.

 

 

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I see, but still, given she vanished, this could still be expanded. Future Thotium-tech?

 

Still related to Jade, I saw your ?, I vote for her still being stuck in the belt a thing. Maybe she researches some sort of Anti-Thotium to get it off, with us as the more-or-less willing test subject, but it obviously fails and backfires on both.

 

 

29 minutes ago, Laura said:

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Oi, that was a secret. Not really though.

 

 

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Oh? Which bit? 27 or the furniture? Or both?

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Viri1
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