Arousal Based Breast Adjuster for SE (ABBA)

[ebbluminous]

56 minutes ago, Pexinus said:

Hi, in my game Brambles is in Whiterun, but the body is invisible except head, arms and feet. What can it depend on, I use Poly Head and CBBE 3BA (BBB).

Works ok with 3BA for me, have you built all the ABBA stuff in bodyslide?

[Pexinus]

11 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

Works ok with 3BA for me, have you built all the ABBA stuff in bodyslide?

 

Hi, no, I wouldn't even know where to start. This is the first time this has happened to me since December 2011 to date. I checked in the Bodyslide, but in the Outfit/Body section there is no reference to Abba.

[ebbluminous]

2 hours ago, Pexinus said:

 

Hi, no, I wouldn't even know where to start. This is the first time this has happened to me since December 2011 to date. I checked in the Bodyslide, but in the Outfit/Body section there is no reference to Abba.

Make sure you have the £BA patch from the downloads

[Yinkle]

11 hours ago, Pexinus said:

 

Hi, no, I wouldn't even know where to start. This is the first time this has happened to me since December 2011 to date. I checked in the Bodyslide, but in the Outfit/Body section there is no reference to Abba.

Did you install one of the ABBA Outfit mesh patches? They are in the Downloads section. If you don't install one of them none of the ABBA outfits (including Brambles) will work. Use the CBBE one for normal CBBE and the 3BA one if using CBBE 3BA. Remember to tick "build morphs" when building them, otherwise ABBA morphs won't work on the outfits.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Yinkle

[Silvermetal]

Hey, if you don't mind me asking, how does the Under Armor Hider technically work? I've released a mod that does the same thing, but it relies mainly on the ArmorCuirass and ClothingBody to hide piercings using DAV. Which approach did you take?

[ebbluminous]

@Yinkle - After work tomorrow I'll install the beta and DAV then see how it goes

[Yinkle]

On 10/27/2023 at 12:00 AM, Silvermetal said:

Hey, if you don't mind me asking, how does the Under Armor Hider technically work? I've released a mod that does the same thing, but it relies mainly on the ArmorCuirass and ClothingBody to hide piercings using DAV. Which approach did you take?

ABBA checks for up to 3 user configured armor slots as "covering" items, and hides/shows up to 5 other slots based on whether the "covering" items are worn or not. It is triggered by the OnObjectEquipped/OnObjectUnEquipped events and when the mod adjusts characters in other ways. The primary use of DAV is for the "ApplyVariant" and "ResetVariant" functions, which work way better than simply swapping the model path for ArmorAddon records, mainly because it works on a "per item" basis. The DAV config just points to Blank AA records in abba.esp for the available slot options.

Edited October 28, 2023 by Yinkle

[Yinkle]

On 10/27/2023 at 12:00 AM, Silvermetal said:

Hey, if you don't mind me asking, how does the Under Armor Hider technically work? I've released a mod that does the same thing, but it relies mainly on the ArmorCuirass and ClothingBody to hide piercings using DAV. Which approach did you take?

I've decided to re-work it and have taken down the Beta version for now. I still like the idea of using armor slots set in the MCM rather than specific forms and having to edit config files.  It's funny that I had the notion of adding something like this to ABBA pretty much around the time you released your mod, but I hadn't heard about yours until you mentioned it!

 

Yours should be way more performance friendly, due to the lack of papyrus scripts, so if folk prefer it, I'll scrap what I'm doing and recommend yours instead. Thanks for chiming in, anyhow.

[Pexinus]

On 10/25/2023 at 3:55 PM, ebbluminous said:

Make sure you have the £BA patch from the downloads

 

On 10/26/2023 at 12:56 AM, Yinkle said:

Did you install one of the ABBA Outfit mesh patches? They are in the Downloads section. If you don't install one of them none of the ABBA outfits (including Brambles) will work. Use the CBBE one for normal CBBE and the 3BA one if using CBBE 3BA. Remember to tick "build morphs" when building them, otherwise ABBA morphs won't work on the outfits.

 

Guys I thank you for your help, but it doesn't work for me, I followed Ebbluminous and Yinkle's instructions, I followed the instructions that were on the mod page (the 3 steps), but no luck...Brambles always stays with the invisible body but head and dagger visible. Maybe I need to reinstall the mod? (repeating the process) as a patch I used CBBE 3BA.

Edited October 28, 2023 by Pexinus

[Yinkle]

1 hour ago, Pexinus said:

 

 

Guys I thank you for your help, but it doesn't work for me, I followed Ebbluminous and Yinkle's instructions, I followed the instructions that were on the mod page (the 3 steps), but no luck...Brambles always stays with the invisible body but head and dagger visible. Maybe I need to reinstall the mod? (repeating the process) as a patch I used CBBE 3BA.

Try this:

 

Start a new game with a female character.

Once in game, open the console and type: help brambles

Note the itemID (numbers and letters) of the ARMO record "Brambles Dress"

Type: player.additem itemID 1 (where ItemID is what you noted above).

 

You should now have a Brambles Dress in your inventory, try equipping it on your character. If your character has an invisible body, then your installation is missing the required mesh files from the 3BA patch.

[Pexinus]

I don't get it at all, these are two images, the first where while having sex with Brambles just starting his mission (the body shows!), the second after having sex (goes back to the problem I described above). I have used Abba in the past, but I did not have to do any procedures through Bodyslide and everything worked fine (years 2021-2022).

 

 

[Pexinus]

10 hours ago, Yinkle said:

Try this:

 

Start a new game with a female character.

Once in game, open the console and type: help brambles

Note the itemID (numbers and letters) of the ARMO record "Brambles Dress"

Type: player.additem itemID 1 (where ItemID is what you noted above).

 

You should now have a Brambles Dress in your inventory, try equipping it on your character. If your character has an invisible body, then your installation is missing the required mesh files from the 3BA patch.

 

Yes, I did this in the game and actually her dress is invisible (like everything else that is to be crafted under the name Abba (clothes and other). As body meshes I installed the Caliente CBBE, CBBE 3BA (3BBB), CBBE Feet and Hand Textures, Poly Head 1.4, plus all the compatibility patches with other mod. In fact, the only mod that I have problems with is ABBA itself.

[Yinkle]

9 hours ago, Pexinus said:

I don't get it at all, these are two images, the first where while having sex with Brambles just starting his mission (the body shows!), the second after having sex (goes back to the problem I described above). I have used Abba in the past, but I did not have to do any procedures through Bodyslide and everything worked fine (years 2021-2022).

The mod is bigger now, so I had to split it into parts, as LoversLab has a maximum file size policy.

 

9 hours ago, Pexinus said:

Yes, I did this in the game and actually her dress is invisible (like everything else that is to be crafted under the name Abba (clothes and other).

You proved it to yourself, the outfit meshes are not present. If you've installed the ABBA 3BA Patch and built the outfit meshes in BodySlide as instructed, then check your settings and modding environment.

 

10 hours ago, Pexinus said:

the only mod that I have problems with is ABBA itself.

If it doesn't work for you, uninstall it.

[ExEvolution]

If I want to use the 3BA Uterus body instead of the ABBA body, will I encounter issues? Will this mod work as intended?

[Yinkle]

54 minutes ago, ExEvolution said:

If I want to use the 3BA Uterus body instead of the ABBA body, will I encounter issues? Will this mod work as intended?

Should work fine if you use the ABBA 3BA patch for outfits. Just remember to untick "ABBA Body 3BBB" when batch building them, or it might overwrite your intended 3BA variant. That said, I know nothing about the Uterus variant! Does it add new sliders? If it does, you might want to look at editing an ABBA slider profile. There are instructions for this in the 1st post.

Edited October 29, 2023 by Yinkle

[ExEvolution]

5 hours ago, Yinkle said:

Should work fine if you use the ABBA 3BA patch for outfits. Just remember to untick "ABBA Body 3BBB" when batch building them, or it might overwrite your intended 3BA variant. That said, I know nothing about the Uterus variant! Does it add new sliders? If it does, you might want to look at editing an ABBA slider profile. There are instructions for this in the 1st post.

It is this one from the nexus

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/84944

 

It says the uterus changes size based on pregnancy status, but doesn't seem to add new sliders

 

It does add 2 checkboxes in bodyslide, one just says "New" and the other says "New zap" but they are completely undocumented and it just seems to change how the vaginal canal looks in the preview.

 

I built everything in bodyslide, and the very last step I took was to build the 3BA Body Amazing Uterus body to ensure it was the selected body.

 

Seems to be running fine, but I don't really know if I'm missing features

Edited October 30, 2023 by ExEvolution

[Yinkle]

5 hours ago, ExEvolution said:

It is this one from the nexus

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/84944

 

It says the uterus changes size based on pregnancy status, but doesn't seem to add new sliders

 

It does add 2 checkboxes in bodyslide, one just says "New" and the other says "New zap" but they are completely undocumented and it just seems to change how the vaginal canal looks in the preview.

 

I built everything in bodyslide, and the very last step I took was to build the 3BA Body Amazing Uterus body to ensure it was the selected body.

 

Seems to be running fine, but I don't really know if I'm missing features

Just checked and the only change is the new "Uterus" shape which resizes with the Pregnancy Belly Slider. So it shouldn't make any difference when using it with ABBA.

[Pexinus]

On 10/29/2023 at 11:43 AM, Yinkle said:

The mod is bigger now, so I had to split it into parts, as LoversLab has a maximum file size policy.

 

You proved it to yourself, the outfit meshes are not present. If you've installed the ABBA 3BA Patch and built the outfit meshes in BodySlide as instructed, then check your settings and modding environment.

 

If it doesn't work for you, uninstall it.

 

Brambles in all its majesty! i did it! the mistake i was making was that i was not rebuilding the parts through the batch build, i was just clicking the "build" button and it was not giving me the desired effect. Problem Solved.

 

P.s: The only thing that remains invisible to me are the Abba creations to be crafted at the forge.

[Hakuna_Matata]

I think I saw somewhere in this forum that there are supposed to be shaders, for example veins.

I don't think I have ever seen those. Are there? And when are they supposed to show up?

 

[Yinkle]

On 11/4/2023 at 5:47 PM, Pexinus said:

P.s: The only thing that remains invisible to me are the Abba creations to be crafted at the forge.

This is because they are female only and don't have male world models. If your character was female, you would see them when crafting. I might add a generic world item, so that male chars can see something when crafting.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Yinkle

[Yinkle]

3 hours ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

I think I saw somewhere in this forum that there are supposed to be shaders, for example veins.

I don't think I have ever seen those. Are there? And when are they supposed to show up?

 

They are a magic effect from an enchantment on some of the ABBA outfit items. When arousal gets high, and a character is wearing those items, the effect will show unless you disable it in the MCM

[AtomicPlayboy]

Any word on whether or not we'll be getting an OStim variant? Is there something like ABBA for Ostim/OAroused already? Arousal Changes comes close but doesn't offer the random adjustments feature that ABBA has. I want to try moving to OStim for a while but I'm gonna miss ABBA.

[Yinkle]

5 hours ago, AtomicPlayboy said:

Any word on whether or not we'll be getting an OStim variant? Is there something like ABBA for Ostim/OAroused already? Arousal Changes comes close but doesn't offer the random adjustments feature that ABBA has. I want to try moving to OStim for a while but I'm gonna miss ABBA.

I looked into it a while back and at the time I would have had to remove a bunch of features due to Ostim's limitations. I'll check and see if things have changed since then.

[AtomicPlayboy]

11 hours ago, Yinkle said:

I looked into it a while back and at the time I would have had to remove a bunch of features due to Ostim's limitations. I'll check and see if things have changed since then.

If it's any help, there's a new version called OStim Standalone which looks like a much more streamlined implementation of it. Alternatively, you could remove anything related to SexLab/SLA and just used OAroused/OSLAroused, which would make it semi-universal.

Edited November 9, 2023 by AtomicPlayboy

[Yinkle]

1 hour ago, AtomicPlayboy said:

If it's any help, there's a new version called OStim Standalone which looks like a much more streamlined implementation of it. Alternatively, you could remove anything related to SexLab/SLA and just used OAroused/OSLAroused, which would make it semi-universal.

I've been looking at Ostim Standalone, and I've been working on making SexLab into a soft dependency, which isn't proving to be too difficult. I'll do the same with Ostim once I know what it can and can't do. Like you say, OSLAroused has SexLab and Ostim as soft dependencies too, so when using that with this new version of ABBA, SexLab would no longer be a hard requirement. Obviously, some functionality requiring SexLab will be missing if Ostim has no equivalent, but the main things will still work fine.