Arousal Based Breast Adjuster for SE (ABBA)

[Yinkle]

17 hours ago, gabiapa said:

Hi...sorry to write here...but i have a problem with ABMM.

In game when i see the message ... (someone) its too aroused... for example... i didnt see the name i only see (TAG)

Can someone help me with this?

Please attach a papyrus log, might be some clues as to what is going wrong in there.

[tonitrulupus]

Been getting a odd CTD, going from or to whiterun, just got that same CTD using the statue from highrothgar to whiterun.

Unhandled exception "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at 0x7FF656FECBB0 SkyrimSE.exe+11BCBB0

RDI 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)

STACK:
    [RSP+0  ] 0x768              (size_t)
    [RSP+8  ] 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+10 ] 0x8FB4EFF420       (void*)
    [RSP+18 ] 0x264399B9378      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+20 ] 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+28 ] 0x7FF65703DA3F     (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+120DA3F)
        mov rax,[rdi+48h]
    [RSP+30 ] 0x264399B9378      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+38 ] 0x8FB4EFF250       (void*)
    [RSP+40 ] 0x8FB4EFF280       (void*)
    [RSP+48 ] 0x8FB4EFF358       (void*)
    [RSP+50 ] 0x26434FE4D20      (MovementPathManagerArbiter*)
    [RSP+58 ] 0x7FF656FE7C45     (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+11B7C45)

 

Been trying to track down what is causing this issue. if you have any thought please let me know

[tonitrulupus]

Just now, tonitrulupus said:

Been getting a odd CTD, going from or to whiterun, just got that same CTD using the statue from highrothgar to whiterun.

Unhandled exception "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at 0x7FF656FECBB0 SkyrimSE.exe+11BCBB0

RDI 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)

STACK:
    [RSP+0  ] 0x768              (size_t)
    [RSP+8  ] 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+10 ] 0x8FB4EFF420       (void*)
    [RSP+18 ] 0x264399B9378      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+20 ] 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+28 ] 0x7FF65703DA3F     (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+120DA3F)
        mov rax,[rdi+48h]
    [RSP+30 ] 0x264399B9378      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+38 ] 0x8FB4EFF250       (void*)
    [RSP+40 ] 0x8FB4EFF280       (void*)
    [RSP+48 ] 0x8FB4EFF358       (void*)
    [RSP+50 ] 0x26434FE4D20      (MovementPathManagerArbiter*)
    [RSP+58 ] 0x7FF656FE7C45     (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+11B7C45)

 

Been trying to track down what is causing this issue. if you have any thought please let me know

oh and normally it only effects using the carriages. that's the weird part, no other fast travel or teleport.

[Yinkle]

5 hours ago, tonitrulupus said:

Been getting a odd CTD, going from or to whiterun, just got that same CTD using the statue from highrothgar to whiterun.

Unhandled exception "EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION" at 0x7FF656FECBB0 SkyrimSE.exe+11BCBB0

RDI 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)

STACK:
    [RSP+0  ] 0x768              (size_t)
    [RSP+8  ] 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+10 ] 0x8FB4EFF420       (void*)
    [RSP+18 ] 0x264399B9378      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+20 ] 0x264399B9360      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+28 ] 0x7FF65703DA3F     (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+120DA3F)
        mov rax,[rdi+48h]
    [RSP+30 ] 0x264399B9378      (MovementAgentPathFollowerVirtual*)
    [RSP+38 ] 0x8FB4EFF250       (void*)
    [RSP+40 ] 0x8FB4EFF280       (void*)
    [RSP+48 ] 0x8FB4EFF358       (void*)
    [RSP+50 ] 0x26434FE4D20      (MovementPathManagerArbiter*)
    [RSP+58 ] 0x7FF656FE7C45     (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+11B7C45)

 

Been trying to track down what is causing this issue. if you have any thought please let me know

This is related to something other than this mod. Sorry I can't be of more help.

[tonitrulupus]

2 hours ago, Yinkle said:

This is related to something other than this mod. Sorry I can't be of more help.

I am thinking maybe it could be related to the horses

 

[tonitrulupus]

2 minutes ago, tonitrulupus said:

I am thinking maybe it could be related to the horses

 

I was thinking that some how the statue was messing with the nav meshes for whiterun, but this was the first time it gave me that CTD. but I had horse waiting in ivarstead

 

[tonitrulupus]

On 8/5/2024 at 12:36 PM, Yinkle said:

This is related to something other than this mod. Sorry I can't be of more help.

So far it looks like it was the horses that was causing the issue.

[Yinkle]

1 hour ago, tonitrulupus said:

So far it looks like it was the horses that was causing the issue.

Hope you are able to fix it, good luck!

[Hakuna_Matata]

The shout still stops working for me, and I'm losing my mind here.

 

The shout does go off and I get the visuals on affected NPCs, so it is working in general, but I don't get the "you orgasm" message and my arousal doesn't go down.

 

All these years I figured it'd be Thunderchild or maybe a Vokrii interaction, one of those spell scaling effects.

Today I had the brilliant idea to say player.resurrect (which gets rid of all of those) and try again and it still doesn't work.

Zero effects on me according to the overview in skyui.

 

The logs show that OSLAroused is getting the modmessage to add arousal to Serana (my test target), and when I killed a dragon earlier the arousal change by SLEN also worked.

So it's not OSLAroused.

 

I tried reading the scripts but didn't get anywhere. I found Function Orgasm which can call ProcessMessage on plorg which is apparently supposed to display the message that I had an orgasm. Could it be that the numbering changed because I added a mod and now MyShout is wrong? No, that looks good in sqv. What the hell is going on here!?

 

There must be a way to debug this shit?! PLEASE HELP!

 

EDIT: What is ABBAPo? In the profile there is togglepo which appears to be related, and it's 0 in the defaults but 1 in my profile.

 

EDIT: Never mind. Loading the default profile didn't help.

Edited August 10, 2024 by Hakuna_Matata

[tonitrulupus]

On 8/7/2024 at 5:57 PM, Yinkle said:

Hope you are able to fix it, good luck!

it lowered the amount on ctd, but still have not resolved it, its just such a odd CTD, it only happens with fast travel if I am using a carriage all other travel works fine. you would think it would effect all fast travel, but it don't

[tonitrulupus]

11 hours ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

The shout still stops working for me, and I'm losing my mind here.

 

The shout does go off and I get the visuals on affected NPCs, so it is working in general, but I don't get the "you orgasm" message and my arousal doesn't go down.

 

All these years I figured it'd be Thunderchild or maybe a Vokrii interaction, one of those spell scaling effects.

Today I had the brilliant idea to say player.resurrect (which gets rid of all of those) and try again and it still doesn't work.

Zero effects on me according to the overview in skyui.

 

The logs show that OSLAroused is getting the modmessage to add arousal to Serana (my test target), and when I killed a dragon earlier the arousal change by SLEN also worked.

So it's not OSLAroused.

 

I tried reading the scripts but didn't get anywhere. I found Function Orgasm which can call ProcessMessage on plorg which is apparently supposed to display the message that I had an orgasm. Could it be that the numbering changed because I added a mod and now MyShout is wrong? No, that looks good in sqv. What the hell is going on here!?

 

There must be a way to debug this shit?! PLEASE HELP!

 

EDIT: What is ABBAPo? In the profile there is togglepo which appears to be related, and it's 0 in the defaults but 1 in my profile.

 

EDIT: Never mind. Loading the default profile didn't help.

I had a weird issue a while back with sexlab, a lot of its features including organism was not working right, I was unable to use the hot key "n" to move the scene along, it would not advance at all, so I figured what the hell I will run fnis, and it fixed ever issue I had with all the sex mods I use. So try running fnis or what ever you use, see if it will fix the issue, if you don't use fnis or nemesis, then I am at a loss, some times just reinstalling the mod fixes a lot of issues as well.  

[Hakuna_Matata]

1 hour ago, tonitrulupus said:

I had a weird issue a while back with sexlab, a lot of its features including organism was not working right, I was unable to use the hot key "n" to move the scene along, it would not advance at all, so I figured what the hell I will run fnis, and it fixed ever issue I had with all the sex mods I use. So try running fnis or what ever you use, see if it will fix the issue, if you don't use fnis or nemesis, then I am at a loss, some times just reinstalling the mod fixes a lot of issues as well.  

 

Thank you for trying to help but it's not the install itself that is broken, because the shout works when I initially get it.

Then it stops working after something happens that I have not isolated yet.

[tonitrulupus]

10 hours ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

 

Thank you for trying to help but it's not the install itself that is broken, because the shout works when I initially get it.

Then it stops working after something happens that I have not isolated yet.

yeah, that I am not sure about, however, that's whet sexlabs did to was working fine then after a little while of play it brakes. if you do use fnis, give it a try may actually fix it unless you already tried it, I know I had a few broken mods, just by removing them doing a fresh save then let them install again may fix it, but be warned I did that with ineeds and it totally broke on that play through had to start a new play through and it worked fine after that. Had nmm deactivate everything and just reactivated all my mod and about 10% didn't work right. The only other thing I can think of is there is a mod braking abba

[Hakuna_Matata]

OK I started a new playthrough to find out exactly when the ABBA shout stops working, in the hopes to make this problem reproducable and debuggable.

 

I found the exact moment the shout stops working. When I ask Serana to turn me into a vampire.

I have a save before that. The shout works. I get turned. The shout stops reducing my arousal.

 

I'm getting flashbacks here to Skyrim Paraglider which has an effect added to remove fall damage when you glide, and that effect also mysteriously stops working once you become a vampire. I don't think they ever found a solution or root cause either.

 

Any requests on what to try to debug this?

 

It would help if anyone could explain to me how the arousal loss is supposed to work when you do the shout.

[Hakuna_Matata]

OK I replaced the pex file, now loading the save before turning a vampire. I will shout once, then turn vampire, then shout again.

 

BTW I found out that the problem is "self-correcting". If you load a save, the shout comes back. But it goes again once you change race again, which includes I think becoming a vampire lord or a werewolf.

 

Here's the result of the trial:

 

[08/12/2024 - 11:41:23AM] ABBA Info: BeginCastVoice event detected

 

Yeah. Only once. Before becoming a vampire.

 

Interestingly multiple mods are able to detect the race change, so that still works. Maybe you could re-install the BeginCastVoice handler when you detect a race change?

[Yinkle]

15 hours ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

OK I started a new playthrough to find out exactly when the ABBA shout stops working, in the hopes to make this problem reproducable and debuggable.

 

I found the exact moment the shout stops working. When I ask Serana to turn me into a vampire.

I have a save before that. The shout works. I get turned. The shout stops reducing my arousal.

 

I'm getting flashbacks here to Skyrim Paraglider which has an effect added to remove fall damage when you glide, and that effect also mysteriously stops working once you become a vampire. I don't think they ever found a solution or root cause either.

 

Any requests on what to try to debug this?

 

It would help if anyone could explain to me how the arousal loss is supposed to work when you do the shout.

ABBA listens for the "BeginCastVoice" animation event, then sends a modevent to Aroused (OSL, SLAR etc) and player arousal is reduced.

I did some testing and sure enough, after I switched race, the event wasn't detected any more.

 

I've modified a script so that it re-registers for this event on PC race change. Overwrite abba with the attached patch and let me know how you get on.

 

Note that this event gets registered every time you load the game, so your issue should only have happened immediately after changing race and not after saving and restarting the game. Hopefully this patch will fix it, but if your issue persisted between play sessions, then I'm not sure if it will.

 

Edit: Just read your reply, that makes sense now. This patch should be all it needs. I hope you haven't pulled out all your hair over this!

Edit: Attachment removed, this is now part of ABBA as of 7.0.5

Edited August 12, 2024 by Yinkle

[Hakuna_Matata]

The update works for me! Wonderful! Thank you so much for not giving up on my mad ramblings over the years 🙂

 

BTW: I have installed version 7.0.4 but it reports as 7.0.3. I think you forgot to update the version string in the scripts.

[Yinkle]

4 minutes ago, Hakuna_Matata said:

The update works for me! Wonderful! Thank you so much for not giving up on my mad ramblings over the years 🙂

 

BTW: I have installed version 7.0.4 but it reports as 7.0.3. I think you forgot to update the version string in the scripts.

Glad to be of help, and thanks for the heads-up - will upload a new version with this race fix soon.

[blasp4000]

Thank you for this work on the amazing mod.

I am having a bit of trouble with the effects being instantly visible, so I am wondering if this is a known issue or a known workaround as it has been driving me nuts
I have tried this with both an older version ABBA (before the dynamic armor mod was required) and the latest version of ABBA (post-dynamic armor being required) and also with ABBA lite.
I have tried it both with SILF activated, and SILF deactivated.

The results are similar.

Everything behind the scenes seems to work as it should: Messages go out when they should, the morph values, (values inspected in SILF MCM UI) are the right ones, per the arousal of the moment,  just that morph changes on the model itself are not update in real-time, not until I change an armor ( any armor change, works, I just need to toggle armor, any armor,  on and off, for the changes to update) .
 

Except in one instance, where for a single glorious moment it did work,  that has since failed to replicate, there is no way for me to get the adjustment to reflect on the modeling real-time.
Even on the save where it did work, it worked for just one session, after existing Skyrim entering it again, and loading the working save, it didn't work in real-time ever again. 

What should I be looking at?

Does anyone have any context, as to what typical mods could block ABBA updates (either direct or via SILF) in real-time,  and force it to wait for an armor change when it does update correctly?
Would it be useful for abba to have an option to do a hacky "invisible" armor on/off  or some form of brute force update, to force the updates to register ?

Thank you!


 

Edited August 14, 2024 by blasp4000

[Yinkle]

1 hour ago, blasp4000 said:

Thank you for this work on the amazing mod.

I am having a bit of trouble with the effects being instantly visible, so I am wondering if this is a known issue or a known workaround as it has been driving me nuts
I have tried this with both an older version ABBA (before the dynamic armor mod was required) and the latest version of ABBA (post-dynamic armor being required) and also with ABBA lite.
I have tried it both with SILF activated, and SILF deactivated.

The results are similar.

Everything behind the scenes seems to work as it should: Messages go out when they should, the morph values, (values inspected in SILF MCM UI) are the right ones, per the arousal of the moment,  just that morph changes on the model itself are not update in real-time, not until I change an armor ( any armor change, works, I just need to toggle armor, any armor,  on and off, for the changes to update) .
 

Except in one instance, where for a single glorious moment it did work,  that has since failed to replicate, there is no way for me to get the adjustment to reflect on the modeling real-time.
Even on the save where it did work, it worked for just one session, after existing Skyrim entering it again, and loading the working save, it didn't work in real-time ever again. 

What should I be looking at?

Does anyone have any context, as to what typical mods could block ABBA updates (either direct or via SILF) in real-time,  and force it to wait for an armor change when it does update correctly?
Would it be useful for abba to have an option to do a hacky "invisible" armor on/off  or some form of brute force update, to force the updates to register ?

Thank you!


 

If you are playing Skyrim AE with SSE Engine fixes, try this:

 

There are 2 settings I highly recommend changing in the config file "EngineFixes.toml" if using SSE Engine Fixes:

MemoryManager = false
ScaleformAllocator = false

If you don't do this, Racemenu will stop working properly and things won't morph after a while.

 

Other than that, I'm not sure what to suggest.

[blasp4000]

4 hours ago, Yinkle said:

If you are playing Skyrim AE with SSE Engine fixes, try this:

 

There are 2 settings I highly recommend changing in the config file "EngineFixes.toml" if using SSE Engine Fixes:

MemoryManager = false
ScaleformAllocator = false

If you don't do this, Racemenu will stop working properly and things won't morph after a while.

 

Other than that, I'm not sure what to suggest.

Thank you That was indeed the fix!

[Yinkle]

6 hours ago, blasp4000 said:

Thank you That was indeed the fix!

There was a racemenu .dll replacement mod on the nexus that fixed this, but it's since been removed for some reason. Sadly, I don't know why!

I have a copy of it here, and it works fine, but without knowing why it was removed I'm hesitant to share it.

Edited August 14, 2024 by Yinkle

[weavergx]

15 hours ago, Yinkle said:

If you are playing Skyrim AE with SSE Engine fixes, try this:

 

There are 2 settings I highly recommend changing in the config file "EngineFixes.toml" if using SSE Engine Fixes:

MemoryManager = false
ScaleformAllocator = false

If you don't do this, Racemenu will stop working properly and things won't morph after a while.

 

Other than that, I'm not sure what to suggest.

 

I tried changing these two settings to false and it causes CTD upon loading even a new game 🥲

[madcyb]

Hello please i dont want use the quest how can i stop it,? I just use ABBA for nipples, where is the choice for use just ABBA and No quest thanx you merci beaucoup

[madcyb]

Oki I start new game with that older ABBA version i did keep "Arousal Based Breast Adjuster SE 5.4.2" without any sucking quest at all. ..

Please let's us choices to install just ABBA plain, or a choice to turn quest off in MCM or something merci, thank you