Arousal Based Breast Adjuster for SE (ABBA)

[Yinkle]

6.5.2 Bugfix Release:

Spoiler

 

Fixed an issue with "immediate morph" when using the ABBA arousal increase key bind.

Fixed a few issues when playing with a male PC:

ABBA will now initialise with Player morphs disabled if the PC is male.

MCM options for a few things are now disabled if the PC is male.

You can now do the quest to acquire the ABBA shout as a male player. Note that the shout can only be used manually, and male PC's won't auto shout at high arousal like a female PC.

The ABBA shout now uses dialogues, so different voice types are available, and as a result it can increase speech craft when used. The current voices are rudimentary and limited to male/female, but this will be expanded on when I have time or if someone wants to help out.

 

I made a male character and tested it out, seemed to work OK. Please let me know of any issues, as I haven't done extensive testing.

 

Reminder: This will break the Shout and Clothing quests if updating from before 6.5.0 if the quests are started and not finished.

Edited May 12, 2023 by Yinkle

[Drapers]

I love this mod -- great job.

 

But I do hope someone can help with this. When arousal rises the first time with a new character, her breast size increases dramatically -- from about a B cup to about a DDD -- even though I've got the max breast increase set at .10 with gravity at -.35. No other settings on breast size.

 

After a one or two arousal cycles this usually goes back to a slight increase in breast size, about the size I would expect based on the setting.

 

Also nipple and labia don't match my bodyslide settings during initial arousal, but change when the breast does.

 

Does anyone know what is going on?

Edited May 26, 2023 by Drapers

[Yinkle]

On 5/14/2023 at 4:05 AM, Adronson said:

I love this mod -- great job.

 

But I do hope someone can help with this. When arousal rises the first time with a new character, her breast size increases dramatically -- from about a B cup to about a DDD -- even though I've got the max breast increase set at .10 with gravity at -.35. No other settings on breast size.

 

After a one or two arousal cycles this usually goes back to a slight increase in breast size, about the size I would expect based on the setting.

 

Also nipple and labia don't match my bodyslide settings during initial arousal, but change when the breast does.

 

Does anyone know what is going on?

Do you have any other mods installed that do body morphs? What body type are you using? Make sure you are using the correct slider set for your body type.

[Drapers]

On 5/15/2023 at 3:48 AM, Yinkle said:

Do you have any other mods installed that do body morphs? What body type are you using? Make sure you are using the correct slider set for your body type.

Thanks for responding.

 

I'm using SLIF with Fertility Mode and Estrus Chaurus+, though this happens before any triggering events for those two mods. I also have Cursed Loot installed, but body scaling is disabled on that.

 

I've tried it with both ABBA Body 3BBB and CBBE 3BBB Body Amazing. The first time I saw the problem I checked the ABBA MCM and changed the slider from CBBE to 3BA and that immediately fixed the issue, but it showed up again. Then I switched the slider from 3BA to Example Sliders and again the issue went away. The third time it happened, changing sliders did nothing. 

[Yinkle]

On 5/18/2023 at 3:05 AM, Adronson said:

Thanks for responding.

 

I'm using SLIF with Fertility Mode and Estrus Chaurus+, though this happens before any triggering events for those two mods. I also have Cursed Loot installed, but body scaling is disabled on that.

 

I've tried it with both ABBA Body 3BBB and CBBE 3BBB Body Amazing. The first time I saw the problem I checked the ABBA MCM and changed the slider from CBBE to 3BA and that immediately fixed the issue, but it showed up again. Then I switched the slider from 3BA to Example Sliders and again the issue went away. The third time it happened, changing sliders did nothing. 

Sounds to me like an issue with how SLIF handles ABBA morphs. Make sure that SLIF is NOT setting any values to negative, as ABBA does that (if relevant) before sending them to SLIF. Either that or ABBA and SLIF are not communicating properly.

 

Have you tried disabling SLIF and seeing if the problem persists?

Edited May 19, 2023 by Yinkle

[Drapers]

On 5/19/2023 at 7:59 AM, Yinkle said:

Sounds to me like an issue with how SLIF handles ABBA morphs. Make sure that SLIF is NOT setting any values to negative, as ABBA does that (if relevant) before sending them to SLIF. Either that or ABBA and SLIF are not communicating properly.

 

Have you tried disabling SLIF and seeing if the problem persists?

I disabled SLIF but didn't see any improvement.

But, due to your comment about negative value, I went back to the ABBA BreastGravity2 settings. They were set to max -0.35, min 0.00. I set both to 0.00 and that seemed to fix the problem. I've run through 3 arousal cycles and so far everything seems to be working as expected.

Does that make sense to you? Because maximum was less than minimum? Or a combination of CBBE 3BA installed with minimum gravity, a small breast body, and negative BreastGravity settings in ABBA causing unexpected results? 

Thanks again for the help and for this great mod.

Edited May 26, 2023 by Drapers

[Yinkle]

7 hours ago, Adronson said:

I disabled SLIF but didn't see any improvement.

But, due to your comment about negative value, I went back to the ABBA BreastGravity2 settings. They were set to max -0.35, min 0.00. I set both to 0.00 and that seemed to fix the problem. I've run through 3 arousal cycles and so far everything seems to be working as expected.

Does that make sense to you? Because maximum was less than minimum? Or a combination of CBBE 3BA installed with minimum gravity, a small breast body, and negative BreastGravity settings in ABBA causing unexpected results? 

Thanks again for the help and for this great mod.

Rather than setting the "BreastGravity2" slider to a negative max value, why not set "PushUp" to a positive max value? This would achieve pretty much the same thing.

 

Check that your CBPC configuration files for CBBE 3BA aren't conflicting. Don't use the "Add Auto Pushup" option, for instance. The other thing to be aware of is that CBPC physics can cause issues when using in game morphs as it is supposed to be configured for specific breast sizes. HDT SMP doesn't have this issue.

[Leadaire]

Hello. I've get stucked at quest stage. I get clothes from Lisbet's safechest and now the journal tell me that need to find third clothes and something to with drinking context. What I need to do next?

[Yinkle]

9 hours ago, Leadaire said:

Hello. I've get stucked at quest stage. I get clothes from Lisbet's safechest and now the journal tell me that need to find third clothes and something to with drinking context. What I need to do next?

There's a vanilla quest requiring level 14+ called "a night to remember" involving a drinking contest with an npc called Sam Guevenne.

Spoiler

There is a chest next to the NPC you find at the end of this quest

NB: In the latest version of ABBA, the quests to get the outfits have been changed.

[Drapers]

On 5/20/2023 at 4:29 AM, Yinkle said:

Rather than setting the "BreastGravity2" slider to a negative max value, why not set "PushUp" to a positive max value? This would achieve pretty much the same thing.

 

Check that your CBPC configuration files for CBBE 3BA aren't conflicting. Don't use the "Add Auto Pushup" option, for instance. The other thing to be aware of is that CBPC physics can cause issues when using in game morphs as it is supposed to be configured for specific breast sizes. HDT SMP doesn't have this issue.

Thanks again for all your help and for this great mod.

 

I am using "Pushup" rather than "Breast Gravity2" and it seems to be working fine.

 

Regarding HDT, I've not been using it because it causes various issues in my setup--things like vibrating body parts. But I'll look into it further.

 

Again thanks for your help.

Edited May 26, 2023 by Drapers

[AlreadyFree]

If I just want the arousal based portion of this mod without the quest & outfits, what entries do I need to not delete from the esp?

[Yinkle]

3 hours ago, AlreadyFree said:

If I just want the arousal based portion of this mod without the quest & outfits, what entries do I need to not delete from the esp?

You can easily remove the constructible object entries if you don't want any items showing up in crafting menus. Other than that, just don't bother with the quests - I don't have time to list all the things you shouldn't remove.

[McLaren67]

Hi. I want to translate the mod, only I can not find where are the notifications of the arousal. Which are displayed at the top left

P.S Sorry for my English))

Edited May 28, 2023 by McLaren67

[EthernalNoob]

Could you please add a MCM option to remove all quests and map modifications? Or upload a lite version of the mod which only changes the body?

I'm a vanilla plus player... I just want better visuals, not a bunch of quests nor map landscape modifications (I use SLIF and AutoBody)

Edited May 29, 2023 by EthernalNoob
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[Yinkle]

On 5/28/2023 at 1:52 PM, McLaren67 said:

Hi. I want to translate the mod, only I can not find where are the notifications of the arousal. Which are displayed at the top left

P.S Sorry for my English))

\skse\Plugins\ABBA\status.json

 

35 minutes ago, EthernalNoob said:

Could you please add a MCM option to remove all quests and map modifications? Or upload a lite version of the mod which only changes the body?

I'm a vanilla plus player... I just want better visuals, not a bunch of quests nor map landscape modifications (I use SLIF and AutoBody)

I'm not quite sure if you are joking or not. If you are, then "haha". If not, then the answer is simply NO.

[EthernalNoob]

2 hours ago, Yinkle said:

\skse\Plugins\ABBA\status.json

 

I'm not quite sure if you are joking or not. If you are, then "haha". If not, then the answer is simply NO.

 

No, i'm serious. And why not, is it hard?

[EthernalNoob]

21 hours ago, Yinkle said:

If not, then the answer is simply NO.

 

Can i mod it and upload it for you? This way you don't have work, and I get what i want

[EthernalNoob]

do i need the "ABBA 3BA" body meshes? Or can i use the original 3BA ones?

[venomr]

2 hours ago, EthernalNoob said:

do i need the "ABBA 3BA" body meshes? Or can i use the original 3BA ones?

 

Since ABBA works on armors, I think its just reading slider names and morphing things that way. I've done it with the original 3ba and also the modified 3ba from the devourment mod on nexus, both seem to work even though the polygon counts are different.

[MalicoVuckovic]

Is there a way (and if not, can one be incorporated in a future update) to exclude certain NPCs, Races or Factions?  I play as a Male PC (and use OBody NG), and whatever you did in this latest update really fixed the MOD for me as an earlier version (I was using 6.3.1) didn't seem to do anything in my setup...)  But now that is is working, I can see there are certain NPCs/Races I'd prefer to exclude from the morphing.  Thanks for this wonderful MOD.

[Yinkle]

12 hours ago, EthernalNoob said:

 

Can i mod it and upload it for you? This way you don't have work, and I get what i want

What you do with it for your own use is up to you, but please don't upload it anywhere.

[Yinkle]

2 hours ago, MalicoVuckovic said:

Is there a way (and if not, can one be incorporated in a future update) to exclude certain NPCs, Races or Factions?  I play as a Male PC (and use OBody NG), and whatever you did in this latest update really fixed the MOD for me as an earlier version (I was using 6.3.1) didn't seem to do anything in my setup...)  But now that is is working, I can see there are certain NPCs/Races I'd prefer to exclude from the morphing.  Thanks for this wonderful MOD.

You can exclude targeted actors in the MCM

[EthernalNoob]

5 hours ago, Yinkle said:

but please don't upload it anywhere

Can i upload as a patch? (Original mod required)

[Yinkle]

1 hour ago, EthernalNoob said:

Can i upload as a patch? (Original mod required)

As I say, if you want to alter ABBA for your own use, go right ahead. Just don't ask me for advice on how to do it or upload it anywhere, patch or otherwise. I don't need people pestering me about a shitty patch made by some random person on the internet.

 

To be honest, I don't get why people would want this anyway. If you don't want the outfits or the shout - don't do the quests, simple as that.

[EthernalNoob]

5 hours ago, Yinkle said:

don't do the quests, simple as that.

 

The quests aren't the only problem:

 

On 5/29/2023 at 7:22 PM, EthernalNoob said:

map modifications

 

Your mod also add objects to certain places

 

By the way:

 

5 hours ago, Yinkle said:

I don't need people pestering me about a shitty patch

 

I already made the patch, is literally just a modded esp file without the map objects, items, npcs and quests (still requires the original mod scripts to work). What if i make a WARNING IN BIG RED LATTERS, to people not bother you about it and bother me instead?

 

5 hours ago, Yinkle said:

I don't get why people would want this anyway

 

Because your mod name is "Arousal Based Breast Adjustment"? Not "Quests and Breast Adjustments"? Man, i know, the mod is your and you can do whatever you want with it, but it's simply weird to have a Breast (body mechanics) mod merged with a lot of random quests.

 

I'm not saying your mod or the quests are bad, i'm just saying that having the two things in the same mod with the quests not being an (optional) extension is not something common... Take Sexlab Eager NPCS for example, it add dialougue mechanics, but have MCM options to disable quests and alternative things. Milk Mod Economy in other hand, have separated esps to different milk pump placements.

 

It's not a matter of quality, it a matter of personal customization. I really would like to use Aroused Nips (which does exactly what i need) but sadly it is not compatible with SLIF and there's no patch for it. The only thing that does the same and is compatible with SLIF is your mod.

 

That's why i would like your permission to use your mod as base for "light version". As it is something really niche (and kept exclusively by myself) i think you wouldn't have any problem (since just a few people will use it anyway  ). Also I already tested it on a clean (new) save and it works perfectly.

Edited May 31, 2023 by EthernalNoob
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