wanrandy92 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 Hey guys, I really need some help. I don't know what's wrong with my game, it always crash when I go into the Whiterun Hold. The city itself is no problem, I can coc myself in there and nothing goes wrong. It goes wrong when I go out of Whiterun or walking from Riverwood to Whiterun. As soon as I ran into the Honningbrew Meadery, my game crashed. I sorted my load order using LOOT and I use Mod Organizer to mod my game. Here's my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 9 9 SPERG.esm 10 a Falskaar.esm 11 b Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp 12 c Wyrmstooth.esp 13 d RaceCompatibility.esm 14 e hdtHighHeel.esm 15 f Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 16 10 ApachiiHairMales.esm 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 18 12 ApachiiHair.esm 19 13 SGHairPackBase.esm 20 14 SexLab.esm 21 15 CreatureFramework.esm 22 16 SexLabAroused.esm 23 17 HentaiPregnancy.esm 24 18 ZaZAnimationPack.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp 25 19 Cutting Room Floor.esp 26 1a SkyUI.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 27 1b FISS.esp 28 1c UIExtensions.esp 29 1d SkyTweak.esp 30 1e Grimy Utilities Interface.esp Dragon Stalking Fix.esp 31 1f FloraRespawnFix.esp 32 20 No More Glowing Edges.esp 33 21 WondersofWeather.esp 34 22 getSnowy.esp 35 23 Footprints.esp 36 24 AMatterOfTime.esp 37 25 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 38 26 WM_WidgetMod.esp 39 27 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp 40 28 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp 41 29 Differently Ebony.esp 42 2a Better Dynamic Snow.esp 43 2b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 44 2c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 45 2d 3DNPC.esp 46 2e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 47 2f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 48 30 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 49 31 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 50 32 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 51 33 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 52 34 Sanctuary Reborn.esp 53 35 Rebirth Monster.esp 54 36 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 55 37 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 56 38 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 57 39 Purity.esp 58 3a TrueStorms.esp 59 3b WetandCold.esp 60 3c WetandCold - Ashes.esp 61 3d AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 62 3e Helgen Reborn.esp 63 3f SPERG.esp 64 40 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 65 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 66 42 Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 67 43 hearthfireextended.esp 68 44 RaceCompatibility-Dialog-Legendary.esp 69 45 Fort(ified) Dawnguard.esp 70 46 Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp 71 47 Point The Way.esp 72 48 Combat Evolved.esp 73 49 marriagemod - alpha v3.esp 74 4a BFT Ships and Carriages.esp 75 4b LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 76 4c SGHairPackAIO.esp 77 4d KS Hairdo's.esp 78 4e TKAA.esp 79 4f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 80 50 Ultimate NPC Overhaul II.esp 81 51 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 82 52 Immersive Weapons.esp 83 53 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 84 54 NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp 85 55 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 86 56 Nightingale Hall.esp 87 57 The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp 88 58 Cloaks.esp 89 59 1nivWICCloaks.esp 90 5a 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 91 5b Hott Interesting NPCs.esp 92 5c Convenient Horses.esp 93 5d Run For Your Lives.esp 94 5e Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 95 5f Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp 96 60 HeljarchenFarm.esp 97 61 WindstadMine.esp 98 62 Immersive Wenches.esp 99 63 Deadly Wenches.esp 100 64 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 101 65 Immersive Patrols II.esp 102 66 The Ordinary Women.esp 103 67 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 104 68 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 105 69 RavenCastle.esp 106 6a Dwemer Longrifle.esp 107 6b Dead Body Collision.esp 108 6c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 109 6d The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 110 6e Follower Neisa.esp 111 6f Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Purity.esp 112 70 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp 113 71 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp 114 72 LandLord_.esp 115 73 Immersive Speechcraft.esp 116 74 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 117 75 3PCOFull.esp 118 76 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 119 77 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 120 78 Realistic-Voice.esp 121 79 Falskaar Wildlife.esp 122 7a Wyrmstooth - Quest Tweaks - No Increased Level.esp 123 7b Wyrmstooth - Radiant Encounter Tweaks.esp 124 7c Wyrmstooth - Typo Fix.esp 125 7d Bounty Gold.esp 126 7e P1FlyingRing.esp 127 7f AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp 128 80 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 129 81 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 130 82 SPERG-DB.esp 131 83 SPERG-DG.esp 132 84 DeadlyCombat.esp 133 85 Mortal Enemies.esp 134 86 DeadlyDragons.esp 135 87 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 136 88 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 137 89 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 138 8a Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp 139 8b ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 140 8c LostGrimoire.esp 141 8d More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp 142 8e Thunderchild - Wyrmstooth Compatibility Patch.esp 143 8f Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 144 90 VioLens.esp 145 91 AHZmoreHUD.esp 146 92 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 147 93 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 148 94 FNIS.esp 149 95 RaceMenu.esp 150 96 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 151 97 XPMSE.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp 152 98 Animated Dragon Wings.esp 153 99 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp 154 9a More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp 155 9b FemaleMannequinsNord.esp 156 9c Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 157 9d SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 158 9e SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 159 9f RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 160 a0 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 161 a1 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 162 a2 SGEyebrows.esp 163 a3 Brows.esp 164 a4 Beards.esp 165 a5 CustomRaces - Lore.esp 166 a6 LunariRace.esp 167 a7 The Ningheim.esp 168 a8 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 169 a9 DHuntress.esp 170 aa FlameAtronachArmor.esp 171 ab FullBootForKKSA.esp 172 ac KKFur.esp 173 ad KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp 174 ae KKSDrBWeightFix.esp 175 af FS_Eidolon.esp FS_ExorcizamusTe.esp FS_NamelessLight.esp FS_Skycutter.esp FS_SwordOfTheSeeker.esp FS_Ygrayne.esp 176 b0 MERGE_FS_Weapons.esp 177 b1 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 178 b2 ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp 179 b3 PDCrossbow - Feykrosah Nin.esp 180 b4 HDT Piercingsets.esp 181 b5 FS_EveningStar.esp 182 b6 Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp 183 b7 WeaponsOf3E.esp 184 b8 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp 185 b9 Black Rose.esp DaedricCrownCraftable.esp DragonCrownCraftable.esp DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp EbonyCrownCraftable.esp ElvenCrownCraftable.esp GlassCrownCraftable.esp 186 ba MERGE_Crowns.esp 187 bb Aradia Lingerie Dress v0.2.1.esp 188 bc Aradia Lingerie Dress.esp 189 bd Celes Nightingale Armor.esp 190 be DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp 191 bf ESO Breton Knight by NewrMind43.esp 192 c0 LustmordVampireArmor.esp 193 c1 DCR_KingCrusaderArmor.esp 194 c2 Elvenia.esp 195 c3 LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp 196 c4 Merta Assassin Armor.esp 197 c5 Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 198 c6 Schwertleite Set.esp 199 c7 Populated Solstheim.esp 200 c8 FFSolstheim1.esp 201 c9 Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp 202 ca ARTA Follower Pack V1.esp 203 cb LV_Yennefer.esp 204 cc FollowerSha.esp 205 cd 3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp 206 ce Falskaar TKAA Patch.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin Wives.esp 207 cf Bijin AIO.esp 208 d0 Serana.esp 209 d1 Valerica.esp 210 d2 Toccata as Elisif.esp 211 d3 SLAnimLoader.esp 212 d4 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 213 d5 NusbieVoices.esp 214 d6 SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 215 d7 MoreNastyCritters.esp 216 d8 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 217 d9 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 218 da SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 219 db SexLabMatchMaker.esp 220 dc SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 221 dd SexLab Submit.esp 222 de Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Hopefully you guys can help me, I'm so stressed that all my work in modding the game is halted by these crashes.
Sladen2019 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 The most obvious issue is running many heavy scripted mods and being near the mod limit. You can reduce the amount of esps by using the SLAL version of More Nasty Critters. https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/4130-more-nasty-critters-slal-edition/ You do not need the SexLabNudeCreatures esps if you use it. Realistic Ragdolls is now included in XPMSE. The follower Neisa may be causing many of your crashes. She uses 8k textures and has issues with her nifs pointed at wrong paths. Use Crash Fixes. Make sure to set UseOSAllocators=1 in its CrashFixPlugin.ini. Crash Fixes requires SKSE Plugin Preloader to work. Install both manually.
wanrandy92 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Sladen2019 said: The most obvious issue is running many heavy scripted mods and being near the mod limit. You can reduce the amount of esps by using the SLAL version of More Nasty Critters. https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/4130-more-nasty-critters-slal-edition/ You do not need the SexLabNudeCreatures esps if you use it. Realistic Ragdolls is now included in XPMSE. The follower Neisa may be causing many of your crashes. She uses 8k textures and has issues with her nifs pointed at wrong paths. Use Crash Fixes. Make sure to set UseOSAllocators=1 in its CrashFixPlugin.ini. Crash Fixes requires SKSE Plugin Preloader to work. Install both manually. I'm already using Crash Fixes and it's set up like what you have mentioned. I will try to install the SLAL edition of MNC and see how it does. Seems like it, there are a lot of problems mentioned by others about Neisa. But I did find someone making a fix for her, so might try that. By the way, do you have any experience with the Buxom Wench Yuriana mod? I want to use that but I always crash when getting into the caves that have the wenches. I'm using a 2K replacer that one modder made to reduce issues with her. Any ideas?
Sladen2019 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, wanrandy92 said: By the way, do you have any experience with the Buxom Wench Yuriana mod? I want to use that but I always crash when getting into the caves that have the wenches. I'm using a 2K replacer that one modder made to reduce issues with her. Any ideas? I use the Yuriana mod myself and have had no issues with her nor any issues with the wenches and dungeons. Its probably a mod compatibility issue. It might be heavily conflicting with Ultimate NPC Overhaul, which I don't use but thats the only one I can see in your load order that might be the cause. It might have something with the way that the Yuriana mod adds the extra wenches. It seems to add some, but also replace some vanilla bandit types. You'd have to clarify that in the Ultimate NPC/Yuriana comments probably.
wanrandy92 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Posted June 23, 2018 Ah I see. Maybe I'll try it out again. Without Ultimate NPC. Thanks for your help. I'm getting discouraged because I can't even play a proper game without crashing here and there.
wanrandy92 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 4:44 PM, Sladen2019 said: I use the Yuriana mod myself and have had no issues with her nor any issues with the wenches and dungeons. Its probably a mod compatibility issue. It might be heavily conflicting with Ultimate NPC Overhaul, which I don't use but thats the only one I can see in your load order that might be the cause. It might have something with the way that the Yuriana mod adds the extra wenches. It seems to add some, but also replace some vanilla bandit types. You'd have to clarify that in the Ultimate NPC/Yuriana comments probably. I deactivated Yuriana and Ultimate NPC overhaul, the game still crashes when I enter the Whiterun hold. This is so frustrating.
Grey Cloud Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 If you are not already, use ENBoost http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost 7 7 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Get rid of this, it hasn't been updated in 4 years. If you have 8GB of RAM and 4GB of VRAM then you don't need it and if you haven't then you need to get rid of a lot of your mods. You have several old or outdated mods there but what you do have is a shed load of mods which add extra NPCs to the game. You would need some serious hardware to cope with this. Have you tried going anywhere else which is busy such as Solitude or Riften during the day?
Grey Cloud Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 An old mod taking up 4 slots. 9 9 SPERG.esm 63 3f SPERG.esp 130 82 SPERG-DB.esp 131 83 SPERG-DG.esp Three mods doing more or less the same thing. 29 1d SkyTweak.esp 30 1e Grimy Utilities Interface.esp 38 26 WM_WidgetMod .esp How many heads does your character have? 16 10 ApachiiHairMales.esm 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 18 12 ApachiiHair.esm 19 13 SGHairPackBase.esm 76 4c SGHairPackAIO.esp 77 4d KS Hairdo's.esp Three mods doing more or less the same thing again, and taking up 5 slots. 136 88 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 137 89 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 138 8a Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp 139 8b ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 140 8c LostGrimoire.esp I suppose 'less' and 'more' will balance out. 37 25 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 145 91 AHZmoreHUD.esp Two mods taking 4 slots. 88 58 Cloaks.esp 108 6c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 89 59 1nivWICCloaks.esp 90 5a 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp I don't know all of these but I'll bet they all add extra NPCs. 10 a Falskaar.esm 11 b Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp 12 c Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 51 33 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 52 34 Sanctuary Reborn.esp 62 3e Helgen Reborn.esp 66 42 Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 67 43 hearthfireextended.esp 96 60 HeljarchenFarm.esp 97 61 WindstadMine.esp 105 69 RavenCastle.esp 113 71 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp All these definitely do. 45 2d 3DNPC.esp 54 36 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 65 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 70 46 Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp 85 55 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 95 5f Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp 98 62 Immersive Wenches.esp 99 63 Deadly Wenches.esp 100 64 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 101 65 Immersive Patrols II.esp 199 c7 Populated Solstheim.esp 121 79 Falskaar Wildlife.esp 200 c8 FFSolstheim1.esp How many races do you need installed at once? How many follower mods? How many armour, clothing or weapon mods? You could half that mod list and have a better looking, more stable game.
Andy14 Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 There is a new game and the crash is near the Pelagia Farm? Do a test: Spawn the companions to you and a giant. (Farkas, Aela and the other) Maybe a problem with these NPCs (skeleton etc.) And as mentioned above: Less is more - mods
wanrandy92 Posted June 25, 2018 Author Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 12:30 AM, Grey Cloud said: An old mod taking up 4 slots. 9 9 SPERG.esm 63 3f SPERG.esp 130 82 SPERG-DB.esp 131 83 SPERG-DG.esp Three mods doing more or less the same thing. 29 1d SkyTweak.esp 30 1e Grimy Utilities Interface.esp 38 26 WM_WidgetMod .esp How many heads does your character have? 16 10 ApachiiHairMales.esm 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 18 12 ApachiiHair.esm 19 13 SGHairPackBase.esm 76 4c SGHairPackAIO.esp 77 4d KS Hairdo's.esp Three mods doing more or less the same thing again, and taking up 5 slots. 136 88 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 137 89 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 138 8a Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp 139 8b ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 140 8c LostGrimoire.esp I suppose 'less' and 'more' will balance out. 37 25 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 145 91 AHZmoreHUD.esp Two mods taking 4 slots. 88 58 Cloaks.esp 108 6c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 89 59 1nivWICCloaks.esp 90 5a 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp I don't know all of these but I'll bet they all add extra NPCs. 10 a Falskaar.esm 11 b Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp 12 c Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 51 33 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 52 34 Sanctuary Reborn.esp 62 3e Helgen Reborn.esp 66 42 Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 67 43 hearthfireextended.esp 96 60 HeljarchenFarm.esp 97 61 WindstadMine.esp 105 69 RavenCastle.esp 113 71 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp All these definitely do. 45 2d 3DNPC.esp 54 36 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 65 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 70 46 Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp 85 55 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 95 5f Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp 98 62 Immersive Wenches.esp 99 63 Deadly Wenches.esp 100 64 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 101 65 Immersive Patrols II.esp 199 c7 Populated Solstheim.esp 121 79 Falskaar Wildlife.esp 200 c8 FFSolstheim1.esp How many races do you need installed at once? How many follower mods? How many armour, clothing or weapon mods? You could half that mod list and have a better looking, more stable game. Less Intrusive HUD and Widget mod are for Customizable UI replacer so that is why I put it in my load order. Based on what you said, I removed the Populated mods, the custom races and SPO. I'm gonna see if it helps and then I'll get back to you. The hairs are needed by some of the NPC overhauls.
GenioMaestro Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Not try solve a CTD with 222 mods. Remove half of your mods and try with 111. If get CTD make half again. When get a stable point slowly start install more mod's, never more that 5 at the same time, and test it, all five and the CTD point. As say Grey Cloudm: If you are not already, use ENBoost http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost I recomend install Crash Fixes 12 with SKSE Plugin Preloader for use "UseOSAllocators=1". And revise your skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini. Use BethINI if not know make it manually. I have near 200 mods and move 12 or 14 moded followers with me. If i remove ENBoost or Crash Fixes or "UseOSAllocators=1" my game make CTD. I test it. Note that i not have a super machine, only an old i5 4460 with gtx660 2g.
wanrandy92 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said: Not try solve a CTD with 222 mods. Remove half of your mods and try with 111. If get CTD make half again. When get a stable point slowly start install more mod's, never more that 5 at the same time, and test it, all five and the CTD point. As say Grey Cloudm: If you are not already, use ENBoost http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost I recomend install Crash Fixes 12 with SKSE Plugin Preloader for use "UseOSAllocators=1". And revise your skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini. Use BethINI if not know make it manually. I have near 200 mods and move 12 or 14 moded followers with me. If i remove ENBoost or Crash Fixes or "UseOSAllocators=1" my game make CTD. I test it. Note that i not have a super machine, only an old i5 4460 with gtx660 2g. I already have ENBoost, Crash Fixes with that UseOSAllocators set properly, I just had done the BethINI and will see how it looks. And I will try your first mentioned method.
wanrandy92 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 On 6/25/2018 at 12:30 AM, Grey Cloud said: An old mod taking up 4 slots. 9 9 SPERG.esm 63 3f SPERG.esp 130 82 SPERG-DB.esp 131 83 SPERG-DG.esp Three mods doing more or less the same thing. 29 1d SkyTweak.esp 30 1e Grimy Utilities Interface.esp 38 26 WM_WidgetMod .esp How many heads does your character have? 16 10 ApachiiHairMales.esm 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 18 12 ApachiiHair.esm 19 13 SGHairPackBase.esm 76 4c SGHairPackAIO.esp 77 4d KS Hairdo's.esp Three mods doing more or less the same thing again, and taking up 5 slots. 136 88 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 137 89 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp 138 8a Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.esp 139 8b ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 140 8c LostGrimoire.esp I suppose 'less' and 'more' will balance out. 37 25 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp 145 91 AHZmoreHUD.esp Two mods taking 4 slots. 88 58 Cloaks.esp 108 6c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 89 59 1nivWICCloaks.esp 90 5a 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp I don't know all of these but I'll bet they all add extra NPCs. 10 a Falskaar.esm 11 b Unofficial Falskaar Patch.esp 12 c Wyrmstooth.esp 8 8 BBLuxurySuite.esm 51 33 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 52 34 Sanctuary Reborn.esp 62 3e Helgen Reborn.esp 66 42 Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp 67 43 hearthfireextended.esp 96 60 HeljarchenFarm.esp 97 61 WindstadMine.esp 105 69 RavenCastle.esp 113 71 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp All these definitely do. 45 2d 3DNPC.esp 54 36 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 65 41 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 70 46 Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp 85 55 Inconsequential NPCs.esp 95 5f Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp 98 62 Immersive Wenches.esp 99 63 Deadly Wenches.esp 100 64 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 101 65 Immersive Patrols II.esp 199 c7 Populated Solstheim.esp 121 79 Falskaar Wildlife.esp 200 c8 FFSolstheim1.esp How many races do you need installed at once? How many follower mods? How many armour, clothing or weapon mods? You could half that mod list and have a better looking, more stable game. Seems like after I removed the Populated mods and the kinky animal stuffs, I seem to not crash while going into the Whiterun Hold. My guess would be either of those are mucking up the game for me. I guess I went overboard with modding.
SleepyJim Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 That area is a notorious CTD hotspot, and when I was suffering the same problem my googling turned up running out of VRAM as the most likely cause. Personally, I removed fair skin complexion, went back to my old mix of mature skin/SG renewal, and never had a crash there again. There's just a lot of stuff that gets loaded in at once in that zone. I don't think fair skin itself was to blame (enough people use it without problems that it's obviously ok) but it was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. So my advice would be to cut down on the number and quality of texture mods you use, and think about using something like optimised vanilla textures. Worked for me at least.
wanrandy92 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, SleepyJim said: That area is a notorious CTD hotspot, and when I was suffering the same problem my googling turned up running out of VRAM as the most likely cause. Personally, I removed fair skin complexion, went back to my old mix of mature skin/SG renewal, and never had a crash there again. There's just a lot of stuff that gets loaded in at once in that zone. I don't think fair skin itself was to blame (enough people use it without problems that it's obviously ok) but it was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. So my advice would be to cut down on the number and quality of texture mods you use, and think about using something like optimised vanilla textures. Worked for me at least. I was using Demoniac texture but I'm using the 2k ones, maybe it does have a problem too.
Grey Cloud Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 There are a few spots around the map which are notorious for crashing. I consider them as weak spots - places where an overloaded game will cause a break. This is why it is never the same mod or combination of mods which 'cause' the problem - it is more 'the straw which broke the camel's back'. Counter-measures can be taken, such as cutting down on the number of mods; removing mods which affect that particular area; reducing texture quality etc. Using ENBoost, CrashFixes and Bethini will reduce the number of CTD's dramatically. I don't know why I didn't recommend the latter two as I use them myself. The 'binary chop' method (halving your mod list) is good for pinpointing a problematic mod but usually the problem lies elsewhere. Most of the 'bad' mods have been rooted out by now. When it comes to mod choice there are several things that can be done to minimise the chance of later problems. In no particular order: 1. Look at the mod's upload date - how old is it? Look at the 'last updated' date - is it still being maintained? How many downloads/endorsements? 2. Look at the support thread - is it busy with complaints and problems? 3. Always read the description paying attention to any requirements. Try to avoid mods which require other mods or patches in order to function. Required mods and patches can soon bump up your load order and it is very easy to forget about them if you eventually uninstall the original mod. 4. Get to know the mods - what mods there are; what they do, etc. A lot of the time it is possible to find one mod which fulfills the role of two others. 5. Use 'Follow' or 'Track' to keep your mods up to date. Don't rush to install the latest version - give them a few days in case any issues crop up. Let others discover the problems. 6. Know your system - its capabilities and its limits. See Genio's comment in post #11, last paragraph.
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