Deviously Cursed Loot SE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[zarantha]

On 7/8/2021 at 3:54 PM, aaduwall said:

I'm not seeing this mentioned previously, but I'm having a compatibility issue between DCL and LAL in Skyrim SE.  When completing Chloe's Quest in Helgen Keep Caves, after finding the Torn Note and leaving the chamber with the giant spiders, I receive the message: "using console commands to bypass things will break your game STOP IT!"

 

After that I am teleported outside of Helgen Keep again.  Chloe runs up and joins me upon leaving Helgen, so I am able to continue the quest and it's not game-breaking, but still annoying.

 

I looked up the message online and it is definitely coming from the SE version LAL (LE version I never had this problem, and it seems like LAL lacked the ability to produce such a message in that version).  It appears to have been put in place by the mod author to prevent players from using console commands to bypass the rubble blocking off the lower portion of the Helgen Keep Caves and force them to use the lower entrance to access this area instead, triggering part of his version of the Skyrim Unbound questline.  DCL runs afoul of it by letting players select "squeeze through the tight passage" to bypass the rubble without a console command.

 

Unfortunately, the LAL author has made it clear on the Nexus forums (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272?tab=posts) that he has nothing but contempt for anyone who complains about this feature of his mod, and has no intention of reading about or fixing compatibility issues caused by it.  Perhaps a future version of DCL for SE could work around this issue by removing the option to squeeze through the passage and having Chloe or a note on the last imperial body suggest using the lower entrance to the caves instead?  Or the torn note could be placed on the last body before the rubble?

 

That has been mentioned here before, I probably did it on the LE thread to improve the chances of kimy seeing it. (pretty sure you can find it using 'anti cheating script' or variation of that as a keyword search.) Yes, it is LAL, and since LAL has not been updated on the LE side for years, it never got this change. I have asked kimy for a change a long time ago, but it doesn't look like it will be done since it only affects SE.

 

All you can do is go through the caves until you are kicked out, picking the note up along the way, then go back out of helgen and around to the cave entrance/exit to pick ralof or hadvar.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, hungvipbcsok said:

So I am having trouble with the bounty system. All guard dialogue I choose let to nothing. The guard just finish his line and then stop me again for my crime. It is an endless loop which I never encounter in LE version. Here is my mod list if anyone can take a look i would be very appriciate. mod list 1.txt

 

If you've got anything other than DCL modifying the guard arrest dialogs or scripts, that will be a conflict. I think kimy is fixing an issue with the arrest when the bounty is too low, for now, if you kill a guard or something similar to get over 1000 bounty, it should proceed with sending you to prison.

 

maybe this - I don't use it so not sure exactly what it does.
"0057","+","Rude Imperial Soldiers Escort Prisoner fix -FORM44-ESL-"

 

Edited July 10, 2021 by zarantha

[hungvipbcsok]

19 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

If you've got anything other than DCL modifying the guard arrest dialogs or scripts, that will be a conflict. I think kimy is fixing an issue with the arrest when the bounty is too low, for now, if you kill a guard or something similar to get over 1000 bounty, it should proceed with sending you to prison.

 

maybe this - I don't use it so not sure exactly what it does.
"0057","+","Rude Imperial Soldiers Escort Prisoner fix -FORM44-ESL-"

 

That mods is modifying the escort prisoner on Skyrim road, it do nothing to guard bounty dialogue. The only things is modifying this is SLUTS which add another dialogue for the guard to send pc to SLUTS event. But I have the patch DCL SLUTS. Weird. 

Maybe it is a scripts lag because I use too many scripts mod like Forstfall, hunterborn,... I need to do some more testing.

[zarantha]

44 minutes ago, hungvipbcsok said:

That mods is modifying the escort prisoner on Skyrim road, it do nothing to guard bounty dialogue. The only things is modifying this is SLUTS which add another dialogue for the guard to send pc to SLUTS event. But I have the patch DCL SLUTS. Weird. 

Maybe it is a scripts lag because I use too many scripts mod like Forstfall, hunterborn,... I need to do some more testing.

 

If the SLUTS DCL patch overwrites DCL, was it updated for DCL 9.0? old patches overwriting new scripts will break DCL.

[hungvipbcsok]

50 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

If the SLUTS DCL patch overwrites DCL, was it updated for DCL 9.0? old patches overwriting new scripts will break DCL.

Confirm. That is the culprit. Removing it and everything is working fine again.

[Elsidia]

On 7/8/2021 at 10:54 PM, aaduwall said:

using console commands to bypass things will break your game STOP IT!

This is LAL message. And made it for LAL start to disable your chance to save both NPC from cave.

This error is fixed easily: when you end captured princess quest, enter in Helgen caves from cave side and complete quest by save one of injured there NPC. Then there cave collapses and no more you can end this quest second time by save second NPC. Now when you enter in Helgen keep from Helgen side you can complete Chloe quest and exit from caves normally.

If you not start without captured princess start then before enter in Helgen keep do the same thing.

 

[bigheaded561]

Mod is working fine, no issues here.

 

However i can't seem to get rubber doll quest or cursed collar to trigger at all. Set both of their weights to 100 and i've tried various different chests/locations. Can get the parasite with no issues.

 

Generally shoves me in a 2 keys required ball gag pretty much every time instead and i'm reasonably sure that isn't the quest.

 

Any thoughts?

Heck even console commands will do also (although i've never used any commands literally all i know is how to open the command window)

[zarantha]

5 minutes ago, bigheaded561 said:

Mod is working fine, no issues here.

 

However i can't seem to get rubber doll quest or cursed collar to trigger at all. Set both of their weights to 100 and i've tried various different chests/locations. Can get the parasite with no issues.

 

Generally shoves me in a 2 keys required ball gag pretty much every time instead and i'm reasonably sure that isn't the quest.

 

Any thoughts?

Heck even console commands will do also (although i've never used any commands literally all i know is how to open the command window)

 

cursed collar is part of the quest line now i thought. but try bumping all the other events down to zero and leave those two at 100. if the others aren't zero, then they still can trigger.

[Tylerja]

no matter what i do with bodyslide the catsuit and other breast garments they do not fit they balloon or are too small

 

[zarantha]

1 minute ago, Tylerja said:

no matter what i do with bodyslide the catsuit and other breast garments they do not fit they balloon or are too small

 

 

what body are you using and what option did you install?

you did install the DD SE download from the first post on the thread right? you do not have DDa, DDi, or DDx installed separately and overwriting the SE version?

[Tylerja]

6 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

what body are you using and what option did you install?

you did install the DD SE download from the first post on the thread right? you do not have DDa, DDi, or DDx installed separately and overwriting the SE version?

too my knowledge i tried redownloading DD Se and overwriting then using bodyslide and overwriting and it didnt work im new to this so any input is welcome all the breasts balloon out on the hobble skirts aswell, i messed around with bodyslide quite a bit, im wondering if its not a character issue with bodymorphs are something, but i dont know how to create a body preset to use in game

Edited July 10, 2021 by Tylerja

[zarantha]

12 minutes ago, Tylerja said:

too my knowledge i tried redownloading DD Se and overwriting then using bodyslide and overwriting and it didnt work im new to this so any input is welcome all the breasts balloon out on the hobble skirts aswell, i messed around with bodyslide quite a bit, im wondering if its not a character issue with bodymorphs are something, but i dont know how to create a body preset to use in game

 

What is the conflict on DD and how did you resolve it? Click that green lightning bolt on the right of DD. If you've got DD installed multiple times, delete the old  installs.

Are you using CBBE SE, 3BBB, CBBE 3BBB, UNP, or BHUNP for your naked body?

[bigheaded561]

32 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

cursed collar is part of the quest line now i thought. but try bumping all the other events down to zero and leave those two at 100. if the others aren't zero, then they still can trigger.

 

bumped them all down to 0, all i get is a slave gag 100% of the time, tried running around with this for an hour and waiting over a week and no quest so presuming this isn't the item.

 

Also tried just buying the rubber slave collar from dollmaker, also doesnt activate a quest

[Tylerja]

5 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

What is the conflict on DD and how did you resolve it? Click that green lightning bolt on the right of DD. If you've got DD installed multiple times, delete the old  installs.

Are you using CBBE SE, 3BBB, CBBE 3BBB, UNP, or BHUNP for your naked body?

[Tylerja]

31 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

What is the conflict on DD and how did you resolve it? Click that green lightning bolt on the right of DD. If you've got DD installed multiple times, delete the old  installs.

Are you using CBBE SE, 3BBB, CBBE 3BBB, UNP, or BHUNP for your naked body?

i deleted both an reinstalled the conflict is with Zaz animations not sure what way it should be resovled

i also delete zaz 8.0 and redownloaded zaz 7. still  a conflict which way do you think i should resolve it

Edited July 10, 2021 by Tylerja

[zarantha]

2 minutes ago, Tylerja said:

i deleted both an reinstalled the conflict is with Zaz animations not sure what way it should be resovled

 

 

No that conflict is fine - it's the same textures either way so it doesn't matter. I just wanted to be sure it wasn't some other mod.

 

 

Get the 3BBB bodyslides linked here and rebuild the bodyslides.

 

[Tylerja]

16 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

No that conflict is fine - it's the same textures either way so it doesn't matter. I just wanted to be sure it wasn't some other mod.

 

 

Get the 3BBB bodyslides linked here and rebuild the bodyslides.

 

 

which of these am i downloading? lol im assuming just the second but idk lol

 

Required for 3BBB:

• 1st DD 3BBB conversion: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11938-3ba-bodyslides-for-devious-devices-43-aio/
  Needs to be updated for new outfits in DD 5.0 / 5.1.
• DCL 3BBB conversion: https://mega.nz/file/8GYmGSYL#NenQzfc8Ni7ReXYJabsueUqpOyiHa63P-CEXreDG-H0
• DCL 3BBB Transparent Zipsuit and updated Long Gloves (gloves work for CBBE SE too).
  DCL_3BA_Zipsuit_updated.7z
  DCL_Long_Gloves_v2.7z

 

 

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, bigheaded561 said:

rubber doll quest or cursed collar to trigger at all

Rubber doll quest not triggered because of events migration bug. Kimy knows about it and will be fixed in future i hope.

If you want trigger this quest, spawn rubber doll collar, put it on and wait while quest start.

As for cursed collar it's start normally for me. But i' m already completed cursed collar quest in Bound in skyrim line.

 

[zarantha]

6 minutes ago, Tylerja said:

 

which of these am i downloading? lol im assuming just the second but idk lol

 

Required for 3BBB:

• 1st DD 3BBB conversion: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/11938-3ba-bodyslides-for-devious-devices-43-aio/
  Needs to be updated for new outfits in DD 5.0 / 5.1.
• DCL 3BBB conversion: https://mega.nz/file/8GYmGSYL#NenQzfc8Ni7ReXYJabsueUqpOyiHa63P-CEXreDG-H0
• DCL 3BBB Transparent Zipsuit and updated Long Gloves (gloves work for CBBE SE too).
  DCL_3BA_Zipsuit_updated.7z
  DCL_Long_Gloves_v2.7z

 

 

 

All of them. The first link fixes the outfits in DD, the second link fixes the outfits in DCL, and the other two files are hotfixes for the second link.

[bigheaded561]

12 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

Rubber doll quest not triggered because of events migration bug. Kimy knows about it and will be fixed in future i hope.

If you want trigger this quest, spawn rubber doll collar, put it on and wait while quest start.

As for cursed collar it's start normally for me. But i' m already completed cursed collar quest in Bound in skyrim line.

 

 

Command to spawn it? as i said i'm extremely new to console commands

[judge007]

6 minutes ago, bigheaded561 said:

 

Command to spawn it? as i said i'm extremely new to console commands

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17563

 

user friendly

[bigheaded561]

9 minutes ago, judge007 said:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17563

 

user friendly

thank you!

 

Thanks to my other helps also!

[Tylerja]

45 minutes ago, zarantha said:

ill let you know if it fixes the inflation effect or the padded bras being too small

for google purposes im just replying like this

Devious Devices inflated breasts too big breasts inflated tits 

cursed loot bodyslide cursed loot bodyslide inflated breasts inflated tits ballooning tits breast 

 

 

 

[Tylerja]

On 7/10/2021 at 12:17 PM, zarantha said:

 

All of them. The first link fixes the outfits in DD, the second link fixes the outfits in DCL, and the other two files are hotfixes for the second link.

It worked just having trouble with physics clipping,

 

is ther any chance someone can add warmth too these outfits XD 

[unmog]

I'm not exactly sure this is a cursed loot issue but I'm guessing it is. In Helgens dungeon I make it pretty far, find chloe, continue on, fight the spiders, and just before where you normally fight the bear it gives me this error. "Using console commands to bypass things will break your game. STOP IT!" and then teleports me back outside in Helgen. Thing is, I'm not using any console commands... tried running back a few times and it pops up that message each time at the same place, re-teleporting me back outside the keep.

The only thing I can think of is it's trying to run something when I get there and something is breaking. Any idea whats going wrong or how to fix it? Maybe of importance, but I have live another life and didn't start with the basic beginning, just went back finally to try the new Chloe quest. I guess nothing is seriously broken, I already found the corpse with the note on it. Just kinda irks my OCD that I cant finish the dungeon and Im so close to the end. I'll try finding the cave and going through backwards to see if anything happens.

Yea I could go into the back no problem and finish the LAL stuff, still, figured Id report it for being a weird bug...