Elsidia Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, Azazel92 said: During "Bound Queen", when I'm sent to Nightgate inn, I can't remember what you need here in Bound queen quest? If you are on SE, install that mod and post crash log. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21294 It's located into D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\NetScriptFramework\Crash
zarantha Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Azazel92 said: I'm having an issue with the Bound Queen quest. So I deinstalled the mod and reinstalled it after having multiple issues with it (I posted my last issue on LE version - silly me ?). Right now I'm doing "Bound in Skyrim" questline. During "Bound Queen", when I'm sent to Nightgate inn, I get CTD no matter what I do (fast travel, walk, coc into the cell). I would provide logs, but I don't know how ? Also, I was a complete idiot and didn't create saves after each part of the key, but everything was running smoothly and I wasn't expecting it to break so completely Another thing: I'm using a mark/recall spell from Naruto mod, so maybe that caused some issue. Any and all help will be very much appreciated ❤️ Never heard of that crash on either version, so it's more likely to be one of your other mods editing that area or a conflict between this mod and another. We'll need the netscriptframework crash log as Elsidia mentioned.
Azazel92 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, zarantha said: Never heard of that crash on either version, so it's more likely to be one of your other mods editing that area or a conflict between this mod and another. We'll need the netscriptframework crash log as Elsidia mentioned. Thank you, sending the log now Crash_2021_7_28_17-4-24.txt
zarantha Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Azazel92 said: Thank you, sending the log now Crash_2021_7_28_17-4-24.txt 47.47 kB · 2 downloads Looks like it's caused by dawnguard arsenal. Several dawnguard npcs are called out (isran, celann). If that mod changes facegen, that could be your issue. try regenerating the facegen for those npcs with that mod active, or removing dawnguard arsenal. Immersive creature is also called out in the stack, and that mod is known for causing CTDs. Try disabling additional spawns in the IC MCM, and reset the cells before trying to go to that area again. DCL is listed, but only as one of the mods in area of the world at that time. None of the NPCs listed later are part of DCL, nor are any of the other object IDs related to DCL. These are the likely objects/NPCs: Possible relevant objects (9) { [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Isran`, FormId: 0200336A, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`) [ 1] Character(FormId: 02015C15, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp`, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Celann`, FormId: 0201541E, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`)) [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Celann`, FormId: 0201541E, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`) [ 1] Character(FormId: FF00279D, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Dawnguard Horse`, FormId: FF0026D1)) [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Dawnguard Horse`, FormId: FF0026D1) [ 1] Character(FormId: 02003478, File: `Dawnguard.esm`, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Isran`, FormId: 0200336A, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`)) This is the section showing what's editing the world: [ 73] TESWorldSpace(Name: Tamriel `Skyrim`, FormId: 0000003C, File: `Deviously Cursed Loot.esp <- Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp <- robes of the archmagus.esp <- The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp <- MF_RadiantProstitution.esp <- Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp <- enhancedskyforge.esp <- konahrik_accoutrements.esp <- UchihaClan.esp <- naruto overhaul.esp <- Immersive Patrols II.esp <- Laura's Bondage Shop.esp <- Immersive Horses.esp <- Devious Lore.esp <- SeranaDialogAddon.esp <- Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp <- goodbrother.esp <- OBIS SE.esp <- Cutting Room Floor.esp <- Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp <- SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp <- Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm <- JSwordsD.esm <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dragonborn.esm <- HearthFires.esm <- Dawnguard.esm <- Update.esm <- Skyrim.esm`) [ 128] TESQuest(Name: SIC_WERoad07 `Dawnguard Horse Patrol`, FormId: 1C5E6924, File: `Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp`) [ 134] TESPackage(FormId: 1C5E6927, File: `Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp`) }
judge007 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Azazel92 said: Thank you, sending the log now Crash_2021_7_28_17-4-24.txt 47.47 kB · 3 downloads 13 minutes ago, zarantha said: Looks like it's caused by dawnguard arsenal. Several dawnguard npcs are called out (isran, celann). If that mod changes facegen, that could be your issue. try regenerating the facegen for those npcs with that mod active, or removing dawnguard arsenal. Immersive creature is also called out in the stack, and that mod is known for causing CTDs. Try disabling additional spawns in the IC MCM, and reset the cells before trying to go to that area again. DCL is listed, but only as one of the mods in area of the world at that time. None of the NPCs listed later are part of DCL, nor are any of the other object IDs related to DCL. These are the likely objects/NPCs: Possible relevant objects (9) { [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Isran`, FormId: 0200336A, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`) [ 1] Character(FormId: 02015C15, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp`, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Celann`, FormId: 0201541E, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`)) [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Celann`, FormId: 0201541E, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`) [ 1] Character(FormId: FF00279D, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Dawnguard Horse`, FormId: FF0026D1)) [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Dawnguard Horse`, FormId: FF0026D1) [ 1] Character(FormId: 02003478, File: `Dawnguard.esm`, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Isran`, FormId: 0200336A, File: `DawnguardArsenal.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`)) This is the section showing what's editing the world: [ 73] TESWorldSpace(Name: Tamriel `Skyrim`, FormId: 0000003C, File: `Deviously Cursed Loot.esp <- Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp <- robes of the archmagus.esp <- The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp <- MF_RadiantProstitution.esp <- Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp <- enhancedskyforge.esp <- konahrik_accoutrements.esp <- UchihaClan.esp <- naruto overhaul.esp <- Immersive Patrols II.esp <- Laura's Bondage Shop.esp <- Immersive Horses.esp <- Devious Lore.esp <- SeranaDialogAddon.esp <- Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp <- goodbrother.esp <- OBIS SE.esp <- Cutting Room Floor.esp <- Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp <- SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp <- Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm <- JSwordsD.esm <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dragonborn.esm <- HearthFires.esm <- Dawnguard.esm <- Update.esm <- Skyrim.esm`) [ 128] TESQuest(Name: SIC_WERoad07 `Dawnguard Horse Patrol`, FormId: 1C5E6924, File: `Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp`) [ 134] TESPackage(FormId: 1C5E6927, File: `Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp`) } A load order that large will most likely require : proper sorting: use LOOT https://loot.github.io/ A bashed patch for conflict resolution, Wrye Bash - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837 the patch is particularly needed with massive worldspace changes like [73] indicates
zarantha Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, judge007 said: A load order that large I wouldn't call 136 plugins large 1
judge007 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, zarantha said: I wouldn't call 136 plugins large Large enough to crash, lol 1
zarantha Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, judge007 said: Large enough to crash, lol All it takes is one for that, lol 1
Azazel92 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, zarantha said: Looks like it's caused by dawnguard arsenal. Several dawnguard npcs are called out (isran, celann). If that mod changes facegen, that could be your issue. try regenerating the facegen for those npcs with that mod active, or removing dawnguard arsenal. That's too bad, because I really wanted to try out this mod. I'll try tinkering with it 1 hour ago, judge007 said: proper sorting: use LOOT https://loot.github.io/ A bashed patch for conflict resolution, Wrye Bash - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6837 I already organised the load order with LOOT and cleaned the files with SSE Edit Ouick Auto-Clean, I'll try Wrye Bash and report back. Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it Update: Wrye Bash and disabling Dawnguard arsenal didn't solve the issue, As soon as the quest updates and animation starts with Nightgate Innkeeper the game crashes. I'm attaching the log Crash_2021_7_28_22-3-46.txt Edited July 28, 2021 by Azazel92
Elsidia Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Off-topic, but is really necessary clean Skyrim SE DLC esp with SSE edit? It helps to make stable or it can make more unstable Skyrim?
judge007 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Elsidia said: Off-topic, but is really necessary clean Skyrim SE DLC esp with SSE edit? It helps to make stable or it can make more unstable Skyrim? Yes
Elsidia Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Azazel92 said: Wrye Bash and disabling Dawnguard arsenal didn't solve the issue The same: [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Isran`, FormId: 0200336A, File: `Dawnguard.esm`) [ 1] Character(FormId: 02015C15, File: `Dawnguard.esm`, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Celann`, FormId: 0201541E, File: `Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`)) [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Celann`, FormId: 0201541E, File: `Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dawnguard.esm`) [ 1] Character(FormId: FF00279D, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Dawnguard Horse`, FormId: FF0026E9)) [ 1] TESNPC(Name: `Dawnguard Horse`, FormId: FF0026E9) [ 1] Character(FormId: 02003478, File: `Dawnguard.esm`, BaseForm: TESNPC(Name: `Isran`, FormId: 0200336A, File: `Dawnguard.esm`)) [ 73] TESWorldSpace(Name: Tamriel `Skyrim`, FormId: 0000003C, File: `Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp <- robes of the archmagus.esp <- The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp <- MF_RadiantProstitution.esp <- Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp <- enhancedskyforge.esp <- konahrik_accoutrements.esp <- UchihaClan.esp <- naruto overhaul.esp <- Immersive Patrols II.esp <- Laura's Bondage Shop.esp <- Immersive Horses.esp <- Devious Lore.esp <- SeranaDialogAddon.esp <- Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp <- goodbrother.esp <- OBIS SE.esp <- Cutting Room Floor.esp <- Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp <- SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp <- Deviously Cursed Loot.esp <- Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm <- JSwordsD.esm <- Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp <- Dragonborn.esm <- HearthFires.esm <- Dawnguard.esm <- Update.esm <- Skyrim.esm`) [ 128] TESQuest(Name: SIC_WERoad07 `Dawnguard Horse Patrol`, FormId: 1D5E6924, File: `Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp`) [ 134] TESPackage(FormId: 1D5E6927, File: `Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp`) The same: immersive creatures pack. Not disabled. Try disable it or change MMC of this mod as zarantha say and try again. If not CTD, try restore dawnguard arsenal. Maybe it's not guilty, but creature mod. UPD: If you disable this mod, you need rebuild fnis - as i suspect by name this mod contains animations. Edited July 28, 2021 by Elsidia
judge007 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Azazel92 said: That's too bad, because I really wanted to try out this mod. I'll try tinkering with it I already organised the load order with LOOT and cleaned the files with SSE Edit Ouick Auto-Clean, I'll try Wrye Bash and report back. Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it Update: Wrye Bash and disabling Dawnguard arsenal didn't solve the issue, As soon as the quest updates and animation starts with Nightgate Innkeeper the game crashes. I'm attaching the log Crash_2021_7_28_22-3-46.txt 42.33 kB · 0 downloads If you have nifskope on your system, you could check meshes for facegendata folders to see if any mod didn't convert the meshes to BSDynamicTriShape or BSTriShape. if you find mods with NiTriShape meshes, use SSE Nif Optimizer on mod folder. I find a LOT of mods that edit NPC and are supposedly SE compatible skip the head parts. earlier versions of Cathedral Assets Optimizer would "destripify" NiTriShapes, but leave them in NiTriShape format. Not animating mouth and eye parts properly.
zarantha Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Azazel92 said: That's too bad, because I really wanted to try out this mod. I'll try tinkering with it I already organised the load order with LOOT and cleaned the files with SSE Edit Ouick Auto-Clean, I'll try Wrye Bash and report back. Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it Update: Wrye Bash and disabling Dawnguard arsenal didn't solve the issue, As soon as the quest updates and animation starts with Nightgate Innkeeper the game crashes. I'm attaching the log Crash_2021_7_28_22-3-46.txt 42.33 kB · 2 downloads Still looks pretty much the same. Did you regenerate the facegen for those two npcs? Load up you're entire load order in xedit. Look for those two NPCs in dawnguard. Is anything overwriting them? Did you disable additional spawns in the Immersive Creatures MCM? Cell reset instructions for Immersive Creatures in on the last page of the MCM, if I remember correctly. Have you rerun FNIS? Any errors in FNIS? Edit: Follow the instructions here to redo facegen. Select all mods that modify NPCs and their appearance, you don't have to set a mod as active though. just say no on that pop up. https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Dark_Face_Bug Edited July 28, 2021 by zarantha
yOPynsP Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 11:43 PM, zarantha said: What other mods do you have installed? Can you try on a new game with only DCL and it's requirements? Make sure to stay away from Helgen so Chloe doesn't start. I disabled all other mods than those which DCL needed, and still no results. I did a pure new save file, exited helgen the normal way, coc'd myself out of it after chloe quest, and before the quest. Pretty much any hardcore type of gear isn't appearing, only small cuffs, collars and corsets are actually put on during the events. The rubber suit, the transparent catsuit and the ultra tight straitjacket definitely do not work.
Azazel92 Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, zarantha said: Still looks pretty much the same. Did you regenerate the facegen for those two npcs? Load up you're entire load order in xedit. Look for those two NPCs in dawnguard. Is anything overwriting them? Did you disable additional spawns in the Immersive Creatures MCM? Cell reset instructions for Immersive Creatures in on the last page of the MCM, if I remember correctly. Have you rerun FNIS? Any errors in FNIS? Edit: Follow the instructions here to redo facegen. Select all mods that modify NPCs and their appearance, you don't have to set a mod as active though. just say no on that pop up. https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Dark_Face_Bug Well, I did all of that (I'm 100% I did something wrong, wasn't familiar with Face regenerating) and the issue persisted. As soon as I waited to reset cells with Immersive Creatures my game crashed. Then I simply disabled Immersive Creatures and Immersive Patrols and just like that, the issue disappeared. So in summary: 15 hours ago, zarantha said: Did you regenerate the facegen for those two npcs? Yes 15 hours ago, zarantha said: Load up you're entire load order in xedit. Look for those two NPCs in dawnguard. Is anything overwriting them? the only thing that was overwritten were some perks and armor for Isran and Celean, no face edits 15 hours ago, zarantha said: Did you disable additional spawns in the Immersive Creatures MCM? Cell reset instructions for Immersive Creatures in on the last page of the MCM, if I remember correctly. Done that, as soon as I waited 12h to process reseting cells my game crashed 15 hours ago, zarantha said: Have you rerun FNIS? Any errors in FNIS? Yes Nothing solved the issue, booting Immersive Creatures and Immersive Patrols did Thank you so very much @zarantha @Elsidia @judge007 for finding time to help me with my issue This is only my second time writing on this forum and I really appreciate your help ? EDIT: I'll try to enable IC after finishing the quest and post the results Edited July 29, 2021 by Azazel92 2
zarantha Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 14 hours ago, yOPynsP said: I disabled all other mods than those which DCL needed, and still no results. I did a pure new save file, exited helgen the normal way, coc'd myself out of it after chloe quest, and before the quest. Pretty much any hardcore type of gear isn't appearing, only small cuffs, collars and corsets are actually put on during the events. The rubber suit, the transparent catsuit and the ultra tight straitjacket definitely do not work. Use LAL to use a start other than helgen. We don't want the chloe quest to start, because that quest will not allow traps while it's running. At least, I've never gotten a trap while it's running. You also need to be above a certain level, i think the default is now 3. So either finish the chloe quest before testing (take her all the way up to the dollmaker, finish one more quest with her, then drop her and don't start the next quest) or don't go to helgen at all.
zarantha Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Azazel92 said: Nothing solved the issue, booting Immersive Creatures and Immersive Patrols did Thank you so very much @zarantha @Elsidia @judge007 for finding time to help me with my issue This is only my second time writing on this forum and I really appreciate your help ? EDIT: I'll try to enable IC after finishing the quest and post the results When you enable it again, make sure additional spawns are disabled from the start, or try running it through CAO. that will unpack the bsa, optimize the meshes and repack it for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/hy6i7t/sse_ctd_with_skyrim_immersive_creatures/ https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/6062858-skyrim-immersive-creatures/page-93#entry88720418 There was something about editing the ai packages for the pups too, but I can't find that again.
Elsidia Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 @zarantha, @Azazel92, @judge007, i just was curious, download Immersive creatures, repack a bsa and CAO there found illegal facegen data. Seems before uses this mod you need repack bsa and run trough CAO. I do it before your post, because seems you really need use CAO if you want play this mod.
Elsidia Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, zarantha said: You also need to be above a certain level Depend on Cursed loot MCM default level is 1. There can change a minimal level in MCM. But maybe i wrong and also in script seems it's disabled level 3 requirement (by using ; symbol)
judge007 Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Elsidia said: @zarantha, @Azazel92, @judge007, i just was curious, download Immersive creatures, repack a bsa and CAO there found illegal facegen data. Seems before uses this mod you need repack bsa and run trough CAO. I do it before your post, because seems you really need use CAO if you want play this mod. Like I said earlier, a lot of mods ship that way. Worse you can't count on CAO, it misses meshes on occasion. I run all mods through SSE Nif Optimizer first, and use the batch file + HavokPostProcessor from Creation Kit for any animations. Then I use CAO, saves a lot of headache trying to find what it missed later on.
yOPynsP Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 5 hours ago, zarantha said: Use LAL to use a start other than helgen. We don't want the chloe quest to start, because that quest will not allow traps while it's running. At least, I've never gotten a trap while it's running. You also need to be above a certain level, i think the default is now 3. So either finish the chloe quest before testing (take her all the way up to the dollmaker, finish one more quest with her, then drop her and don't start the next quest) or don't go to helgen at all. I tried to do it without the helgen part, and did on one other save file which had the chloe quest(s) done. Neither worked, and when i use a chest that has any suit, even chloe as a follower doesnt wear the set. Is there any way to try to reset the mod without the MCM feature, as in downloading everything again? Or is there anything else left to try?
zarantha Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, yOPynsP said: I tried to do it without the helgen part, and did on one other save file which had the chloe quest(s) done. Neither worked, and when i use a chest that has any suit, even chloe as a follower doesnt wear the set. Is there any way to try to reset the mod without the MCM feature, as in downloading everything again? Or is there anything else left to try? Screenshot the mcm settings (general, events, devices, and debug) and attach a papyrus log after opening the chest.
yOPynsP Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, zarantha said: Screenshot the mcm settings (general, events, devices, and debug) and attach a papyrus log after opening the chest. ^
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