Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, homecrow said:

i have a problem with the mod, some devices are not displayed. I have run BodySlide, some of the devices are displayed correctly, others not. Maybe they are not handled correctly by BodySlide, maybe something else. I have tried a little bit with different loading order but unfortunately all without success, hope to find help here.
I have attached the list of my loaded mods, as well as a screenshot which hopefully shows the problem a bit better.

 

1 hour ago, cptashmaster said:

Tried reinstalling multiple times with both Vortex and ModOrganizer2, didn't help... homecrow above seems to be having the same problem...

 

So do you two see these missing outfits in bodyslide?

 

All I can say is check your mod folders or skyrim folder to see if the files are there. Invisible items are either the items in question haven't been bodyslided or you're missing them entirely (i.e. a bad install).

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, hidora said:

So does this work with SKSE 2.0.17 or no? I just setup SE for the first time and the dll installed by this mod is for 2.0.16 apparently, and since this is a clean install I don't have backups of older versions. Using steam console just tells me the manifests for older versions no longer exist, so I'm unable to downgrade it.

Yes. When installing the mod, select none for the dll. 

[zarantha]

29 minutes ago, pinkink said:

I tried everything you said, still nothing worked. Removed the hofix, rebuilt bodyslide, CTD'd, then readded the hotfix and tried running before and after running Bodyslide.

Also sorted my load order using LOOT.

Also, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, the creatures animations (Fom other mods, such as more nasty critters) don't work as well. Just nothing happens. I do have the FNIS creatures patch installed.

Any other idea?

 

Back to basic mod troubleshooting. Try with just the requirements for DD and a new game.

 

Make sure mnc., xpmse and 3bbb are at the end of your install/load order.

At this point, xpmse should have the same skeleton as mnc, so it can overwrite mnc, or mnc can overwrite xpmse. But nothing else can overwrite the skeleton (exceptions are abc and asos).

[hidora]

38 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Yes. When installing the mod, select none for the dll. 

I had done that, and I thought it didn't work because MO2 was giving a warning, but after launching the game for the first time the warning is gone. Weird.

[its_ash]

39 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

 

So do you two see these missing outfits in bodyslide?

 

All I can say is check your mod folders or skyrim folder to see if the files are there. Invisible items are either the items in question haven't been bodyslided or you're missing them entirely (i.e. a bad install).

I can see them in bodyslide. I've checked the meshes folder and they all seem to be there...

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, cptashmaster said:

I can see them in bodyslide. I've checked the meshes folder and they all seem to be there...

Which ones are you having a problem with?

 

And not trying to insult you or anything, before you batch build, you selected the dd groups?

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Syssiah]

On 3/1/2020 at 6:39 AM, zarantha said:

Into Data. I kept the folder structure, so people wouldn't need to look for the folder. mod managers should recognize it and install it correctly.

 

Batch build is like normal. i leave the selections on my body and preset, and check build morphs. Then click batch build and resolve any conflicts.

ok I did so. Then I opened my Bodyslide program and was able to see the BHUNP parts in the Choose group menu.

But when I batch build, again, nothing more happens. I checked on my game save and the body parts are still clipping unadjusted to the body.

 

What did I miss ? 

 

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, Syssiah said:

ok I did so. Then I opened my Bodyslide program and was able to see the BHUNP parts in the Choose group menu.

But when I batch build, again, nothing more happens. I checked on my game save and the body parts are still clipping unadjusted to the body.

 

What did I miss ? 

 

In that case, you'd likely need a full conversion from the unp body to bhunp. there were instructions on how to do that on the bhunp page, or you can wait for someone else to do the conversion. All I was explaining was how to get the presets to show. That doesn't mean it will fix clipping unless the bodies are almost exactly the same base size.

 

It works with cbbe se / 3bbb, because 3bbb just adds more breast bones and a vagina and anus, otherwise the body is the same. Sounds like that is not true for bhunp. It's more like the differences we had between the original cbbe (LE) and cbbe se. Everything needed converted.

[homecrow]

Okay, I think I found the error, somehow Bodyslide seems to have a problem if you have installed steam games in a different folder than the steam install?
Anyway, I just tracked the lady's shoes in the picture and found out that he put everything into a wrong meshes directory, after I copied the meshes created by bodyslide nto the correct one, all the missing textures were there.
Really a nasty bug...

 

 

 

PS: i used vortex to manage all the mods

[Dajovve]

19 hours ago, zarantha said:

Not that I know of. SexLab's option in the MCM is the only way I know of.

 

Well, a little more research and it looks like that was removed. Start reading the comments from here:
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/91861-sexlab-framework-se-163-beta-8-november-22nd-2019/?do=findComment&comment=2323426

 

 

You'll need to wait until ashal adds it back to sexlab, or someone writes new scripts for it.

Does that mean i'm not the only one with that problem?

 

I do have the option for it in my sexlab MCM though. Works for other high heels aswell, just not for the ones added by DD

[its_ash]

19 hours ago, zarantha said:

Which ones are you having a problem with?

 

And not trying to insult you or anything, before you batch build, you selected the dd groups?

 

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I did select the DD groups. I also tried opening some of the meshes in NIFSkope and they all seem to be just fine...

 

I didn't test everything but here goes:

 

no rope stuff works
gags work
blindfolds work
collars work except restrictive, chain; iron collar with chain works
hoods work
catsuit gloves work but clip; restrictive gloves don't work
mittens don't work
corsets don't work
bras don't work
belts don't work
chain harness stuff doesn't work except hands and feet
all straitjackets don't work
all hobble dresses don't work except the transparent one
armbinders work except rope
harnesses only show the collar
cuffs don't work
yoke doesn't work, uses armbinder animation for some reason
petsuits work
pony boots don't work
restrictive boots don't work
slave ballet heels work
chain fetters work

 

Edit (more info):

Potential quest spoiler ahead!

Spoiler

The rubber dress you get from Vekel in the supply and demand quest also works but the body type is wrong...

 

[pvpcake]

When installing this latest version, when it gets to the DDI-DDL option which one should i select? im running SSE 1.5.97 but there is no option for that

[Balmung889]

When I install the mod the game crashes (ctd) during loading.
I had no problems with Skyrim LE. What am I doing wrong?
I install with Vortex.

[Sennarok]

Yeah, having the same problem and came here to see if there was any solution noted. There's no guarantee this is the only thing crashing me to desktop, but it's the only one that managed to fire off an error about it in my logs. We're talking a near immediate crash, which seems to be strongly connected to SKSE/versioning/dlls, bad juju all around.

[its_ash]

7 hours ago, cptashmaster said:

I did select the DD groups. I also tried opening some of the meshes in NIFSkope and they all seem to be just fine...

 

I didn't test everything but here goes:

 

no rope stuff works
gags work
blindfolds work
collars work except restrictive, chain; iron collar with chain works
hoods work
catsuit gloves work but clip; restrictive gloves don't work
mittens don't work
corsets don't work
bras don't work
belts don't work
chain harness stuff doesn't work except hands and feet
all straitjackets don't work
all hobble dresses don't work except the transparent one
armbinders work except rope
harnesses only show the collar
cuffs don't work
yoke doesn't work, uses armbinder animation for some reason
petsuits work
pony boots don't work
restrictive boots don't work
slave ballet heels work
chain fetters work

 

Edit (more info):

Potential quest spoiler ahead!

  Reveal hidden contents

The rubber dress you get from Vekel in the supply and demand quest also works but the body type is wrong...

 

A'ight, I think I'm gonna fucking shoot myself... It turns out BodySlide was putting some of the built meshes (not all of them though for some fucking reason) in the wrong fucking folder (Skyrim/meshes instead of Skyrim/Data/meshes)... I moved the files manually and now everything works... *FACEPALM*

[Sennarok]

5 hours ago, Spiders_Venom said:

When installing this latest version, when it gets to the DDI-DDL option which one should i select? im running SSE 1.5.97 but there is no option for that

Answering my own question and yours as well: Just don't take a DLL. It works and doesn't give me any compatibility errors. The errors I was experiencing were unrelated.

 

 

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But I do have a question: Is there any good way to synchronize a wobbly chastity bra and tits, or get a stiff chastity bra that disables titwobbles underneath it? I'm currently suffering the worst of both worlds, which is the tits and the bra jiggle with my specific physics setup but neither of them is perfectly in sync with the other.

 

That body/physics setup is. . .

CBBE SE

CBPC

HDT-SMP

Sinful CBP 

The Legendary booty Body

CBBE 3BBB

 

(Probably some of those are redundant which probably doesn't help, but, I dunno what I'm doing!!!)

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, homecrow said:

Okay, I think I found the error, somehow Bodyslide seems to have a problem if you have installed steam games in a different folder than the steam install?
Anyway, I just tracked the lady's shoes in the picture and found out that he put everything into a wrong meshes directory, after I copied the meshes created by bodyslide nto the correct one, all the missing textures were there.
Really a nasty bug...

 

 

 

PS: i used vortex to manage all the mods

 

 

Are you launching bodyslide from vortex?

And looks like your path may be wrong?

Edit: Someone else has the same thing. Maybe a bodyslide issue?

 

The path should include 'data'. You can get to settings in bodyslide on the bottom right.

[zarantha]

12 hours ago, Dajovve said:

Does that mean i'm not the only one with that problem?

 

I do have the option for it in my sexlab MCM though. Works for other high heels aswell, just not for the ones added by DD

Probably not, but I avoid high heels whenever possible. I have enough problems trying to walk in them irl, so I don't see the appeal in game

 

I can try checking the nif to see if there's maybe some string data attached that might need updated for SE.

What item are you wearing with this issue?

What item mod do you see where this works?

I'll try to compare the two. Can't promise I can check before the weekend.

 

@Pfiffy Have you seen any issues with DD heels not clearing height in animations even with the clear hh checked in sexlab?

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, cptashmaster said:

A'ight, I think I'm gonna fucking shoot myself... It turns out BodySlide was putting some of the built meshes (not all of them though for some fucking reason) in the wrong fucking folder (Skyrim/meshes instead of Skyrim/Data/meshes)... I moved the files manually and now everything works... *FACEPALM*

oh geez....

 

That sounds like homecrow just above you. Path ok in bodyslide? If you use MO or Vortex, are you launching bodyslide from the mod manager?

If it's all correct, you might try checking on the bodyslide mod posts on nexus.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, Balmung889 said:

When I install the mod the game crashes (ctd) during loading.
I had no problems with Skyrim LE. What am I doing wrong?
I install with Vortex.

How many animations do you have, and have you installed sse engine fixes (or animation crash fixes for se)?

Crash during loading can be too many animations, try removing a few packs and then rerun fnis.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Sennarok said:

But I do have a question: Is there any good way to synchronize a wobbly chastity bra and tits, or get a stiff chastity bra that disables titwobbles underneath it? I'm currently suffering the worst of both worlds, which is the tits and the bra jiggle with my specific physics setup but neither of them is perfectly in sync with the other.

 

That body/physics setup is. . .

CBBE SE

CBPC

HDT-SMP

Sinful CBP 

The Legendary booty Body

CBBE 3BBB

 

(Probably some of those are redundant which probably doesn't help, but, I dunno what I'm doing!!!)

Nothing there is redundant, except maybe booty body. I haven't used that one.

3bbb requires cbbe se. sinful is a config settings manager for cbpc. 3bbb uses both cbpc and hdt smp for physics.

 

Don't build the hdt version of the chastity bra for no wobbles. The hdt version has the breast bones/weight, so it moves like a breast.

The breasts wobbling out of sync with the bra is probably because you have the cbbe se sliders instead of the 3bbb sliders. so two different sets of bones between the item and the body. I was working on that, but someone else released theirs first a few days ago. Seems ok.

 

 

[Balmung889]

3 hours ago, zarantha said:

How many animations do you have, and have you installed sse engine fixes (or animation crash fixes for se)?

Crash during loading can be too many animations, try removing a few packs and then rerun fnis.

Ok I will try to remove some animation packs.
Sorry ignorance but, only the animation packages connected to Sexlab can give problems, or even all the other animations?
Example walking animations, fighting animations ...

 

Edit: Ok, now the game works, thank you!
I have another small problem. My character has his hands tied behind his back. This just loaded the game without doing anything yet. I checked the inventory but didn't equip anything.
I am in Withrun and I noticed that another character was walking with the animation with his hands tied forward.
The other female characters (the ones I met in those 5 minutes of testing) were normal.

[zarantha]

3 minutes ago, Balmung889 said:

Ok I will try to remove some animation packs.
Sorry ignorance but, only the animation packages connected to Sexlab can give problems, or even all the other animations?
Example walking animations, fighting animations ...

It's all the animations together - your total count at the bottom of fnis after it runs.

To test if it's the animations, its usually easiest to remove poser packs or slal packs.

the fighting and walking animations are possible too if there are a lot of animations in them, butI think those are usually smaller.

 

or if you haven't installed it yet, install sse fixes. it increases the animation count, and does other fixes. If the limitation isn't with your computer you may not have to remove packs.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230

[Balmung889]

55 minutes ago, zarantha said:

It's all the animations together - your total count at the bottom of fnis after it runs.

To test if it's the animations, its usually easiest to remove poser packs or slal packs.

the fighting and walking animations are possible too if there are a lot of animations in them, butI think those are usually smaller.

 

or if you haven't installed it yet, install sse fixes. it increases the animation count, and does other fixes. If the limitation isn't with your computer you may not have to remove packs.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230

Done, i also installed sse fixes.

 

Sorry, I don't want to look like someone who takes advantage of it, but how can I solve the other problem?

 

It's bad to have the character walking with his hands tied behind his back. ?

[POLI123456789]

hello,i got a problem after i install the mod.

when i enter the game and get a mission my character's body gone invisible.

and i try to use sseedit to scan my mod but it still dose't make it better