Skyrim Chain Beasts

[SparrowR]

On 7/12/2019 at 5:38 PM, TheQueenofTraps said:

It is CTD on starting the game but I'm pretty sure I have everything installed.

Here's my load order:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SMSkyrim.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Amputator.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
DeviousFramework.esm
paradise_halls.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
SkyrimChainBeasts.esm
Immersive Wenches.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
OBIS SE.esp
Trapped in Rubber.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
zThingsInDark.esp
WhiterunAddition.esp
DovahThayShip.esp
SexyFollowerOverhaulSSE.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
AOTFollower_Mikasan Ver2.2.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
BotoxSE_Vanilla.esp
DIS_Armor_Replacer.esp
SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
Daedric Della.esp
Deadly Wenches.esp
Demon Armor.esp
DD_Helpers_SSE.esp
Devious Loading Screens.esp
DW.esp
dse-display-model.esp
Dwarven Modular Automaton.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
zzEstrus.esp
00FacialExpressions.esp
FloppySOS.esp
Forgotten Wenches.esp
HeightSizeFix.esp
GirlHeavyArmor.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SexLab Beastess.esp
[SunJeong] Lovers Lab Collection 3-0.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
Bandit_Honeypot.esp
LostValley.esp
Lucie_HCR.esp
_CPR_BucketHead.esp
HOBRoxanne.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsIntegration.esp
PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp
MiasLair.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
AaliyahFollowerByAsherz.esp
Abigail The Maid.esp
BlackRose.esp
BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
TentaCave.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
Hateful Wenches.esp
ERF - Ceraph.esp
Dwemermatron.esp
S_L_U_T_S.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp
zDarkArena.esp
GemstoneMaidensStandalone.esp
HornyCreatures.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
DovahkiinFollower.esp
[SunJeong] Hezimao.esp
HumanoidVampires.esp
Brows.esp
IdiotElfFollowerSE.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Ikumi Nakamura.esp
pchsImmersivePlugs.esp
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
Judgment Wenches.esp
Kalena Rios.esp
NewKara.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SolitudeNPC.esp
Whiterun2.esp
SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
TMHousecarls.esp
MBWSFollowersReplacer.esp
mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Megumin.esp
Merchant Injector.esp
NewmillerPiercings2.esp
NewmillerPiercings3.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp
Milker Movil Armor.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
Nier Automata.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
pahe-tdf-patch.esp
PAN_Carmilla.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
UD_Serana.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RicherMerchants.esp
HVBodyPaints.esp
Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SeranaDNP.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
Beastess Forsworn.esp
Immersive Arousal.esp
TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SlaveTats.esp
KomAnimObjectsSBT.esp
Spartan Bard Outfit CBBE.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
Type2B_Follower.esp
TypeD18_Follower.esp
VeronicaFollower.esp
matedrestedwolf.esp
WetFunction.esp
Womanized Obis with Wenches.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
FNIS.esp
With Plug (armor).esp
With Plug (no armor).esp
Pirhelios.esp
CammyFollower.esp
LauranaTheFallenPrincess.esp
[SunJeong] Op Qinglang.esp
Poet.esp
_Imokko.esp
Elisabeth.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
blackreachrailroadnew.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Yang Xiao Long.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Lupusregina.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Albedo.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
SaveTheBrotherhood.esp
DBCO_ALL_IN_ONE.esp
kinkyKitty.esp
MannequinChicks.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Arche (Overlord).esp
Jinxxed Followers - Cattleya.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Clementine.esp
DMCinderFollower.esp
FNISspells.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Mei-Ling.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Shalltear Bloodfallen.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Ureirika and Kuuderika Twins.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Branwen.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Tifa Lockhart.esp
Aethernautics.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsDB.esp
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
Kangmina.esp
pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
Shura.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Gine (Dragon Ball).esp
HG_Eilonwy.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsITW.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsPH.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Curse of the Dragonborn - SC-MT.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
ImmerSlave.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
XPMSE.esp

 

what is that Nier Automata mod in the list? is it a follower? I've been trying to find a 2B follower mod compatible with Special Edition for weeks, could you please post a link to download that mod? the search has driven me to the edge of madness.

[SparrowR]

On 7/12/2019 at 5:38 PM, TheQueenofTraps said:

It is CTD on starting the game but I'm pretty sure I have everything installed.

Here's my load order:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SMSkyrim.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Amputator.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
DeviousFramework.esm
paradise_halls.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
SkyrimChainBeasts.esm
Immersive Wenches.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
OBIS SE.esp
Trapped in Rubber.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
zThingsInDark.esp
WhiterunAddition.esp
DovahThayShip.esp
SexyFollowerOverhaulSSE.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
AOTFollower_Mikasan Ver2.2.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
BotoxSE_Vanilla.esp
DIS_Armor_Replacer.esp
SorlisBalarnTreasure.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
Daedric Della.esp
Deadly Wenches.esp
Demon Armor.esp
DD_Helpers_SSE.esp
Devious Loading Screens.esp
DW.esp
dse-display-model.esp
Dwarven Modular Automaton.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
zzEstrus.esp
00FacialExpressions.esp
FloppySOS.esp
Forgotten Wenches.esp
HeightSizeFix.esp
GirlHeavyArmor.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SexLab Beastess.esp
[SunJeong] Lovers Lab Collection 3-0.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
Bandit_Honeypot.esp
LostValley.esp
Lucie_HCR.esp
_CPR_BucketHead.esp
HOBRoxanne.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsIntegration.esp
PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp
EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp
MiasLair.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
AaliyahFollowerByAsherz.esp
Abigail The Maid.esp
BlackRose.esp
BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
TentaCave.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
Hateful Wenches.esp
ERF - Ceraph.esp
Dwemermatron.esp
S_L_U_T_S.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp
zDarkArena.esp
GemstoneMaidensStandalone.esp
HornyCreatures.esp
DeadlyMutilation.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
DovahkiinFollower.esp
[SunJeong] Hezimao.esp
HumanoidVampires.esp
Brows.esp
IdiotElfFollowerSE.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Ikumi Nakamura.esp
pchsImmersivePlugs.esp
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
Judgment Wenches.esp
Kalena Rios.esp
NewKara.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SolitudeNPC.esp
Whiterun2.esp
SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
TMHousecarls.esp
MBWSFollowersReplacer.esp
mcgDwarvenDeviousCuirass.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Megumin.esp
Merchant Injector.esp
NewmillerPiercings2.esp
NewmillerPiercings3.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp
Milker Movil Armor.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
Nier Automata.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
pahe-tdf-patch.esp
PAN_Carmilla.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
UD_Serana.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RicherMerchants.esp
HVBodyPaints.esp
Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SeranaDNP.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
Beastess Forsworn.esp
Immersive Arousal.esp
TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SlaveTats.esp
KomAnimObjectsSBT.esp
Spartan Bard Outfit CBBE.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
Type2B_Follower.esp
TypeD18_Follower.esp
VeronicaFollower.esp
matedrestedwolf.esp
WetFunction.esp
Womanized Obis with Wenches.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
FNIS.esp
With Plug (armor).esp
With Plug (no armor).esp
Pirhelios.esp
CammyFollower.esp
LauranaTheFallenPrincess.esp
[SunJeong] Op Qinglang.esp
Poet.esp
_Imokko.esp
Elisabeth.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
blackreachrailroadnew.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Yang Xiao Long.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Lupusregina.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Albedo.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
SaveTheBrotherhood.esp
DBCO_ALL_IN_ONE.esp
kinkyKitty.esp
MannequinChicks.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Arche (Overlord).esp
Jinxxed Followers - Cattleya.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Clementine.esp
DMCinderFollower.esp
FNISspells.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Mei-Ling.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Shalltear Bloodfallen.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Ureirika and Kuuderika Twins.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Branwen.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Tifa Lockhart.esp
Aethernautics.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsDB.esp
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
Kangmina.esp
pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp
Shura.esp
Jinxxed Followers - Gine (Dragon Ball).esp
HG_Eilonwy.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsITW.esp
SkyrimChainBeastsPH.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Curse of the Dragonborn - SC-MT.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
Serana Dialogue Edit.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
ImmerSlave.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
XPMSE.esp

 

what is that Nier Automata mod in the list? is it a follower? I've been trying to find a 2B follower mod compatible with Special Edition for weeks, could you please post a link to download that mod? the search has driven me to the edge of madness.

[donttouchmethere]

SPOILERS! @SparrowR use SPOILERS!

Or at least delete too many entries ?

Why are those spoilers all open anyways?

 

In other news:

SCB is a BEAST of a mod.

Unbelievable what I just saw ?

Reminds me on the Jurassic Park scene

(not a bit exaggerated at all):

 

Why, oh why, didn't I clicked on that mine earlier.

(okey, maybe touching that mine is a bit like shooting an arrow in the knee, in the own knee)

 

It just fucking works!

Spoiler

nearly killed it...

...and it tries to hide behind a tree!

That was the time I also found out that I had no weapon anymore o.o

 

...but now it was really pissed:

 

First Person!

 

 

 

 

 

and after a while in a pillory:

Spoiler

 

Everything is perfect!

The chains, the gag, the creatures, the search for a zaz furniture and the punishment time

Also the NPC support worked like a charm

 

I recommend a dense grass mod so the small chain beast will be detected too late! ;D

And searching a chain beast chest during night with a dense grass mod is pretty impossible!

I can hear DEC working already to exploit the situation.

At least Lauras shop has a fire to fight off frostfall ?

 

Fucking amazing!

Never thought that's even possible ?

And I was happy already with the small beasts and walking chains lol

 

*cough*

how do I escape now?

(yes I clicked on those left over chains in my inventory ?)

[MTB]

On 8/29/2019 at 1:43 AM, SparrowR said:

what is that Nier Automata mod in the list? is it a follower? I've been trying to find a 2B follower mod compatible with Special Edition for weeks, could you please post a link to download that mod? the search has driven me to the edge of madness.

I think this is an armor mod:

(Used to be an sse version on nexus as well but seems to have been deleted now.)

 

[MTB]

2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

*cough*

how do I escape now?

(yes I clicked on those left over chains in my inventory ?)

Hmmm unequip? Unless your PC is having to much fun and won't let you

(the mod won't stop you if you equipped them yourself.)

 

On 8/24/2019 at 11:47 PM, Bonding1005 said:

Well, I got it working by deactivating a bunch of mods, then reactivating them in small numbers. Still not sure what was causing the issue as I have not reactivated all of the mods. Here is a list of what is still deactivated in case it helps someone...

- Creature framework

- Fnis creature pack

- A bunch of old clothing/armor mods (Merta, Sotteta, Gwelda, google it) that need "HDT high heel beta"

- HDT high heel beta

- Simple slavery plus with the "without devious framework" patch

Come to think of it, it might just be a load order problem, the mod is now a lot earlier in my load order than before.

 

Aaaanyway. I learned about the chain beasts, got captured, put into some ZAZ things, got free, and are to "contemplate" about the experience. No clue how to continue, will it update by itself or do I have to do something?

 

To contemplate:

Spoiler

Sleep on it. (Any uninterrupted sleep should update the quest.)

 

On 8/26/2019 at 10:35 PM, badbat111 said:

if there the things floating on chains then yes there the ones im on about i thought they was called eggs XD for some reason there not showing up also Pinepeak Cavern has a new inhabitant with some tricks up his sleeve.  i go there but it only has 2 bears 1 outside and 1 inside

Sounds like the integration plugin is not activated.  Check if SkyrimChainBeastsIntegration.esp is installed and activated. (Quick check: If active the `plugin' page of the MCM should have options to add beast to different leveled lists.)

 

The historians say that during the oblivion crisis they were indeed known as eggs and mines marked and controlled destination areas with punishment furniture.

There have different theories about the source of confusion of these terms in later years.

(Personally I think its because I'd already gone and called them mines all over the place so did not want to go and change it.)

 

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

2 hours ago, MTB said:

Hmmm unequip? Unless your PC is having to much fun and won't let you

(the mod won't stop you if you equipped them yourself.)

Yes she did like those chains, zaz "equipment" has still some special feeling attached to it.

Must be the gag sound and facial expression.

 

But, not to worry!

Some really friendly and helpful Khajiit came to the rescue, thx to DEC.

Flawless transfer from SCB => Pillory => Escape => DEC (while searching the chest in that damn northern grass) => SD+ => SDpatches

+ bonus: harder SD+ enslavement, because of stolen inventory ?

(I mean that SCB chest with the player equipment is sooo close and yet so far, there is still hope tho, just need to...)

 

Spoiler

 

 

[badbat111]

19 hours ago, MTB said:

Hmmm unequip? Unless your PC is having to much fun and won't let you

(the mod won't stop you if you equipped them yourself.)

 

 

To contemplate:

  Reveal hidden contents

Sleep on it. (Any uninterrupted sleep should update the quest.)

 

Sounds like the integration plugin is not activated.  Check if SkyrimChainBeastsIntegration.esp is installed and activated. (Quick check: If active the `plugin' page of the MCM should have options to add beast to different leveled lists.)

 

The historians say that during the oblivion crisis they were indeed known as eggs and mines marked and controlled destination areas with punishment furniture.

There have different theories about the source of confusion of these terms in later years.

(Personally I think its because I'd already gone and called them mines all over the place so did not want to go and change it.)

 

 

 

intergration is default ? i thought that was another mod requierment thing like realistic needsand so on XD ill try that out leter thanks

[badbat111]

i have a idea a mount that can be summoned to use as a horse you could use the gemmed chainbeast for it maybe have the gem vibrate when the mount is going to fast ?

[HellRaiserPotato12]

Hello everybody!

 

I really love this mod, but i am stuck on the beauty and the chainbeast quest. I have both of the spells (weaken mine, and destroy mine). I have destroyed the mines but the quest doesn't update. Can any one help me with that? 

[Goddess_moka]

On 8/3/2019 at 6:31 AM, Goddess_moka said:

still need help by the way.... sorry if i am being a little impatient

 

On 7/29/2019 at 10:42 PM, Goddess_moka said:

no it doesn't cost any stamina or if it does its so small that it doesn't even show up. i have done it on new game and existing ones had the same things happen. female character but have set it so that way it will attack all viable and i am guessing sse is 'skyrim special edition'? i am using the normal pc version with all dlc.. i also got the optional files that add more za furniture or how ever you say that mod. as well as the one that adds mines in the other areas from DLC. currently i just have the mod suspended so that way i can still play the game for the time being.

 

On 7/28/2019 at 8:56 AM, Goddess_moka said:

so i have a problem. so the beasts all exist and hell the dogs can even latch onto me but then they either vanish off of me and go through it all again, making many strong boxes, or (only for me and not npcs) will grab onto me but nothing will happen after that. i can crawl around but nothing else happens. 
for bigger ones like spiders and mammoths the spiders will just vanish and be replaced by a dog, the mammoths will make me get stuck in the air where i am supposed to be held or above it and just never move and be glitched in the air. please help me. the npcs just simply can't be caught by the dogs and the mammoths will do the same thing to the npcs as they do to me. i can see the harness and stuff appear on them for a moment before it vanishes off.
i use vortex by the way.

Still need help... I really am at a loss for what to do...

[MTB]

On 9/2/2019 at 11:46 PM, badbat111 said:

i have a idea a mount that can be summoned to use as a horse you could use the gemmed chainbeast for it maybe have the gem vibrate when the mount is going to fast ?

Adding a summoned gemmed chainbeast is easy enough but there is already something similar to this:

Spoiler

Kill a chain spider, loot the spell book, learn it, cast it with a chain spider corpse nearby.

Have added doing something similar with other beasts to the potential extensions but not sure I'll add it.

Making the gem vibrate...not sure about that one - would at least be a lot more work so not likely to happen quickly.

 

 

On 9/5/2019 at 11:50 AM, HellRaiserPotato12 said:

Hello everybody!

 

I really love this mod, but i am stuck on the beauty and the chainbeast quest. I have both of the spells (weaken mine, and destroy mine). I have destroyed the mines but the quest doesn't update. Can any one help me with that? 

Hmm...though I'd fixed that one.  If you destroyed all the marked mines the objective should complete and the log message should change. (There is, however, no further actions to take in the current version.)

Spoiler

In working version the quest should actually complete at this point and give you a small reward. 

I'm also thinking of some follow-ups but those are early phase, not sure if/when I'll get to those.

 

On 9/5/2019 at 3:05 PM, Goddess_moka said:

 

 

Still need help... I really am at a loss for what to do...

As I have no idea what is causing the issues you were having I was not able to give much specific advice.

I did release an update in which I tried to add fixes and improve robustness as well as testing spells to help determine what does and what does not work.

Did you try this latest version? (be sure to use a clean save or test with new game...)

Also: test outdoors (e.g. in Riverwood should be a good place for first tests) to ensure the beasts will be able to find a destination.

 

 

[Siudhne]

Someone else having problems with chain beasts dealing no stamina damage at all? I cranked up the bite damage to high and reduced my stamina regeneration, to no avail, they literally deal no damage. The only way to trigger devices/capture is to exhaust stamina on my own and then get attacked.

(Tried only chain beast mines so far, the one in whiterun and at the blue palace)

[donttouchmethere]

In addition to what Siudhne said, could you give your creations a bit more hp or armor?

I have the stamina damage set to max damage always and one SBC is good to get the whole party of overpowered followers naked.

But I can win ranged (if  I see them early enough).

So you could make them more durable or faster. Guess faster would be most evil.

Those spiders are crazy btw, just awesome, they lured around some rocks, scary!

[donttouchmethere]

16 minutes ago, Siudhne said:

Someone else having problems with chain beasts dealing no stamina damage at all? I cranked up the bite damage to high and reduced my stamina regeneration, to no avail, they literally deal no damage. The only way to trigger devices/capture is to exhaust stamina on my own and then get attacked.

(Tried only chain beast mines so far, the one in whiterun and at the blue palace)

You could install SLS,

On my setup it gives female Skyrim inhabitants a malus of 50 on hp/sp/mp (or even more if you want to)

If you add Apropos2 damage, cumencumbered, a needs mod, frostfall, maybe estrus, STA to the mix you, are happy if you only need to jog from breezehome to the bannered mare ^^

(if that's not enough add DT2 with no DD training degeneration ?)

[Garfieldcat]

2 hours ago, Siudhne said:

Someone else having problems with chain beasts dealing no stamina damage at all? I cranked up the bite damage to high and reduced my stamina regeneration, to no avail, they literally deal no damage. The only way to trigger devices/capture is to exhaust stamina on my own and then get attacked.

(Tried only chain beast mines so far, the one in whiterun and at the blue palace)

Playing a leather wearing rogue type of character I have the same issue.
Although! Changing the damage to max had helped.

[donttouchmethere]

Does that mean we all vote for more stamina damage?

Or more spawns at a the same time? (for the wild SBC)

Every chain beast should have a wingman ⛓️?️

[MTB]

20 hours ago, Siudhne said:

Someone else having problems with chain beasts dealing no stamina damage at all? I cranked up the bite damage to high and reduced my stamina regeneration, to no avail, they literally deal no damage. The only way to trigger devices/capture is to exhaust stamina on my own and then get attacked.

(Tried only chain beast mines so far, the one in whiterun and at the blue palace)

The stamina damage works as a poison.  If you have poison resistance it may not do any damage.  Otherwise I don't know...

(I've set the `ignore resistance' in the working version - still need to test if that works as expected.)

 

20 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

So you could make them more durable or faster. Guess faster would be most evil.

 

Faster would likely make the running animations look off.  More durable is possible, but perhaps higher armor rating makes most sense.

 

17 hours ago, Garfieldcat said:

Playing a leather wearing rogue type of character I have the same issue.
Although! Changing the damage to max had helped.

 

17 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

Does that mean we all vote for more stamina damage?

Or more spawns at a the same time? (for the wild SBC)

Every chain beast should have a wingman ⛓️?️

 

I've changed the stamina damage and threshold to be more configurable. (To be tested).

It uses existing spawns (only adds beasts as spawn options), so how many there will be depends on the existing spawn spots.

 

[donttouchmethere]

29 minutes ago, MTB said:

Faster would likely make the running animations look off.  More durable is possible, but perhaps higher armor rating makes most sense.

sounds good,

don't have skeletons some kind of armor bonus against arrows?

walking chains could be nearly immune to ranged attacks, unless its magic or a plasma gun

 

31 minutes ago, MTB said:

I've changed the stamina damage and threshold to be more configurable. (To be tested).

purrrfect!

I love to see my party suffer >D

 

31 minutes ago, MTB said:

It uses existing spawns (only adds beasts as spawn options), so how many there will be depends on the existing spawn spots.

At lvl 20+ I see them spawn in pairs.

Guess that means if SIC is installed I give vanilla spawn a higher % related to SIC spawns

 

ürghs, spiders ?

Spoiler

 

 

[HexBolt8]

3 hours ago, MTB said:

More durable is possible, but perhaps higher armor rating makes most sense.

 

2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

don't have skeletons some kind of armor bonus against arrows?

walking chains could be nearly immune to ranged attacks, unless its magic or a plasma gun

 

I thought skeletons were resistant to arrows too, but I looked and couldn't find anything that actually indicates that they are.  Perhaps that was from another game.  

 

It should be possible to make chain beasts selectively tougher against arrows.  Apply a hidden perk to the player to halve damage dealt if the combat target is a chain beast and the player is wielding a bow.   I think that's better than toughening them up across the board, since melee fighters have to contend with the stamina attacks.  There should be some advantage to at least partly offset the risk of melee combat. 

 

And if they aren't already, I'd think that chain beasts should be immune to bleeding, poison, and paralysis. 

[Siudhne]

Poison resistance was a good call (got 90%), but after removing all my resistances and stamina regen I can conclude: They really deal no stamina damage. Going to dig into my mods to find out if something is conflicting.

 

@Garfield/donttouchmethere: No, the chain beast damage is set to max, I've reduced my stamina regen and stamina max quite a lot below vanilla values with SkyTweak and I'm not in light armor either. They deal no stamina damage at all it seems, not just a miniscule amount that gets regenerated immediately.

 

Regarding more durable chainbeasts: MCM configurable would be nice, as they seem rather durable to me already.

 

Edit: Disabling pretty much all other mods has no effect, but starting a new game does not suffer from that problem. Must be something specific to that game, some perk or particular setting. If I find something, I'll let you know.

[Garfieldcat]

1 hour ago, Siudhne said:

Poison resistance was a good call (got 90%), but after removing all my resistances and stamina regen I can conclude: They really deal no stamina damage. Going to dig into my mods to find out if something is conflicting.

 

@Garfield/donttouchmethere: No, the chain beast damage is set to max, I've reduced my stamina regen and stamina max quite a lot below vanilla values with SkyTweak and I'm not in light armor either. They deal no stamina damage at all it seems, not just a miniscule amount that gets regenerated immediately.

 

Regarding more durable chainbeasts: MCM configurable would be nice, as they seem rather durable to me already.

 

Edit: Disabling pretty much all other mods has no effect, but starting a new game does not suffer from that problem. Must be something specific to that game, some perk or particular setting. If I find something, I'll let you know.

I had no idea that the beast attacks act as poison.
Since that is the case, there are few factors to take into consideration:
 

certain items you are wearing might have poison resistance;

there is a perk in alchemy that grants poison immunity (Snakeblood);
your race can provide the immunity (I think Redguards);
and my bet would be being a vampire - they get 100% immunity if I remember correctly and I myself end up being one pretty much constantly as I always get infected after fighting vamps and forgetting to cleanse it at an altar.

Maybe it's one of the above  

 

[donttouchmethere]

9 hours ago, MTB said:

The stamina damage works as a poison.  If you have poison resistance it may not do any damage.

THAT would explain why my followers get often hit harder than my PC (high poison/disease resistance until getting robbed of equipment)

Looks like your SBCs need a "make naked on hit" spell xD

 

6 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I thought skeletons were resistant to arrows too, but I looked and couldn't find anything that actually indicates that they are.  Perhaps that was from another game. 

It seems to vary a lot from LO to LO in my games.

I think I had a combat mod installed that made them nearly immune to arrows and bolts (my main weapon, that was an ugly surprise, they are normally super squishy)

Now if only I could remember what mod that was.

 

6 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I think that's better than toughening them up across the board, since melee fighters have to contend with the stamina attacks.

Fair enough, going into close combat was certain defeat for my squishy elf early in game before getting better equipment.

Later (lvl20-30) with a bigger party they worked best during "surprise" attacks

 

4 hours ago, Siudhne said:

Edit: Disabling pretty much all other mods has no effect, but starting a new game does not suffer from that problem. Must be something specific to that game, some perk or particular setting. If I find something, I'll let you know.

cool, because I saw that "no effect on stamina" on my PC too at lvl 30, but than again it had more poison resist.

Other than that, maybe LO has an effect if something overwrites the poison attack of chain beasts?

[Siudhne]

12 hours ago, Garfieldcat said:

certain items you are wearing might have poison resistance;

there is a perk in alchemy that grants poison immunity (Snakeblood);
your race can provide the immunity (I think Redguards);
and my bet would be being a vampire - they get 100% immunity if I remember correctly and I myself end up being one pretty much constantly as I always get infected after fighting vamps and forgetting to cleanse it at an altar.

Maybe it's one of the above  

 

Thanks for the suggestions, will check them. Or maybe I just do the reverse test and see if, just in case, the character still gets poison damage from, you know, poison weapons.

9 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

cool, because I saw that "no effect on stamina" on my PC too at lvl 30, but than again it had more poison resist.

Other than that, maybe LO has an effect if something overwrites the poison attack of chain beasts?

LO?

[Siudhne]

New discovery: It depends on the players level. If I set my level to 43, I get stamina damage over time after being hit by a chain beast. Once I reach level 44, I don't get any stamina damage at all. Curious, could it be some level-based calculation on your side?

[Jeffny]

Hello

I Defeat a chain spider and learn the spell...

I raise the spider but after a Few second, the ride stop and i can reloot the spider

Re cast the spell and 3-4 sec later, same.....

 

Can you install CB mines in a désert zone ( Like original mode in a lifeless zone)?

 

Nice mod