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2 hours ago, Sevatt said:

On a side note, do mouths open for you in your game during anims?

Well, more like on my knees than on my side, but yes. :classic_biggrin:

2 hours ago, Sevatt said:

Or are you saying Expressionator would address that as well in addition to the random breakage? Thank you! ❤️

Expressionator offers 5 levels each of 6 or 7 expressions- 20%, 40%, 60%, 80% and 100% of Happy, Sad, Puzzled, etc. plus RESET and CLEAR options. I don't recall whether or not Combat Shout is one of them (that's the expression used for BJs) because I've never had to resort to Expressionator for that- my mouth flies open at the drop of a trou.

Posted
12 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

LOL- I've been struggling for 10 days to get a playable SSE again. Finally just blew up my entire SSE folder (*sob* my beautiful characters!) and started over with a bone-stock installation. Switched from NMM to Vortex along the way and now up to about half the mods I had... and holding.

WB!

Posted
3 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

Well, more like on my knees than on my side, but yes. :classic_biggrin:

... because I've never had to resort to Expressionator for that- my mouth flies open at the drop of a trou.

LOL! Well, crap... odd, since I've never even seen that in any of my games since I started modding and installed SL. Then again I've always played as a straight male dovahkiin, so maybe that's the difference... I'd rather just fix it without having to resort to additional mods if it's something that should inherently work on it's own. Now it's going to bug the living crap out of me >.<. Thanks again!

Posted
10 hours ago, Sevatt said:

LOL! Well, crap... odd, since I've never even seen that in any of my games since I started modding and installed SL. Then again I've always played as a straight male dovahkiin, so maybe that's the difference... I'd rather just fix it without having to resort to additional mods if it's something that should inherently work on it's own. Now it's going to bug the living crap out of me >.<. Thanks again!

Expressionator is great for screenshots and/or videos- for example, I used it to do the expression change at 2:20 in this spoof video I made for Sam The Cruel of Outlaws & Revolutionaries:

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

Expressionator is great for screenshots and/or videos- for example, I used it to do the expression change at 2:20 in this spoof video I made for Sam The Cruel of Outlaws & Revolutionaries:

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Some day I hope all mods will not clip. So many of my meshes look awful in game but awesome in Bodyslide. It just makes me hot blooded.

Posted
26 minutes ago, pburnt said:

Some day I hope all mods will not clip. So many of my meshes look awful in game but awesome in Bodyslide. It just makes me hot blooded.

@Gromilla says our wigs should collide with our bodies "by default" without having to add any invisible collision shapes to our body meshes if we just disable the garbage in the wig xml's that is preventing them from colliding. :classic_blink:

 

I can't wait to find out specifically how to do that because it is driving me crazy watching my pony tail settle into my back, even protruding out the front of my chest when I sneak. :classic_angry:

Posted
2 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

@Gromilla says our wigs should collide with our bodies "by default" without having to add any invisible collision shapes to our body meshes if we just disable the garbage in the wig xml's that is preventing them from colliding. :classic_blink:

 

I can't wait to find out specifically how to do that because it is driving me crazy watching my pony tail settle into my back, even protruding out the front of my chest when I sneak. :classic_angry:

Send me the wig nif and xml files, I'll help fix it.

Posted

I'm having a issue with the "play lip sync animation" setting. After any moan animation completes instead of the mouth closing it will switch to being wide open. Way wider the the moan its self opened it. I don't have the "apply facial expressions" option selected, but I did notice when I tested them together that it partially fixes the issue. The wide open mouth glitch still happens, but with mfg facial expressions enabled it will revert back to having a closed mouth half a second later. It's not a fix but a bit of a workaround. Any ideas how I could fix this other then simply disabling lip sync all together? 

Posted
4 minutes ago, JamesParker said:

I'm having a issue with the "play lip sync animation" setting. After any moan animation completes instead of the mouth closing it will switch to being wide open. Way wider the the moan its self opened it. I don't have the "apply facial expressions" option selected, but I did notice when I tested them together that it partially fixes the issue. The wide open mouth glitch still happens, but with mfg facial expressions enabled it will revert back to having a closed mouth half a second later. It's not a fix but a bit of a workaround. Any ideas how I could fix this other then simply disabling lip sync all together? 

Dammit, Jim! (sorry, couldn't resist the Star Trek reference ?). I have exactly that issue as well, but was able to get it mostly resolved (as well as the lockjaw during BJ anims) with Female Facial Animation as @Beren mentioned (Thank you!!). I still get a "flicker," or rapid, residual flapping of the lower half of the mouth opening/closing after some animations. This may be what you're describing.

 

It's always been sporadic, but happens far less now. It's tolerable, at least. I can't replicate it reliably, but it's easily resolved by changing cells if it doesn't resolve itself within a few seconds or so on it's own. Nor have I noticed lip sync full on stopping while witnessing convos between other NPCs as well after an hour or two of game play.

 

My followers do have a nicer smile now, much like Vyx's toon in her vid at 2:20 when you speak with them; definite upgrade. I also noticed my followers don't have the "duck lip" expression that looked more like they were straining to keep a "turtlehead from peaking out," than being in ecstasy. Another nice upgrade.

 

Not sure about disabling the lip sync, though. This may be a good solution in the interim of finding out how to disable lip syncing altogether if it's setting off your OCD like it did mine lol ?

Posted
28 minutes ago, Sevatt said:

Dammit, Jim! (sorry, couldn't resist the Star Trek reference ?). I have exactly that issue as well, but was able to get it mostly resolved (as well as the lockjaw during BJ anims) with Female Facial Animation as @Beren mentioned (Thank you!!). I still get a "flicker," or rapid, residual flapping of the lower half of the mouth opening/closing after some animations. This may be what you're describing.

 

It's always been sporadic, but happens far less now. It's tolerable, at least. I can't replicate it reliably, but it's easily resolved by changing cells if it doesn't resolve itself within a few seconds or so on it's own. Nor have I noticed lip sync full on stopping while witnessing convos between other NPCs as well after an hour or two of game play.

 

My followers do have a nicer smile now, much like Vyx's toon in her vid at 2:20 when you speak with them; definite upgrade. I also noticed my followers don't have the "duck lip" expression that looked more like they were straining to keep a "turtlehead from peaking out," than being in ecstasy. Another nice upgrade.

 

Not sure about disabling the lip sync, though. This may be a good solution in the interim of finding out how to disable lip syncing altogether if it's setting off your OCD like it did mine lol ?

Thank you very much for trying to help. I think we are having slightly different issues however. I have no issues with the mouth not opening during BJ animations or the mouth staying open after the animation is done. The issue I am having is during animation its self. If I have "Play lip sync animations" enabled in Sexlab's MCM the Mouth will open wider after a moan instead of closing.  Or in other words all my issues are during the animation. For whatever reason LIP sync resets to a wide open mouth instead of closed on after a moan is over. I do Have Female Facial animation installed, but it has had no impact on this issue. Now I know I could just disable "Play lip Sync animations" in the MCM, and it would fix the problem, but I like lip sync. Blank unmoving faces during sex are a little creepy.

Posted
1 hour ago, JamesParker said:

Thank you very much for trying to help. I think we are having slightly different issues however. I have no issues with the mouth not opening during BJ animations or the mouth staying open after the animation is done. The issue I am having is during animation its self. If I have "Play lip sync animations" enabled in Sexlab's MCM the Mouth will open wider after a moan instead of closing.  Or in other words all my issues are during the animation. For whatever reason LIP sync resets to a wide open mouth instead of closed on after a moan is over. I do Have Female Facial animation installed, but it has had no impact on this issue. Now I know I could just disable "Play lip Sync animations" in the MCM, and it would fix the problem, but I like lip sync. Blank unmoving faces during sex are a little creepy.

Ah, well, crappola. My apologies, I misunderstood. I have/had this exact same issue for the PC and NPC when using that setting as well; it's like the jaw drops open farther then staying open until the next moan resets it. So I started using the Enable Facial Expressions option (since it's an either/or option to Lip Sync) to address the "blank stare" during anims.

 

On that note, which you probably know this already but in case you don't, you can set the expressions and the strength of each expression per stage with sliders in the expressions editor tab. If you don't want to use the "Happy," Sad," etc presets, there's quite a few options there for fine tuning by stage, all the way from a subtle "ah" in stage 1, to eyes rolling in the back of the head in ecstasy by stage 4. It just depends on how detailed you want to get with the expressions.

 

It does resolve the "blank stare" during anims with SLs inherent settings, though I know it doesn't directly address the lip sync issue. You can always tinker with it if you haven't already and switch back if it's not to your taste. Hopefully a wizard will chime in with a better resolution for that if there is one.

Posted
34 minutes ago, Sevatt said:

Ah, well, crappola. My apologies, I misunderstood. I have/had this exact same issue for the PC and NPC when using that setting as well; it's like the jaw drops open farther then staying open until the next moan resets it. So I started using the Enable Facial Expressions option (since it's an either/or option to Lip Sync) to address the "blank stare" during anims.

 

On that note, which you probably know this already but in case you don't, you can set the expressions and the strength of each expression per stage with sliders in the expressions editor tab. If you don't want to use the "Happy," Sad," etc presets, there's quite a few options there for fine tuning by stage, all the way from a subtle "ah" in stage 1, to eyes rolling in the back of the head in ecstasy by stage 4. It just depends on how detailed you want to get with the expressions.

 

It does resolve the "blank stare" during anims with SLs inherent settings, though I know it doesn't directly address the lip sync issue. You can always tinker with it if you haven't already and switch back if it's not to your taste. Hopefully a wizard will chime in with a better resolution for that if there is one.

Yeah I think I'll switch over to enable facial expressions for now. It will take a little getting use to, but it's better then nothing until I find out whats wrong with lip sync. 

Posted

SexLab Light SE or SexLab Framework SE which one has more/better depended mods? I assume SexLab Frameworks SE is superior to SexLab Light SE? Geeze how I wish those pearls for Oldrim could be make compatible with SE. 

Posted
46 minutes ago, Nepro said:

SexLab Light SE or SexLab Framework SE which one has more/better depended mods? I assume SexLab Frameworks SE is superior to SexLab Light SE? Geeze how I wish those pearls for Oldrim could be make compatible with SE. 

SexLab Light was a stopgap for Skyrim SE before SKSE64 was a thing.  I don't think it has been actively developed (or developed for) since SKSE64 came out.  Stick with SexLab SE for the best compatibility with other available SE mods.

Posted
1 hour ago, PadrePedro12 said:

How do i install this new Sexlab?

Whatever do you mean? Download the zip file (full installation if you haven't installed any old version or the update only if you have older versions) and then drag it into your mod manager to get it activated from there. You could do a manual installation which if I'm not mistaken is to extract the file into your Skyrim game directory, but I recommend using a mod manager because that way you can deactivate it and reinstall it whenever you please, it's more manageable that way.

Posted
On 1/20/2019 at 5:56 AM, Vyxenne said:

Switched from NMM to Vortex along the way

This reminds me, I tried to do that on 2 separate occasions but it didn't work. My second time I knew exactly what to do but Vortex popped an error with some of the mods which I didn't get around to solving. Now, my mod list is too long to do that again, I'm too bored to reinstall everything and since I use FOMOD for Fallout New Vegas and OBMM for Oblivion, NMM is used only for Skyrim SE so I guess I'll keep it. If I ever buy Fallout 4 which I'm considering, maybe I'll use Vortex for that alone, everything else is just too much of a hassle.

Posted
On 1/1/2019 at 12:10 PM, Ashal said:

So... I obviously completely failed in my plans to get 1.63 done before the end of the year ?

 

Honestly tried... but life is a complicated puzzle, dealing with personal issues. And blah blah blah blah

 

Bottom line is don't let me get to February without an update here. PM me to get this shit done as much as you'd like/can. Spam me with @ notifications either in this thread or in Discord about getting it done. Just don't let me forget that this update is long overdue... Thanks.

Quote this post whenever it gets behind a page or two to keep it fresh...

Didn't want to be that guy, but here we go ;)

Sooooo how's progress?

And remember take your time

Posted
4 hours ago, JimKhan said:

Whatever do you mean? Download the zip file (full installation if you haven't installed any old version or the update only if you have older versions) and then drag it into your mod manager to get it activated from there. You could do a manual installation which if I'm not mistaken is to extract the file into your Skyrim game directory, but I recommend using a mod manager because that way you can deactivate it and reinstall it whenever you please, it's more manageable that way.

I installed the mod. Do older mods for LITE like MatchMaker and Follow me for Sex work with this version? 

When i activated it the game crashed before the sex scene started.
Do i need other files or other mods?

Posted
23 minutes ago, PadrePedro12 said:

I installed the mod. Do older mods for LITE like MatchMaker and Follow me for Sex work with this version? 

When i activated it the game crashed before the sex scene started.
Do i need other files or other mods?

No, if you check back into the thread, it is clearly stated that mods designed for the lite version don't work with this, you will have to look for appropriate mods. As for MatchMaker, there is no SE version for it because the Oldrim version works fine so you will have to get that one. I don't know about follow me for sex because I never used it but you should check the Conversion Tracking post, look for it there.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-sse-conversion-tracking-jan-18-2691/

Edit: since we got into the matter, I checked it and it is on the list as updated and properly functioning so you're good to go.

Posted
13 hours ago, JimKhan said:

No, if you check back into the thread, it is clearly stated that mods designed for the lite version don't work with this, you will have to look for appropriate mods. As for MatchMaker, there is no SE version for it because the Oldrim version works fine so you will have to get that one. I don't know about follow me for sex because I never used it but you should check the Conversion Tracking post, look for it there.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/94228-sse-conversion-tracking-jan-18-2691/

Edit: since we got into the matter, I checked it and it is on the list as updated and properly functioning so you're good to go.

Thanky you for all your help by the way, but I still need some help setting up the mod.
Can you make a small tutorial of the install order?
I think i have all the correct mods but im not sure about some, for example:
- Does Tempered Skins for females mess with XP32 Max Skeleton?

- Do I have to install the Bijin packs and the Bijin bodymeshes for each pack? Does it interfere with the building of the body itself?

- What mods do you install? Are there some I should avoid?

Thanks for your help!

Posted
2 hours ago, PadrePedro12 said:

Thanky you for all your help by the way, but I still need some help setting up the mod.
Can you make a small tutorial of the install order?
I think i have all the correct mods but im not sure about some, for example:
- Does Tempered Skins for females mess with XP32 Max Skeleton?

- Do I have to install the Bijin packs and the Bijin bodymeshes for each pack? Does it interfere with the building of the body itself?

- What mods do you install? Are there some I should avoid?

Thanks for your help!

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by install order, mods can be installed in any order you want, it's the load order that matters. Load order is the order with which the mods are loaded into the game, if a mod is loaded after another then it overwrites it, that's what you decide when you choose which mod overwrites which.

 

I don't use Tempered skins for females, I use CBBE as a female body replacer and it works fine so I don't know if it interferes with XP32. If Tempered skins affects the skeleton then you will have to choose whether it is loaded after XP32 or before or else it won't matter.

 

As for the Bijin packs, I usually installed everything and chose to overwrite any mesh mods I already had so that they are activated instead.

 

Lastly, get a mod manager like Nexus Mod Manager or Vortex if you don't have one but I can't help with Vortex because I have little experience with it. But since we mentioned load order, get LOOT, it will sort load orders for you, you just need to choose mods that overwrite each other.

 

You asked any mods to avoid, probably those that conflict with what you already have so check mod pages for conflicts always. Also avoid those that don't function well, the Cenversion Tracking page details that issue. As for the mods I use, I don't mind showing you but I doubt it will help.

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