Japanese Modders breakthroughs in animation/sex mods

[Mirrorimage]

I am afraid that the keys do not work for me either. However, I have tried everything that I can think of... Here is my load order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

AOM.esm (The Art of Magicka)

MiniLovers Idles.esm

MiniLovers Sound.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

killthemgenerals.esp

skyui.esp

descaleduniques.esp

portal2mod.esp

listernersarmorset.esp

ShoutCD.esp

Balanced_Magic_BETA_2_0.esp

99.esp (raises maximum pickpocket chance from 90% to 99%)

HighResTexturePackFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

ConvertibleArchmageRobes.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

AOM.esp

skyrim performance mod.esp

MiniLovers.esp

MiniLoversSoundSpell.esp

MiniLoversAlternative.esp

 

 

 

A few mods have been installed through Steam Workshop, the rest through Nexus Mod Manager.

 

I have also tried disabling all mods (including Dawnguard), making a clean save, then reinstalling Mini Lovers and using only Mini Lovers, no other mods. This still did not fix my problem. No matter if I tap the G key, hold it for several seconds (even up to half a minute), or rapidly press it, nothing causes my character to switch positions.

 

I even tried changing system locale to see if it had anything to do with language or keyboard settings (keyboard has always been US / International). I also did not map any game functions to any of the keys that Mini Lovers uses.

 

I use SKSE 1.5.11 and FNIS 3.1.1. I have used GenerateFNISforUsers.exe before and after installation of Mini Lovers. One thing does seem odd to me. Before Mini Lovers installation, 728 animations by 2 mods were included. After installation of Mini Lovers, it is still 728 animations by 2 mods. Should this number not go up?

 

Long story short, does anyone have any other ideas why the Mini Lovers keys don't work for me?

[algarvian2001]

Did you install SKSE manually or through a manager?

[Mirrorimage]

Did you install SKSE manually or through a manager?

 

I installed SKSE manually. I also ran BOSS just now, didn't fix my problem either. I removed ScriptDragon (I had that for another mod that I used to have) and that also had no effect.

[sethwarner08]

ok..i hate doing this as solving things on my own is a better way to learn but...im having a problem with the NPCs... everything seems to work like its meant to...and ive had nearly no problems with this set of mods ..im using current SKSE' date=' SKYRIM, FNIS, ive got the posted reccomeded load order set up...now my issue is...the NPCs while doing the various acts and positions start bouncing/jumping...no not as part of the act lol... (position buttons even work for me)...i thought id read something about this issue on this thread before id made up my mind to try these but i cant seem to find it now...is it something to do with NPC & PC size diff?...for the record im playing a nord fem PC...the NPC in question is an argonian...(shes kinky like that ;-) ...)

[/quote']

 

Well this is a biproduct of an experimental feature. In fact this happens when PCs are engaged with an NPC as well at times. In my experience this happens the most when the couple isn't in the ideal position, changing the speed may solve this at times. Ive had bouncing occur when my PC's in the act and then when i drag them both to a better smooter location it resolves the issue.

 

Also know that NPCs may drag the victim NPC during the act and attempt to leave the room, because they're following their AI package, the MLA script apparently doesn't force them to halt all other activities while engaging in the act.

 

Something Humurous: While trying this out, i had an NPC raping a victim in a tavern, with Lissette singing "Dragonborn Comes" in the background, all of a sudden the victim NPC stands up and begins to clap, following her standard AI package (Sandbox) while the rapist NPC continues the thrusting, twas a truly hillarious sight. Just goes to show that NPC AI packages conflict with the AI in the MLA script and hence i believe the best way to do this is to have companions do the raping/ receiving.

 

it does seem to be tied to collision detec... i was playing around with the position keys and suddenly my argonian partner pops up about a foot and a half and continues "smoothly" humping my nord girls knees...i mean im sure argonians have all kinds of unusual kinks and fetishes but seriously?....knee humping?...lol...back to topic...speed dosent effect the jumping at all for me...nor does terrain it seems...ive tried "gettin down" in a lot of different places and still the damn jumping...hhmmm...could i have found that rare argonian sub species that is more closely tied to frogs instead of lizards...frogonians....meh...one other piece of info the damn jumping also happens with other "partners"

 

LOL...changing speed ususally does it for me but wonder what else could be causing this problem hmmmm. Have you ever tried any other version of MLA or just the Vanilla ML? Does that cause any jumpping or do you mean this only happen when its NPC on NPC? Let me know, thanks.

[UNREAL]

This problem in the animation (the model of the actor is moved on 100 on Y axis from its collision)

[sikamikanico78]

can someone type here all the keys of MLA??

 

seems only the Y H G and shift + Y or H or G are working

 

U dosent do anything..

 

and somewere i saw a guy saying something about Z and X but they dont do anything also

[wuazzy]

I can join the group of people with buttons not working, I did install it in the right order, manually, and using SKSE loader + I have Minilovers in the top of my load order as well

[jbezorg]

 

my load order

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

miniloveridles.esm

miniloverssound.esm

---Other

fnisspells (if you are using it)

minilovers.esp

miniloverssoundspell.esp <---

miniloversalternative.esp

 

(I also use Niruinsbussinessplan too)

 

Something you may have missed. There are two versions of Niruins. One for AP and one for FINS. Are you using the one for AP or FINS?

 

Try disabling Niruins and running GenerateFNISforUsers.

 

If that does not work try this load order

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

miniloveridles.esm

miniloverssound.esm

---Other

fnisspells (if you are using it)

minilovers.esp

miniloversalternative.esp <---

miniloverssoundspell.esp <----

 

In most cases it comes down to disabling other mods until you find the conflict and that still may not do it if the broken mod's files have been overwritten by another.

[sethwarner08]

can someone type here all the keys of MLA??

 

seems only the Y H G and shift + Y or H or G are working

 

U dosent do anything..

 

and somewere i saw a guy saying something about Z and X but they dont do anything also

 

In my experience "U" doesnt always work, same reason why the console command "setunconscious 1" doesnt always work on an NPC, both do the same thing, its strange and is one of those inexplicable things, perhaps an experienced modder can shed more light as to why this happens. I've closely observed and learnt that reference IDs do/undo a lot in Skyrim. Several times things that didnt work just do when a NPCs reference ID changes, what governs this i do not know, but it has allowed me some control over Mods/actions.

[sethwarner08]

I just noticed something..all buttons (U,B,X,Y,G) worked perfectly without me loading SKSE while i had Skyrim version Version 1.6.89.0.6, i just updated to Version 1.7.7.0 and now it wont work unless i load through SKSE's 1.5.11. I know you are supposed to load with SKSE in the first place but i never did, and it always worked like a charm, wonder if the KEY issue SO many are having has something to do with 1.7.7.0.

[Mirrorimage]

That might be it... One thing I didn't mention in my previous post (http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=9024&pid=222005#pid222005) is that I am using 1.7.7.0.

 

I tried making another clean save with all my mods not only disabled, but actually completely uninstalled. Just the base game and Dawnguard. Made a clean save, added bodymods and FNIS and Minilovers again, still no working keys. I really am out of ideas now, short of completely reinstalling Skyrim or getting another keyboard...

[SuperJ]

Hi all,

 

I was in the 'YHGU keys don't work' group until I got lucky with the right combination I guess.

 

I use NMM and I have like 120 mods installed.

FNIS is one I alerady had so installing eromotion and minilovers was cake.

Installed those 2 and bammo working perfectly.

I finally decided to try minilovers alt and same day I updated skyrim and got dawnguard then got the 'bug?'. I thought it was minilovers alt but it wasn't.

 

Anyway... What I did after like a week of trial an error and was going to throw in the towel:

Uninstalled FNIS and everything that uses FNIS AND removed it from my NMM.

Made sure the data folder for SKSE was installed in the right place.

Made a clean save.

I did all that because on that day http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=10582 was born. This was my last hope before giving up.

Downloaded and installed FNIS.

Then I just went and tried the different mod packages. The first .omod package did not work. The second package with the voice placeholders or something also did not work. What did work was MiniLoversWithVoice.Scepth.Sounds.7z

It has since been updated but I have not installed any of the new updates sadly.

 

Anyway, try the mod packages. I also use BOSS for the load order but I don't think it touches any minilovers files. Basically, after installing, I didn't change any load order when it comes to the minilovers mod package.

[Trykz]

can someone type here all the keys of MLA??

 

seems only the Y H G and shift + Y or H or G are working

 

U dosent do anything..

 

and somewere i saw a guy saying something about Z and X but they dont do anything also

 

Y and shift-Y cycles forward and back through the various animations

Z and shift-Z moves the npc up or down in small increments

X and shift-X moves the NPC forward or back in small increments

G swaps actor position (male or female)

H and shift-H advances or reverses through the stages of an animation

 

I've never heard of U doing anything either.

[Daguy]

Wow, this thread got big.

 

Has minilovers advanced to the point its stable, somewhat varied in animations, and isn't going to kill saved games if I disable it? I'm trying to wait before downloading it. =)

[smoke1967]

ok..i hate doing this as solving things on my own is a better way to learn but...im having a problem with the NPCs... everything seems to work like its meant to...and ive had nearly no problems with this set of mods ..im using current SKSE' date=' SKYRIM, FNIS, ive got the posted reccomeded load order set up...now my issue is...the NPCs while doing the various acts and positions start bouncing/jumping...no not as part of the act lol... (position buttons even work for me)...i thought id read something about this issue on this thread before id made up my mind to try these but i cant seem to find it now...is it something to do with NPC & PC size diff?...for the record im playing a nord fem PC...the NPC in question is an argonian...(shes kinky like that ;-) ...)

[/quote']

 

Well this is a biproduct of an experimental feature. In fact this happens when PCs are engaged with an NPC as well at times. In my experience this happens the most when the couple isn't in the ideal position, changing the speed may solve this at times. Ive had bouncing occur when my PC's in the act and then when i drag them both to a better smooter location it resolves the issue.

 

Also know that NPCs may drag the victim NPC during the act and attempt to leave the room, because they're following their AI package, the MLA script apparently doesn't force them to halt all other activities while engaging in the act.

 

Something Humurous: While trying this out, i had an NPC raping a victim in a tavern, with Lissette singing "Dragonborn Comes" in the background, all of a sudden the victim NPC stands up and begins to clap, following her standard AI package (Sandbox) while the rapist NPC continues the thrusting, twas a truly hillarious sight. Just goes to show that NPC AI packages conflict with the AI in the MLA script and hence i believe the best way to do this is to have companions do the raping/ receiving.

 

it does seem to be tied to collision detec... i was playing around with the position keys and suddenly my argonian partner pops up about a foot and a half and continues "smoothly" humping my nord girls knees...i mean im sure argonians have all kinds of unusual kinks and fetishes but seriously?....knee humping?...lol...back to topic...speed dosent effect the jumping at all for me...nor does terrain it seems...ive tried "gettin down" in a lot of different places and still the damn jumping...hhmmm...could i have found that rare argonian sub species that is more closely tied to frogs instead of lizards...frogonians....meh...one other piece of info the damn jumping also happens with other "partners"

 

LOL...changing speed ususally does it for me but wonder what else could be causing this problem hmmmm. Have you ever tried any other version of MLA or just the Vanilla ML? Does that cause any jumpping or do you mean this only happen when its NPC on NPC? Let me know, thanks.

 

i dont have the NCP ON NCP version... yet...didnt really see a point to it...but as far as i know the jump bug happens in any version of mini lovers...i have all of them from the download thread...hmmm unless by versions you mean older releases...if so then no i havent tried any earlier versions

[shunter]

Wow' date=' this thread got big.

 

Has minilovers advanced to the point its stable, somewhat varied in animations, and isn't going to kill saved games if I disable it? I'm trying to wait before downloading it. =)

[/quote']

 

Yeah. It's pretty stable, now. It has a few glitches here and there (i.e. sometimes not being able to use any weapons/spells, or anything that requires your hands after using it, forcing you to restart the game). But for me it hasn't messed up with any save YET. Though, as all majorly scripted mods, I'd recommend using it then reloading to a previous save before continuing.

[merzavets]

can someone type here all the keys of MLA??

 

seems only the Y H G and shift + Y or H or G are working

 

U dosent do anything..

 

and somewere i saw a guy saying something about Z and X but they dont do anything also

 

Y and shift-Y cycles forward and back through the various animations

Z and shift-Z moves the npc up or down in small increments

X and shift-X moves the NPC forward or back in small increments

G swaps actor position (male or female)

H and shift-H advances or reverses through the stages of an animation

 

I've never heard of U doing anything either.

 

U - unconscious. The NPC closes eyes and stops making sounds

[Cyider]

U knock ur target unconscious (no more sound, eyes closed), B lets you end the animation.

[sethwarner08]

ok..i hate doing this as solving things on my own is a better way to learn but...im having a problem with the NPCs... everything seems to work like its meant to...and ive had nearly no problems with this set of mods ..im using current SKSE' date=' SKYRIM, FNIS, ive got the posted reccomeded load order set up...now my issue is...the NPCs while doing the various acts and positions start bouncing/jumping...no not as part of the act lol... (position buttons even work for me)...i thought id read something about this issue on this thread before id made up my mind to try these but i cant seem to find it now...is it something to do with NPC & PC size diff?...for the record im playing a nord fem PC...the NPC in question is an argonian...(shes kinky like that ;-) ...)

[/quote']

 

Well this is a biproduct of an experimental feature. In fact this happens when PCs are engaged with an NPC as well at times. In my experience this happens the most when the couple isn't in the ideal position, changing the speed may solve this at times. Ive had bouncing occur when my PC's in the act and then when i drag them both to a better smooter location it resolves the issue.

 

Also know that NPCs may drag the victim NPC during the act and attempt to leave the room, because they're following their AI package, the MLA script apparently doesn't force them to halt all other activities while engaging in the act.

 

Something Humurous: While trying this out, i had an NPC raping a victim in a tavern, with Lissette singing "Dragonborn Comes" in the background, all of a sudden the victim NPC stands up and begins to clap, following her standard AI package (Sandbox) while the rapist NPC continues the thrusting, twas a truly hillarious sight. Just goes to show that NPC AI packages conflict with the AI in the MLA script and hence i believe the best way to do this is to have companions do the raping/ receiving.

 

it does seem to be tied to collision detec... i was playing around with the position keys and suddenly my argonian partner pops up about a foot and a half and continues "smoothly" humping my nord girls knees...i mean im sure argonians have all kinds of unusual kinks and fetishes but seriously?....knee humping?...lol...back to topic...speed dosent effect the jumping at all for me...nor does terrain it seems...ive tried "gettin down" in a lot of different places and still the damn jumping...hhmmm...could i have found that rare argonian sub species that is more closely tied to frogs instead of lizards...frogonians....meh...one other piece of info the damn jumping also happens with other "partners"

 

LOL...changing speed ususally does it for me but wonder what else could be causing this problem hmmmm. Have you ever tried any other version of MLA or just the Vanilla ML? Does that cause any jumpping or do you mean this only happen when its NPC on NPC? Let me know, thanks.

 

i dont have the NCP ON NCP version... yet...didnt really see a point to it...but as far as i know the jump bug happens in any version of mini lovers...i have all of them from the download thread...hmmm unless by versions you mean older releases...if so then no i havent tried any earlier versions

 

Yeah, the older releases and just the vanilla version is what i meant. You need to establish if this is a version conflict with any of the mods you have installed currently. Try using the Minilovers Vanilla edition and disable/uninstall all MLA versions. Do a clean install and install Minilovers vanilla as specified on page 1 of this thread to see if the problem still persists. I have heard that later versions of MLA cause twitching/jumping. One thing you want to try is..keep "U" pressed while the animation is playing, twitching is supposed to stop immediately when you do so because the victim goes unconscious. If "U" doesn't work, while playing the animation, open the console, click on the victim and type: "setunconscious 1" (without the quotes) then hit enter.

 

See if that stops the bouncing, lets see where the problem lies.

[TurrableCake]

I find the that 'bouncing' can be fixed by adjusting with the Z key. According to the Readme, it moves the target up or down. It's in very, very, VERY small increments (so small you can't even tell they're moving at all), but it can fix this particular problem.

 

Just keep playing with Z or Shift+Z. If one seems to make it worse, try the other and you'll see it gets better. At least, it works for me...

[sethwarner08]

can someone type here all the keys of MLA??

 

seems only the Y H G and shift + Y or H or G are working

 

U dosent do anything..

 

and somewere i saw a guy saying something about Z and X but they dont do anything also

 

Y and shift-Y cycles forward and back through the various animations

Z and shift-Z moves the npc up or down in small increments

X and shift-X moves the NPC forward or back in small increments

G swaps actor position (male or female)

H and shift-H advances or reverses through the stages of an animation

 

I've never heard of U doing anything either.

 

U - unconscious. The NPC closes eyes and stops making sounds

 

Besides what the others have mentioned, "U" also stops the twitching which is supposed to simulate struggling.

[sikamikanico78]

strange them...why whould U not work when everything else works as intented?? any clues?

[Windbrand]

U doesn't work for me either. It does stop the twitching (which is HIGHLY ANNOYING, can only be fixed by shifting Y coord up/down to precise level, then happens again moment you switch poses) and sound, but there's no way to undo the changes unless you load a previous save...? I've tried shift+U, U, stopping sex and restarting it, nothing works. Also it messes up the Y coord... pressing Z or shift-Z after pressing U does nothing.

[toya]

Strange, my keybinds stopped working. Any ideas?

 

also, does this conflict with puppeteer master? cause that's the latest mod i installed and now "h" doesn't seem to work, or works at random times...

[sethwarner08]

U doesn't work for me either. It does stop the twitching (which is HIGHLY ANNOYING' date=' can only be fixed by shifting Y coord up/down to precise level, then happens again moment you switch poses) and sound, but there's no way to undo the changes unless you load a previous save...? I've tried shift+U, U, stopping sex and restarting it, nothing works. Also it messes up the Y coord... pressing Z or shift-Z after pressing U does nothing.

[/quote']

 

Yep i thought as much. Twitching is an MLA issue, there is a lot of twitching in MLAs latest versions, if i just use Minilovers with sound the twitching disappears completely. Hopefully well see a fix soon.