WickedWhims

[B10HAZARD.]

5 minutes ago, Reidus said:

Mccc?

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https://deaderpoolmc.tumblr.com/main

 

[Bhob]

On 5/28/2019 at 10:30 AM, Railgun01 said:

I hope the Teen and Incest content is kept in the public version of this mod.
I can understand having to have it removed for the Patreon version, but I feel that LoversLab should be the one place where mods like this can exist, uncensored.

You may want to take a look at:

 

[peasant007]

12 hours ago, DarkAudit said:

Are you using any lot traits?

 

Come to think of it, my sims like to workout naked when they go to the gym. I should check their naturism level next time it happens. 

No, no lot traits and I have Naturism turned off.  They're wearing their accessories and shoes but they aren't showing up in their Barista/Bartender/Chef (just noticed that) outfits.  It's just the service workers. Hosts are dressed, waiters are dressed, but the Sims making the food are all naked except for their hats, shoes, and accessories.

[Vampiressa]

20 minutes ago, peasant007 said:

No, no lot traits and I have Naturism turned off.  They're wearing their accessories and shoes but they aren't showing up in their Barista/Bartender/Chef (just noticed that) outfits.  It's just the service workers. Hosts are dressed, waiters are dressed, but the Sims making the food are all naked except for their hats, shoes, and accessories.

That sounds like they were using custom clothes and you've unistalled them.

If the lot is a restaurant, open it in edit mode. On the top left you'll see the lot details, you should be able to edit the employees uniforms from there.

[peasant007]

23 minutes ago, Vampiressa said:

That sounds like they were using custom clothes and you've unistalled them.

If the lot is a restaurant, open it in edit mode. On the top left you'll see the lot details, you should be able to edit the employees uniforms from there.

No, what I'm saying is that SPECIFICALLY the Barista/Bartender/Chef standard uniforms are busted in my game.  Not their regular clothes.  And I haven't really added or removed CC clothing in ages.

 

Edit for more information:  When going to a bar, the bartender (who will wear the black shirt/pants/apron combo) is instead naked instead of the default bartender clothes.  Go to a coffee shop and the barista (green shirt, black pants, apron) is naked.  But, strangely enough, all the food stall vendors are clothed.

[B10HAZARD.]

3 hours ago, Railgun01 said:

Don't worry, I'm fully aware of the Unlock mod.
I use the public version, not the Patreon one though so I'm just hoping that the public version doesn't lose those features when it updates.
Of course, it does depend on what Turbo decides to do. If they can change the settings of the mod so that the public version has the Teen/Incest content intact when it's released here then it would mean that people wouldn't need to download the unlock and would have one less mod to keep on top of.

Sadly i can't see TD keeping the features in the LL version when it updates on here.

He will do the same as what NisaK did with NWP & take them out.

[silvainshadows]

20 hours ago, B10HAZARD. said:

Sadly i can't see TD keeping the features in the LL version when it updates on here.

He will do the same as what NisaK did with NWP & take them out.

It'd be nice if TurboDriver would maybe just tell us what'll happen to those features in the next release, instead of leaving us to guess.

[MickCasanova]

Wonderful time to split off Wickedwhims from the newer features and make them separate mods. Personality and Attraction etc could stay on Patreon, and WW could stay here. Problem solved.

[B10HAZARD.]

36 minutes ago, silvainshadows said:

It'd be nice if TurboDriver would maybe just tell us what'll happen to those features in the next release, instead of leaving us to guess.

Agreed.

[Vanecessary]

Whats the difference between the Patreon version vs the public one?

[R-Lo]

28 minutes ago, Vanecessary said:

Whats the difference between the Patreon version vs the public one?

Patreon version is updated before the public one and has first look at new features, 

Currently the patreon WW has the attractions feature and a new way for object animations to be used among other things, 

 

Currently it also has the teen/adults relationship and incest removed to follow patreons guidelines so a patch to add those options has been uploaded here, 

 

It's unclear at the moment whether public version will be subject to this but as the fix is already available here that does not really matter, 

Hopefully this patch isn't something that will need regular updates or get broken with each EA update, 

If that does end up being the case, I'm sure that a better solution will be found, 

Turbo is pretty careful with keeping things backwards compatible as much as possible where he can 

[fred200]

Patreon is the only way for authors to generate revenue. People wanting new features subscribe to get them.

It is counter productive for authors to put new features in the public version first. That would be a disincentive to subscribe.

Be thankful Turbo - and Nisa - keep the public version up to date. Some authors go years without releasing a public version. Think Sims 3.

[MickCasanova]

5 hours ago, fred200 said:

Patreon is the only way for authors to generate revenue. People wanting new features subscribe to get them.

It is counter productive for authors to put new features in the public version first. That would be a disincentive to subscribe.

Be thankful Turbo - and Nira - keep the public version up to date. Some authors go years without releasing a public version. Think Sims 3.

Guess you never heard of Paypal eh? There was a time when people modded for the love of it rather than the greed of it...

[RitualClarity]

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First line alone is why the sims community is in the state it is now lol.

Not only the Sims community, but all modding.  However, unlike some individuals that put some stupid armor that they created in Patron, Turbo has a very complex and mature mod that he has placed the newest bleeding edge version  behind  a Patron wall. Which he releases to public on a very regular basis.

 

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Who said anything about putting new features in the public version first. I said he beta test on patreon, there's no lie in that statement. There's enough money being generated to hire quality control and still reward patreon subscribers with working new features but that is not the case.

Since you are a rules lawyer with your post after this... keep in mind the other rule that is even more important and enforced on this site. The author can take the mod in any direction he / she likes.  It is RULE #1 Turbo can take the mod in any direction he wants. There are many Patron supporters of his, and they are the ones that are in a position IMO to make such a statement to him on their Patron pages. Stating that here, on the free, is more combative and argumentative than "constructive".  If they didn't like what he was doing, they could always pull support from him. Each one of those supporters have a direct vote in what Turbo is doing.
 

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1. The biggest and most important thing of this community is that the modders come first. They are the ones who make this community worth coming to, they are the ones enabling you to even play these mods.  Meaning if you don't like the way a mod is going, don't be a jerk about it, they can take the mod in whatever direction they want. Don't like it? Then make your own release and put the work in yourself. Find a bug or issue that needs to be fixed? Don't be a jerk about it and raise your concerns and feedback in a constructive manner.
 

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It's actually against the rules as stated by the gurus and this site's tos to withhold a public release for "years". That nonsense only happened in Sims 3 because the game was basically moved on from with the arrival of Sims 4.

 

"Be thankful" lmao ok.

Yes, be thankful it is available in free form. He doesn't have to do it. He doesn't have to have it on this site. He can remove it and members here wouldn't have shit. His life would be so much easier doing that as opposed to what he is currently doing. There are so many other was to distribute a free version of this mod other than at LL that has none of the rules against Patron that Lovers Lab does.  Please be respectful of that fact.

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Guess you never heard of Paypal eh?

Last I heard PayPal has issues with porn and adult related products...

https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/article/What-is-PayPal’s-policy-on-transactions-that-involve-sexually-oriented-goods-and-services-FAQ569

 

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What is PayPal’s policy on transactions that involve sexually oriented goods and services?

 

 

 

We permit U.S.-only transactions for certain sexually oriented physical goods that are physically delivered to the customer. Videos, DVDs, and magazines are examples of physical goods. (We don’t allow transactions for such goods outside the U.S.)

We don’t permit PayPal account holders to buy or sell:

• Sexually oriented digital goods or content delivered through a digital medium. Downloadable pictures or videos and website subscriptions are examples of digital goods.
• Sexually oriented goods or services that involve, or appear to involve, minors.
• Services whose purpose is to facilitate meetings for sexually oriented activities.

Sexual preferences and viewpoints aren’t factors in determining what our policy prohibits.

In deciding what sexually oriented goods and services to allow, we consider:

• What regulations or restrictions are placed on the purchase or sale of the product.
• How the product is classified by a recognized ratings board.
• Whether the product describes or depicts sexual conduct in a patently offensive way.
• The dominant theme of the product material or website.
• The literary, artistic, political, or scientific value of the product.
• Potential medicinal or educational uses for the product.
• The product’s impact on the safety of our customers.

 

So as I understand the above.... PayPal isn't a viable plan for this... Otherwise... many would be using it ... INCLUDING THIS SITE...
It is greatly limited in how Pay pal can be used as opposed to Patron.

[fred200]

Well now, actually, RitualClarity - with his 11,000 posts, is someone I support.

Others - not so much.

[Vanecessary]

7 hours ago, R-Lo said:

Patreon version is updated before the public one and has first look at new features, 

Currently the patreon WW has the attractions feature and a new way for object animations to be used among other things, 

 

Currently it also has the teen/adults relationship and incest removed to follow patreons guidelines so a patch to add those options has been uploaded here, 

 

It's unclear at the moment whether public version will be subject to this but as the fix is already available here that does not really matter, 

Hopefully this patch isn't something that will need regular updates or get broken with each EA update, 

If that does end up being the case, I'm sure that a better solution will be found, 

Turbo is pretty careful with keeping things backwards compatible as much as possible where he can 

Thanks R-Lo, love. i was trying to figure that out for the longest.

[smjm81]

9 hours ago, silvainshadows said:

It'd be nice if TurboDriver would maybe just tell us what'll happen to those features in the next release, instead of leaving us to guess.

I guess I may be in the minority here, but I don't think any author who spends his/her own free time providing a community with free content owes us anything. Especially those like TD whose work is shared, downloaded and used by millions of people around the world. We're not entitled to anything. Not even a statement regarding something YOU may feel is important to address. 

 

If TD stops updating his mod tomorrow and quits......it's his choice. Just likes it's his choice to choose what he does and doesn't respond too. He don't owe us an explanation about anything.

 

Just my opinion is all. Again, I may be in the minority. 

[RitualClarity]

3 hours ago, fred200 said:

Well now, actually, RitualClarity - with his 11,000 posts, is someone I support.

Others - not so much.

You were correct in the statement that Patron is the only way to generate funds.. Only way I know of that is reliable and trustworthy enough for the general public to contribute (privacy and security etc etc concerns)

Also, true that they keep the public version  very updated as requested by the Admin/moderators of the site. They do a great job at it. That is really all that someone that uses the free version can request.

 

If someone has ideas or criticisms of the way Turbo does his work.. then I suggest that they contribute to his Patron account at a higher than average level. Someone that is doing that, well, then I can respect their comments on the manner of how he (Turbo) is doing his work. Sure people will state they have a right to speak and all that.. and they do, however, considering what is invested by them into the process, which isn't much, they really don't carry much weight. If anybody actually is checking those naysayers, they will soon realize they aren't (generally) individuals that have contributed to the site, this mod, Sims 4 community, or modding in general.  Correct me if I am wrong and someone is of that nature, posting criticisms on how Turbo does his work. I will be surprised. They know the amount of work, how much time, and effort and bother it is to do this. Anyone that is reading such negative post, should check on that fact before they give weight to their comments, especially when others which have contributed in general to the community (mentioned above) state otherwise.

 

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I guess I may be in the minority here, but I don't think any author who spends his/her own free time providing a community with free content owes us anything.

I agree with you to a point. They do owe us something... they owe users of their mods the following

• accurate description of what is being done
• honest attempt at correcting and distributing the best work they can. (skill doesn't matter.. just the best they can)
• honest and accurate communication to the users of their mod. (if they can't be available anymore, delayed, have problems, etc etc etc)

TL;DR, respect of those that use their works. Respect that they in turn would like to be demonstrated to them. This is all I expect in general from any mod author. I have seen total shit mods that actually harmed the entire game. Horrible mods... however, some of the time, the author explained they were new and were trying to do something. They were honest. I appreciated it and treated their work every bit as much respect as those that are the pillars of Bethesda Modding.

 

For the record.. Turbo does much more than this so in my book,... he is deserving of respect, regardless of issues glitches, or problems that arise in the creation of the mod or how he decides to do his work (Patron = Early Release/Free=older version)

[WandererZero]

10 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

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I guess I may be in the minority here, but I don't think any author who spends his/her own free time providing a community with free content owes us anything.

I agree with you to a point. They do owe us something... they owe users of their mods the following

• accurate description of what is being done
• honest attempt at correcting and distributing the best work they can. (skill doesn't matter.. just the best they can)
• honest and accurate communication to the users of their mod. (if they can't be available anymore, delayed, have problems, etc etc etc)

Thank you lord. 

 

Just want to chime in here to add an additional bit, as it seems highly relevant as of late.

 

The "mod owners do it with their free time so they owe people nothing" is, really...a false dichotomy in terms of mods, how they're created, and supported. Mods are software, and I have always felt strongly that a "modder" is kind of a dreg term on some level; these folks are software developers. Especially when talking about stuff like WW. TD is developing software in it's own right. Software has to be supported, and thus...on a basic level, users have a right to have some basic level of support. Especially if the developer wants their software used. It's not a one way thing, it's reciprocal. A good developer knows the users can be a great source of feedback, bug reports, etc...and in turn, the users get better software. This notion of "THEY DONT OWE ANYONE ANYTHING" is a peel and stick opinion. It makes development into some kind of infantile process, where people should just be grateful they have anything...never mind the quality. That's...patently absurd. Which brings me to the next point: 

 

Just because a person develops something, and gives it away...does not mean people cannot give their feedback. Some of that feedback will be critical in nature. Criticism is part of the process I mentioned above...yes, people should absolutely be polite and at a baseline level...respectful when leveling criticism; but criticism of software, how it's supported, how it's maintained is crucial if you ever want that software to get better. 

 

Generally speaking: people really need to stop with the "ZOMG, THEY DO IT FOR FREE SHUT UP" line. It's insulting to both dev and user insofar as it creates a false perspective of how things can and should flow. Free does not mean "Free from any criticism which could be possibly perceived as negative" .... Feedback, positive or negative: it's part of the game, if you do anything creative. 

[Teddy8627]

A dumb question coming through; My teen is pregnant and only has a small curve for a belly even at the third trimester, was this always a thing or did something change? I rarely play around with teen pregnancy, so I think this has happened before. The teen is male but has the 'can get pregnant' option. 

[R-Lo]

8 hours ago, Rettt86 said:

Lmao at these quote bombs and all this caping. Turbo doesn't have to utter a word when he has minions at this level.

 

I see why a lot of these guys have God complexes now. I also see why sims modding is in the state where you have people setting up full patreons for shit like recolors. With people like the ones in here it makes absolute sense.

 

You also assume that I wasn't ever on the patreon to know the things I know. That's a very strong assumption indeed. Btw I'm not mad at Turbo at all, he pulls in a ton. He's a smart guy. Still doesn't change the facts of what I said. He beta tests on patreon. That seem to have made you mad. On the mod itself I have issues that I didn't even raise in that post but you're in a tizzy from just that statement. The way how you're reacting it seems like you have a little statue dedicated to this guy somewhere.?

 

You also keep talking about this site's rules when I mentioned the EA gurus statement as well. It goes something like this:

 

" Good morning folks! So I've been alerted and wanted to provide some insight here on two points of discussion: CC/Mods locked behind a paywall and Patreon.

 

CC/Mods Locked Behind Paywalls - Creators cannot lock content they make using our game behind a paywall. While we do not police this content we do take reports sent to us seriously and action accordingly.
 

Patreon - We understand that folks who make CC / Mods for others to enjoy are doing it in their free time and may desire to offset costs to create the content by using this service. As long as the content is still made available FOR FREE we do not mind these types of pages. Folks who have a Patreon page are welcome to provide folks with "early access" incentives for their content but it should be made available to the general public within 2-3 weeks of it being given to folks early. "

 

Turbo isn't an offender of locking his stuff behind a paywall and I never said he was. These are the rules as stated by EA though. The amount of kowtowing when these are the defined rules is embarrassing.

 

Of course he can take his mod and upload the public version on another platform if he chooses. Seeing as he solicited all initial support through this website tho, that would probably be in very bad form. I could care less either way.

 

 

Ok, 

So it's a community when people are ganging up on creators but when they are backing a creator, deemed minions? 

 

I don't think anyone even focused on the beta test comment, 

The topic is for discussion about the game, not to bitch about what else he decided to add to the mod and about how much he earns, 

This is a mod with a lot of active users that are more than happy make bug reports and receive hot fixes, 

Why employ a bunch of people based in various parts of the world to sit and play wicked whims, 

People gripe and complain about the fact that people earn from making mods but insist that people should be paid to sit and play with mods?? 

That's a pretty laughable contradiction and another thing to look at when you wonder why people have something to say 

 

[RitualClarity]

2 hours ago, R-Lo said:

Ok, 

So it's a community when people are ganging up on creators but when they are backing a creator, deemed minions? 

 

I don't think anyone even focused on the beta test comment, 

The topic is for discussion about the game, not to bitch about what else he decided to add to the mod and about how much he earns, 

This is a mod with a lot of active users that are more than happy make bug reports and receive hot fixes, 

Why employ a bunch of people based in various parts of the world to sit and play wicked whims, 

People gripe and complain about the fact that people earn from making mods but insist that people should be paid to sit and play with mods?? 

That's a pretty laughable contradiction and another thing to look at when you wonder why people have something to say 

 

You know R-Lo (as someone that has contributed massively to the community here and elsewhere)
I'd just leave them alone and not post comments to those individuals. I know I have done so. So many times I think I am discussing something with someone rational (like yourself, )

 

The end result is they just keep on and on and on.. Guess they have nothing better to do with their life... Really a shame actually.

In the end the users of Turbo's framework is suffering with post of questions and answers (if even provided and not buried outright ) are being rapidly buried by such attempts along with any actual sincere constructive criticisms of the mod (not related to Patron or EA *Stuff* )

 

I suggest that those that believe Turbo has done something wrong related to Patron and such, report such post to the moderator team to decide (and very likely clean up) those post. Then focus could be given to those that need assistance with the mod. (likely myself as I am starting to itch to start a new game myself :P)

 

If anyone is honestly concerned with the Patron issue or whatever EA crap that was brought up.. I honestly would suggest that you take it up with the Admin /Moderator team. They are the ones that can make the necessary changes to fix any issue  of this sort. This applies to this mod, any mod, any author, any policy, any copyright issue, or whatever other operational issues you come up with. I am being honest and sincere on this. The Admin/Moderators are the only ones that can make such changes and until they decide to make whatever changes you believe are necessary rest assure, no author or member will.

[aicare]

I'm sorry for changing the topic, but I'm fairly new at WW and all its stuff and keep getting this bug where animations won't stop and when I try to cancel the action the sim goes into a loop of trying to restart the animation. Also sorry but English is not my first language so explaining things is a bit hard for me.

 

This is my LE file in case it helps. I could provide more files or screenshots if needed. Thanks in advance for the help.

 

 

EDIT: I added more files 

lastException.txt WickedWhims.log WickedWhims_4.3.5.140d_Exception.txt

[DarkAudit]

Is there a timer on how long the system will wait for the ask for sex action to occur before it cancels? I've had sims travel from one floor of their house to another, and right past the intended partner going the other way because sim 2 started a new action while the first sim was en route to the old location. It sometimes takes three or four attempts before they finally are close enough to each other for the request to take.

[Bhob]

Public Service Announcement
Solutions for some common problems.
Please check TD's official help pages at https://wickedwhimsmod.com/help

LastException
Please check your lastException.txt files against https://lastexception.com/

It will often give you immediate feedback on what to fix.

White area around male's underwear area
Check for other penis rigs, especially CmarNYC's  (The rest of CmarNYC's stuff won't cause this conflict, they do great work.)

I upgraded WickedWhims and now X doesn't work
1.  Make sure that any related modules are also up to date, especially CNWW and Nisa's.  That's a regular issue.  They may lag a day or two behind a WW update but the creators are quite good at getting out updates.
2.  Try a Shallow Cleaning of WW.  Instructions from TD's website:  https://wickedwhimsmod.com/help#/cleaning-game-save/

Something Else
With so many people enjoying WWs, it's likely that your problem has already come up and been solved.  For the fastest results, check the last few pages of this thread to see if there is a resolution already posted.