WickedWhims

[fred200]

I think your argument is with the people giving you bad information.

I have always run MC WooHoo and WW together. I have never seen a conflict.

[NekoboyGames]

11 minutes ago, fred200 said:

I think your argument is with the people giving you bad information.

I have always run MC WooHoo and WW together. I have never seen a conflict.

It was @Scorpio who told me. 

They also told another member.

 

Or else I would've used both.

 

Especially now since the NPC birthcontrol settings seems bugged. I have it set to rare use and still, 7 of 10 times, the NPC use a condom and put a condom on all partipating males.

[fred200]

I grant you Scorpio is opposed.

If you want to see more general opinions, google: wickedwhims mccc WooHoo site:www.loverslab.com

No one has said "I used MCC WooHoo with WW and it broke my game".

[NekoboyGames]

21 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

On 5/6/2019 at 8:19 PM, NekoboyGames said:

 

 

I agree with you both, though there is a thing called RapePlay. What I understand is that 2 or more ppl agree on acting out a rape scene. Now you probably think "that isnt rape as it's consent". That is true that it is with consent. But as the "victim" don't know when and where the "rape" will happen and the sex is forcefull, maybe even violent without any foreplay and words like no/stop/dont have no meaning. I get why ppl use the word rape for this type of sex.  

 

 

Then they are doing it wrong. There ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE A SAFE WORD  in these situations.  Otherwise.... it can be RAPE the very second one or more of those involved decides they don't want to do x,y,z anymore. There always needs to be some sort of communication available to let the other(s) know to stop (and possibly check)

 

Ofc there is a safe word/gesture/sign. What I ment was that the typical no/stop/dont words are part of the play and thats why they got no meaning to them.  

 

 

21 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

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I'm a sub/switch and there are many kinds of different D/s relationship and BDSM has many fetish. Trust is very important as well as understanding and loyalty.

I imagine if something goes wrong and your Dom goes a bit too far (or if you switch  and go too far) the sub likely has a much more difficult time getting into the mood/act.

 

I'm not sure I understand what you are implying. Especially as you only quote a part of my text, which pretty much remove the meaning of what I said, which in whole was:

On 5/6/2019 at 8:19 PM, NekoboyGames said:

I'm a sub/switch and there are many kinds of different D/s relationship and BDSM has many fetish. Trust is very important as well as understanding and lojalty. I usually tell ppl tha a relationship between a Dom/Domme and a sub is like a marriage, but not all relationships contains romantic feelings/love, which a marriage usually do.

 

Also, a Dom/Domme needs to be able to see if the sub might fall into sub space and slow down/quit if needed. And also start with the aftercare, which is a really important matter after a session, both physical and psycological.

[NekoboyGames]

5 minutes ago, fred200 said:

I grant you Scorpio is opposed.

If you want to see more general opinions, google: wickedwhims mccc WooHoo site:www.loverslab.com

No one has said "I used MCC WooHoo with WW and it broke my game".

They were the only one answering the question though. And that was pretty much the only thread I found about the subject back then, when searching the forum. That's why I'm question it.

Not even TD opposed what Scorpio said about MC Woohoo. TD only said WW and MCCC work together as long as preg settings are the same. The preg settings is in MCCC and not MC Woohoo.

 

So now I'm really confused tbh. And google gave nothing useful.

[fred200]

I searched TD's WW documentation also. All he said was that MC Command is part of his regular testing lineup.

Maybe he will pop in and give his opinion.

As for me, they work fine together and I have seen no reason to change until a conflict surfaces.

[NekoboyGames]

Just now, fred200 said:

I searched TD's WW documentation also. All he said was that MC Command is part of his regular testing lineup.

Maybe he will pop in and give his opinion.

As for me, they work fine together and I have seen no reason to change until a conflict surfaces.

MC Woohoo is a separate mod that you can chose to add to MCCC, though it does need MCCC to work.

 

[RitualClarity]

1 hour ago, NekoboyGames said:

 

Ofc there is a safe word/gesture/sign. What I ment was that the typical no/stop/dont words are part of the play and thats why they got no meaning to them.  

 

 

 

I'm not sure I understand what you are implying. Especially as you only quote a part of my text, which pretty much remove the meaning of what I said, which in whole was:

 

Also, a Dom/Domme needs to be able to see if the sub might fall into sub space and slow down/quit if needed. And also start with the aftercare, which is a really important matter after a session, both physical and psycological.

Sorry, wanted to be as brief as possible.

I believe you when you state trust is the most important aspect and was meaning to state that if that was violated it is very hard to get back that trust and very hard to be able to be a part of such relationship.  TL:DR... I was agreeing with you and trying to make an example .. not to good of one  

[SkyBarbie]

6 hours ago, NekoboyGames said:

That's not what I was told when I was about to get WW. I was actually told I had to remove MC Woohoo if I was gonna install WW as they conflicting. And that their settings are pretty much the same but WW has the sex.

We already gave you the correct answer.  Lots of players run both without issues.

 

As long as you match pregnancy settings between MCCC and WW you should be fine.

 

Please don't spread misinformation.  You were given bad advice.  The only thing WW does with the 'Woohoo' and 'Try for baby' interactions is allowing those options to be available during WW sex.  That is it.  MC Woohoo primarily affects those two interactions.  WW does nothing with them (aside from allowing those two options to be available during WW sex if that option is chosen in WW Settings).

[HentaiGnome]

Although to be fair, if you already have WW then MC Woohoo is redundant. Not saying that they conflict with each other per se, but WW does everything that MC Woohoo offers (and then some), so while you can have both installed at the same time there's really no need. I'd go out on a limb to say that MC Woohoo is for players that prefer "vanilla" woohoo experience with some useful options not available in the base game. WW is for players who want something a little more explicit.

[B10HAZARD.]

20 minutes ago, HentaiGnome said:

Although to be fair, if you already have WW then MC Woohoo is redundant. Not saying that they conflict with each other per se, but WW does everything that MC Woohoo offers (and then some), so while you can have both installed at the same time there's really no need. I'd go out on a limb to say that MC Woohoo is for players that prefer "vanilla" woohoo experience with some useful options not available in the base game. WW is for players who want something a little more explicit.

The try for baby in WW is not available for teens, in MC Woohoo it is.

that's the difference between the two.

Maybe TD can change that, then there would be no need to have both.

[HentaiGnome]

1 minute ago, B10HAZARD. said:

The try for baby in WW is not available for teens, in MC Woohoo it is.

that's the difference between the two.

Maybe TD can change that, then there would be no need to have both.

I see. I guess for me personally I just don't need/enable the vanilla woohoo options since I do everything via WW. So essentially my teenage sims can still get pregnant, etc. with just WW.

[B10HAZARD.]

6 minutes ago, HentaiGnome said:

I see. I guess for me personally I just don't need/enable the vanilla woohoo options since I do everything via WW. So essentially my teenage sims can still get pregnant, etc. with just WW.

It's like you said, it uses basegame woohoo. and as we all know, teens are excluded from it in the game.

It's just handy if you want to get a sim pregnant quicker, (set it to 100 & disable auto woohoo in mc settings) but it just doesn't work for teens without the MC Woohoo module.

The try for baby works for all other ages in WW.

[HentaiGnome]

6 minutes ago, B10HAZARD. said:

It's like you said, it uses basegame woohoo. and as we all know, teens are excluded from it in the game.

It's just handy if you want to get a sim pregnant quicker, (set it to 100 & disable auto woohoo in mc settings) but it just doesn't work for teens without the MC Woohoo module.

The try for baby works for all other ages in WW.

Although if you don’t mind explaining, any particular reason as to why you’d need teens to “try for baby” if you could accomplish the same thing in WW? Is it a role playing thing? Or is it that for some people they’d rather not see an explicit woohoo between teen sims? Or is it because people are asking about mc woohoo since they don’t use WW? I admit I got into this topic late so I’m just trying to wrap my head around as to why it seems important for teens to be able to “try for baby” when, again, in WW you can just enable teen romance (and disable the age check) and set a percentage chance for pregnancy. Not trying to argue or anything, I’m legitimately curious lol

[B10HAZARD.]

3 minutes ago, HentaiGnome said:

Although if you don’t mind explaining, any particular reason as to why you’d need teens to “try for baby” if you could accomplish the same thing in WW? Is it a role playing thing? Or is it that for some people they’d rather not see an explicit woohoo between teen sims? Or is it because people are asking about mc woohoo since they don’t use WW? I admit I got into this topic late so I’m just trying to wrap my head around as to why it seems important for teens to be able to “try for baby” when, again, in WW you can just enable teen romance (and disable the age check) and set a percentage chance for pregnancy. Not trying to argue or anything, I’m legitimately curious lol

This topic started because someone a few posts back wondered why the try for baby didn't work in WW.

 

If you have WW set to the menstrual cycle for pregnancy & you want to get a sim pregnant, it's quicker to use the try for baby.

But, the "try for baby" does not work in WW if your sim target for pregnancy is a teen, it won't let you select them.

that's it. 

[HentaiGnome]

Ah okay, that makes perfect sense now lol. Thanks for clearing that up!

 

(Note: Personally, how I get around the issue of quickly making a sim pregnant is to actually not use the menstrual cycle but instead use the simplified mode where I just set a percentage chance. Sure, it's more unrealistic that way, but it does achieve the overall goal. Also adds the so-called "risk factor" involved similar to vanilla "try for baby" where AFAIK it doesn't take into consideration realistic menstrual cycles anyway ? )

[B10HAZARD.]

2 minutes ago, HentaiGnome said:

Ah okay, that makes perfect sense now lol. Thanks for clearing that up!

No problem. 

[SkyBarbie]

2 hours ago, HentaiGnome said:

Although to be fair, if you already have WW then MC Woohoo is redundant. Not saying that they conflict with each other per se, but WW does everything that MC Woohoo offers (and then some), so while you can have both installed at the same time there's really no need. I'd go out on a limb to say that MC Woohoo is for players that prefer "vanilla" woohoo experience with some useful options not available in the base game. WW is for players who want something a little more explicit.

None of what you said is correct. MC Woohoo affects a lot of settings and options for the 'Woohoo' and 'Try for baby' interactions.  WW focuses on WW animated sex.  They both affect different things.  Having WW does not make MC Woohoo redundant.

[DarkAudit]

Related but maybe not. Does WW sex tire out Elder sims like WooHoo does? Overexerted one with Death By WooHoo the other day.

 

[DarkAudit]

1 minute ago, SkyBarbie said:

None of what you said is correct. MC Woohoo affects a lot of settings and options for the 'Woohoo' and 'Try for baby' interactions.  WW focuses on WW animated sex.  They both affect different things.  Having WW does not make MC Woohoo redundant.

Care to elaborate? I was also under the impression that MC Woohoo was unnecessary if I had WW. Then I discovered a whole lot of pregnancy and relationship defaults were set way too conservatively for my liking. More affairs? More affairs resulting in pregnancy? Yes, please.

 

If there's more tweaking I can do to go full telenovela with the NPC's with MC Woohoo in my toolkit, I'm all in.

[SkyBarbie]

1 minute ago, DarkAudit said:

Care to elaborate? I was also under the impression that MC Woohoo was unnecessary if I had WW. Then I discovered a whole lot of pregnancy and relationship defaults were set way too conservatively for my liking. More affairs? More affairs resulting in pregnancy? Yes, please.

 

If there's more tweaking I can do to go full telenovela with the NPC's with MC Woohoo in my toolkit, I'm all in.

That's an opinion but it isn't fact.  MC Woohoo improves the default Sims 4 'Woohoo' and 'Try for baby' interactions.  If you don't have MC Woohoo you'll miss out on a lot of configurable options and features.  WW doesn't touch those two interactions.  So if you think WW replaces MC Woohoo you are missing out on options and features that improve two interactions that come with The Sims 4 by default.

 

If you don't care about those interactions, then I guess MC Woohoo isn't needed.  The two mods affect different parts of the game but WW doesn't replace or include all the features of MC Woohoo unless you are replacing those interactions with WW interactions.  Still not a replacement technically though.

[NekoboyGames]

22 hours ago, RitualClarity said:

Sorry, wanted to be as brief as possible.

I believe you when you state trust is the most important aspect and was meaning to state that if that was violated it is very hard to get back that trust and very hard to be able to be a part of such relationship.  TL:DR... I was agreeing with you and trying to make an example .. not to good of one  

Ah, I see. And I totally know what you mean.

I had a Dom "decollar" me bc he fell in love with a younger sub and was bored of me. Hurt me alot. When I finally started to trust again. I met my ex.

 

They thought being Dom/Domme ment the same as 100% rule over someone else life no matter if the sub agreed on it or not. It was almost a year of mental abuse, then they made something that made me "wake up" and see them for the undiagnosed narcissist they were. 

 

Am I angry at my ex? No, I just feel sad for them and hope they get help.

The person I'm actually angry at are my now ex-friend who did nothing while I was getting mentally destroyed, and their only excuse was "I saw what happened but you were so in love so I didn't want to destroy that".

 

I hope to one day find a Dom who I feel that I can trust and safe with.

[NekoboyGames]

19 hours ago, SkyBarbie said:

We already gave you the correct answer.  Lots of players run both without issues.

 

As long as you match pregnancy settings between MCCC and WW you should be fine.

 

Please don't spread misinformation.  You were given bad advice.  The only thing WW does with the 'Woohoo' and 'Try for baby' interactions is allowing those options to be available during WW sex.  That is it.  MC Woohoo primarily affects those two interactions.  WW does nothing with them (aside from allowing those two options to be available during WW sex if that option is chosen in WW Settings).

I just said what I was told. and I've only seen like 2 or 3 ppl state they use both, unless I missed some answers. But will try to add MC Woohoo to my adult mods folder as I pretty much need risky woohoo and try for baby.

 

17 hours ago, HentaiGnome said:

Although if you don’t mind explaining, any particular reason as to why you’d need teens to “try for baby” if you could accomplish the same thing in WW? Is it a role playing thing? Or is it that for some people they’d rather not see an explicit woohoo between teen sims? Or is it because people are asking about mc woohoo since they don’t use WW? I admit I got into this topic late so I’m just trying to wrap my head around as to why it seems important for teens to be able to “try for baby” when, again, in WW you can just enable teen romance (and disable the age check) and set a percentage chance for pregnancy. Not trying to argue or anything, I’m legitimately curious lol

My reason is that my teens don't get preg unless I do followings:

*Set NPC birthcontrol use to no birthcontrol at all

*Pregnancy chance for both NPC and player to over 50%. (If I let them do multiple gangbangs with many different sims within 24h, then 30% is enough.)

 

I want to have it so some NPC use birthcontrol when my sim works, but rare usage isn't rare imo as 7 of 10 NPCs use condoms. Even tried to make my sim have a relationship with one client and both bars full and still, the boyfriend kept using condoms and even putting condoms on all other males if there was any other males joining the sex. And I don't want to put the pregnancy chances at 100% as I want the preg to be "an accident during work" and not a pregnancy with the first unprotected client.

 

In another case, I wanted a polygami teen sim, to have a baby through sex but that sim didn't got pregnant until I changed it to 100% and in many cases, I just give up and use the MCCC pregnancy to make the sim pregnant.

 

This is why I needed woohoo/try for baby menu for teens. I like the storyplay with an unknown or multiple fathers. I also love making orphan/homeless/runaway teens in different kind of dramas. Alot of which involve sex somehow. 

 

This also occures on many different savefiles. So its not just one game.

 

I don't know why my sims, teen, YA and A is having such a hard time getting pregnant but its annoying.

 

I have simple mode on as the menstrual cycle was really annoying and didnt make sense. The sim bleed so much they panties gets soaked, yet the vampire gets sad when preforming oral as there's only a few drops of blood.

 

Also, can't remember if it was MCCC or WW who had the pregnancy moodswings, but the angry moodlet needs to be fixed for vampires. Every time my preg vampire get that moodlet, they uncontrolably attacks the closest human/alien and take a deep drink even if they're not hungry. My poor alien sim missed worked alot bc his vampire wife went through that moodlet alot. Only way to cancel it to my knowledge is to use MCCC cheats -> reset sim.

[RitualClarity]

2 hours ago, NekoboyGames said:

Ah, I see. And I totally know what you mean.

I had a Dom "decollar" me bc he fell in love with a younger sub and was bored of me. Hurt me alot. When I finally started to trust again. I met my ex.

 

They thought being Dom/Domme ment the same as 100% rule over someone else life no matter if the sub agreed on it or not. It was almost a year of mental abuse, then they made something that made me "wake up" and see them for the undiagnosed narcissist they were. 

 

Am I angry at my ex? No, I just feel sad for them and hope they get help.

The person I'm actually angry at are my now ex-friend who did nothing while I was getting mentally destroyed, and their only excuse was "I saw what happened but you were so in love so I didn't want to destroy that".

 

I hope to one day find a Dom who I feel that I can trust and safe with.

Exactly what I mean.

 

[Medicman]

is there away to override the WW nude outfit?