Varithina Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Another frustrating thing is i just leveled up to 4 science and yet i cant update or build the top of the line mod for the plasma gun, even though i have all of the items required for it..... Might be worth while checking but I am pretty sure you still need Gun Nut as well for a weapons mods, probably rank 3 or 4 at a guess.
garg Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 And all the pet peeves that just about everybody had about Skyrim have been modded out. What were you guys expecting a game that bloody well pleased everybody? If you don't like something about the game check to see if it has been changed by a mod or open up the editor and do it yourself. It might be okay to have a peeve about something in a game but if you totally dislike a game then move along to something else in stead of constantly winging about it!
c0mpute Posted August 12, 2016 Author Posted August 12, 2016 And all the pet peeves that just about everybody had about Skyrim have been modded out. What were you guys expecting a game that bloody well pleased everybody? If you don't like something about the game check to see if it has been changed by a mod or open up the editor and do it yourself. It might be okay to have a peeve about something in a game but if you totally dislike a game then move along to something else in stead of constantly winging about it! Well Duh, I think we all know that from the beginning of this thread. It was an attempt to get people to disclose certain issues they did not like within the game or certain events that happen,to which have probably already been talked about at some point or another on another thread or website forum some where else. I seen a lot of posts and no post to allow some to let off a grudge within a game. It would also help others who have not completed the game (like myself for instance that only just bought it) to find out what they could possibly come across while playing it... LOL Rather than search the forum to find bugs ect and fix em. why not put them in one thread and have people read and some possibly attempt to fix or link to fixes that have already been done?... So yeah.. Like Duh... LOL PS, Don't take offense to it, just laugh.. Help release the tension within the Modding community rather than help build it up.
garg Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 And all the pet peeves that just about everybody had about Skyrim have been modded out. What were you guys expecting a game that bloody well pleased everybody? If you don't like something about the game check to see if it has been changed by a mod or open up the editor and do it yourself. It might be okay to have a peeve about something in a game but if you totally dislike a game then move along to something else in stead of constantly winging about it! Well Duh, I think we all know that from the beginning of this thread. It was an attempt to get people to disclose certain issues they did not like within the game or certain events that happen,to which have probably already been talked about at some point or another on another thread or website forum some where else. I seen a lot of posts and no post to allow some to let off a grudge within a game. It would also help others who have not completed the game (like myself for instance that only just bought it) to find out what they could possibly come across while playing it... LOL Rather than search the forum to find bugs ect and fix em. why not put them in one thread and have people read and some possibly attempt to fix or link to fixes that have already been done?... So yeah.. Like Duh... LOL PS, Don't take offense to it, just laugh.. Help release the tension within the Modding community rather than help build it up. I have many grudges about fallout 4 but I don't hate the game and I don't vistit forums of games I dislike! Waste of time! There are people that always like to dish games and they hang around on forums just so they can fulfil there dislike and try to get other to dislike it! I wonder sometimes if they have the time to actually play games! Anyway Bethesda forums is where they should be venting there anger!
dechuba Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Settlement building felt half arsed and for me I felt due to the focus on settlement building, the quality and quantity of quests was severely lacking as a consequence. The radiant quests also sucked and I felt was the lazy method to compensate for the lack of unique side quests. Modding weapons also whilst good in theory ended up being handled poorly. The lack of ammo types was also a disappointment. I thought the last 20% of the story quests also left a lot to be desired since you basically pick a side and screw everyone else.
erc1971 Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Right now what totally pisses me off is the fact I can't even play the game because they updated the runtime and the script extender needs to be updated I was going to say this as well. They did 2 updates within a 4 or 5 day span. Now I have to wait for F4SE and the PPPL mod to get updated to play again. Grr.
KicklerOfButts Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 That's not really a fault of Fallout 4 though, that's just a general issue that all software has in common and nothing can be done about. So long as a program is being continually updated, mods will always risk becoming incompatible. Only way around it is to wait with modding until the software stops being supported and a final version is released.
Varithina Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 Right now what totally pisses me off is the fact I can't even play the game because they updated the runtime and the script extender needs to be updated I was going to say this as well. They did 2 updates within a 4 or 5 day span. Now I have to wait for F4SE and the PPPL mod to get updated to play again. Grr. At least we should have maybe another 3-5 updates, 1 for Nuka world and a few more after it, then they will probably go done enough and stop updating the game.
Darktiki Posted August 13, 2016 Posted August 13, 2016 I have 3 pet peeves. 1. The commonwealth is too condensed. Everything is scaled down and I REALLY don't like that. Lexington is not a short jog from Boston proper!!!!! 2. They turned the Museum of Science into a GIFT SHOP! Seriously, they threw a perfectly good and interesting building into a gift shop! Wheres the exhibit hall? Wheres the scaled Trex. WHERE is the world's largest air-insulated Van de Graaff generator! That building was the perfect location for a quest arc, or even a new settlement, but nope....giftshop. Completely wasted. I dont care if they had to because of the scale down, they could have made it underground or something. 3.THEY LEFT OUT MY HOME TOWN! They changed a lot of the areas, but my home town should have been there! Its old and and boarders the freaking city.
poiuyt Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 The complete and total reliance on "faceless" random: "Go to X and kill everybody", "quests". The signs were already there in Skyrim, but at least there Radiant quests were mostly optional things that you got by actively polling dispenser NPCs, whereas in Fallout 4, they are not only incessantly foisted on you, but right in there padding the core narrative. I suppose the endless respawning is necessary to support the crafting distraction, but man does it get old and tired.
elsaeraser Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 1. This is the first Fallout to very narrowly predefine as who I am playing... and it is a ex army guy or a milf with an law degree. That is just perfect. 2. Like Darktiki I think it is too condensed and that is most painfully obvious when it comes to fights. I can't count how often I just wanted to get some cover and time to stim up and stumbled into another group of attackers. One would think that those enemy groups wouldn't sit around as next door neighbors until I stumble through there.
Comfortblynumb2 Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 My biggest FO4 complaint is this. The main story, it takes the immersion right out of the game for me. Sorry Shaun, I gotta help rebuild the Minutemen, or help the Brotherhood of Steel. I don't think a mod can fix this, but the game forces you to be the GOOD GUY, and it sucks. There's no blowing up a Megaton in FO4, no siding with the Powder Gangers, it's the only Bethesda game i can think of that is so linear. Also, the complete waste of areas, seems they went for a quantity over quality, I remember when i heard of the Insane Asylum, i was like, oh shit, i can't wait to see that place...I thought it would be cool...i thought it would be cool. About the ONLY hope for a cool interesting place in-game, is to download a mod that adds a place. Pipe weapons are the dumbest thing i've ever seen, it doesn't make me feel like a badass when i'm carrying around this jerry-rigged gun that looks like it'd blow up in my hands. Also, makes the loot lame, when every enemy has them. The DLCs have been complete shite, with exceptions for Robo, and Nuka (i hope) I may be the only one who doesn't hate the settlements btw, i quite enjoy building them. Voiced player character, stupid idea, poor execution. RNG Charisma checks Weapons and Armor needed more variation. Suffice it to say, there is a lot i dislike about this game. I wish Bethesda wouldn't waste their time on TES 5.5, and just started work on TES 6, so i they could either save or destroy my confidence in their products for here on out. If another FO4 drops, i'm gonna be more weary of their next project.
taftvalue Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 The fact that the story stops when it gets the most interesting. I'm now in charge of the Institute and all I can do is build settlements completely unrelated to my position. Yay.
shadowlord445 Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 The Institute weapons are TOO FUCKING BIG.
Miarc007 Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 Character background, They call it an Role playing game? more like basically a set character with a few multiple choises thrown in. A skill system that uses only perks. Drives me up the wall; would not have minded if they'd modeled something after Skyrims system of using the skill increase the skill slowly over time. But the skills to perk switch really killed a lot of my enjoyment.
Frel Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 To me it's simple: the fact that Bethesda decided to make a popular action game on the remain of my favorite CRPG I do enjoy the action game and made peace with it but there's always a voice in my head nagging me "hey you used to love fallout because you could be anybody in an interesting world" (I hate this voice saying the same thing since Fallout 3)
asdasd123123 Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 The game is an awesome action game. The gunplay is perfect, the gun attachments are awesome, and the AI is MUCH better. I remember in prior Fallouts the NPC's would sit in a single spot and continuously shoot until you put a bullet in their heads. But the game is defiantly lacking in the RPG portion. There is absolutely no depth, MOST characters are bland and don't have a backstory, and the story is on rails. You can only kill about 3 NPC's in an entire city. Builds are also almost non-existent. Fallout 3 wasn't much better, but now you literally don't need to touch your SPECIAL stats and your character can evolve into any builds. You can be an aggressive melee character then switch to a stealthy sniper. That to me kills the point of replaying. SO the game is worth the $$, has a lot of potential, but defiantly not superior to Fallout NV. My review might also be extremely biased considering i played the HELL out of Fallout 1/2/3/NV to the point were i found Fallout 4 stale fairly quickly. Edit: And wtf happened to Factions? I absolutely loved that in Fallout NV!
Kuroitsune Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 My biggest pet peeve is the game. When I heard it was coming out, I wasn't looking forward to it. I figured if I had no expectations I wouldn't be disappointed and yet I was still disappointed by the game. Only upside was the fact my brother gifted me the game, likely as a joke. The common theme in this game (and the points addressed in this thread), is that there was no effort put into it. Yes, game development is hard. It's not easy to put all of the pieces together then paint on those pieces and make that picture fit within the borders. They put the focus into making the game sparkle and shine - which it fails at spectacularly - and streamlining it to make it more accessible by folks new to the series. There was nothing left to put into making the game good instead of 'meh.
ophidian Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 My biggest peeve with FO4 is how the devs seemed to rely on generated content instead of crafted content to fill the world. They needed less fill in the blank quests that sound like "i need you to go to _(place)_ and _(kill/find/save)_ _(person/object)_" and more quests like the FO3 wasteland survival guide quest or towns like Covenant where theres unique, interesting and deliberate things happening in the world The really sad part to me is i think they were really close to a good balance of this with Skyrim and broke it
Cozza Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 I have alot of pet peeves about FO4 but I will go for the biggest. That the game is so hand holding. I recently played through Fallout 1. "Find the water chip" that's itWell fuck me, I got told i should check vault 15. empty elevator shaft, need rope. Where the hell is a rope, instead of telling me exactly where the rope is, the game is really like "Look for it yourself arsehole :P" where in Fallout 4 the same situation would be "Need a rope. Go inquire in the general store in Diamond City about one" and be coincidence it would have one. *Beware spoiler warnings ahead" And that's what I wanted in FO4, really open and leaving allot up to the player to discover how to find Shaun, Don't tell me each step of how to find Shaun, Let me work it out on my own . Instead what i got was "Welcome to the wasteland. Find Shaun. You should goto Sanctuary to start" "Oh look Codsworth. He says goto Concord" "Ahhh minutemen. Now goto Diamond City" "Now get Nick Valentine" "Now go find Harken" "Now go find Virgil" "Build a teleporter" TADA theres Shawn. And there's really no way off that path, I get told exactly what to do and where to go, and really there's no way i can get off that path. I can skip the minutemen and go straight for Diamond City. But I'm still on the same path to find Shaun. And that's what really grinds my gears. And no time limit. Imagine how much of a shock for first time playing if you spent too long building settlements and other things only for when you do find the institute that Shaun succumb to his cancer and died before you could find him.
Shininku Posted August 21, 2016 Posted August 21, 2016 So, offtopic, technically, a condensed and also restatement of the obvious: There is no Roleplaying in this RPG. And yet it's also worse than action games. This is literally a shooter with city-building settlements. And even for the latter, you need mods to really make it better. Now on-topic and to actual pet-peeves: The kid in the fridge. Like seriously; 200 years? Why has no one cleaned the populated cities? (This one applies to a lot of games) Why is that animal carrying a shotgun/armor/other thing? (Like someone said before) Skeletons from the bombing should not be pefectly together, in fact they'd be dust with as much time has passed. I HATE being forced to tell Piper that you're searching for Shaun. It's none of your damn business. (Not really a pet-peeve) Why aren't there more quests with Valentine as a detective duo? I want more Silver Shroud. That quest was really fun, which (for me) is more than I can say about most of FO4 sadly. (Something I don't understand why more people don't argue) Why the fuck is the DLC worth as much as a brand new game? Remember when ALL the ACTUAL CONTENT DLC to FO3 only cost 25$ AND that game was better than FO4 in many ways? You could buy Point Lookout (with Mothership? Or was it Anchorage?) for 10$ I believe, and now the FO4 Point Lookout is 15$ alone. But maybe it's because I don't have so much free money that I actually realize this. My biggest pet-peeve, (that's not actually a pet-peeve because of the nature of what a pet-peeve actually means) is that the settlement system had so much potential in my opinion. Imagine if there was actually karma or factions, you could turn on the minutemen, kill them, and then establish a base of a new group of raiders. Then you could overtake the wasteland with your own settlements of your own raiders. You could literally wage war against everyone. Like honestly, this should have been the best game to become a Raider, but I don't even think there's a single mention of enslaving a person; just about the damn Synths, which focuses on the moral dilemma of do you even consider this man-made thing, who are initially designed to be spies and ultimately murder all humans, to be a human or not, versus the obvious decision of enslaving a human being.
parrotheada1a Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 I have a couple for the pot. And I need to preface this because I live in the Commonwealth IRL, so I know the area very well. First off... topography. There are no mountains surrounding Boston. Rolling hills yes. The closest mountain range is the Whites up in New Hampshire, over 100 miles away. One thing that they did get right was the swampy areas, although I wish they would have put some marshland down along the coast. IRL, all along the north shore, from roughly Cape Ann north to Maine are strips of marshland surrounding coastal rivers, inlets, and small islands. Think Point Lookout from FO3. Next, is that Beth seemed to ignore what modders built to enhance their previous titles. Bodies/ faces/ hair....etc all pretty much looked meh. I woulda bet that they could have contracted some of that work out to a couple talented modders and had a better looking variety of stuff out of the gate. Next up is how jobs get broken. Case in point for my game, I hadn't even gotten into Concord yet, let alone met the Minutemen when I got a sidequest to help defend a settlement way down south of Sanctuary. I'm thinking, okay.... how do they even know I am alive? So I make my way down there, meet my contact. I get sent to a spot I had found on my own. Clear out some ghouls and secure the workshop. So I do all that, and even though I opened the workshop, the game didn't update the log to indicate I'd finished the job. There have been other ones that got broken in other plays, but I think you get the idea.
Foreign Eclipse69 Posted September 2, 2016 Posted September 2, 2016 How have to reload all five rounds into the level action rifle no matter how many you actually shot.
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