Paradise Halls - Home Sweet Home (SE/LE)

[Code Serpent]

Done! Next version likely coming this week. Still trying to nail down the issue with sex training...

Are you still having issues with the next version?

[Musje]

Issue is still unresolved

 

You can use most versions of Paradise Halls with the Sexlab extension, but I recommend to go with PAHE 6.2.1 at the least

[interfaz]

Great mod ! But i have some issues. Can someone help me please ?

 

-When i say keep company me and then i sit somewhere , slave just standing and nothing happens. No dance animations ( Am i need to download any dance animations or mod ? )

-When i say punish that slave! they are just standing again .

-Take of your clothes option doesn't work. (Not much important^^)

 

And the most important thing is trainer and trainee just hanging around together x) They are doing nothing.

[Musje]

No need to download dance animations. The latest version should have fixed the no dancing issue, are you sure you have that?

 

The punish option may not work if you did not place any torture equipment and / or wall markers (from the cell menu). Try that

 

Trainer and trainee should do fun stuff on their own when you tell tbe trainer to "make yourself useful"

 

If that doesn't help, then check your load order with LOOT

[interfaz]

No need to download dance animations. The latest version should have fixed the no dancing issue, are you sure you have that?

 

The punish option may not work if you did not place any torture equipment and / or wall markers (from the cell menu). Try that

 

Trainer and trainee should do fun stuff on their own when you tell tbe trainer to "make yourself useful"

 

If that doesn't help, then check your load order with LOOT

 

I have last version of pahe and v0.97 of HSH. I'm downloading v0.99 now .

Trainer automatically takes whip and i thought its enough.

I'm already using LOOT and i can't see any problem for now :/  Thanks .

 

 

Edit: Everything is working well now except dance animations ^^ ...

[azsxdcf]

First, thanks for mod! this is exact what I wanted and was actually much more than that.

 

bug report: 1.as above poster says, dance dont work for me too.

2. "you are going to wear that from now on"(or something like that) works well, except nipple piercings.

 

requests: 1.more variety of furniture to be placed(I think crux and horse without attached yoke would be nice).  2.more restraint with struggle.(ex.ropes, chain get on your knee, cell Xcross)  and sorta combo of 1 and 2, more furniture struggles I have no idea whether its handled by your side or zaz pack. but summoned Xcross wont make struggle like cell Xcross restraint. maybe problem of my side?

 

sorry for bad English, and please keep good work going!

 

EDIT: using pahe6.22 and hsh0.99.

[CliftonJD]

First, thanks for mod! this is exact what I wanted and was actually much more than that.

 

bug report: 1.as above poster says, dance dont work for me too.

2. "you are going to wear that from now on"(or something like that) works well, except nipple piercings.

 

requests: 1.more variety of furniture to be placed(I think crux and horse without attached yoke would be nice).  2.more restraint with struggle.(ex.ropes, chain get on your knee, cell Xcross)  and sorta combo of 1 and 2, more furniture struggles I have no idea whether its handled by your side or zaz pack. but summoned Xcross wont make struggle like cell Xcross restraint. maybe problem of my side?

 

sorry for bad English, and please keep good work going!

 

EDIT: using pahe6.22 and hsh0.99.

for the nipple piercings- if that's devious devices, you may need to test your meshes on the player and follower first - not all bodyslide packs are current with the latest devious devices and/or compatible with all body types

 

[Leo77]

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

[azsxdcf]

 

First, thanks for mod! this is exact what I wanted and was actually much more than that.

 

bug report: 1.as above poster says, dance dont work for me too.

2. "you are going to wear that from now on"(or something like that) works well, except nipple piercings.

 

requests: 1.more variety of furniture to be placed(I think crux and horse without attached yoke would be nice).  2.more restraint with struggle.(ex.ropes, chain get on your knee, cell Xcross)  and sorta combo of 1 and 2, more furniture struggles I have no idea whether its handled by your side or zaz pack. but summoned Xcross wont make struggle like cell Xcross restraint. maybe problem of my side?

 

sorry for bad English, and please keep good work going!

 

EDIT: using pahe6.22 and hsh0.99.

for the nipple piercings- if that's devious devices, you may need to test your meshes on the player and follower first - not all bodyslide packs are current with the latest devious devices and/or compatible with all body types

 

 

 

Sorry for lack of definition. I meant "remember cloth" function at bottom of dialogue list(at least for me). piercing themselves works fine.

when I reload or reenter "home cell area" , other pieces will be worn gradually. except nipple piercings. using DD and heretic resources for nipple piercings and both acts in same manner.

BTW, thank you for pahe!

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

 

First, thanks for mod! this is exact what I wanted and was actually much more than that.

 

bug report: 1.as above poster says, dance dont work for me too.

2. "you are going to wear that from now on"(or something like that) works well, except nipple piercings.

 

requests: 1.more variety of furniture to be placed(I think crux and horse without attached yoke would be nice).  2.more restraint with struggle.(ex.ropes, chain get on your knee, cell Xcross)  and sorta combo of 1 and 2, more furniture struggles I have no idea whether its handled by your side or zaz pack. but summoned Xcross wont make struggle like cell Xcross restraint. maybe problem of my side?

 

sorry for bad English, and please keep good work going!

 

EDIT: using pahe6.22 and hsh0.99.

for the nipple piercings- if that's devious devices, you may need to test your meshes on the player and follower first - not all bodyslide packs are current with the latest devious devices and/or compatible with all body types

 

 

 

 

Sorry for lack of definition. I meant "remember cloth" function at bottom of dialogue list(at least for me). piercing themselves works fine.

when I reload or reenter "home cell area" , other pieces will be worn gradually. except nipple piercings. using DD and heretic resources for nipple piercings and both acts in same manner.

BTW, thank you for pahe!

 

ahh, see that's different and likely shouldn't even be used on devious devices - they have their own locking scripts to perform those functions

if you're having issues with the devious devices, rather than attempting to get home sweet home to fix those - use a barrel to reset the bugged items with any dd items you're holding

 

next check the devious devices mcm - listed under events and effects - number of npc's slotted - by default that's still 0 - increase it, look around the room at how many slaves and how many followers using devious devices and add those together for a minimum number

 

if the slave is wearing anything that conflicts with the slot ( non-vanilla armor packs sometimes use those slots) remove those before putting the piercings back on the slave

[fred200]

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

[CliftonJD]

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

well, that's part of the enslavement process - nothing to do with home sweet home

also part of the punishment system if you punished the slaves along the way here

 

[fred200]

 

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

well, that's part of the enslavement process - nothing to do with home sweet home

also part of the punishment system if you punished the slaves along the way here

 

 

Feel free to give us that reward system in PAHE. We just need a little Stockholm Syndrome loving here.

I for one would feel safer around slaves who did not want me dead.

[Leo77]

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

 

Yes, i'm well aware that she hates my guts, but if she's able to be respectful while following me around, why can't she be respectful while sitting at home?

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

 

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

well, that's part of the enslavement process - nothing to do with home sweet home

also part of the punishment system if you punished the slaves along the way here

 

 

 

Feel free to give us that reward system in PAHE. We just need a little Stockholm Syndrome loving here.

I for one would feel safer around slaves who did not want me dead.

 

 

stockholm syndrome comes when the slave is trained with the player, not put away in a home

i don't recall ever hearing the slave want me dead in pahe, sounds like respectful dialogs have been replaced by more hateful dialogs in home sweet home

 

 

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

 

 

Yes, i'm well aware that she hates my guts, but if she's able to be respectful while following me around, why can't she be respectful while sitting at home?

 

that i'd agree with, upto musje to provide respectful dialogs from pahe

[fred200]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

well, that's part of the enslavement process - nothing to do with home sweet home

also part of the punishment system if you punished the slaves along the way here

 

 

 

Feel free to give us that reward system in PAHE. We just need a little Stockholm Syndrome loving here.

I for one would feel safer around slaves who did not want me dead.

 

 

stockholm syndrome comes when the slave is trained with the player, not put away in a home

i don't recall ever hearing the slave want me dead in pahe, sounds like respectful dialogs have been replaced by more hateful dialogs in home sweet home

 

 

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

 

 

Yes, i'm well aware that she hates my guts, but if she's able to be respectful while following me around, why can't she be respectful while sitting at home?

 

that i'd agree with, upto musje to provide respectful dialogs from pahe

 

 

The responses we are getting are vanilla Skyrim dialog for relationship rank = -4: Archnemesis.

Bump that up - through any means - and the responses get better. Try setting it to +4, for example.

 

[azsxdcf]

 

 

 

 

 

First, thanks for mod! this is exact what I wanted and was actually much more than that.

 

bug report: 1.as above poster says, dance dont work for me too.

2. "you are going to wear that from now on"(or something like that) works well, except nipple piercings.

 

requests: 1.more variety of furniture to be placed(I think crux and horse without attached yoke would be nice).  2.more restraint with struggle.(ex.ropes, chain get on your knee, cell Xcross)  and sorta combo of 1 and 2, more furniture struggles I have no idea whether its handled by your side or zaz pack. but summoned Xcross wont make struggle like cell Xcross restraint. maybe problem of my side?

 

sorry for bad English, and please keep good work going!

 

EDIT: using pahe6.22 and hsh0.99.

for the nipple piercings- if that's devious devices, you may need to test your meshes on the player and follower first - not all bodyslide packs are current with the latest devious devices and/or compatible with all body types

 

 

 

 

Sorry for lack of definition. I meant "remember cloth" function at bottom of dialogue list(at least for me). piercing themselves works fine.

when I reload or reenter "home cell area" , other pieces will be worn gradually. except nipple piercings. using DD and heretic resources for nipple piercings and both acts in same manner.

BTW, thank you for pahe!

 

ahh, see that's different and likely shouldn't even be used on devious devices - they have their own locking scripts to perform those functions

if you're having issues with the devious devices, rather than attempting to get home sweet home to fix those - use a barrel to reset the bugged items with any dd items you're holding

 

next check the devious devices mcm - listed under events and effects - number of npc's slotted - by default that's still 0 - increase it, look around the room at how many slaves and how many followers using devious devices and add those together for a minimum number

 

if the slave is wearing anything that conflicts with the slot ( non-vanilla armor packs sometimes use those slots) remove those before putting the piercings back on the slave

 

just ran short testing with new game. get slave in house and give her piercings. with/without "remember" function. leave and enter.

pierce disappear(unequipped) in both case. I think its not slot issue- all items appears correctly when they are under pahe control and it also happens on otherwise naked slave. about dd mcm I'm sure its okay now and then.

 

does anyone also tried dd&hsh? having same issue?

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can train your slave to respectfully adress you, but when i drop off such a slave in a home cell she instantly forgets all of that and curses me five generations back. Is there any way for them to keep the way they adress you?

 

We need the mod author to set up a reward system to increase slave affection.

Check your slave's affection in the console: target them and "getrelationshiprank player".

You will find your slave really and truly hates you.

 

well, that's part of the enslavement process - nothing to do with home sweet home

also part of the punishment system if you punished the slaves along the way here

 

 

 

Feel free to give us that reward system in PAHE. We just need a little Stockholm Syndrome loving here.

I for one would feel safer around slaves who did not want me dead.

 

 

stockholm syndrome comes when the slave is trained with the player, not put away in a home

i don't recall ever hearing the slave want me dead in pahe, sounds like respectful dialogs have been replaced by more hateful dialogs in home sweet home

 

 

 

The responses we are getting are vanilla Skyrim dialog for relationship rank = -4: Archnemesis.

Bump that up - through any means - and the responses get better. Try setting it to +4, for example.

 

well, that makes sense then as i said that's part of the punishment system - first you enslaved them and gained a -2, then you either beat them or you raped them - beatings have their default skyrim values for relationship ranks and rapes have have negative impact on the slave

 

if/when you train them thru pahe rather than home sweet home, the slave gets the stockholm syndrome later on, after enough sex it gets consensual - positive relationship is only gained thru consensual sex

 

additional notes, if you only fucked the slave when you're punishing her for wrong-doing such as running away or being disrespectful - different conditions applied for which the consensual sex dialogs will be applied and relationship earned with your slave...always time to fuck them later after you build a relationship

Edited September 17, 2016 by CliftonJD

[Leo77]

 

The responses we are getting are vanilla Skyrim dialog for relationship rank = -4: Archnemesis.

Bump that up - through any means - and the responses get better. Try setting it to +4, for example.

 

Still, a slave being all lovey dovey is quite stockholm syndrome-y, i do think using the dialogue from pahe would be preferable if at all possible.

[fred200]

CliftonJD - glad to hear consensual sex raises the relationship rank.

My problem is I would not recognize a consensual sex dialog if it bit me - which dialogs are consensual?

Any idea how many times it takes to raise one relationship rank?

 

[Musje]

Thus far HSH doesn't do anything with the relationship rank. I'll see if I can carry over a meaningful value from PAHE or else provide a means (training, or respectfulness level) to improve it.

 

I'll also look into the piercing problem. Maybe it's in a slot not handled by the mod

[CliftonJD]

CliftonJD - glad to hear consensual sex raises the relationship rank.

My problem is I would not recognize a consensual sex dialog if it bit me - which dialogs are consensual?

Any idea how many times it takes to raise one relationship rank?

 

as far as i know it should raise the relationship rank everytime after you've reached positive values and it seems after going thru those dialogs to make these screenshots - the consensus is that slaves will consent more when they're afraid

 

here's some screenshots of the available dialogs and the conditions to get them

• responses are the dialog links -the dialog is in the parenthesis from there
• for the conditions a comparison value of 0 means false - the photo names have summarized those conditions - easier to explain from the file name than as posted screenshot images

sex topics.zip

[fred200]

 

CliftonJD - glad to hear consensual sex raises the relationship rank.

My problem is I would not recognize a consensual sex dialog if it bit me - which dialogs are consensual?

Any idea how many times it takes to raise one relationship rank?

 

as far as i know it should raise the relationship rank everytime after you've reached positive values and it seems after going thru those dialogs to make these screenshots - the consensus is that slaves will consent more when they're afraid

 

here's some screenshots of the available dialogs and the conditions to get them

• responses are the dialog links -the dialog is in the parenthesis from there
• for the conditions a comparison value of 0 means false - the photo names have summarized those conditions - easier to explain from the file name than as posted screenshot images

 

 

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you. (That makes less sense if I got the gender wrong - but the sentiment is there)

I will have fun testing some of this.

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

 

CliftonJD - glad to hear consensual sex raises the relationship rank.

My problem is I would not recognize a consensual sex dialog if it bit me - which dialogs are consensual?

Any idea how many times it takes to raise one relationship rank?

 

as far as i know it should raise the relationship rank everytime after you've reached positive values and it seems after going thru those dialogs to make these screenshots - the consensus is that slaves will consent more when they're afraid

 

here's some screenshots of the available dialogs and the conditions to get them

• responses are the dialog links -the dialog is in the parenthesis from there
• for the conditions a comparison value of 0 means false - the photo names have summarized those conditions - easier to explain from the file name than as posted screenshot images

 

 

 

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you. (That makes less sense if I got the gender wrong - but the sentiment is there)

I will have fun testing some of this.

 

 

 

[fred200]

 

 

 

 

 

CliftonJD - glad to hear consensual sex raises the relationship rank.

My problem is I would not recognize a consensual sex dialog if it bit me - which dialogs are consensual?

Any idea how many times it takes to raise one relationship rank?

 

as far as i know it should raise the relationship rank everytime after you've reached positive values and it seems after going thru those dialogs to make these screenshots - the consensus is that slaves will consent more when they're afraid

 

here's some screenshots of the available dialogs and the conditions to get them

• responses are the dialog links -the dialog is in the parenthesis from there
• for the conditions a comparison value of 0 means false - the photo names have summarized those conditions - easier to explain from the file name than as posted screenshot images

 

 

 

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you. (That makes less sense if I got the gender wrong - but the sentiment is there)

I will have fun testing some of this.

 

 

I am satisfied. I took a new slave (Julienne) and worked her from relationshiprank -4 to relationshiprank +4/.

All it took was diligence, perseverance, and a lot of consensual sex.

Now her force greets are those of a lover - much better.

Thanks again!