Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 For those who have not been following the conversation in Steam, it seems that they are now enforcing the policy for banning peoples from linking directly to LoversLab. I think it would be fair to note in here as well, so that peoples would understand why Steam forum regulars can no longer provide direct support to LL mods from there. Most peoples may understand that, but new(?) moderation seems to object linking to some of Nexus mods as well. Global moderators did not seem to care, if peoples linked to directly to files like CBBE, but peoples now moderating all Bethesda games in Steam have taken an more strict stand. The conversation started from this thread. First two pages are more of a discussion about person who got banned from a simple joke. It goes to policy conversation from there. Moderator conforms that linking to LoversLab will cause a ban from now on, in reply #110. He also replied later to some of questions presented by forum regulars (#120 and #132). In a further reply moderator presents his intent to request Valve to censor LoversLab links automatically from Steam, to prevent pointless bans. We do not yet know if this is going to happen. And linking to porn is worth a perm ban. I have asked Valve to censor the website so you cannot post it on the forums (so those that do post it will have it censored so they do not get banned and so on when they didn't know they weren't supposed to be doing it anyway). http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/451850849181799131/
Yuni Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I have a question. What if someone uses a tinyurl so it's not a direct link, but a redirected one?
Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 I have a question. What if someone uses a tinyurl so it's not a direct link, but a redirected one? I have absolutely no idea how good Steam servers are to pick that up. I do not think that anyone came to ponder that possibility in the conversation.
Caffeine Addict Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I am glad I am posting as much on Steam as I am posting on the Nexus, meaning Zilch Hate to have to tiptoe around all the red tapes in those forums!
ToJKa Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Well, Steam has never allowed porn, never would have imagined them doing anything else.
RapidWaterOver Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I am glad I am posting as much on Steam as I am posting on the Nexus, meaning Zilch Hate to have to tiptoe around all the red tapes in those forums! We need more "regular" mods to compete with Nexus, otherwise everyone keeps thinking that this site is just a huge brothel for kinks and fetishes. I mean it sort of is, but there are other non-adult mods here that not even people that go to this site apparently are aware of.
Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 I am glad I am posting as much on Steam as I am posting on the Nexus, meaning Zilch Hate to have to tiptoe around all the red tapes in those forums! It was not like this before. It may cool down, after now active moderators have got change to show their "strength." Steam Skyrim forum has been famous (or rather infamous) for being unmoderated. Forum regulars have been keeping order around there, without resorting to usual self centered tricks as we have witnessed from other similar sites. As written in the thread that I linked, having and adult voice in the forum has made a difference. Some of these guys are between 35-70 years of age and playing well together. They have managed to avoid forum sinking in to it's previous state with good humor and more mature responses to snotty replies. They are also busy creating new support threads and guides - although at least some of body mod tutorials are now getting cleaned up after moderator parked there. It is kind of sad, if the new found moderator activity would kill that. Moderator just banned few peoples, who have been around the forum for a long time. I admit that they were kind of spamming the thread that got locked, but peoples in that forum have used of having more space around them and occasionally doing some silly things. Global moderators do not care - they had left the forum in hands of it's current group regulars and only came down to see what was going on, if they contacted them directly. But, the main case here was indeed the LL ban and that is not going to lift. It is true that Steam never allowed adult content directly, but they haven't previously shared banns in such vigorous manner than these guys (apparently now guarding over all Bethesda game forums there) are doing.
ToJKa Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 We need more "regular" mods to compete with Nexus, otherwise everyone keeps thinking that this site is just a huge brothel for kinks and fetishes. ...This isn't? That's all i'm here for
Caffeine Addict Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 -snip- That might all be true about Steam not allowing linking to adult content, but I think a perm ban on a first strike is just a bit over the top.
Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 -snip- That might all be true about Steam not allowing linking to adult content, but I think a perm ban on a first strike is just a bit over the top. I strongly agree. Conversation is still going on and reply #156 is making a strong case for this point of view.
Guest endgameaddiction Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 bait n switch. Nexus finally allows LL on the whitelist and now steam adds us to the blacklist. To me, they both can add us to the blacklist. All the merrier. We have done fine for ourselves on our own and have proven time and time again what a community that works together looks like. We don't need to drop to one knee to no one to become "approved". I have no doubt in my mind that we will be back on the blacklist on Nexus not far from now, but only time will tell.
myuhinny Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Well since nexus has removed us from their blocked list it's only natural that the other one would block us now instead one probably got with the other saying we are removing them from our blocked list now you have to block them now instead. Steam isn't adult free it has a nudity and sexual content on their site. Written in the Sky is a example it is a visual novel it has nudity the person you control will later boinks another person it's a free game and also has a badge. Looks like I'll have to do the same thing I do on the nexus go there subscribe to mod grab and zip files unsubscribe mod and then leave. Not that I really do anything but go there get mod and leave anyway and I rarely talk anywhere on steam either.
Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Well since nexus has removed us from their blocked list it's only natural that the other one would block us now instead one probably got with the other saying we are removing them from our blocked list now you have to block them now instead. Steam isn't adult free it has a nudity and sexual content on their site. Written in the Sky is a example it is a visual novel it has nudity the person you control will later boinks another person it's a free game and also has a badge. Looks like I'll have to do the same thing I do on the nexus go there subscribe to mod grab and zip files unsubscribe mod and then leave. Not that I really do anything but go there get mod and leave anyway and I rarely talk anywhere on steam either. Well, you are welcome to talk. Guys are quite nice and I am also there - although with a different user name. Forum is probably among best places to solve bugs and problems from the game. Just not for LL mods from now on. By the way, staying subscribed to Workshop mods would not be a smart move anyway. The damn thing has been broken almost a year now. It seems that there are very little than players themselves can do about it. It is up to Valve and Bethesda to fix it, but neither seems interested. It was kind of a factor during last spring paid mod ruckus. Peoples got quite riled up that they did not fix the Workshop, but still used it as a platform for paid mods. Just a note, no reason to travel there anymore. The state of Workshop has been followed in this thread. I noticed it got updated today, after more peoples came in to forums and complained about the problem. http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/611701360834184285/
RapidWaterOver Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Well since nexus has removed us from their blocked list it's only natural that the other one would block us now instead one probably got with the other saying we are removing them from our blocked list now you have to block them now instead. Steam isn't adult free it has a nudity and sexual content on their site. Written in the Sky is a example it is a visual novel it has nudity the person you control will later boinks another person it's a free game and also has a badge. Looks like I'll have to do the same thing I do on the nexus go there subscribe to mod grab and zip files unsubscribe mod and then leave. Not that I really do anything but go there get mod and leave anyway and I rarely talk anywhere on steam either. I was going to say this. This may be paranoid thinking, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nexus and Steam aren't doing some shady business under the table.
Kaz Aanh Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 But ya know, secks is very bad for minors its not okay to see bare titehs. But gifting CoD Blacko Mopsu 5 is okayy, murdering is okayy, animal abuse is okayy , corruptions is okayy ,gore is okayy . Its not like now a 14 yo knows more about the sex live than I knew when I was younger, even yo 16yo are gettin pregnant and kids are being father at age 18yo. Shit is depressing. Even though Skyrim is rated 18+ pegi.
myuhinny Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I don't go there that much and when they had that paid mod BS I adblocked anything dealing with paids mods so I saw none of it when I went there as all of the paid mods links pictures and what not were blocked. If I need help I'll ask here why go there and have to tip toe through the tulips when I can ask here and stomp through the tulips instead. I hate wondering if this is safe or that when posting something or having to deal with some pmsy moderator.
DoctaSax Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Don't take it too personally, guys - we at LL HQ certainly don't. It's no skin off our backs that steam users can't link to our cool stuff without a ban hanging over their heads - just too bad for them, I guess. LL continues to allow being mentioned and linked to, as always.
Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Don't take it too personally, guys - we at LL HQ certainly don't. It's no skin off our backs that steam users can't link to our cool stuff without a ban hanging over their heads - just too bad for them, I guess. LL continues to allow being mentioned and linked to, as always. Judging from comments and chat, several of us are here already. This will likely mean that portion of peoples from Steam are going to move some of their conversations to LL, or make entirely another forum to get out of the banhammer's way.
Caffeine Addict Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Don't take it too personally, guys - we at LL HQ certainly don't. It's no skin off our backs that steam users can't link to our cool stuff without a ban hanging over their heads - just too bad for them, I guess. LL continues to allow being mentioned and linked to, as always. I do not take it personally, it is just good to know that one mentioning can get you a perma ban. Like I said, I do not post there anyways The real question is: Can we mention and link to Steam on LL without getting banned by LL staff?
Sural Argonus Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 *eyeroll* Glad I don't hang out on there. Almost tempted to go on a LL Link Spam posting rampage just to see how long it takes me to get hit with the ban hammer. haha
DoctaSax Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Can we mention and link to Steam on LL without getting banned by LL staff? Insta-perma-ultrabanned!
PsychoMachina Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 The real question is: Can we mention and link to Steam on LL without getting banned by LL staff? You won't get banned, but you will get strapped down and subject to lap-dances by Gert, LoversLab's resident stripper.
Morferous Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Well, I will camp in to some corner of Steam then, seeing that I am the only one sharing those links around here. Seriously, my games would have rendered themselves to dust long ago, if those guys in the forum would not be so happy to help. I keep annoying them with my questions, but I never hear a grumpy word from them.Though I did learn today that one of them is not actually a gnome, but a wicked halfling, who takes monthly moonlight baths in a bucket.Nah. I am not going anywhere. I am sticking here and walking with light steps around Steam moderators.
Guest Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I just seem to be here more often than over there lately. I also hear ya "my games would have rendered themselves to dust long ago", most of what I use are LL based mods.
LidiaSun Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 First please forgive me for any mistakes in the english language even the one of my birth languages living so many years hearing the other one makes you doing mistakes. What I have seen almost 1 year now in LL site is really wonderful. The kindness of the most people here is an example for many other site. I have long ceased to think that you do not have to say your opinion or be embarrassed to say it to the others, I can't and nor I will tolerate hypocritical people who blame others for their sexual intentions, ideas or preferences trying to enforce their sick views about their pure morality. Hypocrisy is when they find as black sheep whatever has to do about sex, when the same moment they accept necromancy, rapes and murders and what ever is included in today games which companies offer to the public. Hypocrisy that they are concern about sexuality but not for the rest . Of course it is easy victim the sex subject and many times is used to misguide others attention from everything else which is provided. Sex is a theme to ban but not murder. Steam is trying to control the electronic distribution on games and every now and then they try a new step towards this goal, with the help of other companies perhaps either with Nexus or Bethesda or anyone else. Trying to show that in their distribution the morality is high and pure not sex involved only a thousand murders. Sorry to say but the world has much bigger problems to deal with, than to criticize what the others fantasy is imagining or what anyone is doing in their bedrooms or what they play on their computers. If they consider sex worse than the murder which is included in most of the games then they need absolutely psychiatric although the most famous psychoanalyst consider those who criticize the forms of sex that they have the biggest passions and problems. Love and the following step sex is Life so I wonder how anyone can silence the expression of such matter or how anyone is trying to control any art form about this. Do not kid yourself art is the creation of a mod either is a quest either creating a character etc. Art which almost in anyway you can see and come across in the larger museums around the world. It is really sad that people are trying to silence freedom of speech and the expression of art. It is sad when someones trying to force to the others what they should do. After all this I'm sorry if I made you tired and I hope and wish LL to be the lighthouse for culture and expression, a heaven Oasis of ideas and to move dynamically forward as credible site with content for adults.
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