Sacremas Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 still would appreciate anyone's help. would really like to use this mod but my game becomes unstable anytime i put it in my game with significant fps drops and hiccups especially around several or more npc's like a large battle but also in the city with not much going on i still get hiccups here and there, removing it solves the issue. i installed it using mod organizer and followed the steps exaclty and installed all requirements. Thing is this mod relies heavily on HDT and applies HDT to all NPCs, and HDT goes directly to your processor and is more demanding than anything you could ever do to Skyrim in that regards. So if you do not have a decently powerful processor, yes that is the result. I have a i5-2500k processor and it handles this just fine.
Naked Ekans Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 @jimmywon34 Yeah, I was about to say it may be your processor. Usually I edit the xml using the JFF tool to remove the belly bounce, since I don't see much use for it during gameplay, and sometimes belly piercings behave strange, deforming the belly and clipping the back of the character. Talking about issues, do I need to do something for this mod to work with Floppy SOS? I'm using the UUNP option and when I activate floppy the schlong and balls start to jump all around. (I'm using the SOS UNP addon and HD meshes from EvilReFlex bodyslide preset)
headfullofdread Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 I'm still trying to get clothed physics to work, I started a separate thread to save cluttering up this thread. Remolded armor for uunp hdt didn't work for me. Edit Gamefever's mod IS still up just wasn't showing on his page linked in faq...
jimmywon34 Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 still would appreciate anyone's help. would really like to use this mod but my game becomes unstable anytime i put it in my game with significant fps drops and hiccups especially around several or more npc's like a large battle but also in the city with not much going on i still get hiccups here and there, removing it solves the issue. i installed it using mod organizer and followed the steps exaclty and installed all requirements. Thing is this mod relies heavily on HDT and applies HDT to all NPCs, and HDT goes directly to your processor and is more demanding than anything you could ever do to Skyrim in that regards. So if you do not have a decently powerful processor, yes that is the result. I have a i5-2500k processor and it handles this just fine. That's what i've read in forums but i have an i5 4690k so i think i'm in about the same spot as you as far as processor goes? @jimmywon34 Yeah, I was about to say it may be your processor. Usually I edit the xml using the JFF tool to remove the belly bounce, since I don't see much use for it during gameplay, and sometimes belly piercings behave strange, deforming the belly and clipping the back of the character. Talking about issues, do I need to do something for this mod to work with Floppy SOS? I'm using the UUNP option and when I activate floppy the schlong and balls start to jump all around. (I'm using the SOS UNP addon and HD meshes from EvilReFlex bodyslide preset) I'm on a i5 4690k. Just to confirm do you get fps dips hard stutters and hiccups with this installed and what processor if so?
sugarpal Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 No matter what I try, any options, still getting seams. I finally figured out I have to zip my screenshot to show it here, but got it to upload for others to take a look. Any help would be much appreciated. Nothing is overwriting the Allinone mod. ScreenShot133.rar
begalund Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 Once again, I must give a most hearty Thank You!! to our most esteemed author for all of the hard work, attention to detail, dedicated response to the fans that has been put in. This is something amazing! I need to spend way too much time adjusting all of the actors to get everyone properly lined up for each possible scene, but everything is finally working with no missing textures. At least as far as the base races are concerned. (the damn temptress armors refuse to show up in bodyslide, and I can't seem to get better vampires to talk with any of the custom races without banging my head against a brick wall for 3 or 4 hours - even though I've fixed the problem multiple times in the past...). I'd also like to give a shout out to Sacremas, whose modding guide is the first one that actually got an ENB properly working on my system without stuttering - and my god is it pretty now! Pretty enough in fact that when I started up a default game by "camping in the woods" just for testing purposes I actually had no idea where the hell I was. Now I just need to see how it looks with a fairly large fight happening. So again, thanks. I'm going to go disappear for a while while I lose myself in this game once again.
pringles89 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =(
sfeile Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 No matter what I try, any options, still getting seams. I finally figured out I have to zip my screenshot to show it here, but got it to upload for others to take a look. Any help would be much appreciated. Nothing is overwriting the Allinone mod. Just out of curiosity, do you have fem feet or better hands installed? I had the same problem, and it ended up being my "improved" hand and feet textures. Neither showed in MO as overwriting, but as soon as I removed them my issue was gone.
sfeile Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =( I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now.
sfeile Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 HeroedeLeyenda, thank you for your work! I really like it and it works great for me. Have one small issue, but not sure if it is completely related to this mod or not. As stated, it works great for me. However, when I installed it on my spouse's pc, the skin texture is mismatched. We are using the cbbe version with the COS body, but in hers the skin shows like unp. (nipple textures not matching the body etc...) Tried multiple versions of textures,but all the same. I downloaded a completely different skin and installed below this mod in MO so it overwrote, and it shows up as it should except it is obviously missing the vagina texturing. Any recommendation of what files I could try manually dropping and where to see if it is just an install issue?
pringles89 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now. thanks for the heads up. i had not considered the skeleton, but i do still have an outdated version in MO that was installed originally about same time as v2. i'll do some additional testing.
Jinroh Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 Can someone PM me a link to the Vivace follower? I can provide one via pm to Chaconne, if someone needs her, don't have any of the others.
jimmywon34 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =( I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now. This mod comes with the skeleton installed though as of version 3.2 I am getting fps dips too and i have the skeleton's from this mod, i don't think they can be outdated? it says it's xpmse version 3.73 one of the newer versions.
heat2008 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 This mod all but destroys my FPS. Not sure why though. I thought it was the 4k textures so I went with the 2k ones, still killed my FPS. I know it's def this mod tho as everything went back to normal when I removed it. I'll probably just dig in and pull out the xml files or whatever else I'd like to use.
HeroedeLeyenda Posted February 3, 2016 Author Posted February 3, 2016 All your problems with low FPS is because skeleton. Install the last one HDT (Maximum Skeleton Extended) not normal XP32 one. My PC Specs are (8 year old PC): Asus P5Q-E Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz 2x2Gb DDR2 Geil Evoone Gaming CL4 SSD Samsung Evo 850 250Gb Gigabyte GTX 670 2Gb GDDR5 And I can run game perfect at 60FPS on interiors and 30-45 on Landscape and Cities. I have Bleak ENB and a lot of 4K and 8K graphic mods, I will put a list later when I come back home from study. Have a nice day!
heat2008 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 All your problems with low FPS is because skeleton. Install the last one HDT (Maximum Skeleton Extended) not normal XP32 one. My PC Specs are (8 year old PC): Asus P5Q-E Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz 2x2Gb DDR2 Geil Evoone Gaming CL4 SSD Samsung Evo 850 250Gb Gigabyte GTX 670 2Gb GDDR5 And I can run game perfect at 60FPS on interiors and 30-45 on Landscape and Cities. I have Bleak ENB and a lot of 4K and 8K graphic mods, I will put a list later when I come back home from study. Have a nice day! I'll try that and see if it works. I assumed, should probably stop making assumptions, that the XP32 skele that I had would be fine. Will update you shortly.
jimmywon34 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 All your problems with low FPS is because skeleton. Install the last one HDT (Maximum Skeleton Extended) not normal XP32 one. My PC Specs are (8 year old PC): Asus P5Q-E Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz 2x2Gb DDR2 Geil Evoone Gaming CL4 SSD Samsung Evo 850 250Gb Gigabyte GTX 670 2Gb GDDR5 And I can run game perfect at 60FPS on interiors and 30-45 on Landscape and Cities. I have Bleak ENB and a lot of 4K and 8K graphic mods, I will put a list later when I come back home from study. Have a nice day! I have tried installing the latest Xp maximum skeleton, i believe version 3.75, and not installing the skeleton included in 'all in one animated pussy' but still get the dips in performance, i choose the hdt rig map upon installing the skeleton and when running fnis checkmark skeleton arm fix and gender patches. Mod organizer tells me absolutely nothing is overwriting All in one animated pussy and i use loot to sort plug-ins. Also running a i5 4690k and a 980ti with 16gb ram @2400hz and 1000watt PSU. I am at a total loss, have been for months because the dips start in my game as soon as i install body/hdt/skeleton mods and all their requirements, not just with your mod but other bodies and other versions of skeletons too, even though i would really like to get this one working because it is the best i have seen to date.
heat2008 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 Installed the skele that came with the mod and FPS is back to normal. Thanks for the quick response.
Shubal Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =( I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now. This mod comes with the skeleton installed though as of version 3.2 I am getting fps dips too and i have the skeleton's from this mod, i don't think they can be outdated? it says it's xpmse version 3.73 one of the newer versions. You should check the mesh files for any follower mods you have. Some come with their own skeletons and will not be replaced by this mod. They need to be changed manually, also the skeleton of children must be replaced with a child xpmse skeleton to avoid FPS hits.
nappilydeestruction Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 Hey Heroeslayenda, Knightmare updated his bounce kit and Maevan updated her skin textures I just wanted to let you know just in case if you wanna update in the future Also Demoniac is updated to 1.1, in case you didn't know that either
jimmywon34 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =( I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now. This mod comes with the skeleton installed though as of version 3.2 I am getting fps dips too and i have the skeleton's from this mod, i don't think they can be outdated? it says it's xpmse version 3.73 one of the newer versions. You should check the mesh files for any follower mods you have. Some come with their own skeletons and will not be replaced by this mod. They need to be changed manually, also the skeleton of children must be replaced with a child xpmse skeleton to avoid FPS hits. Thanks but I'm aware of that I am currently starting a new game and don't have any follower mods installed yet, don't have any children mods in yet either.
Trigon Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =( I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now. This mod comes with the skeleton installed though as of version 3.2 I am getting fps dips too and i have the skeleton's from this mod, i don't think they can be outdated? it says it's xpmse version 3.73 one of the newer versions. You should check the mesh files for any follower mods you have. Some come with their own skeletons and will not be replaced by this mod. They need to be changed manually, also the skeleton of children must be replaced with a child xpmse skeleton to avoid FPS hits. Thanks but I'm aware of that I am currently starting a new game and don't have any follower mods installed yet, don't have any children mods in yet either. After playing the game and experiencing a frame rate drop, could you take a look at your HDT log? It's found here in your Data folder(or the Data tab if you use Mod Organizer): SKSE/plugins/hdtPhysicsExtensions.log If it is spamming a lot of Warnings/Errors such as "WARNING: Cannot bind bone : NPC Belly - bone doesn't exist" or "ERROR: Illegal hkx file : NPC Belly - Fixed/Keyframed body without binding!" or anything similar, you definitely have a skeleton problem somewhere. If your HDT log has no errors or warnings whatsoever, we may have to look elsewhere for a solution.
jimmywon34 Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 I started having fps drop down to almost zero last night also when using 3.2 with 4k uunp textures, and I have an i7 6700-k cpu. this is even with ENB turned off. i also tried downgrading to 2k textures with 3.2 but that did not seem to help. i did notice that memory usage is at about ~2GB used between skyrim and enbhost, which does seem a bit high. fps does improve if i go back to using 2.0 with 4k uunp textures. after doing some more testing, the biggest improvement in fps was selecting the "disabler" for the sub surface details. i guess my system could not handle a roomful of bodies with ss enabled even when enb was turned off =( I am running it on an amd 6300, and nvidia 2 gig 750ti with no frame drop whatsoever. My spouse however, was having all kinds of horrible framerate problems. As low as 3 in some places and she has an i7-4790k, and a 4 gig nvidia 970. I went through all kinds of things trying to figure out why I could use over 300 mods and she couldn't play with less than half that. Ended up being that her skeleton was an older outdated version. Not saying that is 100% your problem, but thought it might be worth suggesting since hers is back up to 120fps now. This mod comes with the skeleton installed though as of version 3.2 I am getting fps dips too and i have the skeleton's from this mod, i don't think they can be outdated? it says it's xpmse version 3.73 one of the newer versions. You should check the mesh files for any follower mods you have. Some come with their own skeletons and will not be replaced by this mod. They need to be changed manually, also the skeleton of children must be replaced with a child xpmse skeleton to avoid FPS hits. Thanks but I'm aware of that I am currently starting a new game and don't have any follower mods installed yet, don't have any children mods in yet either. After playing the game and experiencing a frame rate drop, could you take a look at your HDT log? It's found here in your Data folder(or the Data tab if you use Mod Organizer): SKSE/plugins/hdtPhysicsExtensions.log If it is spamming a lot of Warnings/Errors such as "WARNING: Cannot bind bone : NPC Belly - bone doesn't exist" or "ERROR: Illegal hkx file : NPC Belly - Fixed/Keyframed body without binding!" or anything similar, you definitely have a skeleton problem somewhere. If your HDT log has no errors or warnings whatsoever, we may have to look elsewhere for a solution. I am attaching it just in case you can catch anything but i don't see any warnings or errors. hdtPhysicsExtensions.log
sugarpal Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 No matter what I try, any options, still getting seams. I finally figured out I have to zip my screenshot to show it here, but got it to upload for others to take a look. Any help would be much appreciated. Nothing is overwriting the Allinone mod. Just out of curiosity, do you have fem feet or better hands installed? I had the same problem, and it ended up being my "improved" hand and feet textures. Neither showed in MO as overwriting, but as soon as I removed them my issue was gone. No, I do not have anything of the sort.
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