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Are the tools and programs used to mod Skyrim compatible with Windows 10?


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Sorry if this is a dumb question. The title is self explanatory so I am really asking if there will be a compatibility problem with SKSE, MOD Manager, SkyUI and any other tool or modder resource?

 

I mean I have pretty much a lot of stuff from modding this game and I am afraid that upgrading could cause issues.

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I mean nividea graphics cards aren't even compatible with windows 10 so i doubt it.

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the better question is. why are you on windows 10?

 

Its been getting alot of good reviews, and also direct x 12. But I stayed away incase theres a compatibility issue. I heard someone complaining they went to windows 10 but then their skyrim game wouldn't create save files.

 

Also I havn't heard of Nvidia cards being incompatible. I don't see why it wouldn't. It relies on its own drivers. I saw recently a video about an update on fixing SLI though.

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I'm staying away from Windows 10 for quite a while. At least until they worked out some of the issues and directx 12 exclusive games start showing up. 

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Everything should work the same on w10 but for skyrim you won't gain anything so there is no need to upgrade. I did because, well, new and shiny yay! No problems so far but I could do with w7 just as well.

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I've upgraded eight product keys to Win 10 so far. Six upgrades went without a hitch and the other two worked with <5 minute troubleshooting sessions. Three of the machines have been used for gaming (two by me and one by family) with no reported problems. If the newness of it all is exciting to you I would say go for it, but caution is just as commendable.

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I've used skyrim legendary edition, skse, nmm, loot, wrye bash, skyproc patcher, fnis for users, and had no problems on windows 10. Though steam overlay has one bug, it can minimize game during overlay internet browser using.

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

 

I doubt they will, they seem determined to force users and SMB's to a service type model where they effectively have control of your hardware. From memory, the enterprise edition allows up to 10 years to put off updates but that edition will carry an annual fee.

 

Regardless, as a rule of thumb never install a new O/S until SP1. As win10 won't have a service pack it's probably best left for at least six months unless you really want to be a free beta tester for MS. You have a year in any case before the free update expires (assuming it's not extended anyway)

 

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

 

I doubt they will, they seem determined to force users and SMB's to a service type model where they effectively have control of your hardware. From memory, the enterprise edition allows up to 10 years to put off updates but that edition will carry an annual fee.

 

Regardless, as a rule of thumb never install a new O/S until SP1. As win10 won't have a service pack it's probably best left for at least six months unless you really want to be a free beta tester for MS. You have a year in any case before the free update expires (assuming it's not extended anyway)

 

Warning: IT veteran rant.

 

 

MS has made such updates mandatory because most of the DDOS attacks come from botnets put together using machines with known bugs that the owners NEVER installed the updates to fix.

 

If MS makes it so that most machines on the net are up to date the number of botnets will go down as a result and people who had no idea that their machine had been compromised may be amazed at how much better their machine works when it isn't being covertly used by some asshole hiding in his parent's basement.

 

The vast majority of people using computers are ignorant of what it takes to keep their machines up to date, having it happen automatically will be a blessing for them. And NO, they shouldn't have to learn all of that just to be able to use a computer. It will be better when the average person doesn't have to worry about such problems, we all have more than enough other nuisances to occupy our time.

 

"Regardless, as a rule of thumb never install a new O/S until SP1." <---- This is something I take great exception to. The person who first suggested it was a moron and companies who've taken it as a rule for their IT departments deserve all the trouble this kind of overt stupidity brings them.

 

The intelligent company will have a team downloading and checking all their most important internal software against those beta versions and be reporting the bugs they find and the ideas that have or requests for changes they need during that beta so when the final release comes out they will be able to confidently install the OS and run it because they know it works in their environment.

 

OTOH, idiots following the SP1 first process don't have a clue about what kinds of problems they may run into until it's far to late to provide any sort of useful feedback to the developers because those developers are now working on the next version of the OS and are no longer available to consult with as they were during the beta testing. Instead their complaints go to the people who took up the code after the new development was done and their job is to find and fix the bugs that are reported after release.

 

 

FWIW, I have been in both situations. I have worked with new OS betas and performed tests, reported bugs and had my enhancement requests taken seriously by the developers and their management and worked in a company that followed the SP1 rule so seriously they never even considered installing new software and were often hurrying to upgrade software as it went out of support years after they could readily ask for changes or fixes. Guess which company had more stable and responsive sfoware?

 

 

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Warning: IT veteran rant.

 

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Hmm, well we shall just have to agree to differ then wont we, my experience with IT also goes back a number of decades and is very different to yours in regard to implementing buggy early versions of an O/S.

 

Frankly I doubt MS is that concerned about botnets but more towards moving to a subscription model to increase revenues.

 

We clearly have diametrically opposite views on the whole issue so let's leave it there, but if you fell the need to have the last word then go ahead.

 

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I don't see the point with Windows 10. It's basically Windows 8 with some unnecessary features. So why bother upgrading?

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

 

Microsoft already released a tool which can hide and disable updates you don't want, you might want to take look if your having trouble with something.

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

 

Microsoft already released a tool which can hide and disable updates you don't want, you might want to take look if your having trouble with something.

 

I personally am quite happy with Windows 7. The only appealing aspect of 10 to me would be the Direct X 12, but that's not enough for me to upgrade at this point. I prefer having control over which updates get installed and when. I still do the updates of course but I like to give them time to see if there is any known serious issues, like bsods, fail starts, freezes etc. Using this method I've never had the issues some people have had from faulty windows updates for years. From the bit of Googling the tool you speak of, that tool only uninstalls and blocks drivers/updates that have already been installed. There is an option to block driver updates but it supposedly doesn't work for everyone all of the time. Info is from this article: http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/ .

I'm sure I will upgrade to 10 someday but not anytime soon.

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I mean nividea graphics cards aren't even compatible with windows 10 so i doubt it.

 

Uh yes they are. You just have to go to the nvidia website and update.

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I mean nividea graphics cards aren't even compatible with windows 10 so i doubt it.

 

Uh yes they are. You just have to go to the nvidia website and update.

 

 

My GTX card was recognized automatically. All I needed to do was reboot once after updating and everything worked.

I'm running heavily modded Skyrim and use SKSE, MO, TES5Edit, NifSkope, etc. and have had 0 problems going from win7 -> win10.

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I mean nividea graphics cards aren't even compatible with windows 10 so i doubt it.

 

Uh yes they are. You just have to go to the nvidia website and update.

 

 

My GTX card was recognized automatically. All I needed to do was reboot once after updating and everything worked.

I'm running heavily modded Skyrim and use SKSE, MO, TES5Edit, NifSkope, etc. and have had 0 problems going from win7 -> win10.

 

 

Sadly mine bugged out on me a little I had to redownload. But it took a whooping 2 minutes so *shrug*

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I mean nividea graphics cards aren't even compatible with windows 10 so i doubt it.

 

Uh yes they are. You just have to go to the nvidia website and update.

 

 

My GTX card was recognized automatically. All I needed to do was reboot once after updating and everything worked.

I'm running heavily modded Skyrim and use SKSE, MO, TES5Edit, NifSkope, etc. and have had 0 problems going from win7 -> win10.

 

 

Sadly mine bugged out on me a little I had to redownload. But it took a whooping 2 minutes so *shrug*

 

Mine worked fine and I even got (and installed) an update to it today when I noticed the Geoforce Experience program said one was available.

 

There are a lot of cards under the NVIDIA name, someone saying they don't work (general) as opposed to naming a specific card/series/chipset is wrong.

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I mean nividea graphics cards aren't even compatible with windows 10 so i doubt it.

 

Uh yes they are. You just have to go to the nvidia website and update.

 

 

My GTX card was recognized automatically. All I needed to do was reboot once after updating and everything worked.

I'm running heavily modded Skyrim and use SKSE, MO, TES5Edit, NifSkope, etc. and have had 0 problems going from win7 -> win10.

 

 

Sadly mine bugged out on me a little I had to redownload. But it took a whooping 2 minutes so *shrug*

 

Mine worked fine and I even got (and installed) an update to it today when I noticed the Geoforce Experience program said one was available.

 

There are a lot of cards under the NVIDIA name, someone saying they don't work (general) as opposed to naming a specific card/series/chipset is wrong.

 

 

I wonder if it's because I upgraded using the tool...that might've bugged my windows 10 install a bit.

 

But yeah it was my 970. I had to reinstall the drivers (got a lovely low res desktop when I first logged on to windows 10. That was lulzy).

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

 

Even graphics card drivers?

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Windows 10 Home has updates auto update, even drivers. Not possible to disable. Pro/Enterprise updates can be held off for a maximum of 30 days or so, but then get installed with or without your permission. Since updates can be botched occasionally, particularly Kernal/Kernal Mode Driver/USB updates, it might be bad overall for gamers. Forced updates of GPU drivers isnt something I would want. I suspect however that enough people will complain about the auto updates and that hopefully Microsoft will address the issue.

 

Even graphics card drivers?

 

Nvdia has their own Geoforce Experience system that works with Windows 10 and does it's own driver updates so the answer is: it depends. Use the generic drivers that come with Windows 10 and you get the Windows 10 generic driver updates. If you have a device that has it's own updates process it appears you get the custom updates through that process instead of the generic.

 

Come on in, the water's fine <g>.

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