NicoleDragoness Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Well, the GagBall thing is a pain. I upgraded to ZAP 6.07, registered, made everything needed. I tried almost every possible settings in ZAP and SexLab. Nothing. I cannot talk with ANYONE. I only have a line "Come again?" outside the normal dialogue tree. It's the only answer I can get. And if I take off the gag, I'm immediately punished. If not enough fast, I'm punished to death anyway. I have no different solution than reload a previous save and, from now then, I will have only one rule to follow: - NEVER ask to master to discuss the rules. This part will be forbidden forever. (At least until all those idiotic bsdm things will be removed from the mod). BTW, other than ZAP pack, I have installed only the DD assets. No integration, no expansion, no other mods with dependency with those.
krighaur Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Well, the GagBall thing is a pain. I upgraded to ZAP 6.07, registered, made everything needed. I tried almost every possible settings in ZAP and SexLab. Nothing. I cannot talk with ANYONE. I only have a line "Come again?" outside the normal dialogue tree. It's the only answer I can get. And if I take off the gag, I'm immediately punished. If not enough fast, I'm punished to death anyway. I have no different solution than reload a previous save and, from now then, I will have only one rule to follow: - NEVER ask to master to discuss the rules. This part will be forbidden forever. (At least until all those idiotic bsdm things will be removed from the mod). BTW, other than ZAP pack, I have installed only the DD assets. No integration, no expansion, no other mods with dependency with those. The ability to 'talk' while gagged was from zenet_gagquest http://www.loverslab.com/topic/33785-zenet-gagquest-v11-devious-devices-gags-mod-overhaul/ it is now obsolete and included in devious device integration
jaberwocky Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Great changes, although I have not been able to play Skyrim the past few days. The remove bindings when a dragon attacks I think is great. I must admit that I am not a fan of the haircut myself (and will probably use showracemenu).Anyway, to implement the shaven haircut more correctly, the hair should not grow back. Instead, after two days a dialogue could appear where the owner tells that he/she made a lovely wig out of that old hair. Afterwards, the slave can ask to be allowed to wear the wig. As to a suggestion for 1.5, when your domme has a high arousal, he/she does not want to see you naked?To me that does not make sense. I would expect the opposite. I would suggest a small chance to wear clothes again right after having sex. Know that for me personally, I do not mind to be forced to stay naked all the time as I have no melee character and my character practices enchanting. As to MCM settings (and probably a lot to ask for right now), what about a point-system? You can obtain points when selecting certain disadvantages. And use them to disable one (or at most two) events you dislike/hate. That way people can turn off events they hate and in the process could make them dislike this mod. But it will be at a cost. I would expect that you start with one point. Something like "getting wrists bindings at 60% carry capacity instead of 80%", will give you one point. Something like "half the chance of being allowed to wear clothes/armor when you ask" , will give you one point. All events require a minimum of two points to disable (to disable the haircut event could for instance cost 3 points). (and perhaps disable MCM menu when Lola wears her collar) As said before about the MCM settings, I assume it will be too much to ask for in effort right now. And its effect would make more sense when more type of events could happen.
rjn Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Well, the GagBall thing is a pain. I upgraded to ZAP 6.07, registered, made everything needed. I tried almost every possible settings in ZAP and SexLab. Nothing. I cannot talk with ANYONE. I only have a line "Come again?" outside the normal dialogue tree. It's the only answer I can get. And if I take off the gag, I'm immediately punished. If not enough fast, I'm punished to death anyway. That's because "Maria Eden" is active. That mod tries to control all aspects of slavery (and that includes superseding any other gag functions).
bazahadro Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I'm curious about a strange behavior I'm seeing. My follower will randomly "Look at me interested." (or similar) and then begins the dialog for the quest in DD where you get in trouble for stealing books from the "Forbidden Bookshelf" in the Arcaneum. I've finished that quest and it registers as complete so I have no way of completing it again. If I hit escape after the first dialog it seems to shut down the quest but that's the only quest that ever triggers when my owner 'looks at me interrested'. Any thoughts? BTW - This is an AWESOME mod! Thanks!
bazahadro Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 I'm curious about a strange behavior I'm seeing. My follower will randomly "Look at me interested." (or similar) and then begins the dialog for the quest in DD where you get in trouble for stealing books from the "Forbidden Bookshelf" in the Arcaneum. I've finished that quest and it registers as complete so I have no way of completing it again. If I hit escape after the first dialog it seems to shut down the quest but that's the only quest that ever triggers when my owner 'looks at me interrested'. Any thoughts? BTW - This is an AWESOME mod! Thanks! Okay... so reading the instructions is good. Removed DD and all the associated mods (tear) and it seems to be fine. Not sure why this mod would trigger a quest in another mod though...
alexvkj Posted October 28, 2015 Author Posted October 28, 2015 Okay... so reading the instructions is good. Removed DD and all the associated mods (tear) and it seems to be fine. Not sure why this mod would trigger a quest in another mod though... http://www.loverslab.com/topic/49358-submissive-lola-consensual-ds-mod/?p=1352527
alexvkj Posted October 28, 2015 Author Posted October 28, 2015 Great changes, although I have not been able to play Skyrim the past few days. As to a suggestion for 1.5, when your domme has a high arousal, he/she does not want to see you naked?To me that does not make sense. I would expect the opposite. I would suggest a small chance to wear clothes again right after having sex. Know that for me personally, I do not mind to be forced to stay naked all the time as I have no melee character and my character practices enchanting. Sexlab aroused assumes exactly that: aroused = want sex. And if you want sex with your slave, you just do it. But that's just yet another personal point of view. My idea is a bit paradoxal, but really simple: you have to walk around naked most of the time to be able to put on your armor anytime you really need it.
Deadly Kitten Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Yeah, this mod conflicts with Maria Eden. If I have Zaz restraints equipped, I automatically get enslaved by anyone I talk to, even my master. Interesting, but gets old fast.
xboronx Posted October 28, 2015 Posted October 28, 2015 Great mod, already having lots of fun (like i had with Veronica D/S for FalloutNV). Do you plan to implement a similiar feature like in Veronica D/S where you also can be your Mistress true slave? This request could randomly be triggered once your submission score is 65 or higher. Once you chose true slavery i would greatly enjoy it if there are two or three "missions" for ending your slavery like in Veronica D/S. One way could be that your Mistress simply puts you on auction in Simple Slavery again, another one getting XXXX septims so that she can buy another slave.
alexvkj Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 Yeah, this mod conflicts with Maria Eden. If I have Zaz restraints equipped, I automatically get enslaved by anyone I talk to, even my master. Interesting, but gets old fast. On Maria Eden's page is very clearly stated that it conflicts with every slavery and follower-mods. This one is a slavery AND follower-mod.
NicoleDragoness Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I don't know why, but in my game Maria Eden conflicts with this mod ONLY for the GagBall part (and ... maybe. I'm still not sure it's ME or some other thing like ZAP itself, DD or other). When I used the dialogue to "ask something unusual" and I choose my dom, the dialogues related to MariaEden slavery DISAPPEARED from every NPC and Follower in the game. Every single quest, request, animation (now that I have upgraded to ZAP 6.07) of SubmissiveLola work fine. No problems, no CTDs, nothing. Plus, I still have all MariaEden features about whoring, brothels, clothes system of whores, dancers, succubi and so on. Not counting, in the end, that I use also Multifollower mod (EFF 4.0.2) and MHIYH 4.3g. By my side, definitively, the two mod CAN run together.
alexvkj Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 Great mod, already having lots of fun (like i had with Veronica D/S for FalloutNV). Do you plan to implement a similiar feature like in Veronica D/S where you also can be your Mistress true slave? This request could randomly be triggered once your submission score is 65 or higher. Once you chose true slavery i would greatly enjoy it if there are two or three "missions" for ending your slavery like in Veronica D/S. One way could be that your Mistress simply puts you on auction in Simple Slavery again, another one getting XXXX septims so that she can buy another slave. As you might notice, there are two main quests here: "a strong hand" which handles the becoming a slave part and "submissive lola" which is for the main slavery part. At the current state, the freeing part is implemented in the "submissive lola" quest, which is wrong. In one of the following versions I'm going to move the freeing part in the first quest and implement some alternate means to start the second one. Then it's possible to integrate it in every other slavery framework. I personally don't like the idea of any permanent slavery.
NicoleDragoness Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I personally don't like the idea of any permanent slavery. AGREE.
xboronx Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Great mod, already having lots of fun (like i had with Veronica D/S for FalloutNV). Do you plan to implement a similiar feature like in Veronica D/S where you also can be your Mistress true slave? This request could randomly be triggered once your submission score is 65 or higher. Once you chose true slavery i would greatly enjoy it if there are two or three "missions" for ending your slavery like in Veronica D/S. One way could be that your Mistress simply puts you on auction in Simple Slavery again, another one getting XXXX septims so that she can buy another slave. As you might notice, there are two main quests here: "a strong hand" which handles the becoming a slave part and "submissive lola" which is for the main slavery part. At the current state, the freeing part is implemented in the "submissive lola" quest, which is wrong. In one of the following versions I'm going to move the freeing part in the first quest and implement some alternate means to start the second one. Then it's possible to integrate it in every other slavery framework. I personally don't like the idea of any permanent slavery. Yeah that's why i suggested the end your slavery quests like you have those two options in Veronica D/S where you either are left somewhere in the wasteland without any gear or you have to whore for some money on the strip before you become free. Endless slavery without any means to escape surely gets boring. How do you start the "a strong hand" ? I'm asking because SD+ has a very similiar line, there the dialogue option is "i need a strong hand" and it starts SD+ slavery then.
pihwht Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 The slave hood continues to be required even if after my Lola canceled the save. The name, by the way, did not change back. It all seemed to work very well, but I was experimenting with annoying my mistress, and when we got down to -30 she electrified my player to death. I suppose she would have sold Lola, but we had another follower who kept healing my player. Instead of not coming back again without the sweetroll and taking another chance, I loaded an earlier save and jumped ship. Also thought earlier that the hood ought to restrict vision a bit. Changed it out for a bit with one from zaz, and was not zapped, but seemed to lose points.
olonolo Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 alexvkj, you might want to check this out. Playing 1.4 I dismissed my follower owner in Lakeview Manor and then I went to Whiterun to sell some stuff. 2 days later in one of the stores my owner shows up behind me demanding that I get her some ale. Happen to have some so I gave it to her and she went away happy. btw. the hair quest hasn't triggered yet, been playing for quite a while, sub score 65. (not that I'm complaining)
mendalion Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Great mod, already having lots of fun (like i had with Veronica D/S for FalloutNV). Do you plan to implement a similiar feature like in Veronica D/S where you also can be your Mistress true slave? This request could randomly be triggered once your submission score is 65 or higher. Once you chose true slavery i would greatly enjoy it if there are two or three "missions" for ending your slavery like in Veronica D/S. One way could be that your Mistress simply puts you on auction in Simple Slavery again, another one getting XXXX septims so that she can buy another slave. As you might notice, there are two main quests here: "a strong hand" which handles the becoming a slave part and "submissive lola" which is for the main slavery part. At the current state, the freeing part is implemented in the "submissive lola" quest, which is wrong. In one of the following versions I'm going to move the freeing part in the first quest and implement some alternate means to start the second one. Then it's possible to integrate it in every other slavery framework. I personally don't like the idea of any permanent slavery. Yeah that's why i suggested the end your slavery quests like you have those two options in Veronica D/S where you either are left somewhere in the wasteland without any gear or you have to whore for some money on the strip before you become free. Endless slavery without any means to escape surely gets boring. How do you start the "a strong hand" ? I'm asking because SD+ has a very similiar line, there the dialogue option is "i need a strong hand" and it starts SD+ slavery then. Dam you people... If you don't like endless slavery than don't agree to it... There should be some kind of warning that this is the end and no coming back... period. If you don't like permanent slavery don't accept it... But it has to be there like a constant reminder that you could be permanently enslaved... like an evil lurking beside you... a little danger to the fun of what you are doing. Permanent slavery isn't supposed to be mainly as an end goal... For example take dying in almost all games... it is NOT end goal or super fun... But what would game like DOOM be if there was no death as a dead end or game over... something you have to avoid and be careful with. So is permanent slavery to slave mod... But also some people may enjoy it even more knowing that they are forever bound as a slave to their master... Like a good roleplay... But this roleplay cannot be experienced fully if there is no permanent enslavement. And why not have MCM menu where you can enable or disable this feature. Also you probably wanna warn a player that he is entering to a no return zone. What is so bad about to give players a choice, a game feature to have permanent enslavement or not?
bearbearian Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 How do you start the "a strong hand" ? I'm asking because SD+ has a very similiar line, there the dialogue option is "i need a strong hand" and it starts SD+ slavery then. You need to say to your follower "I have to ask you about something unusual" and then it gives you the option to ask for a strong hand. This is hinted at in the quest description for "A Strong Hand", which says something like "Ask your follower for something unusual... if you dare." If you don't see that dialog, you probably haven't read the "Submissive Lola" book under Haelga's bed in Haelga's Bunkhouse in Riften.
alexvkj Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 alexvkj, you might want to check this out. Playing 1.4 I dismissed my follower owner in Lakeview Manor and then I went to Whiterun to sell some stuff. 2 days later in one of the stores my owner shows up behind me demanding that I get her some ale. Happen to have some so I gave it to her and she went away happy. btw. the hair quest hasn't triggered yet, been playing for quite a while, sub score 65. (not that I'm complaining) She missed you
Terakando Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 I'm testing the mod in the moment and it seems to work fine till now. But I have a question about the scene with the gag. My lola can still talk to the new master. Is that normal? I mean..I'm using Devios devices and there is maybe a gag speak possibility with it. I hope that don't break this mod? an other thing is that she can take of the gag by herself. Does the mod make use of it? I mean..does the script understand that? Or should my lola run arround gaged, till the master say something new? You see..I just want to get a feeling about what I can do and I should not do, so the mod works fine
alexvkj Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 I'm testing the mod in the moment and it seems to work fine till now. But I have a question about the scene with the gag. My lola can still talk to the new master. Is that normal? I mean..I'm using Devios devices and there is maybe a gag speak possibility with it. I hope that don't break this mod? an other thing is that she can take of the gag by herself. Does the mod make use of it? I mean..does the script understand that? Or should my lola run arround gaged, till the master say something new? You see..I just want to get a feeling about what I can do and I should not do, so the mod works fine Take the gag out and see what happens. As for devious devices, there is only one conflict I know about: don't go with your dom to Arcaneum.
alexvkj Posted October 29, 2015 Author Posted October 29, 2015 The slave hood continues to be required even if after my Lola canceled the save. The name, by the way, did not change back. It all seemed to work very well, but I was experimenting with annoying my mistress, and when we got down to -30 she electrified my player to death. I suppose she would have sold Lola, but we had another follower who kept healing my player. Instead of not coming back again without the sweetroll and taking another chance, I loaded an earlier save and jumped ship. Also thought earlier that the hood ought to restrict vision a bit. Changed it out for a bit with one from zaz, and was not zapped, but seemed to lose points. I noticed the issues already. Wait 3 days and the hood will be removed.
Terakando Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Thanks Yes, if I take it out she asks me why. So I can speak and make new rules via dialog. In the moment I'm testing the - score things. No ctds, all dialogs and animations works...and it makes fun :3 I think I like it edit: Ah ok, now it works. Or I should better say: Now I'm knowing what you mean. Nice^^
bazahadro Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Okay... so reading the instructions is good. Removed DD and all the associated mods (tear) and it seems to be fine. Not sure why this mod would trigger a quest in another mod though... http://www.loverslab.com/topic/49358-submissive-lola-consensual-ds-mod/?p=1352527 Thank you! I promised I did try to search for information on this before I posted lol!
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