Guest Suited Prawns Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Quite frankly I found this disappointing http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=72850&browsesort=trend§ion=readytouseitems&requiredflags%5B%5D=paiditems  I all ways found Bethesda stance on paid mods to be admirable and now this. I dunno I thought that modding fallout / skyrim was peoples hobbies and not jobs. Just people loving games and making mods for them. I think its great that people got jobs through it but this kinda seems like a cash in on if it is at all like the steam market where steam/Bethesda takes a cut. I also don't think its gonna improve mod quality since steam really just fired its entire quality control team that used to make it the great platform it was and let anyone with a free copy of unity take a dump on the front page and sell it. Edit: I know not all mods are gonna end here but I feel like allot of people will try to use this to make money like its been with steam for the past year.
Contessa Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 This has the potential to be a mess of epic proportions. How will they handle permissions? Ripped content? People lifting mods to get a quick buck from other places claiming them as their own? Workshop already has a reputation for being a mod thief's haven.
Takaostar Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 This has the potential to be a mess of epic proportions. How will they handle permissions? Ripped content? People lifting mods to get a quick buck from other places claiming them as their own? Workshop already has a reputation for being a mod thief's haven. Â Yup, it is going to be a monumental clusterfrag. And setting aside that, if it actually worked, you're still going to have a lot of incredibly dedicated modders who are locked out of the renumeration because of the content of their mods. (Particularly relevant here) Â The whole thing is absurd and I can't imagine it lasting long, especially due to the stolen content issue.
badbat111 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 blame pay sites i once saw a chinese site that sells mods for oblivion im guessing skyrim creators got cocky and decided to follow in there footsteps to make a few bucks
Guest Suited Prawns Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 The things is, prior to this im pretty sure that Bethesda actually forbid selling modifications for skyrim.
Aurora95 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Ugh, horrible >.< Â Ppl even see youtube as a way to make money these days I miss when people did community stuff for fun and not money
Shocky Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Apparently a pack of mods cost more than the ACTUAL GAME, uh....wtf, damn steam, they screwed up really bad this time....
pinky6225 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Just read through it and it seems that some of the paid mods have a variable price so you pay what you feel it deserves which i think is fair enough as their are already ways to donate to modders/modding sites if you so wish so all steam is doing in this case is making it easier. Â The mods with a fixed price however i'm less charitable towards since some of the prices are actually above the DLC prices (ones even above the price for legendary skyrim last time i saw it on sale) although in their defense their are also ones for like 10 pence. Â Â So i think this will depend a lot on how its received and how its monitored/implemented since their are quite a few mods here on this site that if the mod author suddenly said if you raise X amount for me so i can take time off work i will re-do my mod as if it was my day job (i.e professionally) then i'd donate
ooame Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 My biggest fear is that developers from now on are going to lock their SDKs to steam and only allow you to upload mods to the workshop and preventing the mods to be used outside of steams workshop. Which means all mods have to adhere to whatever valve thinks is okay, effectively killing lewd mods. Â I hope thats not the case but i fear its gonna turn into that.
Deathmaw Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 lol this is so scummy. This is going to hurt Skyrim Modding a lot.
aqqh Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 My biggest fear is that developers from now on are going to lock their SDKs to steam and only allow you to upload mods to the workshop and preventing the mods to be used outside of steams workshop. Which means all mods have to adhere to whatever valve thinks is okay, effectively killing lewd mods. Â I hope thats not the case but i fear its gonna turn into that. sexlab mods are too complicated for that. Â To sell a mod you need to share profits with everyone that was involved in its creation. Â Every sexlab mod is based on sexlab Propably even Ashal doesn't know how many people contributed to creation of sexlab - not to say what kind of share each of them would deserve...
ooame Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Â My biggest fear is that developers from now on are going to lock their SDKs to steam and only allow you to upload mods to the workshop and preventing the mods to be used outside of steams workshop. Which means all mods have to adhere to whatever valve thinks is okay, effectively killing lewd mods. Â I hope thats not the case but i fear its gonna turn into that. sexlab mods are too complicated for that. Â To sell a mod you need to share profits with everyone that was involved in its creation. Â Every sexlab mod is based on sexlab Propably even Ashal doesn't know how many people contributed to creation of sexlab - not to say what kind of share each of them would deserve... Â Â I was more thinking about future games not Skyrim.
Guest Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Guys, d-did I just see an early access for a mod? The fishing one. What world are we living in?
aqqh Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 really hope Bethesda isn't involved. they are very much involved...
HopliteZ Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 There is an Armor mod starting at 2$ and a weapon mod starting at 1$ i think, like WHAT THE FUCK? This is essentially making mods unofficial DLCs, I personally think its a big kick in the head for Skyrim modding community if not a straight up R.I.P for modding as a whole, why cant they just implement a donate button like in the Nexus, psychologically works better IMHO..Â
Takaostar Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 really hope Bethesda isn't involved. Â I'm afraid they can't not be involved. Â And crap, that probably means that more than a few of the dependencies for Sexlab etc are going to end up paywalled on steam - I'm already hearing tales of people pulling their mods from Nexus to get themselves onto the cash cow.
Deathmaw Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 lol that http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430324898 is laughable.  Early access for a mod.  I'm not even sure what to say.
Gmant Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Pretty much every single comment on the Workshop is negative right now. Let's hope the community backlash is big enough.
Takaostar Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 lol that http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430324898 is laughable.  Early access for a mod.  I'm not even sure what to say.  Nothing to do but fiddle whilst Rome burns down.  And hope the backlash is enough to cause a reversal of the decision.
The Duke Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 The nickel and dime era. Early access mods. Modders promising an update only to put it up behind a paywall. I'm surprised the Wet & Cold guy was the first to cash in.
s666 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 the best way is not to add a paying access, i think it's better to creating a patreon and have donations from users.
Naked Ekans Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 I don't download pirated games, but I'm sure as hell I'll download mods.
Epic Gamer Frey Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Got a feeling some private modders will start releasing their mods... for recockulous prices.
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