AwfulArchdemon Posted March 18, 2015 Author Posted March 18, 2015 PS4 must be spending some serious fucking money to ensure no other consoles get full versions of multi-platform games. It's happening to many games now. Firepaw74 is right. Enough false advertisements, only to find out PC and Xbox versions have had important features deleted before release to appease Sony. Why is everyone kissing Sony's ass any goddam way?! Has anyone else noticed the difference in breast physics? They appear to be nonexistent on the the PS3/PC version, but alive and well on the PS4 version. This is where the deal breaker truly lies for me. If they deleted physics on the PC version just so PS4 can monopolize another game franchise (in this case one of my all-time favorites), the game will be ignored. Plus, those 2 new stages that Sony made Steam and Microsoft delete looked pretty baddass. So that would be Dragon Age , The Sims, WWE, and Dead or Alive that has been recently ruined for me. Somehow, the only game that has made me happy lately is Dragonball Xenoverse...a truly played out and dragged out franchise, that keeps figuring out how to keep me interested and happy. I'm not ready to say goodbye to DOA... How on Earth can anyone force a PC release to use last-gen programming? Doesn't make any sense. This had better be a complete lie, because I've never heard of anyone making a mod for a fighting game that adds breast physics. High-rez textures we can handle, which would ease the loss of Soft Engine, but it's possible no one will make a physics mod for it if physics were deleted. I don't wanna live in a world where DOA has no physics. It's the 18th. I've been counting the days. Every day I look at my phone to check the date. Only because of DOA do I always know the date . 12 more days! I had better not be immensely disappointed. Again. It's killing my urge to make games for a living. If this is what we are expected to do in game production, I want no part of it. I will never delete a feature from a different platform to make anyone (Sony!) happy, unless those features put the last-gen consoles at critical CPU usage, in which case it makes sense. It does NOT, however, make sense to charge THE SAME PRICE for a game that has less features than "the one on PS4". In the case of WWE, it was My Career mode...the one I played most. In DOA's case, it's breast physics, 2 stages, and a large portion of their graphics enhancements. Those features would most definitely run fine on Xbox 360 and PS3!! No reason to delete them! This, my friends, is an outrage, IF it's true. Might not be.............. And why oh why are they STILL using DirectX 9?? Why did they ever bother to make a DX 11 in the first place? I've seen, what...ONE game that uses 11? In all these years?
Yuc-Man Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Deleted my preorder ! These people are playing incorrectly : to be honest , to make money they have speculated on sex continuing to release dlcs with girls always less dressed , forcing the players to spend money because teased , then when finally the pc version is on the way , they want do the moralists threatening the pc users to NOT CREATE nude mods otherwise no more games by they and then now deliberately castrate the pc ver. , it's clear as sun that this is a business move to Sony Favor ! But the Really Sad thing is that they are trying make other moneys also with pc ver. releasing a SHIT as this !! I remember to you that Tecmo has castrate the most important part of game .. deliberately for us ! Then i ask : but we pc users are so stupid and insignificant to be treated in this way ? NO WAY ! I think to talk for everyone here : as pc user i feel insulted and discriminated against by the attitude of Tecmo , SHAME ! Hey Tecmo .. this low blow i tie on my finger ! So pissed off !
windpl Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 @AwfulArchdemon i can piss you off more. PS3 have total fucked up programming architecture. So they would need to make two separate copies of game one for pc one for ps3. But porting it from ps4 would be a easy ride. So they do more work just to downgrade pc edition?
kionee Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 Not sure I understand the blame on Sony's part here, this game is also on Xbox One, with the same features as the PS4 version. And as far as I know Tecmo isn't owned by Sony. Also, in Japan PC gaming isn't as big a thing as it is mostly everywhere else. Regardless, it still sucks. The system requirements are ludicrously high for a game like this, to the point where they seem to think this game is as graphically intensive as Witcher 3. Seems to me that it's woefully optimized at this point. I was also looking forward to getting this on Steam, but after reading this I doubt I will. Also, the amount of dlc they've made for this and the prices they are charging on consoles is disgusting.
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 Can you get a refund if you actually played the game? I need to see this atrocity with my own eyes. Deleting physics is the same as deleting the game. It became the highest selling point for DAO when Team Ninja when they stressed the sex appeal to the point where we always thought of skimpy swimsuits and bouncing boobs when we heard the name Dead or Alive. Now that it's fully expected and anticipated, they go through extreme measures to delete physics? Of all things? Do they have some desire to anger PC users? It seems like they had no intention of releasing a game PC users could accept, and only wanted to make us mad, disappoint us, and threaten us about making mods. THEN, they give us Reason #1 to make mods for it!! @kionee: Of course I only compared to Sony! I've never once seen any comments at all about the Xbone version, and every time I look at system specs, it's always being compared only to PS4's version (you know, the FULL version ). Xbone users seem extremely silent about this game. Do Xbone get those 2 new stages?
windpl Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 It is quiet strange it need so much cpu power for minimal spec. As if that magic "boob" technology wasn't cut off but only disabled. If it was still in code then it would explain such cpu strain but if it is not I don't see practical reason for such high demand for low spec. Only 2gb of ram and 1gb vram and that amount of power? This is crazy bottlenecking
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 19, 2015 Author Posted March 19, 2015 I still can't fully believe it needs those specs to run. It doesn't register right in my mind. I find it impossible to believe. It's a fighting game, not a MMORPG. An i7 for a minimum requirement? That's...impossible! I can't possibly imagine what could make it so incredibly hard to run. Also, I found it laughable that they siad a GeForce GTX 650 falls under minimal specs, but the next one, the 660, is in Recommended. My 660 burned up pretty quick, and my 650 has twice-over outlasted it. I don't think these translations are getting through right. Gotta be using Google Translate. A boatload of bad news ever since I started looking up info. Steam users are losing their minds, making thread after thread about all this crap, and no one from Steam or Team Ninja has "corrected" anyone, leading me to believe there is truth to this shit. If it's as bad as it seems, there will be a record number of refunds. More so than The Sims 4, I bet.
Yuc-Man Posted March 19, 2015 Posted March 19, 2015 We are all teased by Team Ninja , it's normal seeing so many threads with angry sentiment , Doa5 on pc could have been Great Visual Experience but they don't want ! Anyway i've seen ps3 and ps4 ver. , the ps4 ver. is better on bouncing ( it's truth ! ) but even the ps3 is not so bad , also here there is a breasts bouncing but the ps4 also seems enjoy of new skin shaders ( !! ). What i hope is the MODDERS of all world can work hard TO SLAP Team Ninja game .. in every possible way ( !! ! ).. Watch Dogs experience teaches ! ^^ What Fucking Bastards , before they promise us great things and then they treat us in this way .. I can't wait for 30 March .. guys there will be to LAUGH because tease in this way gamers / modders / hackers is not never a good thing !
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 20, 2015 Author Posted March 20, 2015 We're gonna mod the ffffffuck outta this game, just to spite Team Ninja! Our #1 concern should be to make seriously good physics of our own. There is likely some kind of configuration file of sorts for such a thing, but Skyrim has taught many lessons to modders in terms of physics, so I am damn glad I started this thread on LL!! Custom skeletons are how we achieved this on Skyrim. What do we do when an entire engine is missing?? Soft Engine = jiggles. If it were easy to replicate without it, I'd assume they would have done that to ease the pain for other consoles (like PC ). Also, they wouldn't have needed Soft Engine if it could be done better with the PS3 version's build. We need our best scientists on this, stat! Blabba! Where you at! Xaz! Canderes! Calling all pros! We need to un-fuck-up this legendary game! We'll show 'em! Modders...UNITE!
Yuc-Man Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 We're gonna mod the ffffffuck outta this game, just to spite Team Ninja! Our #1 concern should be to make seriously good physics of our own. There is likely some kind of configuration file of sorts for such a thing, but Skyrim has taught many lessons to modders in terms of physics, so I am damn glad I started this thread on LL!! Custom skeletons are how we achieved this on Skyrim. What do we do when an entire engine is missing?? Soft Engine = jiggles. If it were easy to replicate without it, I'd assume they would have done that to ease the pain for other consoles (like PC ). Also, they wouldn't have needed Soft Engine if it could be done better with the PS3 version's build. We need our best scientists on this, stat! Blabba! Where you at! Xaz! Canderes! Calling all pros! We need to un-fuck-up this legendary game! We'll show 'em! Modders...UNITE! Well said brother , i really hope this will happen and it will be a Great Victory for Modders and pc Players !
quin666 Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=404306307 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JjHKYiB08[/media] Not surprise at all, but you people seriously need wake up! Almost zero fucks given for ports release on steam. Enjoy your inferior games.
Yuc-Man Posted March 20, 2015 Posted March 20, 2015 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=404306307 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JjHKYiB08[/media] Not surprise at all, but you people seriously need wake up! Almost zero fucks given for ports release on steam. Enjoy your inferior games. In life is important be Positive .. despite everything !
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 I suppose it's possible the engine is just disabled. This sort of thing has happened before. It could maybe be turned back on through modding. This is my hope. To strip the engine seems like an unlikely scenario, especially considering there are other PS4 features. This would make everything okay, but I have to wonder what's up with those new stages. You think they're actually in the game, and just disabled, like how WWE 2K15 did? This all sounds like wishful thinking to me, but still, it might not be as bad as it sounds. However, it might be worse...
Phelps1247 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 @kionee: Of course I only compared to Sony! I've never once seen any comments at all about the Xbone version, and every time I look at system specs, it's always being compared only to PS4's version (you know, the FULL version ). Xbone users seem extremely silent about this game. Do Xbone get those 2 new stages? That's because the terminology used on their chart was PS3/PS4. The XBO version has all that stuff too. DOA 3 & 4 were Xbox exclusives so I don't imagine they've got anything against Xbox.
quin666 Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Not surprise at all, but you people seriously need wake up! Almost zero fucks given for ports release on steam. Enjoy your inferior games. In life is important be Positive .. despite everything ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkbabSAvhDg Sum up everything when people play with my emotions. Devs trying rape my wallet while tell me this inferior game is good. Was about buy game until read DoA news.
Yuc-Man Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Not surprise at all, but you people seriously need wake up! Almost zero fucks given for ports release on steam. Enjoy your inferior games. In life is important be Positive .. despite everything ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkbabSAvhDg Sum up everything when people play with my emotions. Devs trying rape my wallet while tell me this inferior game is good. Was about buy game until read DoA news. Surely you have RIGHT ! Due of this situation (Doa5 pc ver.) we are all pissed off , we all feel cheated , the pc hardware is significantly higher than ps4 but they (!!) don't care about this ! To make an example RE HD Remaster on pc has been the BEST version , the only one that runs to 60 fps and more cleaned as image resolution ; every game that arrives on pc is a different adventure , sometime is good and sometime is less good ! But the Fucking -thing- in Doa5 case is that game has been deliberately castrated ! For this i REALLY hope that once released the game , the modders/hackers starts to work on it to make it anyway better than ps4/xone ver. , this for a matter of justice , for pc users. 30 March is close ..
Yami X Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Uh-oh... Dead or Alive fans are taking to NeoGAF to express concerns about the state of the upcoming Dead or Alive 5 Last Round, which will arrive on Steam at the end of the month. A NeoGAF user's translation of the Japanese site Gamecity states that the PC port of the game will not make use of the Soft Engine that powers the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 versions, yet it will also have more demanding system requirements than currently listed on Steam. To be fair, the Steam system requirements are very vague—an Intel Core i5 CPU, 4GB of RAM, and Windows 7 64-bit—but the Gamecity site indicates that a Core i7 2600 will actually be required to run the game at 1080p. The GeForce GTX 760, 660, or 750Ti are the recommended video cards, and according to IncGamers, the RAM requirement is now "more than 4GB." But while the requirements have gone up, capabilities appear to have gone down. The Soft Engine, which as Silconera explained last year, makes skin appear more natural, has been dropped, and the PC version will be stuck with PS3-style particle effects as well. The two extra stages added for the next-gen console releases have also been cut. On the upside, the game will support 4K resolution and PS4 shadow effects, but any lingering hope that online play will be ready in time for release or shortly thereafter has been snuffed: The post confirms that, as previously stated, it won't be added until roughly three months after launch. Dead or Alive 5: Last Round comes to the PC on March 30. From: PC Gamer PS4 --> <-- PS3http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/24/dead-alive-5-last-rounds-soft-engine-comparison/ So...this is a joke, right?
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 For this i REALLY hope that once released the game , the modders/hackers starts to work on it to make it anyway better than ps4/xone ver. , this for a matter of justice , for pc users. Amen, and hallelujah! This! ^ So this! Justice, redemption, and revival. In that order, these need to happen. So much work to downgrade the game. This is what devs are being paid to do? This is a worthwhile expenditure of money? If I ever hear them bitch that they aren't making enough money, this here is a bullet, with Team Ninja's name on it. Loaded and ready for the day they decide to complain about profit, when all they had to do to hook the whole damn PC crowd is to release the full version of the game, instead of spending extra money, and taking extra time to downgrade the game. Who goes out of their way to release a lesser version of a highly anticipated game on a platform that has never seen their game? First impressions are important, Team . This game had serious potential, and I'm willing to bet there are a ton of people who were about to go buy a Windows controller just for this game...until they read threads like mine. I didn't wanna do it. I didn't want to add negativity to a DOA thread. Did you see how I felt in my first post? This was a happy place. A place of dreams, and wonder. A place where mods could be made to compliment the great game DOA is (on PS4). Now, mods are no longer a compliment, but a solution to the problems Team has given us. They are a correction now, not a bonus. Necessary, instead of icing on the cake. Needed, instead of wanted.
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 Good example of physics can be shown at 0:21 PC will look a little better of course, but it's the particle effects and physics I'm paying attention to here. Those will match the PS3 version, until we get our hands on those precious, precious files. We should start thinking of alternative methods of adding physics ahead of time, and I'll list them on the OP, and this can be a true DOA5LR mod thread. NVIDIA has options, and the Soft Engine may be present but inactive in the game. Think, people! Let's strike early, and be ready. I'll do all I can. My focus will shift to this game when it's out (and before). Project Boob Physics (PBP) commences in T-1 week, 1 day, and 21 hours.
Yuc-Man Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 PC will look a little better of course, but it's the particle effects and physics I'm paying attention to here. Those will match the PS3 version, until we get our hands on those precious, precious files. We should start thinking of alternative methods of adding physics ahead of time, and I'll list them on the OP, and this can be a true DOA5LR mod thread. NVIDIA has options, and the Soft Engine may be present but inactive in the game. Think, people! Let's strike early, and be ready. I'll do all I can. My focus will shift to this game when it's out (and before). Project Boob Physics (PBP) commences in T-1 week, 1 day, and 21 hours. A clear video on speech ^^ , yes Nvidia PhysX would be a Excellent alternative solution , can use it on game would be a dream .. probably it would be possible achieve even better -bouncing physics- than Doa5 ps4/xone. Here the skeleton is already setup for bouncing , no need to add new bones but really need to resetup the boobs movement ; what i hope is that MANY people are interested to mod this game , more people will work on it and more (interesting) result we will see. ^ò^ Anyway this game has CUTE graphics (^ç^) but even a funny gameplay and it's really suitable with x360 controller (i tried it on x360) , there are all ingredients to have a nice pc game , despite everything .. we will see ! Ha , just a jump on google and it's clear that always more people NOW are curious to see DOA5 pc ver. , ha ha , the controversies always push high the people interest. Guys , THIS game is the -Large Breasts Heaven- and we pc users love this and want this .. it's necessary do something !! :P
ShiroiKaze69 Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I suppose it's possible the engine is just disabled. This sort of thing has happened before. It could maybe be turned back on through modding. This is my hope. To strip the engine seems like an unlikely scenario, especially considering there are other PS4 features. This would make everything okay, but I have to wonder what's up with those new stages. You think they're actually in the game, and just disabled, like how WWE 2K15 did? This all sounds like wishful thinking to me, but still, it might not be as bad as it sounds. However, it might be worse... Nope, unfortunately the PC version is based off the arcade version running on the Sega Ring Edge 2 hardware- https://twitter.com/TeamNINJAStudio/status/579184892941991936 Arcade version doesn't have the particle effects, soft engine, etc... EDIT- also there's zero interest on Xentax from anyone to mod this POS or port their console mods to it.
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 Arcade version doesn't have the particle effects, soft engine, etc... I was hoping the Arcade thing wasn't true EDIT- also there's zero interest on Xentax from anyone to mod this POS or port their console mods to it. Then we had better get on it. Everyone's minds will change about that when there's a working physics mod and nude mod for PC, and no doubt someone out there is ready to add a nude mod to the PS4, too. If they did it for DOA5 on 360, they'll damn sure do it for PS4, with all those jiggles. Yuc-Man, as I understand it, NVIDIA PhysX can't be used. Something about DirectX 9, or something. It seems they took every angle to make it as difficult as it can be to add our own physics. They've demonstrated some stupidity, I'm afraid. Or maybe "laziness" is the word I'm looking for... I'm not sure any changes were made to the Arcade port. We can get higher graphics than the Arcade, which suggests they did something, but I don't know what, and I don't yet know what can be done about physics. Seems like they'd need to built from scratch. Not impossible, since it's clear the right bones are on the skele, but still not as easy as activating a program from inside the game. Still, we might be able to push the graphics pretty high, like Watch Dogs. Another look at difference in titties: From Steam's @SiTWulf - Dead or Alive 5: Last Round - Info, Specs, Communications, Social Pages, etc: About the DirectX PS3 Uses OpenGL Xbox360 Uses DirectX 9 - 10 PS4 Uses OpenGL 4.4 (DirectX11 equivalent) Arcade Uses DirectX 9 PC Uses DirectX 9 <-------------- WTF!??? Maybe these "new features" are from DirectX11, for example the Soft Engine, and Sparkles come from nVidia Physx with DirectX 11, if they uses DirectX9 not get any of these features... As of Feb 21st, these are Xbone's sales from VGChartz: Total Units North America: 0.01m 47.9% + Europe: 0.01m 35.7% + Japan: 0.00m 11.7% + Rest of the World: 0.00m 4.6% = Global 0.02m USA! USA! We've bought the most copies in the US. I knew it! I knew that was gonna happen all along . Might want to seriously think about giving PC users more thought from now on. We will buy DOA! Gimme the full version!
AwfulArchdemon Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 Okay, this is from the Store page on Steam: Pre-Purchase Rewards Pre-Purchase Rewards - All Tiers Reached! At launch, all pre-purchase customers will receive all rewards. Dead or Alive 5 Pre-Purchase Reward for all pre-purchasers Kasumi Kasumi? Um, Kasumi is a reward for pre-orders? Wait, she's not in the game otherwise? Not sure I understand...
Yuc-Man Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 So pissed off ! They has done much to ensure that we can't mod properly the game .. FUCKING BASTARDS !!!!!!! :angry: Kasumi .. as reward .. PSHHHH !! Wordless !
galhound Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 it's actually the Kasumi Ninja 2015 costume reward. Didn't cancel my pre order since I only want them nude/high res textures and AA in PC. I can always switch to console version if I want some decent gameplay and of course the Senran Kagura costumes with destruction for the console version is a must play for me. I doubt you can really mod the PC version entirely without proper development kit tools, heck no one has even modded/increased the graphic quality for the Dynasty Warriors games which were basically another lame console port. It will only consists of DLC unlocker (maybe?), Texture and model swaps like Tomb Raider (only texture swaps with the use of Texmod), Street Fighter, Resident Evil and such.
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