Trapped in Rubber (updated 2015-08-02)

[TheFallen018]

 

Upon loading it all up, and getting it running, I tried to use the console command "startquest tir_twr_parade01", but as before, nothing happened. Had a look at my papyrus log, and I can't see any error there from trying to start the quest. I saved the game just before trying the console command, and you can see the game saving in the log, and then not much. Perhaps I'm missing something. Could you take a look? Thanks.

 

 

Did you enable refid xx067a9b before starting the quest, as I wrote in my previous post? Because if you didn't, then it won't work. That's the Mistress and she's disabled at the start of a new game. If you play the mod normally, she'll get enabled long before you reach the parade quest. But if you start it manually via console, you have to enable her by hand as well.

 

There are a lot of aliases in the parade quest. But most are optional, meaning the game won't care if they don't fill. The only non-optional aliases are: The player character herself. I think we can assume that one exists. Then the Mistress, that's what you need to take care of. And the last one is a trigger at the entrance of the playroom in the tower basement that starts a certain scene when you enter. I can see no reason why that one should cause problems.

 

 

I just came across another problem. After I get back from the rubber parade, I'm taken back to the castle, and when my gear gets removed, the screen fades to black, then you can hear all of the gear being removed, but the screen doesn't come back to normal.

[Nightlines]

 

 

I just came across another problem. After I get back from the rubber parade, I'm taken back to the castle, and when my gear gets removed, the screen fades to black, then you can hear all of the gear being removed, but the screen doesn't come back to normal.

 

I had the same Problem, try the command "setstage tir_dbg_restoregameplay 40" it should remove the blackscreen. Worked for me.

[Nightmyste]

it's not the black screen she's just standing there after calling the guests to gather around

[TheFallen018]

it's not the black screen she's just standing there after calling the guests to gather around

Try pressing 'T' and waiting 1 hour in game. Then, that should have created an autosave. Load that, and see if the script progresses.

[Nightmyste]

Same thing, tried the most common fixes right when the problem comes

still nice to see some attempts to help so thanks

[greyspammer]

I have a problem, i made the whole story but in the end i dont get any letter where the mistress calls me back. If i visit her she is gone.

 

At that point, she is in the party room (behind the scenes: not the one you were originally in but a copy of that). You should, however, be greeted by the pink rubber slave when you enter the Tower and taken to said party room. If that does not happen, something is probably wrong.

 

during the party i don't get the whip for the rubber punisher scene is there a specific point i need to stand for it to activate

(yes i am at the slave on the horse and the guest is there as well but nothing else is happening)

alright new problem:

i managed to get to the end of the party by forcing the punisher quest to the next stage (getting the whip and beating the slave) and then just going on normally, now the goodbyes are to be said but they all just stand there, i can move communicate and all but the scene doesn't move on

Seems to me like you, too, have some kind of generic problem. Technically, the Mistress should teleport you back out. If she doesn't, there may be some interference. Given you had problems earlier, I suggest you check for any conflicting mods (Maria Eden and Deviously Enslaved Continued seem to be likely candidates from what I saw).

 

 

I believe that you are correct, I think I did forget to enable the mistress. So, I tried again with my clean save, and this time it worked. Unfortunately, that left another problem. If I go into the basement, I can't talk to anyone, and I can't open the sewer either. Is there a way to fix that? Thanks.

 

What situation are we talking about? Are you still in the new game with which you did the parade test? Did you try to continue it normally after that? That wouldn't work. You'd have to start a new game and start from the beginning. Or, if you haven't tried it yet, you can try to continue your old save with the instructions I provided.

[Nightmyste]

Sadly i already removed and cleaned dd enslaved and never had maria eden, also i did check for conflicts before asking

i went back to a save from before i started the mod, but if it happens again i'll be sure to post a papyrus to find out the problem

[Nightlines]

 

 

At that point, she is in the party room (behind the scenes: not the one you were originally in but a copy of that). You should, however, be greeted by the pink rubber slave when you enter the Tower and taken to said party room. If that does not happen, something is probably wrong.

 

Well, nothing happens if I enter the tower. The pink Servant knows nothing (John Snow).

Shouldnt i get a letter from her first? Or is there any way to force the next(last) stage of the quest? I repeated the last part several times (From the parade on)

[greyspammer]

Well, nothing happens if I enter the tower. The pink Servant knows nothing (John Snow).

Shouldnt i get a letter from her first? Or is there any way to force the next(last) stage of the quest? I repeated the last part several times (From the parade on)

Ah, sorry. I misread your post. I thought you had gotten the letter.

 

If you have not, first check if the quest is actually running: 'sqv tir_twr_epilog01'. It should be running and at a stage of 10 or higher. If it is not running, try to start it ('startquest tir_twr_epilog01'). If then, after a few seconds, it does not progress to stage 10, you probably have an alias problem. If the Mistress is indeed gone (if the quest is not started, she has no reason to be gone), that would be my first suspect. Try 'prid xx067a9b' (replace xx with the load order index of TIR) and then 'enable'. Then try to start the quest again (do a 'resetquest' first).

 

The problem with this quest is that it's basically the big and kinky happy end celebration, where everyone is there. Hence, I need to grab everyone with an alias. And if just one fails to fill, the entire quests chokes out. Which makes this quest probably the most vulnerable to outside interference.

[TheFallen018]

 

I have a problem, i made the whole story but in the end i dont get any letter where the mistress calls me back. If i visit her she is gone.

 

At that point, she is in the party room (behind the scenes: not the one you were originally in but a copy of that). You should, however, be greeted by the pink rubber slave when you enter the Tower and taken to said party room. If that does not happen, something is probably wrong.

 

during the party i don't get the whip for the rubber punisher scene is there a specific point i need to stand for it to activate

(yes i am at the slave on the horse and the guest is there as well but nothing else is happening)

alright new problem:

i managed to get to the end of the party by forcing the punisher quest to the next stage (getting the whip and beating the slave) and then just going on normally, now the goodbyes are to be said but they all just stand there, i can move communicate and all but the scene doesn't move on

Seems to me like you, too, have some kind of generic problem. Technically, the Mistress should teleport you back out. If she doesn't, there may be some interference. Given you had problems earlier, I suggest you check for any conflicting mods (Maria Eden and Deviously Enslaved Continued seem to be likely candidates from what I saw).

 

 

I believe that you are correct, I think I did forget to enable the mistress. So, I tried again with my clean save, and this time it worked. Unfortunately, that left another problem. If I go into the basement, I can't talk to anyone, and I can't open the sewer either. Is there a way to fix that? Thanks.

 

What situation are we talking about? Are you still in the new game with which you did the parade test? Did you try to continue it normally after that? That wouldn't work. You'd have to start a new game and start from the beginning. Or, if you haven't tried it yet, you can try to continue your old save with the instructions I provided.

 

 

No, I was still playing the clean save when that happened. It seems like there is a script that is enabled when the mistress tells you to go into the basement when the party is due that doesn't get run if you skip all of the quests and go straight to the rubber parade quest. If I use startquest tir_twr_parade01, then the only way I can get into the basement is to use the "unlock" console command on it, and if I do that, I can't talk to any one, and the option to ask the mistress to remove my catsuit isn't there.

Hopefully that isn't too confusing to follow. Thanks.

[Globulopolis]

 

... the only way I can get into the basement is to use the "unlock" console command on it, and if I do that...

This problem not only with this quest. Rubber School have problem too. After speak with the Mistress she go to the basement, but I can't because doors is locked.

Second problem - mistress sometime stack at the door. Example: I open door, move into basement, but mistress is still stay at the tower just before basement doors. I need to go back, wait until the mistress go through doors and only after that I can proceed.

But sometimes mistress stacked before doors and can't move any more.

[greyspammer]

No, I was still playing the clean save when that happened. It seems like there is a script that is enabled when the mistress tells you to go into the basement when the party is due that doesn't get run if you skip all of the quests and go straight to the rubber parade quest. If I use startquest tir_twr_parade01, then the only way I can get into the basement is to use the "unlock" console command on it, and if I do that, I can't talk to any one, and the option to ask the mistress to remove my catsuit isn't there.

Hopefully that isn't too confusing to follow. Thanks.

Yeah, continuing that new game in a "real" way was never intended. It was always just meant as a quick test to determine if the cause of the problem had been solved. Then you can either try to continue your old save by pseudo-cleaning it (or trying some of the savegame cleaning tools on Nexus but I have no own experience with them). Or you have to make a complete new full play-through with a new game.

 

You can't just start one isolated quest close to the end of the mod and expect it to set everything up in the way all the other quests before would have left the world.

 

To reiterate, your choices are:

1. Try and pseudo-clean your old save so that you can continue it (with possible problems later on)
2. Start a complete new save and play from the beginning (at the cost of having to repeat almost the entire mod)

Pick your poison.

[whowhatzz]

i just finished the rubber interrogation and i cant find the mistress anywhere, this may be scripted but ive got no quest marker either, help would be appreciated

 

[greyspammer]

i just finished the rubber interrogation and i cant find the mistress anywhere, this may be scripted but ive got no quest marker either, help would be appreciated

The Mistress should not move during the quest. In fact, the quest explicitly instructs her to remain in the lobby all the time. You can probably use the console to move her to you once you are back in the Tower lobby (prid xx067a9b, moveto player).

 

Otherwise, check the stage of the quest (sqv tir_twr_interrogate01). After the interrogation, when you are about to report your findings, it should be 40.

[whowhatzz]

 

i just finished the rubber interrogation and i cant find the mistress anywhere, this may be scripted but ive got no quest marker either, help would be appreciated

The Mistress should not move during the quest. In fact, the quest explicitly instructs her to remain in the lobby all the time. You can probably use the console to move her to you once you are back in the Tower lobby (prid xx067a9b, moveto player).

 

Otherwise, check the stage of the quest (sqv tir_twr_interrogate01). After the interrogation, when you are about to report your findings, it should be 40.

 

Thank you very much, I love story driven mods like this. Its working fine now, but I also noticed that the mistress has started walking towards the door, probably a me problem, so thanks for you help.

[greyspammer]

Ok, it looks like the rubber squeaking sounds are in!

 

I have yet to do some longer testing, but for the moment, they seem to work and not cause any undue load (at least on my rig).

 

By the way: They do not replace the random text message (but the message will say something else). Instead, the rubber will randomly squeak whenever you are moving (running, walking, sprinting, sneaking). How often - and if at all - will be configurable.

[Farmthat]

Ok, it looks like the rubber squeaking sounds are in!

 

I have yet to do some longer testing, but for the moment, they seem to work and not cause any undue load (at least on my rig).

 

By the way: They do not replace the random text message (but the message will say something else). Instead, the rubber will randomly squeak whenever you are moving (running, walking, sprinting, sneaking). How often - and if at all - will be configurable.

 

Good to hear!

 

I think it sounds like a great addition for immersion.

[Abbey Chase]

Ok, it looks like the rubber squeaking sounds are in!

 

I have yet to do some longer testing, but for the moment, they seem to work and not cause any undue load (at least on my rig).

 

By the way: They do not replace the random text message (but the message will say something else). Instead, the rubber will randomly squeak whenever you are moving (running, walking, sprinting, sneaking). How often - and if at all - will be configurable.

 

Fabulous, I can't wait for the next release!!! Your work deserves to be on Patreon or something, it's a totally awesome mod!

[LidiaSun]

Interesting line of quests nice idea but (always there is a "but") I don't really know if it is only my view, there is so few sexy approach in the whole line of quests although there were plenty of opportunities to be mixed from inspecting the knew rubber slave through sex training up to the end. Also I didn't really like traveling across half Skyrim with the gear for the pony race too much waste of time and having everything chase you without any possibility of defending your self. The whole story is very good and the playthrough with a lot of LL mods has gone well few ctd which probably was caused by the many mods but nothing critical. Main problem was to move to Khurvangard and the best answer in the forum was in page 63 post 1254 from dnoah to use console for moving ( coc tir_Khurvangard01 ). The epilogue quest didn't start quickly so I used the console commands to start it bypassing the courier and last I have stuck in the boon quest where I am freezed on the main hall without any ability to move waiting the Mistress to claim my only favor but she doesn't appear even after four days time waiting (used the "T") so I don't know if there is more in the end or just a simple bug, my personal opinion on a good mod.

 

 

 

 

p.s. a small problem also to solve with devious devices which are locked... 

[slutofshades]

Interesting line of quests nice idea but (always there is a "but") I don't really know if it is only my view, there is so few sexy approach in the whole line of quests although there were plenty of opportunities to be mixed from inspecting the knew rubber slave through sex training up to the end. Also I didn't really like traveling across half Skyrim with the gear for the pony race too much waste of time and having everything chase you without any possibility of defending your self. The whole story is very good and the playthrough with a lot of LL mods has gone well few ctd which probably was caused by the many mods but nothing critical. Main problem was to move to Khurvangard and the best answer in the forum was in page 63 post 1254 from dnoah to use console for moving ( coc tir_Khurvangard01 ). The epilogue quest didn't start quickly so I used the console commands to start it bypassing the courier and last I have stuck in the boon quest where I am freezed on the main hall without any ability to move waiting the Mistress to claim my only favor but she doesn't appear even after four days time waiting (used the "T") so I don't know if there is more in the end or just a simple bug, my personal opinion on a good mod.

 

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p.s. a small problem also to solve with devious devices which are locked... 

 

Oddly enough, it was the fact that I played through this quest mod, without endless processions of sex and groin thrusting that made me fall in love with it, back when it ended at the party.

 

As for the missing Mistress, a solution would be to select Her in console using PRID and do a moveto player command.... although the fact that the courier was bypassed (assuming using setstage or similar) may have borked something internally too.

[greyspammer]

I don't really know if it is only my view, there is so few sexy approach in the whole line of quests

 

 

Not sure if I got that. If your criticism is that there should be more sex, my answer is this: The current "lack" of it is intended.

 

I tried to make a story-driven fetish mod with at least some level of sophistication. Not a cheap porn video which starts with the repairman driving up to the house and 2 minutes later, he's banging the MILF and her daughter in the kitchen.

 

I avoided this whole in-your-face sex stuff on purpose. Because first, there are already a lot of mods out there that let you do that. And second because it helps to build the tease. It's the same reason why a clothed woman can be more erotic than a naked one (edit: which is, if you can already see everything, there's nothing left to fantasize about). Just having nude bodies and sex orgies thrown at you all the time eventually dulls out everything. Where's the fun in that?

 

I focus on the fetish element, not sex or nudity. People in the mod do have sexual encounters. But it's not some dumb fucking at every turn. It happens when it makes sense to happen and fits the larger goal. It's about life in rubber. And if you have a rubber fetish, that's pretty erotic to you. If you don't, maybe this mod isn't exactly tailored to your taste. That's completely fine. There are other mods in which I don't see the appeal. It happens.

 

And most people seem to agree with my concept. A few have written to me to congratulate me on my approach. I think the only person with a criticism that went somewhere in your direction was one who wanted to be able to have sex with the Mistress. But she's not meant to be a "cheap whore" who spreads her legs for every second person in her employ. There is no need for her to reward her servants with sex. She's already the one in charge at the Tower. She can just order them to obey. Obviously, she is not a prude. I'm not totally ruling out the possibility that there may one day be a sex scene with her. But if you're ever going to be able to have sex with her, it will definitely be on her terms. Not yours.

 

And from a broader point of view, that applies to the rest of the people in the mod as well: The story is not there as an excuse to have sex. The story is there as an excuse to live out fetishes.

[wooaa]

Very well said. 

[LidiaSun]

It was not a criticism neither anything to get offended if you got and sorry if I given you this impression. It was an observation after a playthrough and my thoughts in the end of the line quests. It was although nice reading your comment and your thoughts which have guided you to make this mod.

[Abbey Chase]

 

I don't really know if it is only my view, there is so few sexy approach in the whole line of quests

 

 

Not sure if I got that. If your criticism is that there should be more sex, my answer is this: The current "lack" of it is intended.

 

I tried to make a story-driven fetish mod with at least some level of sophistication. Not a cheap porn video which starts with the repairman driving up to the house and 2 minutes later, he's banging the MILF and her daughter in the kitchen.

 

I avoided this whole in-your-face sex stuff on purpose. Because first, there are already a lot of mods out there that let you do that. And second because it helps to build the tease. It's the same reason why a clothed woman can be more erotic than a naked one (edit: which is, if you can already see everything, there's nothing left to fantasize about). Just having nude bodies and sex orgies thrown at you all the time eventually dulls out everything. Where's the fun in that?

 

I focus on the fetish element, not sex or nudity. People in the mod do have sexual encounters. But it's not some dumb fucking at every turn. It happens when it makes sense to happen and fits the larger goal. It's about life in rubber. And if you have a rubber fetish, that's pretty erotic to you. If you don't, maybe this mod isn't exactly tailored to your taste. That's completely fine. There are other mods in which I don't see the appeal. It happens.

 

And most people seem to agree with my concept. A few have written to me to congratulate me on my approach. I think the only person with a criticism that went somewhere in your direction was one who wanted to be able to have sex with the Mistress. But she's not meant to be a "cheap whore" who spreads her legs for every second person in her employ. There is no need for her to reward her servants with sex. She's already the one in charge at the Tower. She can just order them to obey. Obviously, she is not a prude. I'm not totally ruling out the possibility that there may one day be a sex scene with her. But if you're ever going to be able to have sex with her, it will definitely be on her terms. Not yours.

 

And from a broader point of view, that applies to the rest of the people in the mod as well: The story is not there as an excuse to have sex. The story is there as an excuse to live out fetishes.

 

 

Hear hear!!

[Abbey Chase]

BTW, I for one love that the mod really focuses on the fetish aspects of rubber. There's nothing wrong with sex if it relates to the sensuality associated with the rubber fetish, but I agree with the mod author that it should definitely be about rubber first and foremost. I for one can't wait for the next release seeing that there will be rubber squeaks in there !!!