EternalDamned Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I believe it only happens after you "do them a favor" such as give Lucia a septim since she is a beggar. Sexlab should already stop any possible animation for a "child" anyhow, but the text to ask for it does pop up.
germanicus Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 fishburger - Your mod is not in conflict with the rule of the forum against child's abuse. Certain mods can only "offer" sex to child in dialog form but as EthernalD. said, Sexlab has blocked any sexual act with children. So, no worries.
OldGuy879 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 no vanilla children is affected as far as I have found. I restarted with a new charactor just to find if the bug was there so far it is Lucia that is the problem but not Sofia ( Windhelm Flowseller by one of the gates ) which should also have ben add by the Heartfire DLC if I remember correctly. Maybe I should sent DLC to you as a gift at the beginning of next month send me a PM with your Steam ID if you would like at let us see if it can help with the creative juices. as far as 2.0 goes is the new quest line avoidable if I do not like (like leaving it in the questlog and never complete it or something around that line) and still have the rest that I love in
WaxenFigure Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Bug found, it appears that the "I need sex" dialog can show when you are talking to children. That dialog option needs to have a check added to exclude the children. The Sexlab Framework will still reject any sex act but the dialog option shouldn't show in the first place. Also add to the Original Post that the mod is not compatible with any "Killable Children" mod or any other mod that removes the "child" flag from child NPCs. Adding that will help you with answering the inevitable person who has such a mod installed and who then complains that the sex dialog is showing for a child AFTER you've gone and done the work to exclude children (and yes, that is the voice of experience you are hearing ). There is already an exclusion for children. Can you tell me which kid you spoke to? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/38309-cant-adopt/ -- Dialog can be seen in both of the images in that post. No exclusion on that bit of dialog though so certain conditions may allow it to show. You should be able to get away with an exclusion of children at the Quest level exclusions so you don't have to add it to every bit of dialog.
germanicus Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault.
OldGuy879 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault. I though Sexlab exlude it ? how can mods like those break it if the do not modify sexlab
WaxenFigure Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I believe it only happens after you "do them a favor" such as give Lucia a septim since she is a beggar. Sexlab should already stop any possible animation for a "child" anyhow, but the text to ask for it does pop up. Give them a Septim and they become a "friend" which fulfills the condition on that dialog and allows it to appear. I think you could try giving Svari in Solitude a Septim to get the same result with a vanilla child. fishburger - Your mod is not in conflict with the rule of the forum against child's abuse. Certain mods can only "offer" sex to child in dialog form but as EthernalD. said, Sexlab has blocked any sexual act with children. So, no worries. Exactly, just tidying up because even if Sexlab won't let it happen you really don't want to even have the slight appearance that it could happen.
WaxenFigure Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault. I though Sexlab exlude it ? how can mods like those break it if the do not modify sexlab By removing all the flags that Sexlab checks for. Has already happened, have had people load up mods that remove all the child flags and then come demanding that Sexlab be fixed because they saw a child having sex in the game. (Happened with SexIs framework before Sexlab came along and with my SexAddicts mod before SexIs came along. It's a recurring theme). That's why the disclaimer is needed, to make sure you can point out to them that it's their fault if they see what should not happen. Truthfully, it is Bethesda's fault. They built the game and in testing someone killed a child and complained about it so instead of doing the obvious thing of setting the flag on each child's record to make them unkillable or telling the person "that's life" Bethesda added the child flag to the check for unkillable actors. That forced the people who decided immortal kids remaining behind when the rest of the town is wiped out is ridiculous who then created killable children mods to have to reset the child flags in order to make the children killable. It is a perfect example of how a bad decision can have repercussions they never considered.
OldGuy879 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I believe it only happens after you "do them a favor" such as give Lucia a septim since she is a beggar. Sexlab should already stop any possible animation for a "child" anyhow, but the text to ask for it does pop up. Give them a Septim and they become a "friend" which fulfills the condition on that dialog and allows it to appear. I think you could try giving Svari in Solitude a Septim to get the same result with a vanilla child. fishburger - Your mod is not in conflict with the rule of the forum against child's abuse. Certain mods can only "offer" sex to child in dialog form but as EthernalD. said, Sexlab has blocked any sexual act with children. So, no worries. Exactly, just tidying up because even if Sexlab won't let it happen you really don't want to even have the slight appearance that it could happen. Right on the mark with Svari I just fast travel to Solitut and gave her a coin it was enough to trigger the dialog.
germanicus Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault. I though Sexlab exlude it ? how can mods like those break it if the do not modify sexlab I'm not a programmer so I do not know how they do that! Counter question: how this mod can initiate sex with children if it doesn't support it and doesn't modify SL? Also, giving a con to a poor kid, is Vanilla's dialog, that increase relationship with the poor. Every mod that has sex dialog and sex involvement can bring this up. (Submit, Romance, Puppet Master and so on). So, sex dialog is not initially from this mod.
OldGuy879 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault. I though Sexlab exlude it ? how can mods like those break it if the do not modify sexlab I'm not a programmer so I do not know how they do that! Counter question: how this mod can initiate sex with children if it doesn't support it and doesn't modify SL? To be honest I do not know which why I asked in the first place I am a programmer but I do not have any experience with CK. As for you question it does not execute the sceen but the dialog does happen when you give them a coin which what I was looking for when. I have not tried pressing the dialog so I do not know what happen but my guess qould be that the npc ai scrip restarts again because it was idle. @WaxenFigure as for you repile to my question thanks it clears up a great deal
WaxenFigure Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault. I though Sexlab exlude it ? how can mods like those break it if the do not modify sexlab I'm not a programmer so I do not know how they do that! Counter question: how this mod can initiate sex with children if it doesn't support it and doesn't modify SL? This mod can't initiate sex with children on its own, it would have to be used in conjunction with other mods that remove all the flags that are checked. The major key is any mod that removes the "child" flag (which is not the only item that gets checked by Sexlab) can cause inappropriate dialogs to show and allow an attempt at sex with a child even if it is prevented. When that happens it is not the fault of the mod with the dialog if they've got the check for the "child" flag on that dialog, it's the fault of the user who loads a mod that resets that flag; again, why the disclaimer needs to be in place. I think that's enough on this subject for now, lets return this thread to more important subjects.
germanicus Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 If you can have a sex with children in your game, then you have mod(s) that potentially breaks SL's blocking sytem. The mod(s) like killable children, non essential children, children overhaul and other similar mods, can break that block. So, it is not this mod's fault. I though Sexlab exlude it ? how can mods like those break it if the do not modify sexlab I'm not a programmer so I do not know how they do that! Counter question: how this mod can initiate sex with children if it doesn't support it and doesn't modify SL? To be honest I do not know which why I asked in the first place I am a programmer but I do not have any experience with CK. As for you question it does not execute the sceen but the dialog does happen when you give them a coin which what I was looking for when. I have not tried pressing the dialog so I do not know what happen but my guess qould be that the npc ai scrip restarts again because it was idle. When I did testing of some mods, I had to test it on children. Thanks to SL, nothing happens after offering the sex to child. The game either crush, freezes or the kid simply walks away.
OldGuy879 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 thanks germanicus and WaxenFigure you have both be very help in answering my question I am a noob when it comes to modding of skyrim so I do ask to many questions sometime
germanicus Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 No problem oldguy. Someone said: it is better to ask then be left in ignorance.
OldGuy879 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 No problem oldguy. Someone said: it is better to ask then be left in ignorance. True one I live by but most do not have the patient for it though thanks again @fishburger67 the Bondage and Rape is in the current stat is not excess so it does not bothering me like the other there is. I even think it is actually cute how they react to it ( one othe reason I love the mod ) other where it extents to a beat down is both to much and bothers a bit me which is why I do not use them.
fishburger67 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Posted October 21, 2014 no vanilla children is affected as far as I have found. I restarted with a new charactor just to find if the bug was there so far it is Lucia that is the problem but not Sofia ( Windhelm Flowseller by one of the gates ) which should also have ben add by the Heartfire DLC if I remember correctly. Maybe I should sent DLC to you as a gift at the beginning of next month send me a PM with your Steam ID if you would like at let us see if it can help with the creative juices. as far as 2.0 goes is the new quest line avoidable if I do not like (like leaving it in the questlog and never complete it or something around that line) and still have the rest that I love in Oldguy You are gonna want to do the new quest. It is awesome if I do say so myself even if you just do the coc thing.
fishburger67 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Posted October 21, 2014 Bug found, it appears that the "I need sex" dialog can show when you are talking to children. That dialog option needs to have a check added to exclude the children. The Sexlab Framework will still reject any sex act but the dialog option shouldn't show in the first place. Also add to the Original Post that the mod is not compatible with any "Killable Children" mod or any other mod that removes the "child" flag from child NPCs. Adding that will help you with answering the inevitable person who has such a mod installed and who then complains that the sex dialog is showing for a child AFTER you've gone and done the work to exclude children (and yes, that is the voice of experience you are hearing ). There is already an exclusion for children. Can you tell me which kid you spoke to? http://www.loverslab.com/topic/38309-cant-adopt/ -- Dialog can be seen in both of the images in that post. No exclusion on that bit of dialog though so certain conditions may allow it to show. ICouldUseSomeSex.png You should be able to get away with an exclusion of children at the Quest level exclusions so you don't have to add it to every bit of dialog. Thank you so much waxen, you did all my work for me. Fixed in the next version.
aqqh Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 You are gonna want to do the new quest. It is awesome if I do say so myself even if you just do the coc thing. Stop teasing, will ya?
fishburger67 Posted October 21, 2014 Author Posted October 21, 2014 You are gonna want to do the new quest. It is awesome if I do say so myself even if you just do the coc thing. Stop teasing, will ya? This script is all your idea aqqh, so you already know the general idea. Just waiting on these killer voices which should be done by the end of the week.
OldGuy879 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 You are gonna want to do the new quest. It is awesome if I do say so myself even if you just do the coc thing. Stop teasing, will ya? This script is all your idea aqqh, so you already know the general idea. Just waiting on these killer voices which should be done by the end of the week. Do not worry I will try I am already am big fan of this mod and what you have do with it. Anything else would be rude of me and if Aqqh had a had in the version already out then I guess that make me a fan of him too
fishburger67 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Posted October 23, 2014 Looking for two people to beta the 2.0 version over the weekend. You gotta have a 20+ save game without Sex Slaves in it and you have to promise to keep quite about the content until I release it. If you are interested, PM me.
nyctophilia Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 FYI: Versions 15, 16, 17 Storing, then reacquiring (e.g. Diplomatic Immunity) the "Mias Castle Master Key" restarts the "Free Jenny Winglow" quest. Which can be cleared with "SetStage MiaFreePrisoner1 40" or through dialogue with Jenny.
fishburger67 Posted October 23, 2014 Author Posted October 23, 2014 FYI: Versions 15, 16, 17 Storing, then reacquiring (e.g. Diplomatic Immunity) the "Mias Castle Master Key" restarts the "Free Jenny Winglow" quest. Which can be cleared with "SetStage MiaFreePrisoner1 40" or through dialogue with Jenny. Thanks, fixing that now.
dragenx Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Got a question I took Uthgerd the Unbroken as a follower then went to Vernor to train her as a slave now ever time I talk to him keep telling me come back later she not ready in game time it been weeks and still the same. Can I bring another follower to get train or do I got wait till he is done went every that is
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