Popular Post fejeena Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Oblivion install game,tools,bodies,BBB,Mod sorting and cleaning,CS-CSE 1. Game installation, Load order and Mod cleaning 2. Problems during gameplay: saves, A bomb, Penis-breast stretching. 3. Other Tips: CS/CSE and Merging Mods Other threads you should read: Newbies: 5 simple ways to avoid most crashes and bugs: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugs/ ____________________________________________________________________ 1. Game installation, Load order and Mod cleaning ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A little Basics. You need Oblivion (and ShiveringIsles if you want to play LoversMods) and patch1.2.0416 Do not install Oblivion in the folder specified by the game Installation program ( C:\ program files .....), Change it, best not in C (if your Windows crashed/virus and you must delete whole C all your mods are gone). Problem are the fucking administrator rights, some Oblivion programs do not work right with the standart Folder, or you have Problems to overwrite files,...... OBSE and "archive invalidate" can have problems to function properly. Or more frequent ConstructionSet CTDs . Moving Steam and game Folder https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327 And here a german discription https://help.steampowered.com/de/faqs/view/4BD4-4528-6B2E-8327 Do not use NEXUS Modmanager ! or Vortex . This is not "I hate Nexus" comment! No! Never install Mods with NMM or you will ( can ) have missing files. If you use Wrye Bash: Never Lovers, Tamago, Hiyoko Mods in the BashedPatch ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DirectX Oblivion needs old DirectX files. Since Win7 ,or higher, they are no longer in the standard installation. You must install "DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)" english https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109 other languages https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/download/details.aspx?id=353 Visual C++ Redistributables ( for the construction set ) from 2005 to to newest. Oblivion was made with the 2005 version so you need it. But maybe the 2010 version is sufficient ( I always install all ) Visual C++ most microsoft download are dead , but here the 2010 version https://www.loverslab.com/topic/168479-required-file-visual-c-2010-redist-x86-for-cse-is-in-this-topic/___________________________________________________________________________________ Installation: Install Oblivion and the DLCs you want. Of course not in C:\ program files (x86) .... If you have Steam move also Steam out of program files (x86) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- set compatibility mode: In your game folder Bethesda/Oblivion/ you have oblivion.exe and oblivionLauncher.exe Right click the exe - click properties click - compatibility Set compatibility to: Windows XP /Service Pack 3) You can try different modes to see which works best on your computer. And and below set: run Program as Adiminstratior click Apply Spoiler -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now test your game. Create a character and play some time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Basics tools you need: ! Best you install the basic tools manually. Some of them can not be installed with modmanagers. -OBSE 20 or 21 http://obse.silverlock.org/ NON-STEAM VERSION OF OBLIVION 1. Copy obse_1_2_416.dll, obse_editor_1_2.dll, and obse_loader.exe (OBSE21 also the data folder) to your Oblivion folder. This is the folder that contain files called "Oblivion.exe" and "OblivionLauncher.exe". Not in the data folder ! 2. Run oblivion by running obse_loader.exe from the Oblivion Directory. STEAM VERSION OF OBLIVION 1.Copy obse_1_2_416.dll , obse_editor_1_2.dll , and obse_steam_loader.dll (OBSE21 also the data folder) to your Oblivion Folder. 2. Ensure you have enabled the Steam community in-game, or OBSE will fail to load. Go to Steam > Settings > In-Game and check the box marked "Enable Steam Community In-Game". 3. Launch Oblivion via Steam or by running Oblivion.exe. OBSE will automatically be run along with Oblivion when launched. enabled the Steam community: go to your steam game library, right click on Oblivion, properties, steam overlay Checkbox. I have no Steam Oblivion , so here example with Fallout (and german Steam) Can be done in Offline mode without internet Connection. Steam and Mod Organizer 1. You have to manually install any OBSE DLL files to the Oblivion install directory because Mod Organizer doesn't handle them properly. 2. now (re)start mod organiser. 3. go to settings button and then to work around tab. if you installed obse correctly, a new option in load mechanism will be available besides mod organiser called script extender. Select it and save and exit the settings. 4. select the drop down menu right of the run button and select edit option. 5. enter a title: e.g. OblivionOBSEexe in the Binary line press the three dots button and seletct the steam.exe in the Arguments line you write "-applaunch 22330" ( without the quotations ) Then press close 6. select the drop down menu right of the run button and select OblivionOBSEexe ( or the name you use ) 7. Now you cun Oblivion from Steam or the Oblivion.exe And the install video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLG6KZBd1Lo And here also a description how to use OBSE https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37952 And for MO users (Mod Organicer2 ) And MO2 with OBSE see https://github.com/ModOrganizer2/modorganizer/wiki/Running-Oblivion-OBSE-with-MO2 And if you have other problems with MO maybe you find a solution here https://forum.step-project.com/forum/78-mod-organizer-oblivion-support/ -Pluggy 132 or 125c http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/23979/ I noticed that the Oblivion Animation fixer (OAF) not works with Pluggy 132. ( OAF see below: 2. Problems during gameplay. A Bomb fix ) When you fix a save and load the game with the fixed save the game freezes or black screen and no controls work. So I switched back to Pluggy 125c ( I used 132 since June 2016 the first time. ) -Elys Universal Silent Voice http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/16622/ -MenuQue: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/32200/? -Oblivion Modmanager http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/2097/ or the newer TESMM http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/5010/ . NOT the NexusMM or Vortex ! Oblivion Modmanager you need to install OMods or unpack OMods. - Custom Race fix http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/1815/ ( if you use the Unofficial Oblivion Patch you don't need the Custom Race fix) - Boethia Shrine Custom Race Fix http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/3500/ ( if you use the Unofficial Oblivion Patch you don't need the Boethia Shrine Custom Race Fix ) A german Mod that fix both: game start with custom race and the Boethia shrine quest. Raceenabler v1.02 http://www.ei-der-zeit.com/portal/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=741 English Translation by me Raceenabler EV.7z ( if you use the Unofficial Oblivion Patch you don't need it ) - Wrye Bash - I recommend version 295: http://sourceforge.net/projects/oblivionworks/files/Wrye%20Bash/Wrye%20Bash%20295/ ( I don't use Wrye Bash. ! Never Lovers, Tamago, Hiyoko Mods in the Bashed Patch! And gregathit posted: Use 295 version of WryeBash. The "new" versions were made for Skyrim and don't worth a shit for Oblivion. ) WryeBash can not install OMods or files in subfolders. - Khajiit Female Texture Fix http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/40048/ This mod fixes the incorrect Khajiit Female Textures path ( don't know if the fix is also in the Unofficial Oblivion Patch) For some Lovers Mods ( Pregnancy Mods) or "Set Body reloaded" you need Blockhead ( a OBSE plugin) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/43752/? --------------------------------------------- ! ! ! Good installation tips. Oblivion optimization and less crashes. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/49447 --------------------------------------------- Other useful Tools you can use: ! optionally ! Fast Exit2 http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/22410/ Fast Exit is included in Oblivion Stutter Remover. Oblivion Stutter Remover (OSR) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/23208/ Stutter Remover installation Unpack the ComponentDLLs-23208-1.zip Copy the data folder in your Oblivion folder. Unpack the ComponentDLLs-23208-1.zip copy the 4 dll files. Open your game folder Oblivion\data\OBSE\Plugins and check if you have a ComponentDLLs folder. If not create a new folder in the Plugins folder with name: ComponentDLLs Copy the 4 dll files in the ComponentDLLs folder And some example ini you can check or use: Oblivion Stutter Remover Optimized https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/48959 Oblivion Stutter Remover Sound Fix https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47439 Ultimate Oblivion Stutter Removal for WIndows 10 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/49020 Oblivion Display Tweaks https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/50348?tab=description OCPS (Oblivion crash protection System) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/22282/ ( download removed from Nexus. Have not found a new download Link ) A new crash protection System https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/53635/ yes it is for Oblivion. 4GB patcher http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php or this http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45576/ clean up http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/24606/ Fast Travel Double Face Fix http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34753/ It's also part of the "EngineBugFixes" , see below. ENB Boost http://enbdev.com/patch_oblivion_enboost_v0259.htm EngineBugFixes https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47085 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now test your game. Start it with OBSE. Create a character and play some time. (NEVER use the OblivionLauncher.exe) You start with Oblivion.exe (or Steam) The OblivionLauncher.exe messes up the load order, so never click it ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now Mod installation: Always unpack Mods before you install ! ! ! Check if the folders are right. Correct folders if necessary. Delete things you don't want (e.g. after you have installed a BBB skeletons or LAPF you don't want that a later installed Mod overwrite the skeletons. But in some BBB armor-clothes Mods, race Mods, animation Mods, ... are skeletons, so you delete the skeletons before you install the new Mod. Only OblivionModmanager can install OMods. WryeBash and OblivionModmanager can not check and choose subfolder for you, you have to do it in the unpacked Mod, put what you want in the right folders and then use WryeBash to install or create an OMod or install manually. nude Body mods: There are so many, so many Cup sizes.....but it must be a HGEC Body mod for females( HGES a Cup to K Cup, or Double melons, Double melons round ass, Manga Body,....) and Robert's Body for males if you want to play Lovers. Good Body and textures see the LAPF Spoiler For Males: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/40532/?This Mod comes with full armor and clothes replacers. Default LAPF uses Robert's Muscular body. For females: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34442/? HGEC Body with BBB v1.12 Default LAPF uses the LL lower body. Most animations are tuned to Hcup but you can use any cup size smaller than that with very few issues. A few animations that have tit grabbing will be slightly off but there are not many of those. I also recommend grabbing the "HGEC foot fix" as it changes blocky toes into more natural looking ones. You can get the female foot nif file here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/9488-rel-hgec-gm-type-with-roberts-feet/ ! In this Mod are no HGEC textures for Shivering Isle Dark Seducers and Golden Saint. And no armor/clothes replacer in this Mod ! The HGEC Mod is an OMod ! You need Oblivion Modmanger to install it ( or unpack it and put the body you want in the right folders and then install manually or with WyreBash ) some HGEC body textures: ( with Dark Seducers and Golden Saint) F-INevOblivion skinset for EC and HGEC http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/19021/ High Rez Skin Textures for HGEC http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/20022/ ( the 2048x2048 if you don't want to have Frame problems) There are lot more HGEC Textures Mods. A seam fix for HGEC bodies : http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/19738/ If you have problems with the OMod above, the "HGEC Body with BBB v1.12" file. Maybe you use only WryeBash or MO2 but no Oblivion Modmanager here some bodies and textures to start with. HGEC AA to H and DMRA and textures for all races including SI. HGEC Body All Textures.7z Some female armor clothes replacers: -BBB armor clothes E-Cup replacer (very skimpy) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/16750/ the E Cup in the optimal section with the fixes (not the D Cup, it's no BBB) -Manga Body addon for the skimpy replacer above (Manga Body is "H Cup with puffy Nippels" ) http://www.mediafire.com/download/3xctaihwoicbdba/VerySkimpyStockClothingArmorHGEC_and_BBB_HGEC-Manga.7z install the skimpy E Cup Mod first, then the Manga addon. -------- -A-Cup armor-clothes replacer ( no BBB) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/33086/ Download UltimoteAcupArmorReplacer10 and UltimoteAcupClothingReplacer11 -------- -D-Cup BBB (not skimpy) armor and clothes replacer and male. Male not complete . There's a extra file with many alternate versions , some very skimpy. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45241 --------- -E-Cup and/or C cup armor-clothes replacer http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/24078/ I never used this Mod but seems there are 3 Versions in one OMod. C Cup , E Cup and a EBE E-Cup And you should install the extra esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp and EVE. Read the instructions !!! there is a lot of stuff you don't need, like Body textures ( you have race Body textures) You must download EVE_HGEC_BodyStock and Clothing OMOD or EVE_HGEC_BodyStock and Clothing Wrye Bash BAIN and EVEUpperShirt04CcupFix It is no BBB ! Here a E Cup BBB update (must be installed after the above file) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34324/ ------- -DMRA BBB armor-clothes replacer http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/42033/ Download DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer. Seamless addon https://www.loverslab.com/topic/134340-req-seamless-quipment-dmra-edition/ And a "not so skimpy" addon https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/52649 and a -DMRA GUTS replacer https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/43528 ------------------ -DMRA no BBB armor and clothes https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/29107 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28992 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28912 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28650 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28607 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28288 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/28037 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/27931 And here the BBB addons https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/34083 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/33909 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/33716 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/33688 https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/33644 ------- -DMRA Manga Body https://www.loverslab.com/topic/180313-my-dmra-manga-convesions-bbbbutt-active-complete/#comment-3853540 ----------------------- -HFB HGEC Fantasy Body Replacer ( in parts 1 to 5) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6830-aves-mod-selection/page-6?do=findComment&comment=1017458 ------------------------- boobalicious huge boobed : body and full armor clothes replacer BBB http://www.loverslab.com/topic/62153-boobalicious-huge-boobed-armor-and-clothes-replacer/?do=findComment&comment=1644704 --------------------------------------- Oblivion Muscle Girl body. You need Blockhead. You don't need Oblivion Character Overhaul 2 you can use other HGEC Body textures. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/46343?tab=files ---------------------------------------------------- Search Nexus and Loverslab for more armor and clothes replacers. e.g. Nexus User "Nailflan" made a lot of small Cup BBB armors and clothes you can use as replacers if you have some knowledge about modding. A lot of BBB replacers for vanilla and Mod armor and clothes you find here https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/users/708478?tab=user+files You can add BBB to any armor,clothing and body with MeshRigger. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/24797-mesh-rigger-skyrim-fallout-oblivion-beta89f-10-26-2014/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Skeleton for bouncing animations (BBB) To have bouncing breasts in game you need BBB skeleton and BBB body and BBB animations. Then naked females have bouncing breasts. You need BBB armor and clothes replacer/Mods too have dressed females with bouncing breasts. ( BBB Body and clothes; see above) Growlf's Universal skeleton ( the controllable version, not the total controllable version ) : http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37596/? If you don't use LAPF this is all you need. (NOTE: You will be overwritting a portion of this when you install LAPF so don't panic.) You can check your Folders if you have the right Skeleton ( not overwritten by another Mod) data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 94KB Universal Skeleton ( or 95KB LAPF Skeletons) data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif must be 53KB Universal Skeleton ( or 58KB LAPF Skeletons) !!! Edit: in the LAPF version 1.6a1 the first Person skeleton is included ! So you must not install Growlf's Universal Skeleton if you use LAPF. If you don't use LAPF but want BBB Body, clothes and animations you must install Growlf's Universal Skeleton. !!! If you install other Mods ( especially animation, pose, BBB armor and clothes Mods) check if there is a skeleton in the Mod ! Delete it before installation or don't let it overwrite the Universal skeleton !!! ( Or your LAPF Skeleton is overwritten ( if you use Lovers/LAPF) and your body will have stretched penis and butt during sex ) BBB animations: I recommend NoMaam: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/35551/? There are subfolders, different versions you can choose. Unpack the Mod and install manually or put what you want in the right folder and then use WyreBash or create an OMod. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- archive invalidate: or SkyBSA You need it so that the game uses the loose folders. Normally the game will first check the packed bsa files and only if there is not the right mesh or texture the game checks the loose folders. But in this way, no mesh or textures replacer would work. archive invalidate: !!! If your game is installed in C : / program files (x86) .... archive invalidate will not work right !!!! Now you need to use either Wrye or OBMM to archive invalidate via Bsa Redirection, or you have Problems with replacers (clothes, armors or Body textures) You must set "archive invalidate" in the Oblivion modmanager only one time and never again. Or you can use Wrye Bash ( I don't use it) http://cs.elderscrolls.com/Oblivion_Mods_FAQ#BSA-redirection Check your Oblivion.ini if the archive invalidate changes are inside The Oblivion.ini is in My documents\my games\Oblivion (german: Eigene Dokumente\My Games\Oblivion) ! NOT the Oblivion_default.ini in your Oblivion game Folder ! Some users, mostly Steam version users, often experience archive invalidation via Bsa Redirection refuse to work because of Oblivion.ini lock or something, even if they do it properly. Mostly if you have install Oblivion in the folder specified by the Installation ( C:\ programfiles.....), In this case, one must check out their Oblivion.ini and make sure that "sArchiveList" entry is looking like this: ( sArchiveList is near the end of the ini) OblivionMod Manager archive invalidate: sArchiveList=..\obmm\BSARedirection.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa WryeBash archive invalidate: sArchiveList=ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa If the entry is not there add it and save the ini You can also do archive invalidate without OBMM or Wrye. All you need is a empty dummy bsa file. You put it in your data folder, name it e.g. ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa Then add the dummy bsa name in your Oblivion ini. e.g. sArchiveList=ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa You must not do anything in OBMM or Wrye. Here a empty bsa file with name "ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa" (If you don't know how to create a empty bsa file ) ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.7z --------- SkyBSA: The best solution, easy and reliable. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/49568 You do not need Archive Invalidation, a dummy bsa ,.... You only install the OBSE plugin SkyBSA.dll in data\OBSE\Plugins and no more porblems with bsa and loose folders. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now test your game. Start it with OBSE. (NEVER use the OblivionLauncher.exe) Create a character and play some time. Now a good time to backup your basic installation in case things go wrong with installing additional Mods ( Folder in another hard disk partition, external hard drive, burn a DVD,....) Also backup your Oblivion.ini before you make changes ( e.g. remove the in game borders, and other Settings) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INI changes Oblivion.ini in My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\ open the INI, use the search function ScreenShots: bAllowScreenShot 0 = No, 1 = Yes in game use the print key Disable Intro Sequence: This will disable the logos at Startup SIntroSequence <Default: bethesda softworks HD720p.bik,2k games.bik,game studios.bik,Oblivion Legal.bik> remove all values to have no videos at startup. Remove Borders: the invisible borders around Cyrodiil bBorderRegionsEnabled 0 = Off, 1 = On Instant Level Up - This will make it so when you gain enough skill to level up, it happens automatically, no sleeping needed. bInstantLevelUp 0 = No, 1 = Yes Multi-core CPU tweaks If you have a Dual/Quad core Processor or a processor with Hyper-Threading, then set these values to this: bUseThreadedBlood=1 (default 0) bUseThreadedMorpher=1 (default 0) bUseThreadedTempEffects=1 (default 0) bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1 (default 0) bUseBackgroundPathing=1 (default 0) bUseBackgroundFileLoader=1 (default 0) iNumHavokThreads=3 (default 1) iThreads=10 (default 3) bDebugFaceGenMultithreading=1 bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1 bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1 __________________________ more ini settings http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Ini_Settings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now test your game. Start it with OBSE. (NEVER use the OblivionLauncher.exe) Create a character and play some time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now you can install Lovers/LAPF if you want. Or other Mods ! Remember ! never unzip Mods in your game Folder, that's the best way to mess up your game. Always unpack in an empty Folder, check what's inside, correct folder structure if necessary, delete Skeletons so they can not overwrite your BBB/LAPF Skeleton. Also mods in OMOD Format ! first extract the OMod, check it, clean the esp . Then you can install manually or create a OMod or install with WryeBash. ( ! Never Lovers, Tamago, Hiyoko Mods in the Bashed Patch! ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lovers/LAPF Start small! Do not install all Lovers Mods you can find. You will not know which mod adds which functions or spells, or what the mods do. Install the LAPF framework and then 1-3 Lovers Mods and test all functions, settings and if you like the Mod. Then install the next lovers Mod. And sort your Mods ! See below: Load order - Mod sorting: only some basic tips/Infos: LAPF ( the Sex Framework, without Mods no sex! ) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21241-lapf/ LoversCreatures2 ( the Creatures Sex Framework) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/14619-lovers-creatures-20/ All Lovers Mods with creatures needs LoversCreatures2. LoversCreatures2 must be installed after LAPF ! LAPF and LoversCreatures2 are the Framework Mods, they do nothing without additional Mods. LAPF is for Human-Human sex. LoversCreatures for Creatures-Human sex. The Lovers Supplemental Plugin Pack ( Mods adapted to LAPF ) http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/355-lovers-supplemental-plugin-pack/ most Lovers Mods here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/6799-lovers-plugin-index-with-direct-links/ and in the download section http://www.loverslab.com/files/category/5-lovers-with-pk/ Bug fix: After installing LAPF you must give Sheogorath the right skeleton. Sheogorath has a own skeleton ( meshes\Characters\_Male\skeletonSESheogorath.nif ) And this skeleton is not replaced by a LAPF skeleton, so Sheogorath will have penis stretching during sex. How to fix it: You have the LAPF skeleton in your game folder: data\meshes\characters\_male\skeleton.nif Create a copy and rename the copy to skeletonSESheogorath.nif Never change the penis setting! The default setting " Slof's boners! v3/v4 (Automatic) " is the only one that works with the LAPF animations. Only this setting uses the lower bodies with penis and butt bones. With other lower bodies you have no animated penis and butt during sex. Tips: MB2 ( = Masturbation) in the LAPF download, or a modified version http://www.loverslab.com/topic/46085-lovers-mb2/ Sex via Dialog: Lovers Adult Play Plus for SSP Lovers Voice SSP Plus Rape: during fight Lovers Rapers http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/101-lovers-rapers-wappyones-edition/ Rape/stalk: Joburg LSM and LSMN Slave Mods: LoversSlaveTrader with BravilUnderground (it's also a big quest Mod. You need LoversCreatures2 ) Creatures Sex: ( of course you need LoversCreatures2 ) LoversBitch Gone Wild LoversHorseRider Prostitution: LoversHooker And "Mods that are not compatible with Lovers" http://www.loverslab.com/topic/12494-mods-that-are-not-compatible-with-lovers/ -------------------------------------------------- Missing animation message during gameplay: see below 2. Problems during gameplay. "Missing Animations" -------------------------------------------------- If you want to use the "first camera Mode" in the Lovers Settings you need the first camera OBSE plugin http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/44337/? ( ! Never Lovers, Tamago, Hiyoko Mods in the Bashed Patch! ) A Lovers note, instruction: How to create "Only-Player-Futa" with Set Body and Lovers. see post 103 ( page 6) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/page-6?do=findComment&comment=1786216 _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Load order - Mod sorting: Use BOSS ! NOT LOOT ! BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) http://boss-developers.github.io/ Program to sort your Mods ( use after you have installed your Mods ) If you only want the Masterlist github until 5.2020 https://github.com/boss-developers/oblivion/blob/master/masterlist.txt And afkmods 2021+ https://www.afkmods.com/index.php?/files/file/2390-boss-masterlist-for-oblivion/ ! you must have an account to download it ! The 11.2021 masterlist masterlist11282021.txt Run BOSS, then sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually in the Oblivion Mod manager (All mods that BOSS does not know are placed at the end of the load order. You MUST sort this Mods! ) You sort the unsorted Mods like: clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically within the categories. Then sort your Lovers Mods (Boss does not sort Lovers Mods right) Load order here in the Spoiler http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ or see my Example Load Order below. There is also the new BOSS program LOOT (Load Order Optimisation Tool) But I saw some LOOT sorted load orders ....a mess ! Tip: if you use Lovers (and Tamago) read "Mods that are not compatible with Lovers" http://www.loverslab.com/topic/12494-mods-that-are-not-compatible-with-lovers/ If you use WryeBash and create a Bashed Patch: ! Never Lovers, Tamago, Hiyoko Mods in the Bashed Patch! BOSS Problem and manual sorting Mods: After you have run BOSS all the Mods BOSS does not know are at the end of the load order, so you sort these Mods manually; clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically within the categories. Now you add a new Mod and run BOSS again and all you manually sorted Mods are again at the end of the load order. SHIT ! you must sort them again. solution: you add the Mods BOSS does not know in the masterlist.txt You can use BOSS Master List Manager http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/29790/ Or you open the masterlist.txt with with a Notepad (Notepad++) and add the Mods in the list The masterlist.txt should be in Oblivion\Data\BOSS\Oblivion ( not sure, I have not installed BOSS ) ----------------------- Solution2: You don't run/use BOSS again. download latest Masterlist https://github.com/boss-developers/oblivion/blob/master/masterlist.txt Open the masterlist.txt with Notepad++ Notepad++ http://notepad-plus-plus.org/ on the left click "download" to obtain the latest version. German: http://www.chip.de/downloads/Notepad_12996935.html Search a new Mod ( esm/esp) with Notepad++ 1 click "search" 2 click "find" 3 in the new window enter the Mod name 4 click "find next" If BOSS know the Mod you have the line number of the new Mod. Now search some of your sorted Mods ( if the new Mod is a clothes/armor Mod search your sorted clothes/armor Mods till you have found the Mods ( Line numbers ) above and below you new Mod. Place your new Mod between these two Mods. Or if you do not want to search every time your old sorted mods create a txt file of your Load order and add the Line numbers behind the Mods. To get your load order with OBMM: Just hit import/export, then view load order, then copy/save it as txt file. To get your load order with Wrye Bash: Just right click on one of the column headers (doesn't matter which one) and select "list mods", then copy/save it as txt file. Or you can search the Oblivion "Plugins.txt" file. Click C partition and use the search function, insert Plugins.txt and hit enter. Wait and you get all Plugins.txt files ( Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout3, Fallout NV,... ) Open the file and copy the text or copy the file. Sometimes notes are behind the mods in the BOSS masterlist. example (clean it = BOSS tells you that these mods are dirty and should be cleaned with Tes4Edit. See Mod cleaning ) Because there is no more support for BOSS since LOOT was released the newest masterlist is from May 2014 and will not be changed anymore. ( the Line numbers do not change anymore because there is no new masterlist version ) Sorry , there are new Masterlist Versions. Newest masterlist.txt : Oblivion masterlist https://github.com/boss-developers/oblivion/blob/master/masterlist.txt click Raw, then copy/save the list Now you can search a new Mod with Notepad++, then check your numbered Load order.txt and add the new Mod in the right place. Example: If you search ElvenPrincess.esp you get Line number 4463. So you place the ElvenPrincess.esp below BBBRoseoftheGuard.esp 3966 ( see example picture above) If BOSS does not know the new Mod sort it in the right place; clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically within the categories. Lovers Mods: use the Lovers example Load order ( my example Load Order or http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Load order Template to sort your Mods manually Oblivion Mod:Load Order - The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP) http://wiki.theassimilationlab.com/tescosi/Load_Order#LO_Template Load order recommendations - Nexus Mods Wiki (tesnexus.com) ! After sorting your mods, it's always better to start a new game. ! Old bugs that you tried to fix by changing your load order are still in your save. And new bugs can occur with the new load order but an old save. Here a example Load Order with Mods that many people use (all DLCs), and Lovers/Tamago Mods. The numbers behind the esm/esp are the notepad++ Line numbers of the 20 Dec 2014 BOSS masterlist.txt number in ( ) is "wrong" sorted by BOSS clean it: esm/esp should be cleaned with Tes4Edit ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oblivion.esm 48 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 92 x117race.esm (308) Better Cities Resources.esm 202 BreakUndies.esm ! outdated, use BreakArmor ! ----- SPTDiverseGuards-Resources.esm 348 ----- Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm -- Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 747 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 756 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp 759 : Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings". Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 761 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 802 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp 819 Better Cities .esp 925 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 1122 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 1149 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 1346 AliveWaters.esp 1709 clean it AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 1713 clean it AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 1716 VipCxj_BulletCamera 1906 Real_Mannequin.esp 2687 VipCxj_AirSystem.esp 2877 DLCHorseArmor.esp 3434 clean it DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp 3437 DLCOrrery.esp 3449 clean it DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp 3452 DLCVileLair.esp 3473 clean it DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp 3476 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 3493 clean it DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp 3495 clean it DLCSpellTomes.esp 3532 clean it DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp 3536 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 3586 ------------------------------------------- (Items Mods - armor and weapons) AngelicArmor.esp 3756 BBBRoseoftheGuard.esp 3966 FemaleImperialDragonCuirass.esp 4518 BreakArmor.esp IrohaClothes.esp 4811 Lady Flirt.esp 4962 VA_FemmeDaedricHelmet.esp 5978 StockClothingArmorBBBHGEC_Standard_ECupLBotPPN.esp 6712 TafasSexyLingerieset02.esp 6727 --------------------------------------------- DLCThievesDen.esp 7099 clean it DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp 7102 --------------------------------------------- (GROUP: Overhauls ) FCOM, Fran's, OOO, MMM, etc --------------------------------------- (GROUP: Quests and Locations and Player houses ) Ivellon.esp 9054 clean it adTreeHome.esp 9273 clean it Astralis.esp 9281 clean it HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 10506 Hentai Mania.esp (not HentaiMania2.esp) 10509 clean it Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 10899 clean it Valenwood Improved.esp 12438 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 12498 clean it DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 12772 clean it DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp 12777 clean it DLCFrostcrag.esp 12843 clean it DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp 12855 Knights.esp 12937 clean it Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp 12951 Knights_fem.esp 12997 The Lost Spires.esp 13196 clean it AFK_Weye.esp 13245 clean it ElsweyrAnequina.esp 13401 clean it Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp 13447 clean it Elsweyr plantations & co..esp 13462 clean it Faregyl.esp 13769 Feldscar.esp 13784 HackdirtAlive.esp 13797 clean it ----------------------------------------------- (Unique Landscapes) xuldarkforest.esp 13950 (german: Unique Landscapes - Dark Forest DV.esp ) LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 13953 (other Unique Landscapes in order) Stendarr Valley The Heath Entius Gorge Fallenleaf Everglade LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp ColovianHighlands ChorrolHinterland Beaches of Cyrodiil 14060 -------------------------- HentaiMania2.esp ( not Hentai Mania.esp ) 14112 clean it ------------------------------ (other Unique Landscapes in order) Bravil Barrowfields 14143 LostSpires-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp Lush Woodlands AncientYews Ancient Redwoods Cloudtop Mountains ArriusCreek UL_Patch_AncientYews_ArriusCreek.esp / xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Rolling Hills Panther River River Ethe Brena River Ravine Imperial Isle Blackwood Forest Cheydinhal Falls Aspen Wood Skingrad Outskirts Snowdale Silverfish River Valley JerallGlacier TheEasternPeaks 14516 ---------------------------------- Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 15171 SPTDiverseGuards-Core.esp 16800 ( one of the different versions e.g. SPTDiverseGuards-Combined-Human.esp) ------------------------------------------- (Tamago and Lovers Mods) MaternityClothes.esp (16691) TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoFutureDream.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp ( a no MBP Version you can find here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24785-hiyoko-generator-brood-mother-22-may-2014/?do=findComment&comment=622895 ) HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp ( or HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp You can not use both ! ) TamagoSetBody.esp LoversSetBody.esp <----NOTE: This plugin is outdated. I don't recommend folks use it anymore! LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp Do not use if you use Lovers Plunder LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversBed.esp LoversBednonstop.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp here if you use LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Pse-paybandit patch LoversPower.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp LoversHorseRider.esp/LoversHorseRider2.esp LoversAchievments.esp LoversBrothel.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp ! do not use it if you use LoversHelpRapeVPlayer ! LoversHelpRapeVPlayer ! do not use if you use LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer ! LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversAdultYield.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp ! or DarkBloodline.esp ! you can not use both ! TrueCrime was the predecessor of DarkBloodline. LoversUnicorn.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LSTaddon ....esp (only one of the 4 versions) LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversImmoralSisters.esp LoversMS14netori.esp LoversSexKariBurne.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp ( other Lovers Mods) -------------------- stripper.esp 16675 Nudeshy X.esp 16692 DarkBloodline.esp DarkBloodlinesFix.esp MadCompanionshipSpells.esp 17852 MCS extension.esp 17854 --------------------------------- SetBody.esp 18055 --------------------------------- HumantouchNPC.esp 19007 (Pose and Animation Mods) 77_Umpa_Animation.esp 19482 Chain it!.esp 19488 zzEstrus.esp 19522 Woman's Move.esp 19524 ------------------------------------------- (Race , companion, MBP Mods) Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp (or Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp) 20091 Shrridan.esp 20153 Luchaire's Dryad Race.esp 20202 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp 20215 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 19900 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Lop-ears Elf.esp 20293 eyja.esp 20403 clean it AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp 20434 Wiedergaenger Race.esp 20490 clean it ----------------------------- Khajiit Fix.esp 21430 ............................. ( only use one race fix ! KT_CustomRaceFix.esp with boethia custom race.esp OR CustomRaceFix.esp with boethia custom race.esp OR the all in one fix: Raceenabler.esp ) KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 21820 ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. CustomRaceFix.esp 21822 ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. boethia custom race.esp 21826 ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. Raceenabler.esp ! IF you have "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" Remove this and use the UOP instead. ---------------------------------------- (Better Cities Mods. NOT open cities) Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp 21838 Better Cities Full.esp 21839 --or single files -- Better Cities - Skingrad City Defences.esp 21842 Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp Better Cities - Bravil City Defences.esp Better Cities BRAVIL.esp Better Cities - Anvil City Defences.esp Better Cities ANVIL.esp Better Cities - Chorrol City Defences.esp Better Cities CHORROL.esp Better Cities - Cheydinhal City Defences.esp Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp Better Cities - Leyawiin City Defences.esp Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp Better Cities - Bruma City Defences.esp Better Cities BRUMA.esp Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp Better Cities IC Arena.esp Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp Better Cities IC Market.esp Better Cities IC Prison.esp Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp Better Cities IC Temple.esp Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp 21878 ------------------------------------------------- Bashed Patch, 0.esp LoversMB2.esp Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Note: All plugins marked in red above should be merged into your bashed patch and disabled !! NO LOVERS AND TAMAGO/HIYOKO MODS IN THE BASHED PATCH !! except LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp and LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp NOTE: Any Lovers with PK plugin not on the above list should be safe to install just above Setbody.esp - unless the mod author has a specific load order mentioned in the OP or readme.txt of their plugin. BOSS LOVERS MODS SORTING I checked the newest BOSS master list (15 Feb 2020) and the Lovers Mods are not sorted as badly as I thought. with few changes it is use able. !!! some very old and outdated Lovers Mods in the list !!!! And some very new Mods ( this year ) are in the list. Oblivion.esm ... Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm BUDungeon.esm LoversCreature.esm ... ... more esm ... ... many esp ... ... And now the whole BOSS Tamago and Lovers part, including the non-lovers mods that are in between... ... !! many outdated Lovers mods !! ... .... TamagoPlayerHUD.esp TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp TamagoBadEnd.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp TamagoDischarge.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversEncounter.esp FuroTrapCoreFramework.esp FuroGeneratorTrap.esp FuroTrapModEstrus.esp GoldRingOfViagra.esp hggf_hiyokoclub_fix.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp HiyokoGenerator withDB.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp TamagoSetBody.esp TamagoClubIcons.esp TamagoFertilityClinic.esp AAQv1.esp AACV1.esp Brothel of Cyrodiil.esp Brothel of Cyrodiil_ENG.esp Kaleah Sucub.esp Basic Instinct for BoC.esp Vtoy.esp TAG: {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}} IF CHECKSUM("Vtoy.esp", E80F82B8) DIRTY: 314 ITM, 4 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "https://tes5edit.github.io/docs/6-mod-cleaning-and-error-checking.html#ThreeEasyStepstocleanMods" SMVtoyCross.esp SMVtoyImperial.esp LL Nudes.esp Lovers.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp ! Wrong ! Lovers3dorgasm2.esp ! Wrong ! Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp ! Wrong ! LoversAdultYield.esp LoversBoxing.esp LoversCalm.esp Lovers_ChildRaceType.esp Lovers_ChildRaceNPC.esp LoversChildDataBase.esp LoversChorus.esp LoversDiag.esp LoversSetBody.esp LoversSetFlags.esp LoversSetScale.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversAphrodisia_HUD_1_0.esp LoversBCMSounds.esp LoversClubCats.esp LoversClubCatsSx.esp Lover's Comfort.esp LoversDeathDenied.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversGalgatBeastRape.esp LoversGGBlackmail.esp LoversGGBlackmail111.esp LoversGhostFix.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversHudInformation.esp loversneed.esp LoversOrgy.esp LoversPrimalUrge.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversPurificationLITE.esp LoversRapeman.esp LoversBCMSound.esp LoversVoice.esp SAY: Use either 'LoversVoice.esp' or 'LoversVoiceMinus.esp' or 'LoversVoiceAR.esp' but not both together. LoversVoiceMinus.esp SAY: Use either 'LoversVoice.esp' or 'LoversVoiceMinus.esp' or 'LoversVoiceAR.esp' but not both together. LoversVoiceAR.esp SAY: Use either 'LoversVoice.esp' or 'LoversVoiceMinus.esp' or 'LoversVoiceAR.esp' but not both together. LoversVoice_AddRandomDialogues.esp REQ: LoversVoice.esp LoversVoiceGHN_TH.esp LoversAdultPlay.esp SAY: Obsolete. Use LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp instead. LoversSpringSale.esp SAY: Obsolete. Use LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp instead. LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp SAY: Use either 'LoversAdultPlay.esp' or 'LoversSpringSale.esp' but not both together. LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp INC: LoversAdultPlayPlus.esp INC: LoversSpringSale.esp LoversHooker.esp ( I wouldn't place it here ) LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp LoversVoiceSSPplusDialogue Patch.esp LoversHooker.esp ( I would place it here or much further below ) LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp LoversTachiCat.esp SAY: Obsolete. Use LoversTachiCat2.esp instead. LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversRaperSGalgat.esp LoversRaperSRussian.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversJoburgCustomizer.esp LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp LoversJealousy.esp LoversSituations.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp ZMCPlayerSlave.esp LoversBed.esp LoversBedJapan.esp LoversBedNonStop.esp LoversBedNonStopJapan.esp LoversBiko.esp LoversBrute.esp LoversDarkLessons.esp LoversHarvest.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoFutureDream.esp LoversHorseRider.esp LoversHorseRider2.esp LoversHypnosis.esp LoversImHere.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversImmoralSisters.esp LoversLandE.esp LoversLandE_AddRandomDialogues.esp REQ: LoversLandE.esp LoversLandEv2.esp LoversLandE_hud.esp LoversLoveJuice.esp LoversLoveMucus.esp LoversMagicEx_0_1.esp LoversNecrophilia.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp here if you use LoversPayBandit.esp LoversPayBandit.esp PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp LoversPower.esp LoversUtilityFunctions.esp LoversBeatemUpS.esp LoversContraception.esp LoversNTRburglar.esp Lovers_NA.esp TAG: {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}} Lovers_NA Patch.esp Lovers_pkr.esp SAY: Old, update to version 1.3b3 Rev05a or later. Lovers with PK.esp LoversSatisfaction.esp LoversSatisfactionExtender.esp LAPF Afterglow.esp LoversBitch.esp LBPMill.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversCreatureExtender.esp LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp LoversGroup1.esp LoversHeartbeat.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversAchievments.esp REQ: OBSE v20+, AddActorValues.dll LoversJoystick.esp REQ: OBSE v20+, LAPF v1.4, SetBody Blockhead 0.4 LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Scale.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_UOPS.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_NPCs.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} REQ: NPCsTravel.esp LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_TT.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} REQ: TamrielTravellers.esp FUQ Land.esp SAY: Old, update to LoversCharactors.esp LoversCharactors.esp REQ: Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm, mpc.esm. LoversBorn.esp REQ: Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm REQ: the meshes from 'DskRing' mods, but not the ESPs. LoversBrothel.esp LoversCrowningIsle.esp LoversFOV.esp IF VAR(FCOM) ERROR: Delete. Use newer version of Lovers with PK. Integrated into 1.3.1 Rev38 and newer. LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversLoser.esp SAY: Obsolete. Use LoversLandE.esp instead. LoversVoiceSound.esp SAY: Obsolete. Use Lovers with PK.esp instead. LoversAfterVoice.esp IF VAR(FCOM) ERROR: Delete. Use newer version of Lovers with PK. Integrated into 1.3.1 Rev38 and newer. LoversMpc.esp SAY: Obsolete. Use mpc.esm version 1.2.3 or later. LoversStopCombat.esp IF VAR(FCOM) ERROR: Delete. Use newer version of Lovers with PK. Integrated into 1.3.1 Rev38 and newer. LoversBackup.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversSkirtFlipper.esp LoversStalkerMN.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversStopKillRaper.esp LoverStopSweetDeath.esp LoversSTVictims.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversSpermTrap.esp LoversSummonRapeman.esp LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversRapeStruggle.esp LoversMagic.esp LoversMB.esp (old) LoversMB2.esp ( I would move it down ) LoversMotionsNT.esp LoversLight.esp LoversTrueCrime.esp LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LSTaddon.esp ( only one of the 4 different versions ) LoversSexKariBurne.esp LoversSexSense.esp LoversStupidNpc.esp LoversSurrender.esp LoversHVirus.esp LoversHideMenus.esp LoversSoulTrap.esp LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp LoversVictims.esp LoversWorkingGirl.esp MOVE-IN ON HER or HIM MOD.esp Move-In On Her or Him MOD COBL Patch.esp Nudify and Dress.esp PEM_LoversTools withDB.esp Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp SAY: Old, update to version 0.8.2 stripper.esp sexlivion.esp Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp Sexlivion-NoBP2ch.esp Sex Shop.esp SexGGodess.esp SPS.esp IF CHECKSUM("SPS.esp", 530D9DE0) DIRTY: 2396 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: "https://tes5edit.github.io/docs/6-mod-cleaning-and-error-checking.html#ThreeEasyStepstocleanMods" StreetWhoreALT2.esp Goranga's prostitution system.esp Goranga dating system.esp FriendsAndLovers.esp FAL v0.3.esp bondage_sex.esp Eroblivion.esp Guard Sex.esp sexdarkness.esp sexdarkness_Eng_only_last.esp sexdarknessmodern.esp MaternityClothes.esp Nudeshy X.esp Nude Spell.esp SMYB Full.esp SMYB Female Only.esp SMYB Love Female Only.esp SMYB Love Full.esp Oblivion Pose Pack.esp PAPlayer1200Eng.esp PlayerClothingReplacer.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp here if you DO NOT use LoversPayBandit.esp Pose Compendium.esp SexDarknessAmuletSlot.esp SexDarknessTailSlot.esp SexDarknessAmuletSlot.esp DarkBloodline.esp DarkBloodlinesFix.esp TSS The Sex System.esp Vagina.esp Vanilla Maternity Clothes.esp ZAZHorseRidesYou.esp ... ... MadCompanionshipSpells.esp REQ: OBSE 19+. MCS extension.esp ... SetBody.esp AutoSetBody.esp ... Enhanced Grabbing.esp ... Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp ... humantouchNPC.esp REQ: OBSE 19+. ... ... ... Oblivion XP.esp ... LoversOblivionXP.esp ... ... ... LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_LAME.esp TAG: {{BASH: Graphics, NoMerge}} ... ... LoversIdleForceReset.esp SAY: Obsolete. Remove and use newer version of Lovers with PK. Integrated into 1.3.1 Rev41 and newer. LoversMB2.esp ( I would place here ) Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp ; Master file LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversCreatureIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm.esp ; Masterfile LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp Lovers3dorgasm2.esp ; Masterfile LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp You want a list of your load order ( maybe to post it in an thread ) To get your load order with OBMM: Just hit import/export, then view load order, then copy/save it as txt file. To get your load order with Wrye Bash: Just right click on one of the column headers (doesn't matter which one) and select "list mods", then copy/save it as txt file. Or you can search the Oblivion "Plugins.txt" file. Click C partition and use the search function, insert Plugins.txt and hit enter. Wait and you get all Plugins.txt files ( Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout3, Fallout NV,... ) Open the file and copy the text or copy the file. Find missing Master files with Tes4Edit (or WryeBach): Download and install Tes4Edit http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11536/ Start Tes4Edit You see all you activated Mods, just click OK (1) and wait In the "Message" window (2) you will see: "Background Loader: finished" Be glad , you have no missing Master files. If you see "Background Loader: Fatal:<Exception:"Mod name A" requires master "Mod name B" to be loaded before it.> Then you don't have the Master file or the Mod is in Load order above the Master file. So install Master or correct the Load order. If you have WryeBash and you watch your Load order you see under the Mod/esp with the missing Master file ----> Delinquent MASTER: Mod name.esp Edit: I do not know exactly how to do it, I never used WryeBash. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mod cleaning: TES4Edit BOSS often tells you if Mods are unclean, even DLCs are unclean (dirty edits, unnecessary edits, "Identical to Master" records) Tes4Edit http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11536/ I use version 3.1.2. Version 3.2 and 3.2.1 are also OK if you have not used a older version for years. ( some menus are changed so that so I accidentally always delete something. Because the first and second options were swapped in a drop-down menu, "Add" and "Remove" And the 4. xxx versions ...? I still have not figured out how to use it, how to clean a Mod. And yes I have read the "whatsnew" textfile. Cleaning guide: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y94K6bnxc8w http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes4Mod:Tes4View german: https://www.elderscrollsportal.de/ressourcen/mod-cleaning-mit-tes4edit.2978/ More Cleaning guides/Tutorials use Google "Tes4Edit cleaning" or "Oblivion Mod cleaning" ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 2. Problems during gameplay. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ save and load the game. Do NOT use quick saves ! always use/press Esc and create a real save. Quick saves can be faulty. corrupted save files ! If you want to load a save during playing: better quit the game , start again and load the save. Some game setting are not reset correctly, (e.g. tcl or tfc) so if you load a save without quit your game it may happen that the camera is incorrect or the movement keys do not function properly. Also broken/wrong triggered scripts and other bugs can be still in your comp-main memory and without quit the game you will save all errors in your next save ( and more and mores errors will be stored in your save till your saves are corrupted) ! So first quit game , then start game and load a save. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Penis/Breast stretching ( BBB Mods and/or LAPF) You use a wrong Skeleton ! Install the right skeleton again. Growlf's Universal skeleton when you use BBB but not Lovers. LAPF Skeleton if you play LAPF . You must use the LAPF skeleton, it is the only skeleton with penis bones. First a "bug fix" if you play LAPF/Lovers Sheogorath has a own skeleton ( meshes\Characters\_Male\skeletonSESheogorath.nif ) And this skeleton is not replaced by a LAPF skeleton, so Sheogorath will have a stretching penis during sex. How to fix it: You have the LAPF skeleton in your game folder: data\meshes\characters\_male\skeleton.nif Create a copy and rename the copy to skeletonSESheogorath.nif My LAPF skeletons ( skeleton.nif, skeletonbeast.nif, skeletonSESheogorath.nif and the first 1stPerson nif ) With floating weapon fix. LAPF BBB skeletons with floating weapon fix.7z ________________________________________________________________________ If you have stretching with NPCs or player: First check your Folders if you have the right Skeleton ( not overwritten by another Mod) If you use the Growlf's Universal skeleton (you don't play/use LAPF) data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 94KB data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif must be 53KB If you use LAPF ( you must use the LAPF Skeleton) data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 95KB data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif must be 58KB Extract the Growlf's Universal skeleton 7z or the LAPF 7z in an empty folder and copy the 3 Skeletons in your game folder. ---------------------------------------------------------- Problem solved ? No ? Check if archive invalidate works. Best use SkyBSA, a Archive Invalidation OBSE plugin. The best solution, easy and reliable. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/49568 Or if you have used your Mod manager to set archive invalidate: Check if you have the archive invalidate entry in your Oblivion ini.The Oblivion.ini is in My documents\my games\Oblivion (german: Eigene Dokumente\My Games\Oblivion) ! NOT the Oblivion_default.ini in your Oblivion game Folder ! ( sArchiveList is near the end of the ini) entry must look like this: OblivionMod Manager archive invalidate: sArchiveList=..\obmm\BSARedirection.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa WryeBash archive invalidate: sArchiveList=ArchiveInvalidationInvalidated!.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa If the entry is not there add it and save the ini !!! If your game is installed in C : / program files (x86) .... archive invalidate will not work right !!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Problem solved ? No ? I read something about "after installing a patch the game use the bsa files again instead of the loose Folders" It could happen that the BSA creation date ( bsa file's timestamp) was changed ALL OBlivion bsa file's timestamp must be 2006-01-01 ( Not the DLC BSA files) ( german BSA files) Check your Oblivion BSA files. if they are not 2006-01-01 you can fix it: WryeBash should redate them to 2006-01-01 when you switch to the bash installer tab. OBlivion ModManager: "Utilities" - "Archive invalidation" click "Reset BSA Timestamps" ----------------------------------------------- Problem solved ? No ? Take a bucket of water. Open your PC case. Tell your PC "Work or die ! " If he don't work right pour the water into the PC. ( use this tip at your own risk. No liability is assumed for possible damages ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Missing Animations ( Lovers Sex animations) You get a missing animation message during gameplay: Reason: a "old" mod use a specific ani number not included in LAPF. LAPF "only" have 149 animations of 200. Old Lovers with PK had all 200 animations (kf files) In the LAPF download is a "Animations in LAPF.jpg" with all used and free ani numbers. You can fill the missing/free numbers with "Revised BBB 11-200 Animations Pack 12-12-12.7z" or "Daedra Sutra" or copies of the LAPF animations. Rename a animation you like ( the ini and all 8 kf files. And the object files if the ani use an object. Also change the umid number in the ini file) Example: Spoiler if you want to use a Deadra Sutra ani number 40 to fill LAPF number 12 rename the ini (in data\ini\ ) to 12_Motion.ini the 8 kf files ( in meshes\characters\_male\IdleAnims\ani2 ) to 12_DefMotionx0.kf, 12_DefMotionx1.kf, 12_DefMotionx2.kf, 12_DefMotionx3.kf, 12_OffMotionx0.kf, 12_OffMotionx1.kf, 12_OffMotionx2.kf and 12_OffMotionx3.kf Object files are in meshes\IdleObjects\lovers. Number 40 has no Object so you must not rename anything. If you use a ani with object rename the first number of the file ( like 014_defmotionx0x1.nif ) !!!! Overwrite no LAPF Animations , only fill empty Slots/numbers ! Or first backup your LAPF anis. Revised BBB 11-200 Animations Pack 12-12-12.7z ( no animated penis animations ) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/11501-lovers-animations-workshop-old-one/#entry255685 at the end ot the post ( post 4 ) Daedra Sutra animations ( Animated Penis and no animated Penis animations) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8232-the-daedra-sutra-lovers-with-pk-animation-collection/ And here some galgat anis ( if you play LoversCrowningIsle or LoversBlackmail ) ! backup your LAPF animations ! galgat animations.7z1.09 MB · 235 downloads And if you don't want to rename files or you are not sure if you do it right , you can use this "ExtraAPAnimations 1.0.omod" ExtraAPAnimations.7z A OMod to fill all free LAPF ani numbers. Made by liniul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wrong position of the animations during sex Animations are made for scale 1.0 ( height of humans and creatures ) But races have different heights and creature races can have many heights (e.g. Minotaur lord is bigger than a normal Minotaur ) You can use loverssetscale , it scales humans and creatures during sex to 1.0 But the result is not always perfect. You can fix/adjust the positions manually in game with the keyboard keys. keys 1 to 4 and 9 and 0 are for position adjustment. The number pad numbers can also be used for position adjustments. NPC or Creature 1 = forwards, 2 = back, 3 = down, 4 = up; player 9 = down, 0 = up Holding down Shift while making position adjustments makes them at quadruple speed. Holding down Ctrl makes them at half speed. The 4 arrow keys moves the pair (player and NPC or Player and Creature), if they have sex "inside" a wall or a table you can them out. It is possible to make position adjustments for NPC/NPC sex. First move the crosshair close enough to display the name of either actor of the pair involved to lock adjustments keys to that sex act. Then use the number and arrow keys as you would for player ( use the number pad keys ! The normal number keys bring up the quickbar when the player is not involved in sex ) You can also use the grab key to switch to the next animation or Shift and grab key for previous animation if you do not like an animation. ( just like you do with your player when she/he's having sex ) If you play a new Character you can delete all saved positions in the LAPF setting spell ( If your new character has a different size and all saved position are wrong ) Or you can use loversbackup2 . Then you can save different sets of position adjustments. When you play a old Character again you can load your old position adjustments saves. LAPF without loversbackup2 can only save one set of position adjustments. The only other key that is used in LAPF is the jump key when you set sex progress to no-automatic you press the jump key to get to the next sex stage. With shift and jump key you get one stage back ( as long as you do not reach the last/orgasm stage ( stage 4 ) . Rape and NPC-NPC sex is always automatic ! Links Spoiler Lovers set scale ( use the first or the third ) https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/152-lovers-set-scale-revised/ https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/106-lovers-set-scale/ https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/9324-loverssetscale-dukky-version/ And Lovers Backup 2 is the in the "Lovers Supplemental Plugin Pack" https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/355-lovers-supplemental-plugin-pack/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sex does not start ( error message) If it is not a missing animation ( ...SPos (xy) not found ) 1) Maybe the last time this NPC had sex, the sex script was not finished properly. So the NPC can not start "new" sex. A spell was not correctly removed. ( Can happen when you leave a cell while two NPCs have sex ) If you are trying to have sex with such an NPC, you will get the dialog message "I'm not ready" or a pop-up message saying "NPC is not ready to have sex". opening the console: Click on the NPC then type: removespell xx03BFD5 then press enter key. XX is the load order ID of the Lovers with PK.esm ( check the number in your modmanger ) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2) And you can try the Lovers bug fix Cast the setting spell " Sexual Exploits (Lovers Settings) " Then click [Fix Bugs] and then [Repair all] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3) If you do not receive an error message after using dialog or sex spell, but the sex animation does not start and the player and NPC are in T position, body in body, your load oder is wrong. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4) If you get an error message ,Actor is not ready for sex, it can be that the NPC has the Summonable flag. Which is very rare. But NPC with summonable flag are blocked in the Lovers scripts. Open the console and click on the NPC, and type SetSummonable 0 then press enter key. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Bomb fix ( Animation bomb , Animation bug ) The A bomb: All types of animations can become stuck in Oblivion such as fires, torches, magic effects, doors and moveable platforms. You will know when this happens. It is usually reported to occur in games with greater than 200 hours of playtime. how to fix You can fix it with WryeBash ( don't know how , I don't use WryeBash ) or with this small program: Oblivion Animation fixer (OAF) read the readme, it is very easy. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/5127/ OAF renames the save so you must rename it again ! the save (ess file ) and the OBSE save must have the same name or you get mess up your game. Note: !! OAF does not works with Pluggy 132. Fixed saves freezes the game. ! ! ! saves are in My Documents\My Games\Oblivion\saves (or german eigene Dateien\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\ ) OAF renamed save(ess) file looks like this OAF_Save 15503 - Fejeena - Jobal Crafting Shop, Level 5, Playing Time 30.11.55.ess You must delete the OAF_ so it looks like Save 15503 - Fejeena - Jobal Crafting Shop, Level 5, Playing Time 30.11.55.ess and the OBSE file Save 15503 - Fejeena - Jobal Crafting Shop, Level 5, Playing Time 30.11.55.obse or you rename the obse file: add OAF_ then both files looks like this OAF_Save 15503 - Fejeena - Jobal Crafting Shop, Level 5, Playing Time 30.11.55.ess OAF_Save 15503 - Fejeena - Jobal Crafting Shop, Level 5, Playing Time 30.11.55.obse Both files must have the same Name ! ( or all 3 save files if you use a older Pluggy Version: ess, obse and pluggy save) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reset BSA Timestamps If you have problems with the display of textures and meshesit could be an incorrect BSA timestamp. The time of a BSA file can accidentally change by copying and working with the CS. It's a very rare error. Check the time of the bsa files in your game data folder. All Oblivion BSA files and DLC BSA files must have timestamp=2006 All Mod BSA files have different and newer times. If your Oblivion and DLC bsa files are not 2006 you can change it with Oblivion Modmanager (Utilities - Reset BSA timestamps You don't click Update now ! Only Reset BSA timestamps !) Spoiler Oblivion Modmanager You don't click Update now ! Only Reset BSA timestamps ! Update now you need for Archive-Invalidation if you don't use SkyBSA . See the ArchiveInvalidation section above. or WryeBash ( choosing File->Redate from the right-click menu ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RefScope An tool/ Mod to find IDs of objects, NPCs, Creatures. It tells you the ID, name , esp,... of all things in game. You can check, inventory, AI packages, factions, spells of NPCs and Creatures. https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/21862/? __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 3. Other Tips ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NifSkope: To open meshes/nif files. You can check and change textures pathes. Change Color, gloss Settings. Move or fix UV maps. Clean a nif Download NifSkope: https://github.com/niftools/nifskope/releases/tag/nifskope-1.1.3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Merging Mods with TES4Gecko: Don't merge Lovers Mods or Mods with many/big scripts. Clothes and armor Mods are fine. Merging: makes out of many esp one esp. TES4Gecko http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/8665/ Tutorial: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/38655/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oblivion Construction set and ConstructionSet extender(CSE): The CSE ( with OBSE ) recompiles OBSE scripts. And the CS crashes much less often. How to use it with OBSE: With Windows 10 you should use the latest version. The good old v51 does not works well with Win10. CSE Version 60, 70 and 80 needs OBSE, .NET Framework 4.0+, Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redist (x86), Microsoft Visual C++ 2017 Redist (x86), DirectX 9.0c Runtime, Construction Set v1.2, CSE needs Construction Set v1.2 http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/The_Elder_Scrolls_Construction_Set simply install CSE (of course after you have installed CS v1.2) http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/36370/? CSE51 (OBSE20) can also be used with OBSE21, see below. CSE63, CSE 70 , CSE 80 (OBSE21) With CSE63, CSE 70 ( or later ) you must have OBSE 21 And you start the CSE with the CSE batch file. I used CSE51 and I remember only a few crashes in the last 5 years with Window7. Now with Window 10 it is almost unusable. And the CSE 81 is not very stable and some functions trigger an CTD. Here information about how to install v51 if someone wants to try it with Win 10. Spoiler !! If you use a Oblivion Steam version you must copy the obse_loader.exe in you Oblivion folder ( the folder with Copy obse_1_2_416.dll, obse_editor_1_2.dll, and obse_steam_loader.dll, Oblivion.exe and OblivionLauncher.exe ) Install CSE51 (readme) 1. Extract this archive to any folder and then copy the contents to Oblivion's folder. 2. Extract Construction Set v1.0’s executable from its installer into the game’s root directory and rename it as ‘TESConstructionSetOld.exe’. [The installer can be downloaded separately from the CS wiki] 3. Open the ‘ConstructionSet.ini’ file in your ‘Documents\My Games\Oblivion’ directory and set the ‘bAllowMultipleEditors’ key’s value to ‘1’. Instructions #2 and #3 need to be carried out only if the lip sync tool is sought after. So you don't need step 2 and 3 ! simply install CSE and create a OBSEloder.exe shortcut and rename the path. --------------- Since CSE is an OBSE plugin, the CS must be run through the OBSE loader You know you need the OBSE_Loader.exe ( yes also with a Steam Oblivion Version), With OBSE20 or older Create a Desktop shortcut, right click and click properties and rename the desktop Icon path to .....\Oblivion\obse_loader.exe" -Editor can show you only a german Version, sorry. After the " must be a space then -Editor with OBSE21 by adding -oldinject to obse_loader. \Oblivion\obse_loader.exe" -Editor -oldinject --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CS/CSE Tip: Change the movement sensitivity in the CS Settings: Objects moving and turning is very rough and fast, so it is difficult to place objects. 1. click file 2. Preferences 3. Change these Settings: Movement and Rotation Speed ( I use 0.5) And also the camera Zoom Speed ( I use 0.5) Then click Apply, then Close. Edited September 28, 2024 by fejeena 34
mem4ob4 Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Excellent job fejeena! May I suggest adding a note in there to backup your basic install in case things go wrong with installing the rest of the mods? Mem
movomo Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Hopefully this will reduce duplicate questions a bit, fejeena. Good job. As for doing archive invalidation, I think this worth mentioning. Some users, mostly Steam version users, often experience archive invalidation refusing to work because of Oblivion.ini lock or something, even if they do it properly. In this case, one must check out their Oblivion.ini and make sure that "sArchiveList" entry is looking like this: sArchiveList=..\obmm\BSARedirection.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa ..\whatever\path\redirection_bsa.bsa must be the first entry of this (and this is essentially a half of what the bsa redirection is). If Steam won't let the mod manager modify the ini, they should do it themselves.I'm not sure if installing Oblivion in the shared directory (for example program files (x86)) is contributing to this issue, though.
fejeena Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 Best time for backup ? after install Tools, Body, Skeleton and BBB ? There where I have written "Now you can install Lovers/LAPF if you want." Then I make my backup. Must add more: e.g. use of Notepad++ with BOSS masterlist.txt or add Mods BOSS does not know in the BOSS masterlist.txt Edit: movomo that's why I wrote "Do not install Oblivion in the folder specified by the Installation" That's the reason archive Invalidation can not alter the Oblivion.ini But I will add the Manual ini change also.
Vaelorian Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Should probably sticky this. People might pay more attention to it then.
varenne Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 @ fejeena ...or add Mods BOSS does not know in the BOSS masterlist.txt Curious what you are trying to capture here. The is a userlist with BOSS also, which is seldom if ever used by anyone. That can be used to add MODs BOSS doesn't have, and more; very custom LOs. And very nice write up by the way!
fejeena Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 My new thread was deleted moved from "Oblivion Technical Support" to "Oblivion General Discussion" and was pinned. Have needed some minutes to find it. OK new "Mod sorting" Spoiler, how to use Notepad++ and masterlist.txt. Hope it is not too confusing.
Antonio121989 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oblivion Construction set and ConstructionSet extender(CSE): How to use it with OBSE: Most modders prefer ConstructionSet extender version 51 ( clearer and better Operation/controls and less requirements: OBSE20 and .NET Framework) CSE Version 62 needs Oblivion Script Extender 21 Beta+, .NET Framework 4.0+, Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redist., DirectX 9.0c Runtime. CSE needs Construction Set v1.2 http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php/The_Elder_Scrolls_Construction_Set If you use a Oblivion Steam version you must copy the obse_loader.exe in you Oblivion folder ( the folder with Copy obse_1_2_416.dll, obse_editor_1_2.dll, and obse_steam_loader.dll, Oblivion.exe and OblivionLauncher.exe ) simply install CSE (of course after you have installed CS v1.2) CSE51 (OBSE20) can also be used with OBSE21, see below. CSE62 (OBSE21) I use CSE51 and I remember only two crashes in the last 2 years. Install CSE51 (readme) 1. Extract this archive to any folder and then copy the contents to Oblivion's folder. 2. Extract Construction Set v1.0’s executable from its installer into the game’s root directory and rename it as ‘TESConstructionSetOld.exe’. [The installer can be downloaded separately from the CS wiki] 3. Open the ‘ConstructionSet.ini’ file in your ‘Documents\My Games\Oblivion’ directory and set the ‘bAllowMultipleEditors’ key’s value to ‘1’. Instructions #2 and #3 need to be carried out only if the lip sync tool is sought after. So you don't need step 2 and 3 ! simply install CSE and create a OBSEloder.exe shortcut and rename the path. --------------- Since CSE is an OBSE plugin, the CS must be run through the OBSE loader You know you need the OBSE_Loader.exe ( yes also with a Steam Oblivion Version), Create a Desktop shortcut, right click and click properties and rename the desktop Icon path to .....\Oblivion\obse_loader.exe" -Editor CSE2.jpg can show you only a german Version, sorry. After the " must be a space then -Editor You can also use CSE51 with OBSE21 by adding -oldinject to obse_loader. \Oblivion\obse_loader.exe" -Editor -oldinject With OBSE the CS recompile new OBSE scripts. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CS/CSE Tip: Change the movement sensitivity in the CS Settings: Objects moving and turning is very rough and fast, so it is difficult to place objects. CSE.jpg 1. click file 2. Preferences 3. Change these Settings: Movement and Rotation Speed ( I use 0.5) And also the camera Zoom Speed ( I use 0.5) Then click Apply, then Close. I downloaded Construction Set 1.2 from the site, installed it downloaded CSE 62 When I try to open the obse it ask for obse_editor_1_0.dll but I only saw the 1_2 in the folder. I tryed to open the Launch CSE.bat as said in the readme in CSE and same error appeared What I did wrong?
fejeena Posted January 8, 2015 Author Posted January 8, 2015 I use 51 Never had Problems. Have you installed all requirements. Version 61,62 and 63 need a lot. Required: Patch 1.2.0416, Oblivion Script Extender 21 Beta+, .NET Framework 4.0+, Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 Redist (x86), DirectX 9.0c Runtime, Construction Set v1.2 From Nexus page Q: The CSE shows a message about missing DLL files during launch.A: Ensure that you've installed all the prerequisites linked in the readMe file, particularly the Visual C++ redistributables (download the x86 version). Start: Run the ‘Launch CSE’ batch file. Not the TESConstructionSetOld.exe Way not use the newest Version ? 63 Edit: shit ! Trojaner in the V 63 download. With V51 you can do all things ( e.g. add new Animations in the LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp )
Antonio121989 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 For what I am reading I think this CSE were made for OBSE 17 and not 21, that why it isn't working about the patch I use Steam, so it is up to date It keeps asking the obse_editor_1_0.dll But there is a file that comes with OBSE with the name obse_editor_1_2.dll so it isn't Directx or c++, is OBSE that is too high
fejeena Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 All CS extender 6 are for OBSE21 (v61,62,63) CSE 51 ?? works with OBSE 20 and 21 And you only need Patch 1.2.0416, Oblivion Script Extender, .NET Framework, Construction Set v1.2 Or have you installed CS version 1.0 2. Extract Construction Set v1.0’s executable from its installer into the game’s root directory and rename it as ‘TESConstructionSetOld.exe’. [The installer can be downloaded separately from the CS wiki] 3. Open the ‘ConstructionSet.ini’ file in your ‘Documents\My Games\Oblivion’ directory and set the ‘bAllowMultipleEditors’ key’s value to ‘1’. Instructions #2 and #3 need to be carried out only if the lip sync tool is sought after. !!! You don't need it if you don't want to create Mods with Lip synchronization !!!! 1
Antonio121989 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 I installed the CS1.2. Well I give up I am making an easy install of the Deadra Sutra Animations and even without changing the esp only 3 of the creatures animation needed to be excluded (one Baliwog, one Bear and one Boar). So it is too little to burn my brain on it
fejeena Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 Perhaps I do it in the next days, 3 new animations is not much work. Maybe! no promise!
Antonio121989 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Well I already renamed everything and tested half of them. The only thing left is to add them to loverscreatures.ini and test Tomorrow I should finish this. I was planning to post it here in loverslab forum if it ok. If you manage to make the esp, I add the rest of them and update.
RitualClarity Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Wow... You raised the tutorials to a whole new level. It will take me weeks to digest this morsel... I like what I see so far and can start to gather up some of the main files etc. even if I am not ready to set up my Oblivion. Get some of the most needed things out of the way. Thanks.
SapphicSoul2 Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 when I try to download MenuQue with TESMM directly or try and create an omod from the manual download I get an error message that it has been altered in a way that may cause a security risk and the message states that obmm will not load it. I've never seen anything like this before. downloading and installing has been a breeze with TESMM so far, as it handles the nexus links and info. I've created an omod with OBMM out of a manual download of MenuQue many many times without issue. any ideas great and wise LL members?
fejeena Posted August 3, 2015 Author Posted August 3, 2015 All the OBSE plugins I install manually. They are all in the data\OBSE\plugins Folder, easy to find, uninstall, overwrite,... And you now if you deactivate the OMod you only uninstall the files from the OMod but not the log files MenuQue created in the plugins Folder (plugins\MenuQue Folder) All my Mods I have as OMods, also textures and meshes replacer without esp. And I still use the OBMM. The TESMM I use for Skyrim ( I refuse to use the NexusMM )
DeadSomething Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 i don't know if this sounds too demanding, but is there a way of reducing that list to the bare necessities for someone who doesn't want to learn modding? i mean there are many tools that can prove useful and make the game more stable if used correctly, but also dangerously powerful and if used wrong can break your whole install with no way of knowing why (especially if you don't know that much about modding). also there seem to be many different opinions on which modmanagers to use and which not. i personally used OBMM for some years until some mod stated that wrye bash should be used for certain steps of install and loadorder - then i used wry bash except for installing omods. so what's the bare necessities for a stable oblivion and in which particular order are they to be installed?
fejeena Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 I thought my description is for beginners.... And all is in the right install order. Install Oblivion not in C:\program files ... then the Tools you need ( and optional Tools "Other useful Tools you can use: ! optionally !" you must not install if are a beginner ) And I personally do not use WryeBash. In "Basics tools you need: " are no Tools with complicated Settings and none of it can "destroy" your game. OMM and TESMM are identical = same handling and user Interface. Then Body and armor-clothes replacer, BBB and Skeleton. ..... ..... As Beginner you can stop after the Load order. With more knowledge you can do Mod cleaning ( it's easy ) 2. Problems during gameplay. you should read. All below is for Modders. There are more "detailed -complicated" install instructions http://www.loverslab.com/topic/50847-anatriaxs-guide-to-morroblivion/ and http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8893-installation-guide-with-lovers-mbp-and-wyre-with-bashed-patch/ I thought my was easy, just the essentials you need to have Oblivion with nude BBB bodies before you install Lovers.
varenne Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 @ DeadSomething - To what exactly? fejeena captures much of what was once scattered all over (LL and the 'Net). A MOD manager is basic stuff, so is using BOSS, IMO. Wrye Bash, a graduation point to intermediate and you can use OBMM and WB together as IMO they compliment each other nicely. Opinions are what they are; opinions. Users and members are free to try each option and decide on which is best for them. But if something is indicated DON'T USE like LOOT then the recommendation is not to use it. It matters less what the install order is for Oblivion tools and functionality add-ons. It is one of those "it depends". At the very beginning a specific item may not be needed, and to write up each and everyone and at what point to DL and install would be rather exhausting. And IMO this covers the basics of modding a vanilla Oblivion install, based on the path chosen by fejeena; a BBB install and config. Modding Oblivion is correctly adding MODs, preferably AFTER a member has done the requisite reading; OPs, readme files, Requirements, etc. This is where most newbies trip themselves up and shoot themselves in the foot. NOT READING (and more importantly comprehending). MOD Authoring is different and involves making a new MOD, re-engineering a prior MOD release, or making use of their work in a compilation. Modding Oblivion is NOT for the Plug-and Play crowd. Never was and odds are never will be, even though it has matured by lightyears. There is and always will be a certain level of responsibility for the member user to read up on how to use this or that. Oblivion builds are just to robust and variable to be able to write up fool proof instructions for everyone to follow for every possible build. Many here have done their best, but as we all know fools come along every day and break what was once fool proof.
DeadSomething Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 okay, sorry, maybe i wasn't reading concentrated enough and maybe i'm too stressed currently as i'll move to my new flat in a week and won't have internet there until they finally install it - so i need something to play offline and have all the files there or better already installed before i am offline. i want to apologize if that made me sound harsh. too bad the vanilla game even with official patches is quite buggy and still needs a good amount of mods to be what it should've been in the first place.
varenne Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I didn't read it as harsh, maybe just a little demanding, . And that is why so many have worked on improving the Bethesda flaws and shortcomings. Even the DLCs need to be cleaned before using 'em!
DeadSomething Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 thanks. i followed the instructions until "now make a backup" and the only thing (i hope) that i did further was install the enhanced camera obse plugin. so far it works in the starting prison. i'll now see for hgec compatible skins for argonians and khajiiti and then make the backup before installign LAPF and all other kinds of tweaks.
fejeena Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 Yes my instructions are only to get a running game with BBB nude Body, all you need before install Lovers or other Mods. All other Mods are a matter of taste. enhanced camera, overhauls for race or whole game, MBP, Unique Landscapes, quest Mods, menu Mods,... That's why I don't add them in my instuction. I hate MBP but many People love it, I would rather play Oblivion without Lovers but never without Unique Landscapes , but many People don't like it because you need compatibility Patches for many other Mods. Here another install guide with Mods,Tools, Interface, Textures,....... http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Hishutup/OblivionGuide You will need some hour to read all But not Lovers compatible, only Roberts female Body as Body replacer,
DeadSomething Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 your guide is great. i guess i just rushed it and saw all the advanced tools and thought "damn, do all those mods need a proper cleaning and merging and all that to work?" i'm happy with a crappy look - as long as the lore is not broken, the bodies look fine, all text on textures is readable and the animations don't screw up. also thanks to this http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugs/i finally understood how to sort my loadorder.i'm currently building my bashed patch after having installed LAPF and a handful of loversplugins.
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