The mind of a mad (wo)man

[Devious Diana]

What do you guys think about transgender/transsexuals?

What i mean is that for example you're a guy in appearance, but feel as a woman and visa versa.

 

i can also be very submissive and dominant from time to time, my mind is just a total chaos, the way i see it.

Also, watching people get raped or have sex in skyrim i seem to like, however seeing real porn, that i turn away. never looked at any. and from the little bits that i did i felt nothing.

 

Does any of you feel the same? Post it here

[ТigегШооd]

I like to change roles often & be the submissive, but with a woman & I could never really understand men who want to be with men.

[multy2k]

My uncle is a transgender. Now he is an aunt. He got the money so he did the necessary surgery.

Got herself a husband too... now owns a big house and one kid (adopted I think...)

 

So... I'm cool with transgender people... as long as they are not targeting me...

[( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)]

I'm white, male, cis/het

But I have friends who are trans. Shit ain't easy, but they have my support.

[Devious Diana]

I like to change roles often & be the submissive, but with a woman & I could never really understand men who want to be with men.

 

when 2 woman are submissive/dominant, it still looks normal but, i agree that men + men is a little bit weird for me also.

some men can just go OTT, i have nothing against gay people as long as they act normal

[prideslayer]

In general I'm fine with post-op's, though I don't think I could date one; some latent homophobia I guess.

 

The pre-ops that insist on using the 'wrong' bathroom, cross-dress at work, and so on... do get under my skin. I understand that your mental state is fighting against your physical state. I get it. Really, I do. However, "you" have to get something as well: You're still a dude, with a dangling cock & balls, walking into the ladies room wearing a dress.

 

Yes, this was something that happened at a previous job. I'm not sure if the guy was an actual preop TG, or just a TV, because somedays he dressed like a lady, other days not. The poor women in the building were unanimous in their "creepy as fuck" assessment and would actively avoid using the bathroom on that floor on 'those' days.

 

I've never met any female-->male preops so I have no insights there. Coming from the dude mindset, we'd probably all go out of our minds with fantasies and get nothing at all done the entire day because of it.

[Devious Diana]

In general I'm fine with post-op's, though I don't think I could date one; some latent homophobia I guess.

 

The pre-ops that insist on using the 'wrong' bathroom, cross-dress at work, and so on... do get under my skin. I understand that your mental state is fighting against your physical state. I get it. Really, I do. However, "you" have to get something as well: You're still a dude, with a dangling cock & balls, walking into the ladies room wearing a dress.

 

Yes, this was something that happened at a previous job. I'm not sure if the guy was an actual preop TG, or just a TV, because somedays he dressed like a lady, other days not. The poor women in the building were unanimous in their "creepy as fuck" assessment and would actively avoid using the bathroom on that floor on 'those' days.

 

I've never met any female-->male preops so I have no insights there. Coming from the dude mindset, we'd probably all go out of our minds with fantasies and get nothing at all done the entire day because of it.

 

true, im a dude but i still feel like a woman. but, i dont dress like one, i dont want to creep people out. i care about them just like myself.

creeping them out would be bad for both sides. sometimes i wish i could just relive my life as a woman, that'd be a dream come true

[prideslayer]

 

In general I'm fine with post-op's, though I don't think I could date one; some latent homophobia I guess.

 

The pre-ops that insist on using the 'wrong' bathroom, cross-dress at work, and so on... do get under my skin. I understand that your mental state is fighting against your physical state. I get it. Really, I do. However, "you" have to get something as well: You're still a dude, with a dangling cock & balls, walking into the ladies room wearing a dress.

 

Yes, this was something that happened at a previous job. I'm not sure if the guy was an actual preop TG, or just a TV, because somedays he dressed like a lady, other days not. The poor women in the building were unanimous in their "creepy as fuck" assessment and would actively avoid using the bathroom on that floor on 'those' days.

 

I've never met any female-->male preops so I have no insights there. Coming from the dude mindset, we'd probably all go out of our minds with fantasies and get nothing at all done the entire day because of it.

 

true, im a dude but i still feel like a woman. but, i dont dress like one, i dont want to creep people out. i care about them just like myself.

creeping them out would be bad for both sides. sometimes i wish i could just relive my life as a woman, that'd be a dream come true

 

To be honest, I don't have a problem with TVs/crossdressers either. Really it boils down to a basic social contract. Using a womens restroom, fitting room, turns the creep-out factor up to 11 and there's no way for others around you to know if you're really "a woman in a mans body" or just a creep out to ogle them or worse.

 

Dressing as a woman and going into the mens room carries risks of it's own, heavily dependent upon environment. Dive bar full of drunks? Don't do it! A restaraunt in some hillbilly backwater? Probably not a good idea. A big city? They've probably seen it all before, I know I have.

 

Also, if you intend to push boundaries and ignore any of that advice, get yourself some close quarters hand to hand training like krav maga first. You'll walk like you're 10 feet tall if you come out of that restroom in a skirt with a pile of groaning jackasses behind you on the floor.

[Devious Diana]

 

 

In general I'm fine with post-op's, though I don't think I could date one; some latent homophobia I guess.

 

The pre-ops that insist on using the 'wrong' bathroom, cross-dress at work, and so on... do get under my skin. I understand that your mental state is fighting against your physical state. I get it. Really, I do. However, "you" have to get something as well: You're still a dude, with a dangling cock & balls, walking into the ladies room wearing a dress.

 

Yes, this was something that happened at a previous job. I'm not sure if the guy was an actual preop TG, or just a TV, because somedays he dressed like a lady, other days not. The poor women in the building were unanimous in their "creepy as fuck" assessment and would actively avoid using the bathroom on that floor on 'those' days.

 

I've never met any female-->male preops so I have no insights there. Coming from the dude mindset, we'd probably all go out of our minds with fantasies and get nothing at all done the entire day because of it.

 

true, im a dude but i still feel like a woman. but, i dont dress like one, i dont want to creep people out. i care about them just like myself.

creeping them out would be bad for both sides. sometimes i wish i could just relive my life as a woman, that'd be a dream come true

 

To be honest, I don't have a problem with TVs/crossdressers either. Really it boils down to a basic social contract. Using a womens restroom, fitting room, turns the creep-out factor up to 11 and there's no way for others around you to know if you're really "a woman in a mans body" or just a creep out to ogle them or worse.

 

Dressing as a woman and going into the mens room carries risks of it's own, heavily dependent upon environment. Dive bar full of drunks? Don't do it! A restaraunt in some hillbilly backwater? Probably not a good idea. A big city? They've probably seen it all before, I know I have.

 

Also, if you intend to push boundaries and ignore any of that advice, get yourself some close quarters hand to hand training like krav maga first. You'll walk like you're 10 feet tall if you come out of that restroom in a skirt with a pile of groaning jackasses behind you on the floor.

 

 

trust me, despite me feeling as a  woman, i still use the men bathroom and dress like a guy. i hate creeping people out, and where i live im like the only 1 around. ok i might stand a bit different or sit different, and dislike anything those guys do. i think im just a very calm TG. dressing as a woman is more in my nature yes, but not with this body.

 

still hoping for that /sexchange lifehack

[Chaos63]

Never actually met one firsthand, but the thought weirds me out. Guess Americans and the like would be more accustomed to it, what with the occurence rates and everything. I've also been wondering...doesn't this simply equal homosexuality? I mean, back in the day before sex-changes were a thing and trangender was nonexistent, I'd assume people like this were just dudes who like dick and chicks who like rug. So in retrospect, aren't transgenders just homosexuals with access to expensive surgery?

[prideslayer]

Never actually met one firsthand, but the thought weirds me out. Guess Americans and the like would be more accustomed to it, what with the occurence rates and everything. I've also been wondering...doesn't this simply equal homosexuality? I mean, back in the day before sex-changes were a thing and trangender was nonexistent, I'd assume people like this were just dudes who like dick and chicks who like rug. So in retrospect, aren't transgenders just homosexuals with access to expensive surgery?

It's not nearly so simple.

 

Go ask any homosexual man if he'd rather be a woman, or a lesbian if she'd rather be a man, and you'll be on the way to finding your answer. That or google.

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People can be very harsh and mean, even here on this forum you see many saying they understand but in the same sentence they say stay away from me(you creep not in those words but thats what they are thinking).

 

Tolerance is difficult to master for many, only few have this gift.

 

There are always people who will accept you for what you are remember that and hopefully give you hope for the assholes whit there narrow minded views on whats right and whats wrong.

 

Social acceptence is long way from accomplish this in most society's religion, culture and conservative thinking will give people like you hard time.

 

But there still people who don't have this bad thoughts and accept for what you are.

 

Love and Peace for all don't matter what you are if you are hetro, gay or transgender or whatever.

 

World would be better place if we respect others for what they are or wanne be.

 

Im no expert and my english suck so maybe what i have written here seems not entirely correct sorry for that its my limited abillity to say it correctly in the right english grammer.

 

If you don't agree with me fine, just ignore what i've said i just hope it help a little for some more tolerance towards our fellow human beings.

 

Social acceptence can only be accomplishes by good education.

 

Thank you

 

[Devious Diana]

People can be very harsh and mean, even here on this forum you see many saying they understand but in the same sentence they say stay away from me(you creep not in those words but thats what they are thinking).

 

Tolerance is difficult to master for many, only few have this gift.

 

There are always people who will accept you for what you are remember that and hopefully give you hope for the assholes whit there narrow minded views on whats right and whats wrong.

 

Social acceptence is long way from accomplish this in most society's religion, culture and conservative thinking will give people like you hard time.

 

But there still people who don't have this bad thoughts and accept for what you are.

 

Love and Peace for all don't matter what you are if you are hetro, gay or transgender or whatever.

 

World would be better place if we respect others for what they are or wanne be.

 

Im no expert and my english suck so maybe what i have written here seems not entirely correct sorry for that its my limited abillity to say it correctly in the right english grammer.

 

If you don't agree with me fine, just ignore what i've said i just hope it help a little for some more tolerance towards our fellow human beings.

 

Social acceptence can only be accomplishes by good education.

 

Thank you

 

i do agree with you, homo, hetero, bi, black or white, male, female or transgender. we're still humans, some different than others in culture or skin color. we're all the same yet each and every unique. i am a transgender, and if people complain about me then so be it. this is my choice in my life, they cannot chance my decisions. they can judge, but if i care... that's a different story.

 

To me, it doesn't matter if you're black or white or something inbetween, to me, you're a human. that's what counts for me.

[mer_frye]

Trans* people, and just people in general, are incredibly diverse.  Whether or not you're submissive, dominant, or you like pornography and games that depict rape says way more to me about your sexuality than it does about your gender identity.  There's no one way to be a man or a woman.  You don't even need to be one or the other if that's just not who you are.

 

Re: restrooms and the like...  a lot of my friends have been called out for being in the "wrong bathroom."  They wear guy clothes and cut their hair short, and that creeps some other women out, but they have every right to use the women's bathroom.  So do trans* women, whatever they look like, and whatever genitalia they happen have.  Just be respectful.

 

Feel free to message me if you ever need someone to talk to.

[prideslayer]

Re: restrooms and the like...  a lot of my friends have been called out for being in the "wrong bathroom."  They wear guy clothes and cut their hair short, and that creeps some other women out, but they have every right to use the women's bathroom.  So do trans* women, whatever they look like, and whatever genitalia they happen have.  Just be respectful.

I'm sorry, but a man, with man parts, does not have "every right" to walk into the ladies restroom, no matter how he feels about his own self image. Believing otherwise is willful ignorance. Doing it may put you in an extremely dangerous situation. That's a practical reality that must also be respected.

 

On respect, if you have man parts but feel uncomfortable using the ladies room, what gives you more right to be comfortable than the ladies with lady parts that are uncomfortable with you there?

 

Being a ___ trapped in a ___'s body may not be a choice, but walking into a bathroom where you make everyone uncomfortable just so you can feel more comfortable certainly is -- and it's a selfish and disrespectful one.

[DoctaSax]

Sharing a restroom with anybody is uncomfortable, if it's number 2

[prideslayer]

Sharing a restroom with anybody is uncomfortable, if it's number 2

Touché, but you know what I meant. Jerk.

[mer_frye]

And intersex people? Women with PCOS? Women who just happen to have masculine bodies? At what point does a person's body stop being "female enough" to use the women's bathroom? Is there an equivalent "male enough" to use the men's restroom, or are we just policing women's bodies? Is it just genitalia that matters? Should trans men who quite possibly look more masculine than cis men yet still have a vagina use the women's restroom? Because I imagine that could make everyone very uncomfortable.

 

Willful ignorance would be living in a bubble where all women look perfectly like women, all men look like perfectly like men, and no one else exists.  You wrote of a social contract earlier.  To me that social contract means that we need to be tolerant toward others in order to live together.  It doesn't mean that minorities with whom we're uncomfortable need to stay home and suffer for our intolerance.

[prideslayer]

You missed my point.

 

If you want society to be tolerant of you, you must also be tolerant of society. If you want to be shown respect, you must show respect.

[Chaos63]

If you have a vagina you go to the ladies room, if you have a schlong you go to the mens room. I can identify as a cat If I want, doesn't mean I'll demand they have a litter box in every restaurant for me. People like OP are cool in my book, different but not being needy special snowflakes about it.

[GrimReaper]

So what about a dude who did surgery but still has his man parts but otherwise looks like a woman? What bathroom should he/she chose?

[Chaos63]

So what about a dude who did surgery but still has his man parts but otherwise looks like a woman? What bathroom should he/she chose?

I don't know, maybe there's a magic bathroom 9 and three-quarters inbetween like in Harry Potter.

[prideslayer]

So what about a dude who did surgery but still has his man parts but otherwise looks like a woman? What bathroom should he/she chose?

What do you mean? What bathrooms should shemales use? Ladies room would probably cause the least uproar, unless your mooseknuckle is printing on your lycra yoga pants, in which case you should stay home until you can make *some* attempt to fit in.

[Devious Diana]

 

Re: restrooms and the like...  a lot of my friends have been called out for being in the "wrong bathroom."  They wear guy clothes and cut their hair short, and that creeps some other women out, but they have every right to use the women's bathroom.  So do trans* women, whatever they look like, and whatever genitalia they happen have.  Just be respectful.

I'm sorry, but a man, with man parts, does not have "every right" to walk into the ladies restroom, no matter how he feels about his own self image. Believing otherwise is willful ignorance. Doing it may put you in an extremely dangerous situation. That's a practical reality that must also be respected.

 

 

I feel as a woman in a male body, but. i do have respect for the others and still use the men's restrooms, i dont like creeping out women. Also i have no specific interest in people. From time to time i go like 'oh that girl is pretty' but also 'that guy is such a hunk', i just cant really say if im hetero or homo. And when i do feel to love somebody, that feeling fades away after a few weeks. dont know why but it just does.

[prideslayer]

 

 

Re: restrooms and the like...  a lot of my friends have been called out for being in the "wrong bathroom."  They wear guy clothes and cut their hair short, and that creeps some other women out, but they have every right to use the women's bathroom.  So do trans* women, whatever they look like, and whatever genitalia they happen have.  Just be respectful.

I'm sorry, but a man, with man parts, does not have "every right" to walk into the ladies restroom, no matter how he feels about his own self image. Believing otherwise is willful ignorance. Doing it may put you in an extremely dangerous situation. That's a practical reality that must also be respected.

 

 

I feel as a woman in a male body, but. i do have respect for the others and still use the men's restrooms, i dont like creeping out women. Also i have no specific interest in people. From time to time i go like 'oh that girl is pretty' but also 'that guy is such a hunk', i just cant really say if im hetero or homo. And when i do feel to love somebody, that feeling fades away after a few weeks. dont know why but it just does.

 

You "get it."

 

Also, heard of "bisexual?" Thinking someone is good looking, regardless of gender, isn't really a good indicator of sexual orientation. Sexual attraction is what sexual orientation boils down to. What kind of porn do you watch? If your wish to have a womans body were granted, would you enjoy a lesbian relationship?