gooser Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 Fortunately, these kind of tweaks can be made just with description txt file authoring. Are you volunteering?
gooser Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 Oh yeah... { "1st Person" : [ "My poor {ASS} is sore! All the {FUCKING} has left it {WTANAL}!" ], "2nd Person" : [ "Your poor {ASS} is sore! All the {FUCKING} has left it {WTANAL}!" ], "3rd Person" : [ "{PRIMARY}'s poor {ASS} is sore! All the {FUCKING} has left it {WTANAL}!" ] }
Susanoo27 Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 I was just wondering: if your orifices are are at higher wear tear rank (gaping, battered) I don't think that you would notice when someone rapes you. E.g.: "You cry out in pain as (target) enters my (gaping, battered) (ass, pussy)"? If you are all battered up, even a horse would have a difficult time making you notice that he is raping you. It would be more realistic to say "You barely even notice as (creature) enters my battered (ass, pussy)". Note that cumming comments should not be changed, as should not "By the Divines! My (gaping, battered) (orifice) is being fucked!"-type comments. Like gooser said, you can tweak the descritption on your own. Some way to change it would be: 1.) You change the WearandTear_Discriptors from { "descriptors" : { "level0" : [ "virgin" ], "level1" : [ "tight" ], "level2" : [ "snug" ], "level3" : [ "nice" ], "level4" : [ "well fucked" ], "level5" : [ "sore" ], "level6" : [ "pliant" ], "level7" : [ "loose" ], "level8" : [ "gaping" ], "level9" : [ "battered" ] }, into: { "descriptors" : { "level0" : [ "virgin" ], "level1" : [ "tight" ], "level2" : [ "tight" ], "level3" : [ "tight" ], "level4" : [ "snug" ], "level5" : [ "snug" ], "level6" : [ "snug" ], "level7" : [ "snug" ], "level8" : [ "nice" ], "level9" : [ "nice" ] }, and refresh the db ingame. 2.) You also can start write your own discription and rather than using WT states use words like "tight" or "tiny" to descripe the state of your PC-pussy. You would always get: "You cry out in pain as (target) enters my tight (ass, pussy).". Even if the PC is the biggest bitch in Skyrim -who fuck every cock at least three times- it's a better discription than: "You cry out in pain as (target) enters my (gaping, battered) (ass, pussy)"
Susanoo27 Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 I have upload the new description files for Wolf, Draugr, Horse, Dog, Chaurus and Werewolf. This should be cover nearly all new addition in the new update, there is a possibility that files for Dragon, Vampirelords and NPC, maybe also for Troll -I'm not sure if I tested him- are still missing. Just extract the archive into the Apropos-folder. Edit: The files contain the standard discription, also the file for Chaurus-Reverse is dubbed as anal -because it's tagged with anal- but contains line for oral. Edit2: reupload cause the Werewolf-files contained the wrong lines, sorry : Archive: db.zip PS: It seems like that no Horse-Animation have the "vaginal"-tag, so you can delete this files in your mod installation (If you really need to save 4kb )
gooser Posted June 13, 2014 Author Posted June 13, 2014 I have upload the new description files for Wolf, Draugr, Horse, Dog, Chaurus and Werewolf. This should be cover nearly all new addition in the new update, there is a possibility that files for Dragon, Vampirelords and NPC, maybe also for Troll -I'm not sure if I tested him- are still missing. Just extract the archive into the Apropos-folder. Edit: The files contain the standard discription, also the file for Chaurus-Reverse is dubbed as anal -because it's tagged with anal- but contains line for oral. Edit2: reupload cause the Werewolf-files contained the wrong lines, sorry : Archive: db.zip PS: It seems like that no Horse-Animation have the "vaginal"-tag, so you can delete this files in your mod installation (If you really need to save 4kb ) These have been added to the project and commited to Git. Thanks Susanoo27!!!
Eagle331 Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Some new animations in SexLab 1.54. 1 for horse where female PC stands next to the horse (who has a giant boner) and fondles herself, then fondles the horse, then gets underneath him and strokes and licks the manlly bits (or horsely bits, as the case may be) 2 new ones for giant. One where he holds female PC out and eventually probes her a bit by hand, and another where giant pokes female PC deeper and deeper into her pussy with his giant thing, eventually pushing her down hard and filing her up. Apropos has no apparent issues with 1.54 but 1.54 itself is giving me some issues. Lack of reliable alignment controls is the biggest one for me right now. And at least one of the new 3-way animations seems kinda broken. 2 SexLab MCM menues (only 1 of which works) in save games, but if I start a new character, I have only 1 SexLab MCM menu. The giant animation doesn't really affect Apropos, but the new horse one does. Any chance we could get a separate Horse Oral file? Existing horse sex messages really don't make sense when you're clearly not fucking the horse. Decauk, could you modify your previous db file to be used with the new version of apropos?
Grimbold the unlovely Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 First off, I am using an older version of Apropos so as to remain compatible with SL 1.39, needed for Spouses Enhanced. It might be that I am hopelessly out of date. But I love Apropos too and have had enormous fun writing my own descriptions. I see only one thing missing. It would be wonderfull if there were messages for some of the foreplay animations. i am thinking especially of the kissing and cuddling animations. To have messages for foreplay in addition to oral, anal, and vaginal would be a huge enhancement. The messages need not (and probably should not) be graphic or specific as to anatomical parts and actions. Just simple messages to set a mood--statements as to how excited the PC is or how beautiful /handsome the partner is. Apologies if this feature already exists in a more recent version of Apropos.
aloevera5 Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Not much in comparison but I added some additional synonyms and FemaleActor_Male content updated for the latest Apropos. Synonyms-aloe.7zFemaleActor_Male-aloe.7z
gooser Posted June 15, 2014 Author Posted June 15, 2014 First off, I am using an older version of Apropos so as to remain compatible with SL 1.39, needed for Spouses Enhanced. It might be that I am hopelessly out of date. But I love Apropos too and have had enormous fun writing my own descriptions. I see only one thing missing. It would be wonderfull if there were messages for some of the foreplay animations. i am thinking especially of the kissing and cuddling animations. To have messages for foreplay in addition to oral, anal, and vaginal would be a huge enhancement. The messages need not (and probably should not) be graphic or specific as to anatomical parts and actions. Just simple messages to set a mood--statements as to how excited the PC is or how beautiful /handsome the partner is. Apologies if this feature already exists in a more recent version of Apropos. Grimbold, I would upgrade as soon as feasible. I want to really only focus on 1.5x and 1.6x of SexLab.
Kapes Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I went through the trouble of updating the Custom that was posted a while back for the update, so I thought I may as well share it. Hope the creator doesn't mind me fixing it and posting it. Enjoy Apropos Custom.rar
gooser Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 I went through the trouble of updating the Custom that was posted a while back for the update, so I thought I may as well share it. Hope the creator doesn't mind me fixing it and posting it. Enjoy Looks like not all the tokens are correct. You still are using the old long form for the WT tags.
Kapes Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Oops, I didn't even realize the weartear was changed as well. Easy enough to fix though. Apropos Custom.rar
Neodarkside Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Just out of curiousity, does Apropos just look at the animations tag list and then chooses a description for that animation? Or does it allow each individual animation to have different types of descriptions. Reason I bring this up, Panicforevers horse oral animation, really shouldn't cause a massive bump in oral soreness as all he/she is doing is touching the horses cock and licking the tip. Had a female who was a virgin oral and got that animation to play and she spiked all the way to lvl 5 Sore, the description also said it jammed its cock down her throat. The animation and description and increase in oral level don't really match up.
gooser Posted June 20, 2014 Author Posted June 20, 2014 Answer: A. See: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28123-apropos/page-46?do=findComment&comment=822976 I'm also concerned that switching over to a system of checking specific animations and stages within those animations will make Apropos even more script heavy. However, i have been thinking of converting everything over to a SKSE plugin...
Guest Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Some new animations in SexLab 1.54. 1 for horse where female PC stands next to the horse (who has a giant boner) and fondles herself, then fondles the horse, then gets underneath him and strokes and licks the manlly bits (or horsely bits, as the case may be) 2 new ones for giant. One where he holds female PC out and eventually probes her a bit by hand, and another where giant pokes female PC deeper and deeper into her pussy with his giant thing, eventually pushing her down hard and filing her up. Apropos has no apparent issues with 1.54 but 1.54 itself is giving me some issues. Lack of reliable alignment controls is the biggest one for me right now. And at least one of the new 3-way animations seems kinda broken. 2 SexLab MCM menues (only 1 of which works) in save games, but if I start a new character, I have only 1 SexLab MCM menu. The giant animation doesn't really affect Apropos, but the new horse one does. Any chance we could get a separate Horse Oral file? Existing horse sex messages really don't make sense when you're clearly not fucking the horse. Decauk, could you modify your previous db file to be used with the new version of apropos? Being worked on as we speak. Tags are all changed, a load of new ones added for things like taste/texture, undead/bug specific descriptors and the like. I'm about half way through dividing up the existing lines between different stages, so I've been checking each animation to make sure lines go with appropriate animations where possible. Also replacing some of the old WT tags with the new AROUSAL tags where more appropriate. Once that's done, I'll need to write a decent number of lines for the new stuff (Horse Oral, Troll Anal, etc). Once I have everything covered I'll post it. My other issue is 2nd/3rd person. It should be simple enough to add & convert the 1st person messages to 2nd, but then some 3rd person messages may be disjointed, as I've written 3rd person from a 1st person voyeur perspective, as if the PC is watching the NPCs. I might just reaarange the ones which only work as voyeur messages to be together so they're easy enough to delete or switch to 2nd person voyeur if people want that. Gooser said he might add support for the voyeur messages, but I doubt it's his priority, and I don't want to keep tossing stuff to do at him. Also, for the record, people can do whatever they like with my custom file. Anyone who wants to change it to suit their own preferences and upload it can do so, I'm fine with that. EDIT: Here's what I've done so far. Doing creatures first because it's a helluva lot less work than humans. Also, if anyone uses this, be aware that some files are c/p'd filler and have the wrong messages. These are just for file format and were copied from I believe one of the FF strapon files. If they still exist, it's because I haven't gotten that far yet. Also, some files have a list of descriptions for my own use so I remember what that animation/stage looks like. Also, if anyone spots a {TAG} that doesn't exist in the Synonyms file, let me know. Some tags had names changed because of length and because I forgot what I'd called them, and at one point because I managed to get two {TASTY} tags without realising it. I think I found them all and corrected them, but I might have missed some. Tags in the wrong place should also be highlighted. Tags do not appear in all places though due to limitations. I don't use them at the starts of sentences (they won't capitalise), and certain sentence structures wouldn't work with some outcomes, so I just plump for set descriptors. {BUGCOCK} Insect creature cocks. {HUGE} Descriptor for human or human-like cocks. Less exotic than the other one. {TASTY} Descriptor used when taking a cock in the mouth. {DEAD} Descriptor for Draugr cocks and flesh. {SLIMY} Draugr cum. Draugrs don't really work well with the human/beast stuff, so they get their own tags. {BEAST} Descriptor for inhuman cocks. {THICK} Descriptor for general cum use. {JUICY} Descriptor for cum taken orally. {CREAM} Changed the old female cum tag to a shorter word. I may also add a tag for cum lying on skin, with stuff like 'heavy' or 'glistening', which wouldn't make sense for the other cum tags. I'll think about that when I get to the Boobjob files. Apropos Custom.7z
Eagle331 Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Some new animations in SexLab 1.54. 1 for horse where female PC stands next to the horse (who has a giant boner) and fondles herself, then fondles the horse, then gets underneath him and strokes and licks the manlly bits (or horsely bits, as the case may be) 2 new ones for giant. One where he holds female PC out and eventually probes her a bit by hand, and another where giant pokes female PC deeper and deeper into her pussy with his giant thing, eventually pushing her down hard and filing her up. Apropos has no apparent issues with 1.54 but 1.54 itself is giving me some issues. Lack of reliable alignment controls is the biggest one for me right now. And at least one of the new 3-way animations seems kinda broken. 2 SexLab MCM menues (only 1 of which works) in save games, but if I start a new character, I have only 1 SexLab MCM menu. The giant animation doesn't really affect Apropos, but the new horse one does. Any chance we could get a separate Horse Oral file? Existing horse sex messages really don't make sense when you're clearly not fucking the horse. Decauk, could you modify your previous db file to be used with the new version of apropos? Being worked on as we speak. Tags are all changed, a load of new ones added for things like taste/texture, undead/bug specific descriptors and the like. I'm about half way through dividing up the existing lines between different stages, so I've been checking each animation to make sure lines go with appropriate animations where possible. Also replacing some of the old WT tags with the new AROUSAL tags where more appropriate. Once that's done, I'll need to write a decent number of lines for the new stuff (Horse Oral, Troll Anal, etc). Once I have everything covered I'll post it. My other issue is 2nd/3rd person. It should be simple enough to add & convert the 1st person messages to 2nd, but then some 3rd person messages may be disjointed, as I've written 3rd person from a 1st person voyeur perspective, as if the PC is watching the NPCs. I might just reaarange the ones which only work as voyeur messages to be together so they're easy enough to delete or switch to 2nd person voyeur if people want that. Gooser said he might add support for the voyeur messages, but I doubt it's his priority, and I don't want to keep tossing stuff to do at him. Also, for the record, people can do whatever they like with my custom file. Anyone who wants to change it to suit their own preferences and upload it can do so, I'm fine with that. EDIT: Here's what I've done so far. Doing creatures first because it's a helluva lot less work than humans. Also, if anyone uses this, be aware that some files are c/p'd filler and have the wrong messages. These are just for file format and were copied from I believe one of the FF strapon files. If they still exist, it's because I haven't gotten that far yet. Also, some files have a list of descriptions for my own use so I remember what that animation/stage looks like. Also, if anyone spots a {TAG} that doesn't exist in the Synonyms file, let me know. Some tags had names changed because of length and because I forgot what I'd called them, and at one point because I managed to get two {TASTY} tags without realising it. I think I found them all and corrected them, but I might have missed some. Tags in the wrong place should also be highlighted. Tags do not appear in all places though due to limitations. I don't use them at the starts of sentences (they won't capitalise), and certain sentence structures wouldn't work with some outcomes, so I just plump for set descriptors. {BUGCOCK} Insect creature cocks. {HUGE} Descriptor for human or human-like cocks. Less exotic than the other one. {TASTY} Descriptor used when taking a cock in the mouth. {DEAD} Descriptor for Draugr cocks and flesh. {SLIMY} Draugr cum. Draugrs don't really work well with the human/beast stuff, so they get their own tags. {BEAST} Descriptor for inhuman cocks. {THICK} Descriptor for general cum use. {JUICY} Descriptor for cum taken orally. {CREAM} Changed the old female cum tag to a shorter word. I may also add a tag for cum lying on skin, with stuff like 'heavy' or 'glistening', which wouldn't make sense for the other cum tags. I'll think about that when I get to the Boobjob files. Gonna test it NOW
Guest Posted June 24, 2014 Posted June 24, 2014 Ok, separated all the existing lines between stages, now I'm planning on adding 2nd/3rd person, just gonna remove the voyeur lines for now. Now, for the MaleActor lines; I understand that W&T/Virginity stuff is a little bit off for males, but how does rape work? Will the Male on Female rape files get used when the male rapes the woman, when the woman rapes the man, or both? And if it's both, what situation are players of male PCs generally using, raper or rapee? I would assume a male aggressor, but I don't play a male character in a modded game, so I may be wrong. If people who play male PCs could let me know, that'd be awesome.
Guest Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Are there even any MM animations? I know there's MMF with bi stuff...
Grimbold the unlovely Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I think the MF animations might work with MM. They certainly do with FF. Perhaps it is our own eyes that interpret animations as gender specific. Some animations are phallocentric, as when one character strokes another's cock. This looks odd if there is no cock, and even a dildo looks a bit incongruous when it is lavished with loving attention as if it had nerve endings. But those anims would probably work well for gay men. It is lesbians who are left out in the cold--which is rather odd considering the male fascination with lesbian sex, and the (fact?) that most modders are male.
Guest Posted June 27, 2014 Posted June 27, 2014 This is taking much longer than I thought it would, so I'm posting a more complete custom db now to replace the half done one I posted earlier. This is still not complete, but should be functional. Right now it only has 1st person content, and there are very few FF or MaleActor messages. Also, it includes content that is not yet supported; Horse Oral Stage 6, Rape Stages (will currently play consensual during rape stages), Rieklings, FF messages. This is just a stand-in until I can get a more complete version. I'm trying to get at least 10 lines for every file first of all, then I'll convert them all to 2nd/3rd person. Apropos Custom.7z
estelles Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Decauk I love your custom db, big fan I've been expanding it with some of my own stuff, and then I started doing some 2nd person translations from your 1st person texts.. just because I like 2nd person.. It took me forever to do like 3 animations. So then I decided to write a script to help me do the conjugations. So It just does some grammar and word replacing, 'you' for 'I' and such and whatever I ran across while doing it by hand... I just finished the python script which should make this a lot easier.. Most sentences are already good 2nd-person. but some others don't do as well. something with the active versus passive tense( or whatever its called..), it's hard to filter out. So I'll definitely be running run through these translations myself and correct what I find, but ill just post the first results here.. because they're pretty ok. I hope you don't mind me using your work in the download.. I thought if you were going to do the same thing in translating the 1st person to the second person this could save a lot of work.. but if you were planning to write all new 2nd person texts.. please do! You're writing is awesome ; ) the download contains the latest decauk db (yesterdays) and the new 1st and '2nd person' files are in a seperate directory, including the pythonscript and a readme for the script if someone needs it. The json files just needs some proofreading to find which sentences didn't 'translate' well. Decauk DB, with a 2nd person conjugations from 1st person. WITH PYTHON SCRIPT.zip
Guest Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Thanks for the praise, and good work on the script. Some 1st person lines simply won't work well with 2nd/3rd, these will likely just get removed. I don't plan on writing new 2nd person lines, as I'm not planning on players toggling between options; I'd assume people will just pick their preference and stick with it. Any new lines would be better simply added to each category to increase variations. I'll definitely play around with your script though, like Earendil's validator, should save me a ton of time, so thanks muchly. 3rd person will be a little bit more of a pain as it more greatly changes sentence structure. I know have 10+ lines for every category other than FF/MaleActor (which by my count is around 24,000 lines), so I'll start adding 2nd/3rd person support.
estelles Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Nice, glad I could help. And yes I think 3rd person will be a lot harder to do with some script, unfortunately I just got some time to check the results better, and I fixed a bunch of errors in the script. It now works a lot better with word boundaries now.. eg. no longer replacing, It's with Yout's I also added some filters to select how to translate from the 1st person files.-leave sentences which start with single quotes untranslated and adds "You {SAY}:" in front. (for stuff that's spoken out loud,, I put some extra synonyms for this to work).-any sentence which starts with, ({ACTIVE}), remains untranslated and and adds quotes to what follows. -Also sentences which end with 2 or more spaces will not be present in the 2nd person mode. I think this should be enough to allow easy unobtrusive filtering of how 1st person stuff should be used in 2nd person, just by editing the sourcefiles. The updated script and results are in the archive.. if anyone discovers some other bugs, improvements, whatever.. let me know. custom db by Decauk, with uncorrected 2nd person conjugations. +PYTHON SCRIPT v0.2.zip
originalwankster Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Not sure if this is already a thing, but in the future can we maybe get a way to select what certain scenes are considered (anal/vaginal)? There's a number of creature scenes that Apropos considers anal that I'd rather it consider vaginal.
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