Dibella's Love (Vow of Nudity) - Beta LE/SE/AE

[kamithemoon]

29 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

I do not have that mod but doesn't it seem strange to you that something in slot 60 and I'm guessing leaves torso exposed would even have that keyword?

 

Having that keyword will look like the PC is clothed in most every mod which checks for clothing, i.e. OSL aroused, etc... wo having to assign other keywords or remove them with KID.

It's my favorite Succubus mod but development on it is slow as it's his least prioritized mod, iirc.  I never really thought about that about the keyword because to get access to that ability you have to purchase it from the MCM and I never do.  To be perfectly honest, I don't actually enjoy being nude myself.  I like to treasure hunt for treasure and outfits.  But one day I'll do a nude run, though much much later.

[nuclearstorm]

Is there some kind of time limit or condition that blocks the vow from appearing like main quest progress?

It worked at the start of my current game, but I decided to not accept it for now. After progressing through the main quest and leveling up a bunch the popup isn't appearing when interacting with the shrine. The corpse with the letter is still there and I do get the quest to read it but it doesn't progress after that.

[killer905]

57 minutes ago, nuclearstorm said:

Is there some kind of time limit or condition that blocks the vow from appearing like main quest progress?

It worked at the start of my current game, but I decided to not accept it for now. After progressing through the main quest and leveling up a bunch the popup isn't appearing when interacting with the shrine. The corpse with the letter is still there and I do get the quest to read it but it doesn't progress after that.

There doesn't seem to be any limit or condition that causes a block. I checked it on both the old and new saves and didn't have any problems.

maybe @Gristlecan say something.

[Urban Rodder]

I have an unsolvable bug... As soon as I activate this mode, I can no longer die. I remain wounded on the ground, and the only way out is to reload a save..

[Dumuzi]

10 hours ago, Urban Rodder said:

I have an unsolvable bug... As soon as I activate this mode, I can no longer die. I remain wounded on the ground, and the only way out is to reload a save..

 

I had this issue as well. As soon as my character picks up the letter from Senna, they are marked as essential. I thought it was causing ctd on save issues as well, but that is still happening, unfortunately. But the being essential and not being able to die part stopped happening when I removed this mod and started a new game without it.

[Urban Rodder]

Does the author have any idea ?

 

[killer905]

@Gristle I confirm that once the letter is picked up, the PC cannot die; it merely falls to its knees

[Dumuzi]

17 hours ago, killer905 said:

@Gristle I confirm that once the letter is picked up, the PC cannot die; it merely falls to its knees

 

True. I've decided that, despite this, I like the mod enough to still use it before this is fixed. The lover stone effect of the Andromeda standing stone mod basically does the same thing, except that it's on a 15-minute timer. So if you die twice in quick succession, you'll actually die the second time. This still leaves the other issue I've found, being Uthgerd the Unbroken. Before you take the vow, even after you've found the letter, she is still fine. Once you've taken the vow though, the only dialogue she has is "Keep walking, whore. If you haven't got a cock, I'm not interested.". That one line she repeats over and over. 

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, Dumuzi said:

 

True. I've decided that, despite this, I like the mod enough to still use it before this is fixed. The lover stone effect of the Andromeda standing stone mod basically does the same thing, except that it's on a 15-minute timer. So if you die twice in quick succession, you'll actually die the second time. This still leaves the other issue I've found, being Uthgerd the Unbroken. Before you take the vow, even after you've found the letter, she is still fine. Once you've taken the vow though, the only dialogue she has is "Keep walking, whore. If you haven't got a cock, I'm not interested.". That one line she repeats over and over. 

The Uthgerd bug is easy to fix. As for the PC can't die problem, when you use the Charm ability and it triggers sex, the PC is made essential as a backup in case something hostile shows up despite the previous Charm effect - since you can't protect yourself while trapped in a Sexlab animation, but can still be attacked. But the "essential" status is cleared when the sex ends. I'll take a closer look at the code, but is it possible something is interrupting the sex, or that the sex animation never starts? I'm trying to figure out why the status wouldn't be cleared by the clear command at sex end. I guess as a backup I could always clear the essential status on location change.

 

Or, is the essential status even necessary? Is anyone running into a case where they are actually attacked during sex? I was worried about things like a dragon appearing after the sex started.

[Gristle]

19 hours ago, killer905 said:

@Gristle I confirm that once the letter is picked up, the PC cannot die; it merely falls to its knees

Are you sure it's triggered by the letter, and not use of the Charm ability?

[killer905]

13 minutes ago, Gristle said:

Are you sure it's triggered by the letter, and not use of the Charm ability?

I don't know, but the quest starts, and from that moment on, the PC can't die. It might be a spell or something else, but it's related to Dibella Love.

[eflat01]

33 minutes ago, Gristle said:

The Uthgerd bug is easy to fix. As for the PC can't die problem, when you use the Charm ability and it triggers sex, the PC is made essential as a backup in case something hostile shows up despite the previous Charm effect - since you can't protect yourself while trapped in a Sexlab animation, but can still be attacked. But the "essential" status is cleared when the sex ends. I'll take a closer look at the code, but is it possible something is interrupting the sex, or that the sex animation never starts? I'm trying to figure out why the status wouldn't be cleared by the clear command at sex end. I guess as a backup I could always clear the essential status on location change.

 

Or, is the essential status even necessary? Is anyone running into a case where they are actually attacked during sex? I was worried about things like a dragon appearing after the sex started.

 

You know, I remember getting attacked during sexlab scenes long ago like many years back, but I can't recall ever being attacked in the last recent year? I do not know if mods coded for it?  To me it would seem changing the attitude via calm would be enough? 

 

Dragons seem to agro on anything agroing on them. 

 

I know most of the defeat mods can leave a PC in an essential state.

 

Edited May 20 by eflat01

[Dumuzi]

12 hours ago, Gristle said:

The Uthgerd bug is easy to fix. As for the PC can't die problem, when you use the Charm ability and it triggers sex, the PC is made essential as a backup in case something hostile shows up despite the previous Charm effect - since you can't protect yourself while trapped in a Sexlab animation, but can still be attacked. But the "essential" status is cleared when the sex ends. I'll take a closer look at the code, but is it possible something is interrupting the sex, or that the sex animation never starts? I'm trying to figure out why the status wouldn't be cleared by the clear command at sex end. I guess as a backup I could always clear the essential status on location change.

 

Or, is the essential status even necessary? Is anyone running into a case where they are actually attacked during sex? I was worried about things like a dragon appearing after the sex started.

 

The problem I've experienced with a never-ending essential status, is that it can lead to situations where, when you die, you go into a continual bleedout state. Then, trying to load the last save manually crashes the game. That doesn't happen every time; sometimes you just self-revive after a few seconds, but it does happen. What I've had to do in the meantime, is not take the vow until I get to a power level in a playthrough where I'm not likely to die at all anyway.

 

As for being attacked during a scene, I'm using Succubus Heart, which provides a couple of protections against that. One is the option to radiate a calming field around the PC that starts when the animation starts and ends when it does as well. It also has an option where if you get struck even once during an animation, it immediately ends.

 

As for asking for confirmation that the essential status begins when you pick up the letter, I will let them speak for themselves, but I can say on my end, I've used More Informative Console to confirm with myself that that's the exact moment when it goes from "Protection:none" to "Protection"Essential" on the PC. Right at the start of the quest.

[killer905]

5 hours ago, Dumuzi said:

As for asking for confirmation that the essential status begins when you pick up the letter, I will let them speak for themselves, but I can say on my end, I've used More Informative Console to confirm with myself that that's the exact moment when it goes from "Protection:none" to "Protection"Essential" on the PC. Right at the start of the quest.

Please send screanshot.

[Dumuzi]

1 hour ago, killer905 said:

Please send screanshot.

 

The first one is just before PC picks up the Letter from Senna, the second one just after. Starting the "Dibella's Love" quest is the only thing that changes.

 

[killer905]

@Gristle look at this what Dumuzi post it.

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, Dumuzi said:

 

The first one is just before PC picks up the Letter from Senna, the second one just after. Starting the "Dibella's Love" quest is the only thing that changes.

 

 

Until @Gristle fixes that I would just turn it off manually.

 

setessential 7 0

 

 

[Dumuzi]

40 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Until @Gristle fixes that I would just turn it off manually.

 

setessential 7 0

 

 

 

Yeah, I tried that when I very first started troubleshooting the issue, not knowing which mod was causing it. When I do 'setessential 7 0' it returns 'SetEssential: ' ' Is Not Essential', and doesnt change anything. Even though 'IsEssential' returns 'IsEssential >> 0.00' before the quest starts and 'IsEssential >> 1.00' after it starts. I've been told that is because there is a quest (this one from what it looks like) that is enforcing the status. In other words, that doesn't work.

 

Edit: Oh, and just to be thorough, I tried it with the base form 7 and the ref form 14, with all of the 0's and without. No difference on any of those.

Edited May 21 by Dumuzi

[Pater Aelred]

Need to turn in the bounty, but I'm just a girl: 

[Gristle]

This is a bug. I'll post an update soon.

 

EDIT: Update posted. (v0.28)

Edited May 22 by Gristle

[Gristle]

On 5/21/2026 at 4:55 AM, Dumuzi said:

The first one is just before PC picks up the Letter from Senna, the second one just after. Starting the "Dibella's Love" quest is the only thing that changes.

Thanks. Update with fix posted (v0.28). However, the PC essential status will likely continue until you have sex with the Charm ability. Then it should clear at the end of sex (although I haven't tested this yet). A new game will also not have the problem anymore. The update also fixes the Uthgerd issue.

[Dumuzi]

1 hour ago, Gristle said:

Thanks. Update with fix posted (v0.28). However, the PC essential status will likely continue until you have sex with the Charm ability. Then it should clear at the end of sex (although I haven't tested this yet). A new game will also not have the problem anymore. The update also fixes the Uthgerd issue.

 

And thank you as well for the update. Confirmed essential was still on PC, but only until end of sex through Dibella's Charm. Now it's back to normal. Uthgerd also has her full range of dialogue options and lines pre and post relationship increase. 

[nuclearstorm]

I've set DBL_NPCCommentChance to 10 and DBL_FollowerCommentChance to 0 but still get "come on sister, show us some of your beauty" half of the time when talking to a NPC and Lydia is also still saying that. Or is that variable for something else?

[Tartarus the sauced]

After one reaches the greybeards, does the deed there, does the mod still affect comments and such from npc's in other holds or is it effectivly over??

Having fun so far, Thanks for this mod to use in my game!

Edited May 27 by Tartarus the sauced

[Dumuzi]

37 minutes ago, Tartarus the sauced said:

After one reaches the greybeards, does the deed there, does the mod still affect comments and such from npc's in other holds or is it effectivly over??

Having fun so far, Thanks for this mod to use in my game!

 

In my experience, it does still affect npc's everywhere in a general sense, but as far as specific scenes or quests, its limited to Whitetun and the Greybeards atm. With more to be added in the future.