killer905 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 47 minutes ago, eflat01 said: My thoughts about this are. The Dibellan may offer sex (love freely), but any afferings afterward received as tribute to Dibella and the priestess returns that to the temples (carried in an inventory bag to deliver it to a priestess at a temple). (Maybe add an exchange of a token of Dibella among the transaction?) The sway toward Sanguine may take place - the corruption starting with some encounter via Sam - and the gifts of course come from Sanguine (possibly among them special jewelry dealing with said corruption?) So it's more of a who you're performing for... iow: Dibella being love and beauty vs Sanguine lust and debauchery. I kind of like [Imp] Piercings of the Divines, just released were [Imp] Piercings of the Daedra (I skypatch these things to npc priestess along with amulets). I'm not saying you should incorporate those - permissions and all that - but if you find or create something similar? Fact is I'd liked to find genitalia pierces which matched, i.e. clit piercings to go with the nipple piercings, In your mod's case especially since the PC is running around naked and they could be connected to certain level of devotion - quest/stages. @Gristle The mods mentioned: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/101112 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/190098 The author allows the use of files in own mod but does not allow conversions to other games: “You are not allowed to convert this file to work on other games under any circumstances.” However, Skyrim LE and SE are not different games, because the storyline, etc., are the same—only the graphics are different. So, theoretically, we could use the nipple piercing mod, but the downside is that it’s only for CBBE, so users of UNP, etc., wouldn’t really be able to use it. Could we create a mini patch so that the PC can run it if it's already installed?
eflat01 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, killer905 said: @Gristle The mods mentioned: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/101112 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/190098 The author allows the use of files in own mod but does not allow conversions to other games: “You are not allowed to convert this file to work on other games under any circumstances.” However, Skyrim LE and SE are not different games, because the storyline, etc., are the same—only the graphics are different. So, theoretically, we could use the nipple piercing mod, but the downside is that it’s only for CBBE, so users of UNP, etc., wouldn’t really be able to use it. Could we create a mini patch so that the PC can run it if it's already installed? (I believe the author has them available for both LE and SE... I use AE and did not double-check). I only mentioned these as some idea. I found them interesting and had the Divine version a long time... Sure if you wanted technically you could examine it for it's presence and if so utilize it. I was going to suggest you could create a bodyslide for BHUNP if you wanted to, but low and behold I found one https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/111226, I do not see one for the Daedric yet and do not know what that would take? I do know they do not include a body nif. They sit in slot 56 and also and thus when bodyslide is used to adjust them they do not actually contain a body nif. Spoiler As I said I skypatch them along with amulets to priestess. ie. Spoiler ;Hamal "Hamal" [NPC_:0001E765] filterByNpcs=Skyrim.esm|1E765:objectsToAdd=Skyrim.esm|c8915=1,[Imp] Piercings of the Divines.esp|D63=1 ;Orla "Orla" [NPC_:000133B0] filterByNpcs=Skyrim.esm|133B0:objectsToAdd=Skyrim.esm|c8915=1,[Imp] Piercings of the Divines.esp|D63=1 etc... i.e. My priestess wear didfferent clothes instead of robes - specific to the Divine - i.e. Eleven Lake for Kyne - so Ahlam is dressed as my typical Kynarith Priestess. (You can see here she has a amulet and piercings on also, and in sexlab scenes she'll keep those on.) Spoiler Edited August 30 by eflat01
killer905 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 10 minutes ago, eflat01 said: I only mentioned these as some ideas. Sure if you wanted technically you could examine it for it's presence and if so utilize it. the other thing is you could always create a bodyslide for BHUNP if you wanted to. (I believe the author has them available for both LE and SE... I use AE and did not double-check). They sit in slot 56 and also and thus when bodyslide is used to adjust them it does not actually contain a body nif. Reveal hidden contents True, true. 10 minutes ago, eflat01 said: As I said I skypatch them along with amulets to priestess. ie. Reveal hidden contents ;Hamal "Hamal" [NPC_:0001E765] filterByNpcs=Skyrim.esm|1E765:objectsToAdd=Skyrim.esm|c8915=1,[Imp] Piercings of the Divines.esp|D63=1 ;Orla "Orla" [NPC_:000133B0] filterByNpcs=Skyrim.esm|133B0:objectsToAdd=Skyrim.esm|c8915=1,[Imp] Piercings of the Divines.esp|D63=1 etc... LE donlt have it this fancy stuff
ixtheinterloper Posted August 31 Posted August 31 just spitballing a suggestion here, but instead of "just" having personal quests leading to nudity there could also be "reactive" nudity that happens when the general perception of nudity begins to shift in a town or a hold just as an example, olfina could begin dismissive of the idea (it's too degrading, i don't need to stoop to your level for respect, etc. etc.,) but as powerful and/or influential women in whiterun begin to take vows of nudity (carlotta, adrianne, aela, etc.; not these npcs, specifically because i know adrianne has her own portion of the markarth dibella quest that's being relocated to this mod, but just as an example) she begins to reconsider and starts autonomously going nude in public (what's the matter, can't stand the sight of a confident nude woman?)
killer905 Posted August 31 Posted August 31 1 hour ago, ixtheinterloper said: just spitballing a suggestion here, but instead of "just" having personal quests leading to nudity there could also be "reactive" nudity that happens when the general perception of nudity begins to shift in a town or a hold just as an example, olfina could begin dismissive of the idea (it's too degrading, i don't need to stoop to your level for respect, etc. etc.,) but as powerful and/or influential women in whiterun begin to take vows of nudity (carlotta, adrianne, aela, etc.; not these npcs, specifically because i know adrianne has her own portion of the markarth dibella quest that's being relocated to this mod, but just as an example) she begins to reconsider and starts autonomously going nude in public (what's the matter, can't stand the sight of a confident nude woman?) Adrianne already has her own quest involving walking around naked, but only in the evenings. In my opinion, Aela wouldn't even need to take a vow of nudity, because she's such a wild girl anyway, and she'd probably walk around town naked even without taking that vow. Olfina, on the other hand, has a different problem. If the Stormcloaks win the civil war, Olfina becomes Vignar’s Housecarl. However, on the other hand, if the Housecarl himself walks around naked, might people actually be willing not just to walk around naked, but even to take a vow of nudity? Hmmm, something to think about.
Gristle Posted August 31 Author Posted August 31 3 hours ago, ixtheinterloper said: just as an example, olfina could begin dismissive of the idea (it's too degrading, i don't need to stoop to your level for respect, etc. etc.,) but as powerful and/or influential women in whiterun begin to take vows of nudity (carlotta, adrianne, aela, etc.; not these npcs, specifically because i know adrianne has her own portion of the markarth dibella quest that's being relocated to this mod, but just as an example) she begins to reconsider and starts autonomously going nude in public (what's the matter, can't stand the sight of a confident nude woman?) I like the idea of (a few) NPCs being proactive about nudity, but I think it should only be a few for a couple of reasons. First, I would want to leave plenty for PC quests. Second, I don't think any town should become "naked Skyrim" -- once nudity becomes commonplace, then it ceases to be a challenge and the tension that comes from breaking social norms is gone. And third, it doesn't fit into the personalities of that many NPCs. Also, Adrianne had "walk at night" quests in both the Markarth quest and this quest. The one in this quest is being retained, and the one in the Markarth quest is going away. There was no need for two such quests. Adrianne walking naked in the day might be a bit much for her character, especially as long as her father is Steward in Dragonsreach. She's also married, and I don't know what her husband would think about that. Also, she's an Imperial, so she's a bit at risk if the Stormcloaks take over anyway. 1 hour ago, killer905 said: In my opinion, Aela wouldn't even need to take a vow of nudity, because she's such a wild girl anyway, and she'd probably walk around town naked even without taking that vow. I agree. Aela would just do whatever she wants. I also agree that NPCs don't have to necessarily take vows or become "Dibellans". Maybe an NPC is just an exhibitionist. Or maybe they favor Sanguine and like to excite men.
ixtheinterloper Posted August 31 Posted August 31 yeah, there are a number of problems with the names i chose out of a hat (there are acceptable breaks from reality and then there is adrianne working the forge with zero protection), it was more to illustrate the idea i was going for i am an Immersion Enthusiast, and think it's neat when it feels like my actions are influencing the world at large, though i will concede the point of it taking up npcs that could have been given custom quests
KentuckyExpat Posted August 31 Posted August 31 I have two computers, each of then with Skyrim installed. Both of them have this mod installed. On one of them the quest where Adrienne walks around nude at night works fine, there is the initial walk where the PC encourages her to walk naked through the city, then the next night where the PC meets her and they go to a secluded place along the city wall, then the denouement (no spoiler here. If you don't already know then play the mod). However, on the other machine, the one where I added this mod mid playthrough, when Adrienne and my PC meet the second time and says, "Follow me" instead of going to the secluded place, she walks around Whiterun until midnight at which point she goes home. I thought to advance the mod using the console but "setstage DBL_DibellasLove 30" seems to be where we are now and there doesn't seem to a "setstage" level past that point. I'm guessing that that particular term, DBL_DibellasLove, for the "setstage" command has changed to a different term. So what do I use to advance past this stuck point?
Gristle Posted September 7 Author Posted September 7 On 8/31/2026 at 7:02 AM, KentuckyExpat said: I have two computers, each of then with Skyrim installed. Both of them have this mod installed. On one of them the quest where Adrienne walks around nude at night works fine, there is the initial walk where the PC encourages her to walk naked through the city, then the next night where the PC meets her and they go to a secluded place along the city wall, then the denouement (no spoiler here. If you don't already know then play the mod). However, on the other machine, the one where I added this mod mid playthrough, when Adrienne and my PC meet the second time and says, "Follow me" instead of going to the secluded place, she walks around Whiterun until midnight at which point she goes home. I thought to advance the mod using the console but "setstage DBL_DibellasLove 30" seems to be where we are now and there doesn't seem to a "setstage" level past that point. I'm guessing that that particular term, DBL_DibellasLove, for the "setstage" command has changed to a different term. So what do I use to advance past this stuck point? Because this is a quest within a quest, the global variable DBL_AdrianneWalk is used to advance the quest. It advances by 1 for each new "stage" of the mini quest. You can use 'getglobalvalue DBL_AdrianneWalk' to see what stage you are at, and then 'set DBL_AdrianneWalk to [number]' to set it one higher.
izumonoryu2 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 Is there a way to make this be instead wearing specific revealing robes instead of plain nudity?
Gristle Posted September 19 Author Posted September 19 41 minutes ago, izumonoryu2 said: Is there a way to make this be instead wearing specific revealing robes instead of plain nudity? You would have to remove the ClothingBody keyword from the robes using xEdit.
MoeffG Posted September 19 Posted September 19 Very nice update. One tiny bug i found is at the end of the Markarth Quest when you enter the Temple in Solitude for the first time. If you don't speak to Lillian before you enter, she stays outside. It's not game breaking as the remaining dialogs can be done with a bit back and forth, but she seems to be stuck outside.
Phantasmo27 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 (edited) Just started playing the update and two things I've noticed so far - the first time trying to use a bed after leaving the Cidhna Mine, it thinks you're still in jail and it asks if you want to serve out your sentence (doing so will port you back to Markarth). The second thing I've noticed, and I don't know if this is intentional or if I messed something up on my end (since I did update mid playthrough), but I don't take damage when clothed anymore. She will still strip upon changing cells, but it does kind of allow you to just get dressed whenever you want with minimal consequences. EDIT: Loaded a save from before I took the vow, and damage is being applied while clothed, so it does look like something just got messed up in my save. To be fair, the mod does say a new game is required. I had done a bunch of stuff since that save though, so I ended up just disabling the mod, making another save and cleaning it with resaver, then starting the vow quest over and it's been working fine so far (in case anyone else runs into this scenario). Edited Saturday at 09:33 PM by Phantasmo27
Time259 Posted September 19 Posted September 19 Very excited for the new DL version, but I'm playing on LE and the latest version of comments only still has the original markarth quest. Is there anything I need to do or will they play nice?
Gristle Posted Saturday at 07:15 PM Author Posted Saturday at 07:15 PM 6 minutes ago, Time259 said: Very excited for the new DL version, but I'm playing on LE and the latest version of comments only still has the original markarth quest. Is there anything I need to do or will they play nice? In that case, don't play the Markarth quest in SLSF Fame Comments. The duplicate items all start disabled in the SLSF Fame Comments version of the quest, so if you don't run it, there won't be any duplication or conflict. You can turn off the "Jarl quests" in the Fame Comments MCM to ensure you don't start it by accident.
Gristle Posted Saturday at 11:54 PM Author Posted Saturday at 11:54 PM 4 hours ago, Phantasmo27 said: the first time trying to use a bed after leaving the Cidhna Mine, it thinks you're still in jail and it asks if you want to serve out your sentence (doing so will port you back to Markarth). The jail status is being cleared but not until you speak to the Captain. This is a mistake and I'll move up the clearing of the jail status to as soon as you accept the Jarl's quest in the next version. In the meantime, if you play just a bit further in the quest, it will clear itself. 1
Phantasmo27 Posted Sunday at 01:12 AM Posted Sunday at 01:12 AM 1 hour ago, Gristle said: The jail status is being cleared but not until you speak to the Captain. This is a mistake and I'll move up the clearing of the jail status to as soon as you accept the Jarl's quest in the next version. In the meantime, if you play just a bit further in the quest, it will clear itself. I guess resting already cleared it for me and it doesn't seem to have caused any issues (although I do have a save from before I started the quest, so will revert back if it does). Enjoying the mod though, good work as always!
Gristle Posted Sunday at 06:42 PM Author Posted Sunday at 06:42 PM On 9/19/2026 at 8:08 AM, MoeffG said: Very nice update. Thanks. On 9/19/2026 at 8:08 AM, MoeffG said: One tiny bug i found is at the end of the Markarth Quest when you enter the Temple in Solitude for the first time. If you don't speak to Lillian before you enter, she stays outside. It's not game breaking as the remaining dialogs can be done with a bit back and forth, but she seems to be stuck outside. This is not happening in my game. Lilly follows me into the temple. Do you have any Solitude mods that could be interfering?
MoeffG Posted Sunday at 07:31 PM Posted Sunday at 07:31 PM 40 minutes ago, Gristle said: Thanks. This is not happening in my game. Lilly follows me into the temple. Do you have any Solitude mods that could be interfering? No mods that change Solitude. (Besides Balazars Bitch for example) That said, i am on the current version of Skyrim and there might be issues i haven't noticed yet. I am for example using the beta version of race menu so i wouldn't call my setup entirely stable. I will do another playthrough later and check if it happens again. I sadly quicksaved inside the Temple before i noticed Lilly staying outside, so wasn't able to test it in that session.
KentuckyExpat Posted Monday at 02:54 AM Posted Monday at 02:54 AM I'm running across some dialogue anomalies. For example, when Fastred runs up the hill naked, she says something to the effect that she loves the feeling of the wind on her naked body. The only trouble is that the word "wind" is pronounced like the word you would use when talking about winding up an old fashioned alarm clock - long 'i', not the word describing air blowing. There are some others that I forgot to write down that have a similar problem. If I do another playthrough sometime soon, I will try to remember to jot them down as well. On a different note, Lydia has some comments that make it clear that she is not a happy camper being assigned as the Dragonborn's housecarl. I haven't gotten far enough into this playthrough for the relationship between the two to develop past the initial stages to where she might become resigned to, or even accepting of, the Dragonborn's nudity vow. I'm hoping that, as she interacts with the PC, her attitude will change, making her more receptive to the PC's actions vis-a-vis the Dragonborn's nudity. Maybe even being willing to go naked herself, at least when she's home in one of the Dragonborn's houses.
killer905 Posted Monday at 09:23 AM Posted Monday at 09:23 AM 6 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said: On a different note, Lydia has some comments that make it clear that she is not a happy camper being assigned as the Dragonborn's housecarl. I haven't gotten far enough into this playthrough for the relationship between the two to develop past the initial stages to where she might become resigned to, or even accepting of, the Dragonborn's nudity vow. I'm hoping that, as she interacts with the PC, her attitude will change, making her more receptive to the PC's actions vis-a-vis the Dragonborn's nudity. Maybe even being willing to go naked herself, at least when she's home in one of the Dragonborn's houses. Lydia is more unhappy about her Thane walking around naked than about being assigned as the Dragonborn’s housecarl.
KentuckyExpat Posted Monday at 03:12 PM Posted Monday at 03:12 PM 5 hours ago, killer905 said: Lydia is more unhappy about her Thane walking around naked than about being assigned as the Dragonborn’s housecarl. Yeah, I know. What I am curious about is will she become reconciled to that issue? Now Lydia is a housecarl, which means, among other things, that she is oriented towards courage and valor. As such, she will be seeing her Thane, naked, fighting and defeating enemies. This is bound to impress her - I mean, fighting naked , that's got to impress any warrior. So, that being the case, will it be enough for Lydia to get over her unhappiness at her Thane's nudity?
killer905 Posted Monday at 05:38 PM Posted Monday at 05:38 PM 2 hours ago, KentuckyExpat said: Yeah, I know. What I am curious about is will she become reconciled to that issue? Now Lydia is a housecarl, which means, among other things, that she is oriented towards courage and valor. As such, she will be seeing her Thane, naked, fighting and defeating enemies. This is bound to impress her - I mean, fighting naked , that's got to impress any warrior. So, that being the case, will it be enough for Lydia to get over her unhappiness at her Thane's nudity? We’ll see what Gristle has come up with for Lydia. Getting Lydia to run around naked will be tricky, because some frameworks might overwrite what she’s wearing and make her get dressed, when she’s supposed to be walking around naked.
eflat01 Posted Monday at 06:21 PM Posted Monday at 06:21 PM 39 minutes ago, killer905 said: We’ll see what Gristle has come up with for Lydia. Getting Lydia to run around naked will be tricky, because some frameworks might overwrite what she’s wearing and make her get dressed, when she’s supposed to be walking around naked. Difficult with any basic follower really, the player have to be sure to either stay away from follower frameworks or mods which manage outfits... or I suppose they'd have to strip those followers themselves - you'd have to assign them stripped yourself. I can do that AFT I'm sure it can be done in EFF.
KentuckyExpat Posted Monday at 10:12 PM Posted Monday at 10:12 PM 4 hours ago, killer905 said: We’ll see what Gristle has come up with for Lydia. Getting Lydia to run around naked will be tricky, because some frameworks might overwrite what she’s wearing and make her get dressed, when she’s supposed to be walking around naked. Well, for me that wouldn't be much of a problem since I don't use follower frameworks, but I can see where it would be for others that do. Such a shame. She would look so good au naturelle.
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