Claude.AI the Next Loot!!!!?

[torakaithehero1]

Ok ok so now that the click bait title is out of the way let me be clear im a lazy bastard truly am
loot though good everyone in the adult modding scene knows its... only really good for vanilla andys sure it helps but isnt a solution.

so as a hobby i like to fuck with AI see how they handle more... boring but interesting tasks
like i said im lazy and thought fuck it lets see how AI handle load orders 
now most were garbage failed freaked out mad incomplete lists ect

however Claude.ai holy shit call me impressed without any real direction outside of here have some .txt docs from Mo2 make them work for skyrim ae ect ect its not a massive list but aint small its 500+mods with 350ish plugins all complex mods with scripts and masters and insula load orders all that jazz

now the first run was meh decent around loot level but then bam i said try again here use this as a guide and online research
credit by the way this guide kicks ass 

i gave claude.ai this pdf was like hey use this as a base yadda yadda

set it to extended thinking gave it the files for MO2 plugins.txt , loadorder.txt , modlist.txt 
now for those who dont know plugins is well plugins the little box on the right of MO2

loadorder is the well the loadorder of that list 

modlist it the window on the Left of Mo2 and both are actually important to sort in different ways 

guess what Claude.ai did took like 10 mins but got a perfect working order well near perfect fuck it made loot seem laughable
i love loot i really do but it only works if every mod Author works with them or use the other methods and lets be honest some of us wanna play the game rather then just spend our time on nexus, here or other sites and spend 2 hours fine tuning a load order to mess it up adding a new mod 

but yeah look dont use chat gpt, grok, gemini, or those other clowns find a good modding guide that also covers load order preferably one like Lunas and feed its pdf straight down claudes throat cause it can take it like a champ and be able to actual do your load order while you fuck off and go do other shit come back copy then paste it run loot for errors (dont actually apply the changes) if it shows up good your set if not tell claude to try harder and go eat a sandwich or some shit

also though this is an adult site (mostly) i am aussie so yes i did say bad words lol
 

Edited March 6 by torakaithehero1

[steelpanther24]

Whoa whoa whoa!  You used bad words here??  How dare you!  Let me speak to your manager. 

 

Which version of Claude are you using 4.5?  The AI of 2025 is not the AI of 2026, so yes, it is much more powerful than before, especially the paid access version.    This is the same for at least Grok and Chat GPT (need the paid versions, not the free to use ones).  

 

A couple of questions though, did it have access to the .BA2 files and ESP files as well?  Just curious if it can be altered a bit to not take a recommended load order, but come up with the best load order possible, especially for FO4. 

[torakaithehero1]

5 hours ago, steelpanther24 said:

Whoa whoa whoa!  You used bad words here??  How dare you!  Let me speak to your manager. 

 

Which version of Claude are you using 4.5?  The AI of 2025 is not the AI of 2026, so yes, it is much more powerful than before, especially the paid access version.    This is the same for at least Grok and Chat GPT (need the paid versions, not the free to use ones).  

 

A couple of questions though, did it have access to the .BA2 files and ESP files as well?  Just curious if it can be altered a bit to not take a recommended load order, but come up with the best load order possible, especially for FO4. 

well thats what ill be testing today well i mean probably my 3rd or 4th test
right now its just the one i did above
and i used 4.6 Sonnet the basic free version it does only give limited uses but thats part of my testing as well the classic what is the exact words to get what you want and generation count for a perfected list

for a hint of my 2nd experiment ill be going through the effort of grabbing every link of my load order or well the vast majority and feeding it to claude.ai with the instructions of finding installation orders or load orders inside the links (aka if it can 1. follow the rules in each link 2. if it can handle that many links and in what form
gonna do it raw the first time the second is gonna be a compile in a txt doc 

i do have an end goal for all this if and its a big if claude.ai is competent enough i wanna make a load order repository 
every load order is different right but all follow some similar or close to similar rules to work
so by having a large-ish repository for the Ai to look and read through as examples it should in theory be able to use it as a guide with the right instructions
if this works the way i think it does it solves a big issue both loot and general users have 
also means i can host a simple essentially open sauce doc for load order where the more its added too the better the .ai its feed too gets at its new forced apon its job

some other curiosity tests ill be doing later is seeing how it handles total messed up load orders (just in case we get a frog who poisons my load order repository well)
and seeing if the premium vers does better

another thing is if it all goes well i found that Claude offers a feature that may make this even better tool and app integration
so i wanna reach out to the loot devs and see if they wanna do a claude x loot alpha test or see if its even possible
get the best of both worlds

 

[torakaithehero1]

Ok so after spending the better part of 7 hours today aka my day running tests i am here to share the results of test experiment 2

1st things 1st though ill set the ground up i used my own mod load order and mod list as its feed mine is not a healthy small list 
i have 450 mods vast majority of which are complex script mods and FSMP HDT mods so not stable and usually each mod had a ton of requirements

so with that out the way i tried it raw at first claude liked it but it quickly became apparent that it was never ment to handle and read over 600 ish links being feed to it like that (raw means i feed each link one by one with copy paste into a single message) second issue that arouse was there is a character limit for prompts and so couldnt do test 2-1

i moved on to test 2-2 this was better i did the same thing as one but instead of claude taking it raw i wrapped it up
putting the links in a .txt file aka notepad it handled this way way better actually being able to consume it 
but it had flaws 1 being its time it took opening reading and then applying these changes was so long that it would end up breaking down not the AI fault though this is because of how LLMs are treated sadly people want results and they want it now as a result MOST if not ALL LLMs have built in time limits claudes one is very forgiving but it does have one

this is usually when you would see grok or gpt hallucinate the answer because it doesn't get given enough time to actually formulate and integrate information
but from what it did manage to form it was pretty decent 
now these timers that LLMs are given i through my own testing came to a conclusion today it seems the timer for info feed directly so like the PDF luna made or other raw factual data points it can read without using google 
seems to matter a lot like i mean its infinitely better 

test experiment 2 has been deemed a failure however has given me invaluable data for the future tests

test experiment 3 will consist of compiling healthy load orders and healthy load order tutorials in a pdf or doc form in order to feed it and teach it how to read for healthy pattens and common concepts

i deem the repository for healthy load orders open
i have one request they need to be healthy that means no ctds all the time on occasion is fine thats pretty normal i would say 
just ones that can run in your skyrim SE or AE (not doing old rim yet as i cant test it myself)
ensure its in .txt form when posted here for ease of integration

[belegost]

Hello good sir,

 

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Let me introduce them to you:

 

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Edited March 8 by belegost

[Grey Cloud]

6 hours ago, belegost said:

Hello good sir,

 

Have you ever heard about our Lords and Saviours, The Punctuation Marks?

 

Let me introduce them to you:

 

A comma - ,

Used to separate parts of a sentence.

 

A period (or full stop) - .

Used at the end of a sentence.

 

May their blessing be upon you, even if you yourself have forsaken their light.

And while we are here, let us not forget capitalisation, e.g. I not i and also used at the beginning of a sentence.

 

One of my personal pet peeves - "ect". It is etc. as an abbreviation of et cetera. 

 

What are "insula load orders"?

 

On 3/6/2026 at 7:36 PM, torakaithehero1 said:

now for those who dont know plugins is well plugins the little box on the right of MO2

 

On 3/6/2026 at 7:36 PM, torakaithehero1 said:

loadorder is the well the loadorder of that list 

No it is not. The load order is what is going on in the left pane.

[torakaithehero1]

On 3/8/2026 at 3:01 PM, belegost said:

Hello good sir,

 

Have you ever heard about our Lords and Saviours, The Punctuation Marks?

 

Let me introduce them to you:

 

A comma - ,

Used to separate parts of a sentence.

 

A period (or full stop) - .

Used at the end of a sentence.

 

May their blessing be upon you, even if you yourself have forsaken their light.

 

On 3/8/2026 at 9:29 PM, Grey Cloud said:

And while we are here, let us not forget capitalisation, e.g. I not i and also used at the beginning of a sentence.

 

One of my personal pet peeves - "ect". It is etc. as an abbreviation of et cetera. 

 

What are "insula load orders"?

 

 

No it is not. The load order is what is going on in the left pane.

If thou hast naught of substance to contribute, nor intendest to offer aid or pose earnest inquiries touching the craft and tailoring of Artificial Intelligence within the realm of modding—as a mere implement, mark you, and no usurper of the soul—then I charge thee to hold thy peace.

If my manner of speech doth so wound thy sensibilities, thou mightest have passed by this post in silence. That thou hast chosen to wag thy tongue, despite my prior confession of a slothful nature, proveth thou hast either failed to read or hast come purely to scoff and deride. If thy purpose be truly so base, my defiance is plain and fashioned in the rugged custom of the Southern Cross: Go forth and consort with thyself.

 

[belegost]

Calm down there, Richard Garriott.

[Grey Cloud]

Dear AI response,

 

You failed to provide an answer to my question regarding "insula load orders". You also failed to take into account that I corrected the OP's misinformation about load order and the left and right panes of MO2.

Furthermore not knowing that "ect" should be "etc" has nothing to do with laziness and in any case, nobody is under any obligation to pander to such.

[Fraying9981]

i wish i could understand any of this because the initial idea sounds pretty cool

[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, Fraying9981 said:

the initial idea sounds pretty cool

Why? He could have manually sorted his left and right panes in less time than he's spent arsing about with the AI thing.

[Fraying9981]

3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Why? He could have manually sorted his left and right panes in less time than he's spent arsing about with the AI thing.

 

ah it was about sorting panes? I didn't get that far. 

I thought he recoded 450 mods

[belegost]

15 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

450 mods

Rookie numbers.

[Grey Cloud]

15 minutes ago, belegost said:

Rookie numbers.

643 - 173 (followers) = 473 ☹️

[torakaithehero1]

20 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Why? He could have manually sorted his left and right panes in less time than he's spent arsing about with the AI thing.

 

17 hours ago, Fraying9981 said:

 

ah it was about sorting panes? I didn't get that far. 

I thought he recoded 450 mods

No actually my load order is already sorted i did that ages ago not perfect mind you. this is me doing my best to make adapt an AI to be a tool similar to loot or even a plugin for loot im using my own load order data as a base set but was requesting other healthy as in working load orders using loadorder.txt and modlists.txt plugins.txt
i would then go through the effort of using those data points to find consistent patterns to use as a rule book for the AI to understand layout (animations here, followers here framework up here) for both plugins and loadorders. why for the simple reason that its better to make a tool that might help everyone then it is to just go to people and say hey just do this or that to make it work.
In short my goal is to have a PDF with both rules and examples of functional load orders and plugin orders to use as a basis to feed the ai
once its hammered down ill make a simple pdf rule set with said pdf with some added things if needed like specific mod set rules such as with sexlab or ostim  
as they require generally more complex layouts. (in terms of ai understanding them)

so in short im doing a few things teaching an ai to understand modding and mo2 and just game order structure and also then finding the best common use load order and rules for said ai to then be able to actually do the task effectively to the point i can say hand you the pdf pack and you can send your load order in with it and just say fix it or order it.

[Grey Cloud]

9 minutes ago, torakaithehero1 said:

why for the simple reason that its better to make a tool that might help everyone then it is to just go to people and say hey just do this or that to make it work.

It's "than" not "then".

Far better for people to learn about load orders and conflicts than to blindly follow something which you have no way of judging whether it is giving you duff info or not.

In practical terms there is no "perfect" load order. There are load orders which contribute to a stable game and load orders which don't.

[Vader666]

7 hours ago, torakaithehero1 said:

this is me doing my best to make adapt an AI to be a tool similar to loot

 

LLMs are the worst possible choice of technology for that kind of work.

It will make it look like it works but when it actually doesnt.

All you do is "train" an LLM to sort Plugins by name, not by what they are doing.